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| 149. No, I unequivocally do not want what happened in Egypt to happen here. |
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We have elections that decide who governs - our situation is nothing like Egypt's.
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| -Americans, do you wish somehow our countrymen were able to do what the Egyptians did |
Duer 157099 |
Feb-11-11 10:21 AM |
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How I wish my country would follow the example of these brave Arabs! nt |
ProgressiveMuslim |
Feb-11-11 10:23 AM |
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I'd like to see a real revolt on Wall Street, I mean scare the hell out |
monmouth |
Feb-11-11 04:29 PM |
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We did on November 4, 2008, or did you forget. . . |
wndycty |
Feb-11-11 10:23 AM |
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It is just amazing that people believe we are in the same situation as Egypt. What planet are they |
still_one |
Feb-11-11 10:27 AM |
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Hahahah, so we have the choice of corporatist #1 or corporatist #2 |
Duer 157099 |
Feb-11-11 10:33 AM |
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That was my thought. |
Skip_In_Boulder |
Feb-11-11 10:43 AM |
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There are more people than corporations, and if they organized and voted it would be different |
still_one |
Feb-11-11 10:49 AM |
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No, we don't have a free choice. |
originalpckelly |
Feb-11-11 10:54 AM |
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Then don't vote for those candidates, and if your party does not support progressive ideas, then |
still_one |
Feb-11-11 10:56 AM |
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Who would they vote for? |
sabrina 1 |
Feb-12-11 05:23 AM |
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And worse, people feel helpless to bring about change. We want option a non-corporatist option! |
ProgressiveMuslim |
Feb-11-11 11:03 AM |
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Then support candidates who have that view, and are progressive. The tea party movement is the |
still_one |
Feb-11-11 11:12 AM |
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The teabaggers are organized through rich corporate interests. |
JVS |
Feb-12-11 05:14 AM |
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Johnson resigned because of the war, and the dissent within his base. That war would have ended |
still_one |
Feb-12-11 11:02 AM |
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LBJ resigned? |
SDuderstadt |
Feb-12-11 12:11 PM |
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He didn't run for another term, that is what I meant. On that point you are quibbling with my |
still_one |
Feb-12-11 12:38 PM |
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Do you know anything about... |
SDuderstadt |
Feb-12-11 12:45 PM |
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I told you what I meant. Diss me all you want. Have a good day. /nt |
still_one |
Feb-12-11 12:48 PM |
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Maybe writing more clearly would... |
SDuderstadt |
Feb-12-11 01:05 PM |
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What planet are they [we] on? The neocon planet. |
Raksha |
Feb-12-11 12:49 PM |
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Yes, I wish we could unite against the common enemies that |
alsame |
Feb-11-11 10:24 AM |
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It could happen here and now is the time - not to remove the prez... |
polichick |
Feb-11-11 10:24 AM |
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Unfortunately the reason it will not happen here |
pennylane100 |
Feb-11-11 10:24 AM |
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Yes, that certainly is the illusion |
Duer 157099 |
Feb-11-11 10:26 AM |
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It certainly is a powerful delusion - but one more and more people understand. nt |
polichick |
Feb-11-11 10:32 AM |
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Feb-11-11 10:25 AM |
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I'd rather a Democrat would have won |
Duer 157099 |
Feb-11-11 10:28 AM |
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Feb-11-11 10:30 AM |
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A Democrat did win |
wndycty |
Feb-11-11 10:37 AM |
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Yes. |
FredStembottom |
Feb-11-11 10:47 AM |
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As your OP aptly illustrates. |
LanternWaste |
Feb-11-11 12:25 PM |
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No of course not |
quinnox |
Feb-11-11 10:25 AM |
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That is total B.S. The situation in Egypt doesn't even compare to here. We have elections. Maybe |
still_one |
Feb-11-11 10:25 AM |
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Its an insult to the sufferieng of these people to think ours even comes close. |
phleshdef |
Feb-11-11 10:27 AM |
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Absolutely. /nt |
still_one |
Feb-11-11 10:27 AM |
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Arrogance is the only word to describe this kind of comparison. |
Pisces |
Feb-11-11 10:29 AM |
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Feb-11-11 10:07 PM |
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Tell that to the homeless and impoverished in this country! |
Duer 157099 |
Feb-11-11 10:29 AM |
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What an immature, but totally predictable response. |
phleshdef |
Feb-11-11 10:37 AM |
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American Exceptionalism is alive and well |
Duer 157099 |
Feb-11-11 10:42 AM |
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No. I mostly don't embrace silly "isms". I'm just stating the facts of measurable reality. |
phleshdef |
Feb-11-11 11:15 AM |
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So there are no differences between our two nations? |
WatsonT |
Feb-11-11 10:55 AM |
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that's a hell of a strawman. |
dionysus |
Feb-11-11 10:58 AM |
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Your problems might not approach Egypt's... but the urban poor I work with have it |
ProgressiveMuslim |
Feb-11-11 11:05 AM |
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Like Demand Wall St Crooks be "Dethroned and Prosecuted" |
FreakinDJ |
Feb-11-11 10:28 AM |
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That one might actually fly |
Duer 157099 |
Feb-11-11 10:30 AM |
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Un-recced. There is no comparison between here and Egypt. |
madinmaryland |
Feb-11-11 10:29 AM |
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Sure there is. We don't have "free and fair elections" and our government... |
polichick |
Feb-11-11 10:30 AM |
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Thank you. That is my point. It is all illusion. |
Duer 157099 |
Feb-11-11 10:31 AM |
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I'm with you - it would be thrilling to see an awakening here! nt |
polichick |
Feb-11-11 10:32 AM |
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Sloganeering |
treestar |
Feb-12-11 12:01 PM |
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We DO have a common enemy - corporations and the wealthy. |
HughBeaumont |
Feb-11-11 10:32 AM |
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Of course...nt |
KansDem |
Feb-11-11 10:34 AM |
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From a propaganda standpoint it's called divide and conquer. |
Lint Head |
Feb-11-11 10:34 AM |
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Yes, that has worked in this country for a long time... |
polichick |
Feb-11-11 10:48 AM |
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We have our imperfect elections. |
Dappleganger |
Feb-11-11 10:36 AM |
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Comments like this mock the condition of the Egyptian people |
lukasahero |
Feb-11-11 10:39 AM |
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Really? Admiring their bravery and resolve mocks them? |
Duer 157099 |
Feb-11-11 10:40 AM |
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No - comparing the condition of America to that of Egypt does |
lukasahero |
Feb-11-11 10:51 AM |
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So when exactly did I make that comparison? |
Duer 157099 |
Feb-11-11 10:57 AM |
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That's ridiculous - they were inspired by others and we should be inspired by them. nt |
polichick |
Feb-11-11 10:42 AM |
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And if we lived in a 3rd world dictatorship, you might have a point |
lukasahero |
Feb-11-11 10:52 AM |
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Sorry to burst your bubble of delusion, but we also need fair elections... |
polichick |
Feb-11-11 10:55 AM |
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Complacent much? n/t |
Duer 157099 |
Feb-11-11 10:57 AM |
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"Let the Tunisians have their moment" |
Duer 157099 |
Feb-11-11 10:44 AM |
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It won't happen the same way but it will happen here |
tavalon |
Feb-11-11 10:45 AM |
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It happened on November 4, 2008. . . |
wndycty |
Feb-11-11 10:49 AM |
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Yes, and we have found that it wasn't enough - corporations still rule... |
polichick |
Feb-11-11 10:53 AM |
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Yeah, we are learning that the trappings don't a democracy make |
tavalon |
Feb-11-11 07:50 PM |
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Well, that really hurts |
tavalon |
Feb-11-11 07:49 PM |
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Unrec for your negativity - of course it can happen here. nt |
TBF |
Feb-11-11 10:46 AM |
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I'd love to feel optimism. Please share your vision. |
Duer 157099 |
Feb-11-11 10:48 AM |
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Then get enough people to vote out those that you believe are undermining the party or the country |
still_one |
Feb-11-11 10:54 AM |
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This has nothing to do with voting - it is people in the streets. |
TBF |
Feb-11-11 10:58 AM |
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It has everything to do with voting. We can vote the bums out, the Egyptians couldn't |
still_one |
Feb-11-11 11:04 AM |
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If voting changed anything they'd make it illegal - Emma Goldman |
TBF |
Feb-11-11 11:06 AM |
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Well if enough people shared your view then it would. /nt |
still_one |
Feb-11-11 11:16 AM |
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How soon we forget (dial up warning - lots of photos) ... |
TBF |
Feb-11-11 10:57 AM |
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+ 300 million |
maryf |
Feb-12-11 07:39 AM |
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There are things we can learn from this, and I hope we do. |
Waiting For Everyman |
Feb-11-11 10:50 AM |
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It should have happened in 2003 = invasion of Iraq. |
LeftinOH |
Feb-11-11 10:51 AM |
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They do on a regular basis |
WatsonT |
Feb-11-11 10:53 AM |
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NO, because we don't need to! |
Rex |
Feb-11-11 10:53 AM |
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Try again. Corporations put people in to power, even BO. And 3 ppl alone isn't going to do much. |
Shagbark Hickory |
Feb-11-11 10:56 AM |
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You know what is disturbing both parties, and the corporations it is the power of people. The civil |
still_one |
Feb-11-11 11:00 AM |
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Yes, good example. What has happened since then? We couldn't get people to give up |
Shagbark Hickory |
Feb-11-11 11:58 AM |
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We have to vote for whoever makes the most expensive, slickest ads? |
treestar |
Feb-12-11 11:59 AM |
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LOL, thanks for the good laugh. |
Duer 157099 |
Feb-11-11 11:00 AM |
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I've been using the word pathetic a lot. |
Rex |
Feb-11-11 11:29 AM |
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o yea of little faith... |
blindpig |
Feb-11-11 10:57 AM |
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Obama would never resign. |
bigwillq |
Feb-11-11 10:58 AM |
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They said that about Mubarak too. |
TBF |
Feb-11-11 10:59 AM |
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He wouldn't have to, as long as he doesn't stand in the way of changes... |
polichick |
Feb-11-11 10:59 AM |
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And why should he? We have a democracy and he has done nothing that would require him to |
wndycty |
Feb-11-11 11:00 AM |
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It's a joke, dude (nt) |
bigwillq |
Feb-11-11 11:02 AM |
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If only he'd resign and let the army take over! |
treestar |
Feb-12-11 11:57 AM |
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U answered UR own Question. We could try to fight for certain things... |
Shagbark Hickory |
Feb-11-11 10:58 AM |
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The streets or the polling place? |
wndycty |
Feb-11-11 11:00 AM |
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The streets. Elections are bought and paid for in the us of a. |
Shagbark Hickory |
Feb-11-11 11:56 AM |
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Totally amazed |
NoPasaran |
Feb-11-11 10:59 AM |
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Nice try, but that's not what progressives would be marching for. nt |
polichick |
Feb-11-11 11:01 AM |
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And the attention of the world |
azul |
Feb-11-11 11:01 AM |
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LOL. I posted this yesterday: |
Downtown Hound |
Feb-11-11 11:02 AM |
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Who would we overthrow, Obama? |
DainBramaged |
Feb-11-11 11:04 AM |
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Voters could make demands - verifiable elections, public financing... |
polichick |
Feb-11-11 11:07 AM |
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I believe the goal would be overthrowing capitalism - |
TBF |
Feb-11-11 11:08 AM |
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And how do we do that, kill all of the Capitalists? |
DainBramaged |
Feb-11-11 11:09 AM |
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How about just reinstituting... |
SDuderstadt |
Feb-11-11 11:10 AM |
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That's what I'd be going for . . . because we sure as shit don't have that now. |
HughBeaumont |
Feb-11-11 11:17 AM |
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I don't believe a lot of critics of... |
SDuderstadt |
Feb-11-11 11:20 AM |
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That's because you are under the mistaken belief that capitalism is a set of organizational... |
JVS |
Feb-12-11 05:18 AM |
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WTF? n/t |
SDuderstadt |
Feb-12-11 12:18 PM |
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Serious question... |
SDuderstadt |
Feb-11-11 11:33 AM |
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Serious question... how do you regulate the capitalism to make it fair? nt |
TBF |
Feb-11-11 11:58 AM |
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Study "democratic capitalism" and... |
SDuderstadt |
Feb-11-11 12:08 PM |
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By it's nature capitalism does not respond to regulation - |
TBF |
Feb-11-11 12:14 PM |
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Thanks for the non-answer... |
SDuderstadt |
Feb-11-11 12:18 PM |
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We already have democratic capitalism and I have watched how well it works |
TBF |
Feb-11-11 12:59 PM |
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We do not have "democratic capitalism" |
SDuderstadt |
Feb-11-11 01:02 PM |
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You're wrong. Look it up, dude. nt |
TBF |
Feb-11-11 01:07 PM |
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YOU look it up... |
SDuderstadt |
Feb-11-11 01:10 PM |
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No, I would prefer for President Obama to complete his term and |
Freddie Stubbs |
Feb-11-11 11:10 AM |
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wtf? no. two different countries. duh.... nt |
seabeyond |
Feb-11-11 11:10 AM |
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Yes. Will may be the last country to revolt. But the process is starting. |
readmoreoften |
Feb-11-11 11:19 AM |
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Damn the Bohemian Grove! |
kctim |
Feb-11-11 11:21 AM |
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Don't blame the trees, man. |
Duer 157099 |
Feb-11-11 11:31 AM |
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Only the blind cannot see that it is |
kctim |
Feb-11-11 12:16 PM |
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I wish we had done it back in 2004 |
librechik |
Feb-11-11 12:15 PM |
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Storm the gates!... er... Damn the torpedoes!... er... Give 'em hell!... er... Down with up!... er.. |
cherokeeprogressive |
Feb-11-11 12:21 PM |
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Then you'd be really, really depressed to find out what I do |
Duer 157099 |
Feb-11-11 12:23 PM |
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Oh, please, please tell me... |
SDuderstadt |
Feb-11-11 12:30 PM |
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Some kind of Engineer. I'd bet on it. You can design really cool screwdrivers... |
cherokeeprogressive |
Feb-11-11 01:21 PM |
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lol! |
uponit7771 |
Feb-11-11 12:26 PM |
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absolutely not. We have our 2, 4 and 6 year elections... |
yawnmaster |
Feb-11-11 12:34 PM |
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Well said...n/t |
SDuderstadt |
Feb-11-11 12:35 PM |
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It can and will happen here if we don't get real change. Don't believe the hype. |
grahamhgreen |
Feb-11-11 01:00 PM |
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The "hype" is from the members of the far left and the tea party ... each demading |
JoePhilly |
Feb-11-11 04:15 PM |
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THE POLLS, the people want, no demand, an end to the wars, taxing the ultra-rich, |
grahamhgreen |
Feb-11-11 04:27 PM |
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I'll be wating to see you leading the revolution, which days should I block ... |
JoePhilly |
Feb-11-11 04:46 PM |
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We don't need a revolution - just representation. |
grahamhgreen |
Feb-11-11 07:44 PM |
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There is only one poll that matters in this country... |
badtoworse |
Feb-12-11 12:16 PM |
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We've had an autocratic dictator in power for 30 years?! |
Codeine |
Feb-11-11 01:15 PM |
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What did you think the reagangasm last sunday was about? |
JVS |
Feb-11-11 04:18 PM |
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Reagan left office when his term expired. |
Throd |
Feb-11-11 08:32 PM |
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But Reaganism has lingered. Every president since has been a Reaganite. |
immoderate |
Feb-11-11 10:12 PM |
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No, not at all. President Obama was elected in a free and fair election. |
Throd |
Feb-11-11 02:03 PM |
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Those bastard Republicans are going to have to think twice if they want to steal it again. |
sofa king |
Feb-11-11 04:11 PM |
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Snore. |
cottonseed |
Feb-11-11 04:17 PM |
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Egypt has a long way to go, free elections, independent judiciary, free press and |
harun |
Feb-11-11 04:17 PM |
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YOU Knocked it right out of the Park |
fascisthunter |
Feb-11-11 07:46 PM |
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Use mass protests to get the military to take over the government? |
Telly Savalas |
Feb-11-11 08:46 PM |
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Well put! |
badtoworse |
Feb-12-11 12:08 PM |
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No - I like Obama in the White House. |
hack89 |
Feb-11-11 09:47 PM |
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Would this hinder my mom getting her social security checks? |
JVS |
Feb-12-11 05:26 AM |
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The only thing hindering Social Security are the two parties who want to bankrupt |
TBF |
Feb-12-11 06:49 AM |
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Oh, HELL yes! |
Le Taz Hot |
Feb-12-11 06:52 AM |
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We did it in 1776 |
treestar |
Feb-12-11 11:55 AM |
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No, I unequivocally do not want what happened in Egypt to happen here. |
badtoworse |
Feb-12-11 12:08 PM |
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WE DO THIS EVERY FOUR YEARS |
Countdown_3_2_1 |
Feb-12-11 12:16 PM |
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People do not vote |
creon |
Feb-12-11 12:52 PM |
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