| 106. thank you, for the clarification. nt |
| -Peta Ad That Was Banned From Superbowl |
lame54 |
Feb-10-11 11:59 AM |
#0 |
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to sell veggies all they use is sex sex sex. well i think it's a little weird to see |
boston bean |
Feb-10-11 12:03 PM |
#1 |
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I find it ironic and disturbing that they rely so much on objectifying women |
XemaSab |
Feb-10-11 12:09 PM |
#4 |
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I know. |
EyeofRamen |
Feb-10-11 12:25 PM |
#7 |
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And I'm still not seeing frat boy type men going vegan en masse. |
Hello_Kitty |
Feb-10-11 12:27 PM |
#10 |
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had girls in lingerie, on a bed, on a corner street downtown amarillo. in feb. result? |
seabeyond |
Feb-10-11 12:30 PM |
#12 |
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And cold, I'll bet. |
EyeofRamen |
Feb-10-11 12:47 PM |
#19 |
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If I have to choose between meat and sex, meat is going to lose. |
Warren DeMontague |
Feb-10-11 01:08 PM |
#25 |
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What does that have to do with what I posted? |
Hello_Kitty |
Feb-10-11 01:11 PM |
#29 |
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Whatever you say. |
Warren DeMontague |
Feb-10-11 01:13 PM |
#32 |
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All PETA models have sex with me in my dreams |
CLANG |
Feb-10-11 02:59 PM |
#60 |
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Right on! |
superduperfarleft |
Feb-10-11 03:02 PM |
#61 |
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I disavow your use of the term "dumb broads". |
CLANG |
Feb-10-11 03:03 PM |
#62 |
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The creepiest Super Bowl Ad ever..................... |
Mojeoux |
Feb-10-11 08:11 PM |
#89 |
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Short memory...??? |
CanSocDem |
Feb-11-11 05:12 PM |
#133 |
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accidently my ass.... lol. oh my.... , lol. nt |
seabeyond |
Feb-11-11 05:22 PM |
#134 |
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Um, CanSocDem, the creepiest S.B. ad ever, was the same year as the "malfunction." |
Mojeoux |
Feb-11-11 06:13 PM |
#137 |
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that's what I meant, but you put it much better....thank you.. |
boston bean |
Feb-10-11 12:32 PM |
#13 |
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Personally, I find women in lingerie less offensive than comparing chickens to jews in the holocaust |
Warren DeMontague |
Feb-10-11 12:50 PM |
#21 |
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Have you given up meat because of them? |
Hello_Kitty |
Feb-10-11 01:13 PM |
#31 |
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No. But I also have not progressed in my enlightenment to the point of getting outraged |
Warren DeMontague |
Feb-10-11 01:14 PM |
#33 |
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Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Feb-10-11 01:20 PM |
#38 |
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So do you like to watch women in lingerie almost fucking cabbages and carrots? nt |
boston bean |
Feb-10-11 04:42 PM |
#78 |
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No, absolutely not. |
Warren DeMontague |
Feb-10-11 07:52 PM |
#82 |
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good, so you now understand how you failed to get the point. |
boston bean |
Feb-10-11 09:07 PM |
#94 |
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Right, I have stubbornly refused to be re-educated, and as such am still irritatingly un-outraged by |
Warren DeMontague |
Feb-10-11 11:36 PM |
#107 |
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That is so wrong on so many levels... |
darkstar3 |
Feb-10-11 11:45 PM |
#109 |
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Sorry, really, I am. |
Warren DeMontague |
Feb-10-11 11:53 PM |
#111 |
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Oh don't be sorry, |
darkstar3 |
Feb-10-11 11:54 PM |
# |
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I'm not saying that there aren't other problems with their message |
XemaSab |
Feb-10-11 09:44 PM |
#102 |
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The difference, as I see it, is that sex isn't oppression. The Holocaust was. |
Warren DeMontague |
Feb-10-11 11:42 PM |
#108 |
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Well, I'm thinking that people here would be much less offended, exploitation-wise, |
darkstar3 |
Feb-10-11 11:49 PM |
#110 |
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I agree about the men. I think they should have them in the mix, for sure. |
Warren DeMontague |
Feb-10-11 11:54 PM |
#112 |
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Well, I'm not suggesting that hairy or even "manscaped" dudes model bras, |
darkstar3 |
Feb-10-11 11:58 PM |
#113 |
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If it wasn't, the ads wouldn't exist. |
Warren DeMontague |
Feb-11-11 01:58 PM |
#120 |
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You've never heard of a failed ad campaign? |
darkstar3 |
Feb-11-11 02:47 PM |
#124 |
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PETA's got us talking about this one, and they didn't even have to run the ad. |
Warren DeMontague |
Feb-11-11 04:45 PM |
#127 |
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PETA has us talking about how asinine they are. I wouldn't call that a success. |
darkstar3 |
Feb-11-11 04:53 PM |
#130 |
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I spend a lot of time researching religious fundamentalists |
XemaSab |
Feb-11-11 01:48 AM |
#117 |
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The places where women are the most oppressed, they can't be seen in public without a burka |
Warren DeMontague |
Feb-11-11 01:59 PM |
#121 |
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Spoken like a true Howard Stern egalitarian/feminist. |
darkstar3 |
Feb-11-11 02:48 PM |
#125 |
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You can toss out whatever labels you like |
Warren DeMontague |
Feb-11-11 04:46 PM |
#128 |
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And you continue to think that people here mean sex is oppressive. |
darkstar3 |
Feb-11-11 04:55 PM |
#131 |
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No, the issue is attractive women in lingerie that many people find erotic. |
Warren DeMontague |
Feb-11-11 07:14 PM |
#141 |
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For me personally? |
darkstar3 |
Feb-11-11 09:51 PM |
#143 |
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I think there are people here who think any display of nudity or eroticism is inherently oppressive. |
Warren DeMontague |
Feb-11-11 11:56 PM |
#147 |
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You're starting to understand. |
darkstar3 |
Feb-12-11 02:36 AM |
#148 |
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Actually, my point originally was to the people who AREN'T on that page. |
Warren DeMontague |
Feb-12-11 02:54 AM |
#151 |
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Then you should address them specifically. |
darkstar3 |
Feb-12-11 03:46 AM |
#157 |
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Okay, so you don't give a shit about consent, & you don't think adults can make their own decisions |
Warren DeMontague |
Feb-12-11 03:53 AM |
#158 |
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Doesn't it seem odd that you have to twist what people say to make your point? |
darkstar3 |
Feb-12-11 04:01 AM |
#161 |
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I'm not twisting anything. It's clear that you think anyone who makes choices you don't like is |
Warren DeMontague |
Feb-12-11 03:45 PM |
#165 |
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may be the anti choicers, but not mine. you ignore what is being said to you, fabricate |
seabeyond |
Feb-12-11 04:30 PM |
#167 |
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Are "men" a monolithic entity? |
Warren DeMontague |
Feb-12-11 05:38 PM |
#169 |
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Yeah, but it's fun to see the anti-meat fundamentalists square off against the anti-sex ones. |
Warren DeMontague |
Feb-10-11 12:48 PM |
#20 |
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It's sad how you equate sex with objectifying women. |
Hello_Kitty |
Feb-10-11 01:16 PM |
#36 |
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It's sad how you equate any and all depiction of sex or sexuality with objectification. |
Warren DeMontague |
Feb-10-11 01:17 PM |
#37 |
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And you define sex as conventionally attractive young women in various poses |
Hello_Kitty |
Feb-10-11 01:24 PM |
#40 |
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You know an awful lot about me, don't you? |
Warren DeMontague |
Feb-10-11 02:16 PM |
#50 |
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I know that you think images of women designed to arouse heterosexual men are "sex" |
Hello_Kitty |
Feb-10-11 02:36 PM |
#57 |
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never mind. i agree with you, though. nt |
seabeyond |
Feb-10-11 02:52 PM |
#59 |
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I think the desires of straight women and LGBT are sex, too. |
Warren DeMontague |
Feb-10-11 07:49 PM |
#81 |
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And what's wrong with that? Oh, wait, don't bother. |
CLANG |
Feb-10-11 03:07 PM |
#63 |
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Defining it as "sex" and not simply "what straight men find sexy". |
Hello_Kitty |
Feb-10-11 03:18 PM |
#65 |
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Not sure what you're yammering about. |
CLANG |
Feb-10-11 03:19 PM |
#66 |
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That really doesn't surprise me. |
Hello_Kitty |
Feb-10-11 03:44 PM |
#73 |
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this talk is way above people's comprehension on this thread. |
jtown1123 |
Feb-10-11 03:21 PM |
#67 |
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I do read them. Great site. |
Hello_Kitty |
Feb-10-11 03:44 PM |
#74 |
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You seem to be reading a lot into a simple word. |
Marr |
Feb-10-11 03:34 PM |
#70 |
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Because words have meaning |
Hello_Kitty |
Feb-10-11 03:42 PM |
#72 |
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Ah, ok-- I do see your point now. |
Marr |
Feb-10-11 06:04 PM |
#79 |
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Okay, Anti-Some Sex, then. |
Warren DeMontague |
Feb-10-11 07:55 PM |
#84 |
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Who cares if it was weird. |
Lucian |
Feb-10-11 08:25 PM |
#93 |
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That there's what you call 'social commentary' nt |
sudopod |
Feb-10-11 09:23 PM |
#97 |
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Just like it gets "banned" every year.... |
superduperfarleft |
Feb-10-11 12:03 PM |
#2 |
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That ad is ridiculous. Good grief! n/t |
FourScore |
Feb-10-11 12:06 PM |
#3 |
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PETA's pathetic attempt |
Supply Side Jesus |
Feb-10-11 12:20 PM |
#5 |
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The organization uses shock, stridency and arrogance. |
bluestate10 |
Feb-11-11 10:31 PM |
#145 |
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jeeezus, we made it a whole couple of weeks without seeing this crap on du. nt |
seabeyond |
Feb-10-11 12:24 PM |
#6 |
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can't last forever |
lame54 |
Feb-10-11 12:27 PM |
#9 |
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yup. always someone... lol, to put this sexist garbage up. nt |
seabeyond |
Feb-10-11 12:28 PM |
#11 |
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If modified some to get past the censors it could have communicated an |
RKP5637 |
Feb-10-11 12:25 PM |
#8 |
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ya. this is off last years banned commercial. women fucking veggies. important message. nt |
seabeyond |
Feb-10-11 12:34 PM |
#14 |
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People fuck. Some people even fuck veggies. |
Warren DeMontague |
Feb-10-11 12:53 PM |
#23 |
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of course you dont understand. that is clear. nt |
seabeyond |
Feb-10-11 12:55 PM |
#24 |
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You could have a guy screwing a zucchini up there, it wouldn't bother me. |
Warren DeMontague |
Feb-10-11 01:09 PM |
#27 |
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Absolutely. It isn't the veggies and sexual innuendo that upsets the poster... |
OneTenthofOnePercent |
Feb-10-11 03:23 PM |
#68 |
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i bet you could find some black men willing to subjugate themselves to ridicule and degradation. |
seabeyond |
Feb-10-11 04:25 PM |
#77 |
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I agree that sex can be ridiculous, but why do you seem to believe it's degrading? |
Warren DeMontague |
Feb-10-11 07:57 PM |
#85 |
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"the public, as a whole" |
Hello_Kitty |
Feb-10-11 06:19 PM |
#80 |
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Okay, well, lots of straight men like to look at attractive women in lingerie. |
Warren DeMontague |
Feb-10-11 07:58 PM |
#86 |
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Lots of men like to watch porn, but we don't put it on TV. |
darkstar3 |
Feb-11-11 12:25 AM |
#115 |
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Honestly, I'm more upset by violence than I am by sex. I'm not terrified of human sexuality showing |
Warren DeMontague |
Feb-11-11 02:04 PM |
#122 |
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You purposely miss the point. |
darkstar3 |
Feb-11-11 03:12 PM |
#126 |
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"costuming decisions on older shows like Friends, Dharma and Greg" |
Warren DeMontague |
Feb-11-11 04:49 PM |
#129 |
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I merely pulled well-known examples. |
darkstar3 |
Feb-11-11 05:06 PM |
#132 |
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Or, it means you watch crappy, middle-brow tv. |
Warren DeMontague |
Feb-11-11 07:15 PM |
#142 |
| -
And again... |
darkstar3 |
Feb-11-11 10:06 PM |
#144 |
| -
Okay. Post #126: |
Warren DeMontague |
Feb-12-11 02:46 AM |
#149 |
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Allright, so we go point-by-point. |
darkstar3 |
Feb-12-11 03:24 AM |
#155 |
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There's a difference between missing your point, and not agreeing with it. |
Warren DeMontague |
Feb-12-11 03:40 AM |
#156 |
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You're not just disagreeing, you're attempting to redefine what I've said. |
darkstar3 |
Feb-12-11 03:55 AM |
#159 |
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I've said all I'm gonna say, in the other post. |
Warren DeMontague |
Feb-12-11 03:57 AM |
#160 |
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what is passed around. kim K. video calling her a ho, hit it. |
seabeyond |
Feb-12-11 08:56 AM |
#163 |
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I'm watching the ad again,and trying to imagine the sinister patriarchal coercion |
Warren DeMontague |
Feb-12-11 03:49 PM |
#166 |
| -
again, a whole bunch in your post that was never said.... making things up, again. again |
seabeyond |
Feb-12-11 04:44 PM |
#168 |
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" ignore the point that men dont see these women as whores and sluts." |
Warren DeMontague |
Feb-12-11 05:39 PM |
#170 |
| -
womans sexuality is for men. mens sexuality is for themselves. men own womans sexuality. |
seabeyond |
Feb-11-11 05:28 PM |
#135 |
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People tell me I have a knack for clarification. |
darkstar3 |
Feb-11-11 06:37 PM |
#138 |
| -
do they.... they tell me the opposite, bah ha hahaha |
seabeyond |
Feb-11-11 06:57 PM |
#139 |
| -
So what you really want is to see more guys in speedos, in tv commercials. |
Warren DeMontague |
Feb-12-11 02:56 AM |
#152 |
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PETA doesn't really want to pay the $3000000 to air it on the SB |
itsrobert |
Feb-10-11 12:38 PM |
#17 |
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You got it--and even the ads that do make it are designed to get |
blondeatlast |
Feb-10-11 12:46 PM |
#18 |
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Thanks, good point! n/t |
RKP5637 |
Feb-10-11 01:15 PM |
#34 |
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Why are they trying to sell veggies like this.... |
WCGreen |
Feb-10-11 12:37 PM |
#15 |
| -
I know. Won't someone think of the children? |
Warren DeMontague |
Feb-10-11 01:10 PM |
#28 |
| -
Not all vegetarians |
Coyote_Bandit |
Feb-10-11 12:38 PM |
#16 |
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Given the shitty state of health in the US, anything that gets people eating broccoli is good. |
Warren DeMontague |
Feb-10-11 12:52 PM |
#22 |
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Yeah, I know a lot of women who use asparagus to get off |
snooper2 |
Feb-10-11 01:09 PM |
#26 |
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Good grief. They must grow some big asparagus where you live. |
Warren DeMontague |
Feb-10-11 01:11 PM |
#30 |
| -
What was with the blindfold? That all looked rather piggish. |
Matariki |
Feb-10-11 01:15 PM |
#35 |
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I think blindfolds are a fairly common kink. |
Warren DeMontague |
Feb-10-11 02:18 PM |
#51 |
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Card carrying member of Peta. |
garybeck |
Feb-10-11 01:24 PM |
#39 |
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i use to support peta. i dont anymore. ya right... that accomplished what they were after. nt |
seabeyond |
Feb-10-11 01:27 PM |
#41 |
| -
So why is the conversation about PETA and not about abstaining from meat? |
superduperfarleft |
Feb-10-11 01:29 PM |
#42 |
| -
uh.... |
garybeck |
Feb-10-11 01:52 PM |
#45 |
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As to your first point |
superduperfarleft |
Feb-10-11 02:09 PM |
#47 |
| -
again, I'm saying that |
garybeck |
Feb-10-11 02:20 PM |
#52 |
| -
But it's NOT strictly a matter of quantity. |
superduperfarleft |
Feb-10-11 02:34 PM |
#56 |
| -
Good point, I'll only eat steak on Fridays! |
CLANG |
Feb-10-11 03:12 PM |
#64 |
| -
That's the same justification all groups that like to push their morality onto others use. |
FLPanhandle |
Feb-10-11 01:45 PM |
#44 |
| -
Personally I let people make their own choices. |
garybeck |
Feb-10-11 01:58 PM |
#46 |
| -
LOL |
FLPanhandle |
Feb-10-11 02:12 PM |
#49 |
| -
"you can be against factory farming without being against people eating meat" |
garybeck |
Feb-10-11 02:28 PM |
#55 |
| -
Fine. |
FLPanhandle |
Feb-10-11 03:34 PM |
#69 |
| -
I'm not defending this ad by any means, but how exactly is one "pushing their moral choices onto you |
superduperfarleft |
Feb-10-11 02:11 PM |
#48 |
| -
Just out of curiosity: Why can't you just write "vegan"? |
Warren DeMontague |
Feb-10-11 02:21 PM |
#53 |
| -
It's meant to encompass vegan and vegetarian. |
superduperfarleft |
Feb-10-11 02:22 PM |
#54 |
| -
Very good question |
FLPanhandle |
Feb-10-11 03:40 PM |
#71 |
| -
Personally, I don't see too many similarities. |
superduperfarleft |
Feb-10-11 03:56 PM |
#75 |
| -
I think the similarity is the fact both groups push their agenda in your face unbidden. |
FLPanhandle |
Feb-11-11 02:08 PM |
#123 |
| -
I don't get the "pissing people off" with "getting their message across" equivalence. |
Matariki |
Feb-10-11 02:37 PM |
#58 |
| -
"They might have pissed you off but they got their message across." |
darkstar3 |
Feb-11-11 12:16 AM |
#114 |
| -
Gee, how sad. |
LadyHawkAZ |
Feb-10-11 01:32 PM |
#43 |
| -
What a disgusting ad |
kctim |
Feb-10-11 04:19 PM |
#76 |
| -
Yep, this thread went about as usual. |
flvegan |
Feb-10-11 07:54 PM |
#83 |
| -
Wouldn't you be a little freaked out if it wasn't? |
Warren DeMontague |
Feb-10-11 07:59 PM |
#87 |
| -
You make a good point. |
flvegan |
Feb-10-11 08:14 PM |
#90 |
| -
peta went about as usual, hence the same response. peta got what they were looking for |
seabeyond |
Feb-10-11 09:20 PM |
#95 |
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They did, really. |
flvegan |
Feb-10-11 09:22 PM |
#96 |
| -
i that makes you proud? smarmy repugs do the same. teabaggers. christian coalition |
seabeyond |
Feb-10-11 09:27 PM |
#99 |
| -
I can't take pride in it |
flvegan |
Feb-10-11 09:30 PM |
#100 |
| -
why would we stand up for anything flvgan as long as you are there for a good laugh |
seabeyond |
Feb-10-11 09:35 PM |
#101 |
| -
Whoa, whoa. |
flvegan |
Feb-10-11 10:04 PM |
#103 |
| -
thank you, for the clarification. nt |
seabeyond |
Feb-10-11 10:24 PM |
#106 |
| -
Do they ever have Men in these type of Ads ? |
JI7 |
Feb-10-11 08:03 PM |
#88 |
| -
In their ads? Yes. |
flvegan |
Feb-10-11 09:23 PM |
#98 |
| -
not just in ads but similar to how they show the women |
JI7 |
Feb-10-11 10:13 PM |
#104 |
| -
Absolutely. |
flvegan |
Feb-10-11 10:17 PM |
#105 |
| -
Hot! |
Balbus |
Feb-10-11 08:20 PM |
#91 |
| -
That video made my celery go from limp to crisp. |
Lucian |
Feb-10-11 08:24 PM |
#92 |
| -
To comment directly on the ad itself, |
darkstar3 |
Feb-11-11 12:37 AM |
#116 |
| -
Who is the biggest attention whore: PETA or PALIN? |
cleanhippie |
Feb-11-11 01:51 AM |
#118 |
| -
Give me time to flip a coin fifteen times, first to eight wins. nt. |
bluestate10 |
Feb-11-11 10:50 PM |
#146 |
| -
PETA has a cause far greater than Palin. |
Skip Intro |
Feb-12-11 03:00 AM |
#154 |
| -
They never had any intention of running it during the Superbowl. PETA couldn't afford to do that. |
slackmaster |
Feb-11-11 01:54 AM |
#119 |
| -
For the amount of money .... |
CanSocDem |
Feb-11-11 06:01 PM |
#136 |
| -
Six animals died for my meals today. |
Countdown_3_2_1 |
Feb-11-11 07:04 PM |
#140 |
| -
Mmmmm, I wanna be asparagus! +edit |
Inchworm |
Feb-12-11 02:52 AM |
#150 |
| -
Yay PETA. They do what they do better than anyone. And the message was clear. Good job PETA. |
Skip Intro |
Feb-12-11 02:58 AM |
#153 |
| -
And what exactly is it that PETA does? |
darkstar3 |
Feb-12-11 04:06 AM |
#162 |
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"They do what they do better than anyone." |
superduperfarleft |
Feb-12-11 09:08 AM |
#164 |
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