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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-11 05:59 AM
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55. since clinton i have become more radicalized -- in particular
my views about the democratic party, the two party system, etc.

the democratic party is now essentially a neo-liberal party.

the primacy of the corporate sphere and the small cuts to the commons and entitlement programs.

i think that pretty defines the dems today.
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  -Have you become more or less "radicalized" since Obama took office? coti  Feb-12-11 10:21 PM   #0 
  - I agree with you completely...  CaliforniaPeggy   Feb-12-11 10:23 PM   #1 
  - I continue to get more radical no matter who holds the office.  Webster Green   Feb-12-11 10:24 PM   #2 
  - I was going to maybe post serious (as usual delete) but  PufPuf23   Feb-12-11 10:41 PM   #7 
     - By any chance, are you due beer and travel money?  Webster Green   Feb-12-11 10:48 PM   #11 
  - More. Obama's betrayal has destroyed my faith in mainstream politics.  Odin2005   Feb-12-11 10:24 PM   #3 
  - +1  emilyg   Feb-12-11 10:55 PM   #13 
  - And the Clinton Administration didn't?  leftstreet   Feb-12-11 11:18 PM   #19 
  - I was a kid in the 90s, that that doesn't count.  Odin2005   Feb-12-11 11:23 PM   #20 
  - Fair enough  leftstreet   Feb-12-11 11:23 PM   #21 
     - *Rips up chuck of turf, runs*  Odin2005   Feb-12-11 11:48 PM   #25 
  - I misssed this. Yes!!  PufPuf23   Feb-12-11 11:55 PM   #27 
  - Thej first time around, I told myself it was a one-off ...  markpkessinger   Feb-12-11 11:57 PM   #28 
  - Same with me nt  Raine   Feb-13-11 04:22 AM   #51 
  - +1000!  SammyWinstonJack   Feb-13-11 05:50 PM   #61 
  - Stamp and cosign. We need to change the system through sustained organizing.  stillwaiting   Feb-13-11 07:44 PM   #64 
  - I think it's pretty clear corporate entities, wall street, banksters and other  RKP5637   Feb-12-11 10:26 PM   #4 
  - I don't think what you are saying would work, given how few agree with you.  BzaDem   Feb-12-11 10:31 PM   #5 
  - Obama seems to agree, in much the same vein as you, that it is useless to try in light of  coti   Feb-12-11 11:18 PM   #18 
  - "Obama seems to agree, in much the same vein as you, that it is useless to try"  BzaDem   Feb-12-11 11:45 PM   #24 
     - "I'm not claiming one way or the other that *your* solution is 'useless to try' in the abstact." No  coti   Feb-13-11 01:40 AM   #37 
        - "The HCR bill is an excellent example of this"  BzaDem   Feb-13-11 02:15 AM   #39 
           - Social Security is a 100% government program that pays out only through taxes it collects.  coti   Feb-13-11 02:28 AM   #42 
              - I'm sure in the future, those who are opposed to the next big piece of progress  BzaDem   Feb-13-11 02:38 AM   #44 
                 - Yeah, if there's anything I'm not that great at, it's analysis and making distinctions  coti   Feb-13-11 02:41 AM   #45 
  - I do not not know how to do something practical except face to face but can do the math.  PufPuf23   Feb-12-11 11:49 PM   #26 
     - Great post, if I interpret it correctly.  coti   Feb-13-11 01:49 AM   #38 
  - Radicalized is the only option  tularetom   Feb-12-11 10:36 PM   #6 
  - my opinion  Skittles   Feb-12-11 10:41 PM   #8 
  - What is alarming moreso sad is that the corruption and Plutocray is local, regional, Federal,  PufPuf23   Feb-12-11 10:43 PM   #9 
  - oh yeah  Skittles   Feb-12-11 10:45 PM   #10 
  - Yep, and is reality as you mentioned earlier. I agree and it's very sad, in fact crinimal IMO, but  RKP5637   Feb-12-11 10:52 PM   #12 
  - Yup, that's it in a nutshell. Well said. (nt)  scarletwoman   Feb-12-11 10:57 PM   #15 
  - Radicalized and disenfranchised.  Edweird   Feb-12-11 10:56 PM   #14 
  - Less's harder to rail against your OWN SIDE.  PassingFair   Feb-12-11 11:07 PM   #16 
  - Yes but to be fair, it would have happened during the Clinton years  EFerrari   Feb-12-11 11:11 PM   #17 
  - I'm definitely more radicalized.  Raksha   Feb-12-11 11:26 PM   #22 
  - The Obama Presidency made clear what I'd long feared...  RufusTFirefly   Feb-12-11 11:32 PM   #23 
  - Well said. nt  Mojorabbit   Feb-13-11 01:03 AM   #35 
  - I think Obama is doing what he has to  veganlush   Feb-12-11 11:59 PM   #29 
  - Clinton got his second term, and the progressive renaissance never came with it...  markpkessinger   Feb-13-11 12:00 AM   #30 
     - Perhaps that was because both houses of Congress were Republican?  BzaDem   Feb-13-11 12:02 AM   #31 
        - I'm not getting into a discussion of whose "fault" it is  markpkessinger   Feb-13-11 12:11 AM   #32 
           - I guess I agree with you that there will probably not be a progressive renaissance in 2013  BzaDem   Feb-13-11 12:33 AM   #33 
              - Just keep that hope low. Good job.  coti   Feb-13-11 02:34 AM   #43 
                 - If I wanted to manipulate the masses into being hopeless, I'm sure there would be more efficient  BzaDem   Feb-13-11 02:48 AM   #46 
                    - Sure, but you would have said that no matter the situation.  coti   Feb-13-11 02:54 AM   #47 
                    - I didn't think we were going to lose the senate in 2008, or that we would lose seats in 2006.  BzaDem   Feb-13-11 03:13 AM   #48 
                    - I think I'm going to start calling you Gmork. nt  coti   Feb-13-11 03:15 AM   #49 
  - Much more "radicalized".  pa28   Feb-13-11 12:48 AM   #34 
  - The last comment on that thread is about censorship  RandomThoughts   Feb-13-11 01:10 AM   #36 
     - The beer and travel money problem is really at the end of the whole thing.  pa28   Feb-13-11 02:20 AM   #41 
     - It was never stolen.  RandomThoughts   Feb-13-11 03:22 AM   #50 
     - Can you explain exactly what you're referring to as "beer and travel money," and  coti   Feb-13-11 07:35 PM   #62 
  - Didn't know politics was about personalities, and that Obama was a dictator......  FrenchieCat   Feb-13-11 02:16 AM   #40 
  - I've always been a radical  Le Taz Hot   Feb-13-11 04:24 AM   #52 
  - I've certainly realized how much of a leftist  Raine   Feb-13-11 04:30 AM   #53 
  - The same. Mad as hell.  mmonk   Feb-13-11 04:52 AM   #54 
  - since clinton i have become more radicalized -- in particular  xchrom   Feb-13-11 05:59 AM   #55 
  - Are you better off now than you were four years ago?  GeorgeGist   Feb-13-11 12:10 PM   #56 
  - I am. As are most of those that I know.  JoePhilly   Feb-13-11 07:49 PM   #65 
  - Well, I voted MORE, but only...........  socialist_n_TN   Feb-13-11 12:33 PM   #57 
  - I'm the same. Others' perception of me has changed.  LWolf   Feb-13-11 12:53 PM   #58 
  - HUGE K & R !!! - Hey coti, Have You Had A Chance To Read THIS:  WillyT   Feb-13-11 01:11 PM   #59 
  - That's a great article. It's exactly what needs to be done. nt  coti   Feb-13-11 05:48 PM   #60 
  - I wouldn't say I'm more radicalized  rucky   Feb-13-11 07:39 PM   #63 
  - I've been radicalized for over 40 years,  Blue_In_AK   Feb-13-11 07:49 PM   #66 
  - Politics at best gives a little freedom  Scruffy1   Feb-13-11 08:06 PM   #67 

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