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du_da Donating Member (239 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-11 04:40 PM
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88. No one said anything about surrendering.
It does however obligate us to come to reality about our situation. We simply don't have the numbers and if we can't convince others either the centrists or the right to help us then we can't get anything done. That means we have to be careful about how we deal with these people. We can't be approaching them with insults and accusations unless we want to not be taken seriously. We also have to realize where the limitations of what we can get done are because of the current situation and work within those confines and push our efforts to educating the people in preparation to better prepare the environment in the future. However, that education again means we have to be aware of the methods we use to communicate.

If we focus on the idealists at the expense of the centrists we loose, there aren't enough of them yet. We have to build up the idealists ranks first. It worked in 2008 purely because of the disgust toward Bush. Sorry to use the term again, but we don't get that luxury again. So what are we going to rely upon the economy improving? We can only rely on that if the private sector starts creating jobs because the republicans aren't going to let the government do it, and we have been entirely incapable of convincing the private sector to start hiring because we have managed to convince them we are out to get them. Now they are too scared of what might happen down the road if they start hiring again. Method is important in politics because people have memories.

You say those programs are sacred well how sacred do you think they are going to be if we loose control of the Senate and the White House again? There are no sacred cows in politics. We don't have to like it but we have to accept the reality of the situation and work within its confines to improve our own position. Now if you think there is a way to press to the left without loosing even more ground then we are all listening, but I don't see that path available until we get out there and build up the ranks. We have to start convincing others to join us. Until then we are in full stop the leaking ship mode. Which wouldn't be so bad but we are our own worst enemy when it comes to convincing others of anything because our methods tend to turn them off before we even get started. If we can't fix that then all the leaning left in the world isn't going to save those who need us most.
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