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BrightKnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-10 01:58 PM
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112. Allowing him to interact with anyone without security clearance
Edited on Mon Dec-20-10 02:06 PM by BrightKnight
might be irresponsible. He has nothing to lose and he clearly has no interest in protecting any of the classified information that he had access to. Also, some inmates or even guards might really harm or kill him in the general population.

He is in the military and they control the horizontal and the vertical. When you get up, eat, go to bed is not your decision when you are in uniform. That is true for enlisted people being shot at in Afghanistan and for treasonous douche bags like him.

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  -Bradley Manning is on suicide watch. Yes, this is torture. WillYourVoteBCounted  Dec-19-10 09:07 PM   #0 
  - Hang in there Bradley. If things continue as they seem to be doing,  truedelphi   Dec-19-10 09:11 PM   #1 
  - So, this is what you get for taking that "all enemies, foreign and domestic" pledge seriously.  Fridays Child   Dec-19-10 09:12 PM   #2 
  - Perfectly said...  midnight   Dec-20-10 10:47 AM   #96 
  - Yep, he is the ememy, domestic. Read the whole thing  Pavulon   Dec-20-10 05:30 PM   #122 
  - K&R  EFerrari   Dec-19-10 09:13 PM   #3 
  - My heart breaks for him. I hope I live to see the people doing this to him  Catherina   Dec-19-10 09:15 PM   #4 
  - Not a chance, I'm sorry to opine. Look at what else has been got away with. nt  thanks_imjustlurking   Dec-20-10 09:15 AM   #92 
  - How horrifying!  CaliforniaPeggy   Dec-19-10 09:17 PM   #5 
  - In 1890, the Supreme Court almost ruled that prolonged solitary is unconstitutional.  Eric J in MN   Dec-19-10 09:18 PM   #6 
  - POI under the rules is different then solitary confinement  littlewolf   Dec-19-10 10:01 PM   #38 
     - It wouldn't be reasonable for them to claim that  Eric J in MN   Dec-20-10 04:47 AM   #78 
        - no but walking around in the general population  littlewolf   Dec-20-10 07:47 AM   #81 
  - That is wrong not to allow him to exercise.  The Backlash Cometh   Dec-19-10 09:20 PM   #7 
  - .  patrice   Dec-19-10 09:21 PM   #8 
  - Read the article and see that he gets an hour a day to exercise.  jaxx   Dec-19-10 09:27 PM   #12 
     - Disgusting shit  Catherina   Dec-19-10 09:47 PM   #26 
        - We can't let this man fall below the radar.  EFerrari   Dec-19-10 09:51 PM   #28 
  - I thought there were supposed to be protections for whistleblowers.  PDJane   Dec-19-10 09:21 PM   #9 
  - He is subject to the UCMJ. n/t  oneshooter   Dec-19-10 09:27 PM   #11 
  - Punishing someone before their trial violates the UCMJ.  EFerrari   Dec-19-10 09:32 PM   #16 
     - Well, if Bush could ignore it -- I guess Obama will, as well .... ???/  defendandprotect   Dec-20-10 09:26 PM   #158 
  - Selling nuclear weapon designs to al-Qaeda is also whistle blowing in your book?  stray cat   Dec-19-10 09:33 PM   #17 
  - Evidence of that one please  nadinbrzezinski   Dec-19-10 09:36 PM   #20 
  - Do you think he had a clue what he was releasing -if you read the post you would get the point  stray cat   Dec-19-10 09:37 PM   #21 
     - Yes, no nuclear secrets went on that network  nadinbrzezinski   Dec-19-10 09:40 PM   #23 
        - You are aware Manning had access to both SIPRNET and JWICS right.  Statistical   Dec-19-10 10:08 PM   #41 
        - Thank you, nadinbrzezinski. There is so much false information  JDPriestly   Dec-20-10 03:03 AM   #76 
           - You are thanking him for a false claim.  Statistical   Dec-20-10 09:00 AM   #88 
              - Speaking of false claims, who was "killed," exactly, by Manning's alleged actions?  DirkGently   Dec-20-10 12:59 PM   #108 
              - But you still need specific SCI to open some of those doors  Sirveri   Dec-20-10 05:20 PM   #120 
  - They're not going to put nuclear weapon data on SIPRNet  Canuckistanian   Dec-19-10 09:59 PM   #34 
  - Not only that nuclear secrets  nadinbrzezinski   Dec-19-10 10:07 PM   #39 
  - Manning had access to JWICS also.  Statistical   Dec-19-10 10:08 PM   #42 
  - JWICS? I didn't know that  Canuckistanian   Dec-19-10 11:18 PM   #66 
  - Clearance has nothing to do with rank. Nothing.  Statistical   Dec-19-10 11:24 PM   #68 
  - Aren't both of those compartmentalised?  TheMadMonk   Dec-20-10 08:52 PM   #150 
  - Plenty of Nuclear Weapons data is less than TS  Zywiec   Dec-20-10 08:24 AM   #83 
  - I haven't heard any accusation that he sold nuclear weapon designs to  JDPriestly   Dec-20-10 03:02 AM   #75 
  - Another RW meme in what seems like an endless stream.  Forkboy   Dec-20-10 06:46 PM   #126 
  - Time to use the alert function. nm  rhett o rick   Dec-20-10 07:26 PM   #130 
  - So you rationalize that torturing him is ok because he is ACCUSED of releasing classified info?  rhett o rick   Dec-20-10 07:26 PM   #129 
  - US/CIA created Al Qaeda ...financed it up to 9/11 and probably beyond....  defendandprotect   Dec-20-10 08:36 PM   #144 
  - he isn't a whistleblower  TorchTheWitch   Dec-19-10 10:45 PM   #57 
     - That's a very good point  jberryhill   Dec-20-10 04:49 AM   #79 
  - ...The guards at the confinement facility are professional.  jaxx   Dec-19-10 09:26 PM   #10 
  - People expect a conviction before he is sentenced.  some guy   Dec-19-10 09:43 PM   #24 
  - People are in jail everywhere awaiting trials.  jaxx   Dec-19-10 09:55 PM   #29 
  - You do realize he is in the service, yes?  jberryhill   Dec-19-10 09:58 PM   #32 
  - Thanks, some guy.  JDPriestly   Dec-20-10 03:05 AM   #77 
  - And if you are a friend of Mannings, or you visit him, you will be  sabrina 1   Dec-19-10 09:44 PM   #25 
  - That kind of talk is out of control.  jaxx   Dec-19-10 10:00 PM   #37 
  - No, it's not out of control, his friends have been harrassed.  EFerrari   Dec-19-10 10:14 PM   #43 
     - Well, if Greenwald says it.........  jaxx   Dec-19-10 10:26 PM   #46 
     - Greenwald quotes two experts. There for you to read.  EFerrari   Dec-19-10 10:31 PM   #53 
        - Experts are a dime a dozen.  jaxx   Dec-19-10 10:32 PM   #55 
           - No, jaxx. One of them is the commission that writes reports  EFerrari   Dec-19-10 10:45 PM   #58 
           - Is he saying this about all prisoners, no solitary?  jaxx   Dec-19-10 10:50 PM   #59 
              - Here is the report. Look at Section 2. It's not that long and you can skim it.  EFerrari   Dec-19-10 11:14 PM   #63 
                 - He does have books, tv and weekly visits.  jaxx   Dec-19-10 11:44 PM   #69 
                    - Lock yourself in your bathroom for a week.  obxhead   Dec-20-10 08:49 PM   #149 
                       - Serve aboard a submarine for six months  jberryhill   Dec-21-10 01:10 PM   #169 
           - "Experts are a dime a dozen."  Forkboy   Dec-20-10 06:48 PM   #127 
     - Thank you. I wasn't sure what 'talk' was out of control since everything I said  sabrina 1   Dec-19-10 11:18 PM   #67 
  - ^ Sabrina: "I never saw this kind of defense of it when Bush was president."  Mimosa   Dec-20-10 08:31 AM   #87 
  - Would it be reasonable for the government to take an interest in Julius Rosenberg's visitors?  BrightKnight   Dec-20-10 10:54 AM   #98 
  - Those soldiers in the Abu Graib photos were professionals, too.  EFerrari   Dec-19-10 09:50 PM   #27 
  - Presumption of innocence. Is that simple enough for you to understand?  snagglepuss   Dec-19-10 09:55 PM   #30 
  - But people can still be held pending trial  treestar   Dec-19-10 09:57 PM   #31 
  - Presumption of innocence is a jury instruction  jberryhill   Dec-19-10 09:59 PM   #35 
  - Name some people you know being held pending trial under those conditions?  snagglepuss   Dec-19-10 10:26 PM   #47 
     - I'm sorry but I only know one person who was ever arrested for a serious crime  jberryhill   Dec-19-10 10:55 PM   #60 
        - Seems a little ridiculous that he can't read, exercise, and sleep as he pleases in his cell  Hippo_Tron   Dec-20-10 08:44 PM   #146 
           - Can't do that on active duty either  jberryhill   Dec-21-10 01:08 PM   #168 
  - That is for the court.  jaxx   Dec-19-10 10:07 PM   #40 
  - I expected the treatment he's getting  customerserviceguy   Dec-19-10 10:25 PM   #45 
  - I wonder about that.  EFerrari   Dec-19-10 10:29 PM   #51 
  - More than 90%  NutmegYankee   Dec-20-10 08:30 AM   #86 
  - He is in jail for allegedly stealing government docs.  tekisui   Dec-20-10 09:25 AM   #94 
  - And that is (I think) the fourth  verges   Dec-20-10 12:05 PM   #104 
  - That's a right wing lie. He is not in jail for stealing anything.  rhett o rick   Dec-20-10 07:30 PM   #131 
  - He IS being tortured. This is reprehensible.  sabrina 1   Dec-19-10 09:29 PM   #13 
  - Do you have ANY evidence that he is actually being tortured?  BrightKnight   Dec-20-10 02:37 PM   #116 
  - K&R  DeSwiss   Dec-19-10 09:31 PM   #14 
  - Are you sure they were watching him every minute to make sure he did not do a single push up?  stray cat   Dec-19-10 09:31 PM   #15 
  - A 5 minute check, he can do a lot in 5 minutes.  jaxx   Dec-19-10 09:34 PM   #18 
     - 5 minute mile if he were in shape  stray cat   Dec-19-10 09:35 PM   #19 
  - Torture is as American as cherry pie (with apologies to H. Rap Brown) - n/t  coalition_unwilling   Dec-19-10 09:37 PM   #22 
  - this is being trumped up  treestar   Dec-19-10 09:58 PM   #33 
  - Yeah right. Name suspects who have been held for months in solitary,  snagglepuss   Dec-19-10 10:25 PM   #44 
  - Routinely suspects who are a danger to others or IN DANGER from others are held in isolation.  Statistical   Dec-19-10 10:28 PM   #48 
  - Prison officals declared Manning is not suicidal.  snagglepuss   Dec-19-10 10:30 PM   #52 
  - Virtually anyone in the military accused of a capital crime. n/t  stevenleser   Dec-19-10 10:31 PM   #54 
  - My understanding is that he has not been accused of committing a capital  snagglepuss   Dec-19-10 11:04 PM   #61 
     - Intentional release of tens and hundreds of thousands of documents classified as secret is  stevenleser   Dec-19-10 11:13 PM   #62 
        - Support of basic human rights shouldn't be contingent upon  EFerrari   Dec-19-10 11:50 PM   #70 
           - Are you sure you meant to respond to me? Your comment seems unrelated to my post. n/t  stevenleser   Dec-19-10 11:56 PM   #71 
  - This practice of the United States has been condemned  EFerrari   Dec-19-10 11:15 PM   #64 
     - As it should be. However, this is not unique to Manning. It happens routinely in every US jail.  BzaDem   Dec-19-10 11:18 PM   #65 
  - Once again, siding with the Oligarchy. Why are you allowed in DU? nm  rhett o rick   Dec-20-10 07:31 PM   #132 
  - K&R n/t  myrna minx   Dec-19-10 09:59 PM   #36 
  - He's being treated as any other POI prisoner  TorchTheWitch   Dec-19-10 10:28 PM   #49 
  - I am so sickened by this fascist brutality.  Odin2005   Dec-19-10 10:28 PM   #50 
  - Kick. (nt)  Kurovski   Dec-19-10 10:37 PM   #56 
  - Thanks for throwing this Blog up Attorney Coombs... if you read this.  Ellipsis   Dec-20-10 12:06 AM   #72 
  - Suggestions for action from Bradley Manning Support Networks  EFerrari   Dec-20-10 12:36 AM   #73 
  - Thanks. nm  rhett o rick   Dec-20-10 07:32 PM   #133 
  - Mind control. That is the aim.  JDPriestly   Dec-20-10 02:58 AM   #74 
  - Everybody in the military has to follow orders.  MilesColtrane   Dec-20-10 12:52 PM   #107 
  - K&+R  Senator   Dec-20-10 05:21 AM   #80 
  - What crime(s) has Bradley Manning officially been charged with?  Crystal Clarity   Dec-20-10 08:11 AM   #82 
  - Last I heard he hadn't been charged.  lonestarnot   Dec-20-10 08:30 AM   #85 
  - Huh. I'm even more confused now  Crystal Clarity   Dec-20-10 09:22 AM   #93 
  - He was charged on 5 July 2010 with UCMJ violations  Crabby Appleton   Dec-20-10 11:12 AM   #99 
  - Wow. Thanks for the info.  Crystal Clarity   Dec-20-10 11:31 AM   #100 
     - The logs of his chats with Adrian Lamo about wikileaks  Crabby Appleton   Dec-20-10 11:44 AM   #103 
  - Unauthorized disclosure of classified material.  NutmegYankee   Dec-20-10 11:32 AM   #101 
  - K&R  me b zola   Dec-20-10 08:25 AM   #84 
  - wow... creepy  fascisthunter   Dec-20-10 09:06 AM   #89 
  - I read somewhere he did this because he did not like the DADT policy  AngryAmish   Dec-20-10 09:06 AM   #90 
  - That's wrong. He took evidence of human rights abuses to his superior  EFerrari   Dec-20-10 01:45 PM   #111 
  - That sounds like it came from some rightwing publication.  sabrina 1   Dec-20-10 04:28 PM   #119 
  - recommend  xchrom   Dec-20-10 09:10 AM   #91 
  - Somebody email Obama! Quick! He needs to know! He'll fight for Manning!  Karmadillo   Dec-20-10 09:26 AM   #95 
  - Here's the tweet.  EFerrari   Dec-20-10 07:37 PM   #136 
  - Never any doubt in my mind that this Government would torture it's own citizens.  sarcasmo   Dec-20-10 10:47 AM   #97 
  - America is now an anti democratic "China"  kgnu_fan   Dec-20-10 11:40 AM   #102 
  - If he had pulled this in China, he would already have been executed  Freddie Stubbs   Dec-20-10 12:16 PM   #105 
  - If this had happened in China, we'd be pushing for him to get a Nobel Peace Prize. n/t  Catherina   Dec-20-10 01:42 PM   #110 
  - +1  Kingofalldems   Dec-20-10 02:35 PM   #114 
  - +1000%  defendandprotect   Dec-20-10 08:27 PM   #142 
  - How many Chinese charged with espionage have been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize?  Freddie Stubbs   Dec-21-10 07:42 AM   #165 
  - Fail  Kingofalldems   Dec-20-10 02:35 PM   #115 
     - How many Chinese charged with espionage have been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize?  Freddie Stubbs   Dec-21-10 07:43 AM   #166 
  - If he did that in China nobody would know anything about it. - n/t  BrightKnight   Dec-20-10 01:06 PM   #109 
     - Imagine there are quite a few things going on in this country we know nothing about .....  defendandprotect   Dec-20-10 09:44 PM   #161 
  - Please contact the Whitehouse. Link below.  chaska   Dec-20-10 12:43 PM   #106 
  - Ahhh I think the WH knows whats going on.... Obama is the commander in chief  IamK   Dec-20-10 08:59 PM   #152 
  - Allowing him to interact with anyone without security clearance  BrightKnight   Dec-20-10 01:58 PM   #112 
  - Brad's lawyer now on twitter: @armycmdefense n/t  EFerrari   Dec-20-10 02:24 PM   #113 
  - Six months after he gets convicted for treasonous acts no one here will give two shits about  Ikonoklast   Dec-20-10 02:44 PM   #117 
  - If he is convicted of treason,  DeadEyeDyck   Dec-20-10 06:37 PM   #125 
  - Yeah, just like we all forgot about Leonard Peltier.  EFerrari   Dec-20-10 07:33 PM   #134 
  - I don't think so ... but it's not like there aren't another 1,000 things wrong ....  defendandprotect   Dec-20-10 08:32 PM   #143 
  - Since this harsh treatment has not posltive purpose  Marnie   Dec-20-10 02:44 PM   #118 
  - "prolonged sensory deprivation"  MilesColtrane   Dec-20-10 05:29 PM   #121 
  - We're not really talking about reruns here but brain damage. n/t  EFerrari   Dec-20-10 07:36 PM   #135 
     - Send him fresh flowers and porn to decorate his dreary prison cell. - n/t  BrightKnight   Dec-20-10 08:47 PM   #148 
        - Another Amerian hero weighs in. n/t  EFerrari   Dec-20-10 08:53 PM   #151 
           - It is possible to reject both jingoistic bull shit AND treason. n/t  BrightKnight   Dec-20-10 09:10 PM   #153 
              - The only thing Manning betrayed is the corruption of your government.  EFerrari   Dec-20-10 09:17 PM   #154 
  - He will flip and testify against assange to spare himself execution  Pavulon   Dec-20-10 05:33 PM   #123 
  - K&R  madmax   Dec-20-10 05:34 PM   #124 
  - This the same kind of stuff Thomas Cromwell ordered done to  sirthomas66   Dec-20-10 07:17 PM   #128 
  - Jesus Christ, what a country!  irislake   Dec-20-10 07:53 PM   #137 
  - I wish I lived next door  abelenkpe   Dec-20-10 08:38 PM   #145 
  - Wondered if some day I was going have to say, "I'm ashamed to be an American"....  defendandprotect   Dec-20-10 08:20 PM   #138 
  - KICK and Rec  Homer Wells   Dec-20-10 08:22 PM   #139 
  - FTA nt  Joey Liberal   Dec-20-10 08:24 PM   #140 
  - isolation of this sort is punitive and so illegal.  Vattel   Dec-20-10 08:26 PM   #141 
  - someone painted the floor with the contents  Pavulon   Dec-20-10 09:26 PM   #159 
     - I am not claiming that he shouldn't be in protective custody.  Vattel   Dec-21-10 06:09 AM   #164 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-20-10 08:46 PM   #147 
  - And, somehow, you'd be wrong.  EFerrari   Dec-20-10 09:21 PM   #156 
  - You'd be wrong ....  defendandprotect   Dec-20-10 09:49 PM   #163 
  - They are effectively destroying his testimony  lovuian   Dec-20-10 09:19 PM   #155 
  - he will be just fine, he is getting meds and not in genpop where  Pavulon   Dec-20-10 09:25 PM   #157 
  - Bullshit, leaking is a solid crime!  LAGC   Dec-20-10 09:49 PM   #162 
  - If a smidge of justice is left anywhere, fact Manning was held in Isolation should disqualify...  defendandprotect   Dec-20-10 09:43 PM   #160 
  - Did Wikileaks ever pony up the 100k they promised Manning's defense? Why aren't DUers asking  msanthrope   Dec-21-10 08:23 AM   #167 
     - Since Wikileaks has funding issues thanks to BoA, Paypal, Mastercard, etc refusing to process paymen  WillYourVoteBCounted   Dec-21-10 01:30 PM   #170 

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