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juajen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-10 12:44 PM
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60. Excuse me, I'm a progressive and I believe this story is bunk!
Why put on a condom and break it on purpose unless you want a child from the union. None of this story holds water. Bunk!
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  -If she's lying, it's not rape. If she's telling the truth, it's goddamn rape. Robb  Dec-19-10 07:10 AM   #0 
  - How are cases like this usually proven?  xor   Dec-19-10 07:15 AM   #1 
  - logically, they can't be  TorchTheWitch   Dec-19-10 09:38 AM   #32 
  - Since neither one of these two women went to the police  LisaL   Dec-19-10 09:55 AM   #34 
     - he admitted to having unprotected sex with them  TorchTheWitch   Dec-19-10 11:04 AM   #46 
        - Maybe you should read the OP article.  LisaL   Dec-19-10 01:16 PM   #67 
  - It's he said/she said apparently  LawnLover   Dec-19-10 10:54 AM   #45 
  - You do have an asbestos suit right?  NutmegYankee   Dec-19-10 07:22 AM   #2 
  - I don't see him as a hero. More as a flawed protagonist  cali   Dec-19-10 10:12 AM   #38 
     - I wasn't focusing on the rape charge.  NutmegYankee   Dec-20-10 08:45 AM   #78 
  - Read it: This does not compute  denem   Dec-19-10 07:24 AM   #3 
  - It's not if she's lying, by her own words it's not rape.  Hamlette   Dec-19-10 12:39 PM   #57 
     - she isn't required to do anything to stop him  TorchTheWitch   Dec-19-10 03:35 PM   #75 
        - you are reading more into this than is there  Hamlette   Dec-19-10 04:08 PM   #76 
  - This isn't "window dressing"...  Turborama   Dec-19-10 07:29 AM   #4 
  - Yes. If she's lying, it's not rape.  Robb   Dec-19-10 07:31 AM   #5 
  - I read the title of your OP  Turborama   Dec-19-10 07:34 AM   #7 
     - Do you agree, IF she's telling the truth THEN it's rape?  Robb   Dec-19-10 07:36 AM   #8 
        - If she's telling the truth about which version of events, exactly?  Turborama   Dec-19-10 07:40 AM   #9 
           - The two paragraphs I posted. If they occurred as written, is that rape?  Robb   Dec-19-10 07:45 AM   #12 
              - I'm pleading the 5th  Turborama   Dec-19-10 07:50 AM   #14 
                 - "Heated"?  Robb   Dec-19-10 07:56 AM   #16 
                 - Wise. n/t  Smarmie Doofus   Dec-19-10 08:03 AM   #21 
  - Thanks, Turborama. n/t  truth2power   Dec-19-10 10:01 AM   #36 
     - ditto here  tomm2thumbs   Dec-19-10 12:47 PM   #62 
  - It isn't rape regardless. You can't hold someone for a broken condom  redirish28   Dec-19-10 07:32 AM   #6 
  - If the complaint is true - he forced her to continue after the condom broke  stray cat   Dec-19-10 08:22 AM   #28 
  - DU is suddenly very enthusiastic to change its position on rape.  Codeine   Dec-19-10 12:18 PM   #54 
  - Excuse me, I'm a progressive and I believe this story is bunk!  juajen   Dec-19-10 12:44 PM   #60 
  - this isn't about a broken condom  TorchTheWitch   Dec-19-10 01:15 PM   #66 
  - The Latest Bright Shiny Toy...  KharmaTrain   Dec-19-10 07:43 AM   #10 
  - Bullshit  Catherina   Dec-19-10 07:45 AM   #11 
  - You don't believe her. But that doesn't answer the issue.  Robb   Dec-19-10 07:47 AM   #13 
  - Sincerely, no  Catherina   Dec-19-10 07:58 AM   #18 
  - I appreciate the answer, thank you.  Robb   Dec-19-10 08:00 AM   #19 
     - Thanks Robb. I edited to add that she let him stay in her bed  Catherina   Dec-19-10 08:22 AM   #29 
        - The psychology of rape is not so simple. It's not unusual for victims to share a bed, a meal,  Maru Kitteh   Dec-19-10 01:52 PM   #73 
  - It was Ardin herself who blogged about going to her new home in Yanoun Palestine  Catherina   Dec-19-10 08:20 AM   #26 
  - Even if you believe her side of the story a 100 %, does she state  LisaL   Dec-19-10 01:45 PM   #71 
  - Judging her about letting him stay at the apartment  treestar   Dec-19-10 10:16 AM   #40 
     - Not just her apartment. Her bed. While she raved about him. Double fail. n/t  Catherina   Dec-19-10 12:40 PM   #59 
  - Whether the leaks are true is the point.  rug   Dec-19-10 07:52 AM   #15 
  - I wholly believe the leaked documents are genuine.  Robb   Dec-19-10 07:57 AM   #17 
  - Then what is the point of speculating whether the leaker is a rapist?  rug   Dec-19-10 08:00 AM   #20 
     - Because it should have nothing to do with the leaks.  Robb   Dec-19-10 08:06 AM   #22 
  - The leaks about the accusations of sexual assault - because the truth of Wikileaks is irrelevant  stray cat   Dec-19-10 08:22 AM   #30 
  - I would agree..  sendero   Dec-19-10 08:07 AM   #23 
  - there's an in between  alc   Dec-19-10 08:11 AM   #24 
  - Maybe men shouldn't proceed unless they hear an enthusiastc yes  Nikia   Dec-19-10 09:56 AM   #35 
     - An enthusiastic yes, huh?  Silent3   Dec-19-10 10:48 AM   #43 
     - There are some men who are predatory sexually that look for excuses  Nikia   Dec-19-10 11:37 AM   #49 
        - You not inviting a certain kind of man into your home...  Silent3   Dec-19-10 01:34 PM   #70 
     - Wow...  krabigirl   Dec-19-10 11:46 AM   #51 
     - she could have said, " No " just once. but I haven't seen that reported. Have you?  bettyellen   Dec-19-10 11:48 AM   #52 
     - Whatever your opinion is, it's not the law. At least here in US.  LisaL   Dec-19-10 01:14 PM   #65 
  - If she's telling the truth, how is this rape? I cant see it. n/t  moobu2   Dec-19-10 08:19 AM   #25 
  - And if she is lying can she financially benefit from it?  zeemike   Dec-19-10 08:20 AM   #27 
  - Can a progressive be guilty of rape or only conservatives?  stray cat   Dec-19-10 08:23 AM   #31 
  - stupid rhetorical question  cali   Dec-19-10 10:10 AM   #37 
  - LOL  Forkboy   Dec-19-10 11:17 AM   #48 
  - That first checkbox is first for a reason. -nt  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Dec-19-10 01:16 PM   #68 
  - Did she ever say "no" or "stop" after she initiated the sex?  bettyellen   Dec-19-10 09:46 AM   #33 
  - True, and it is all independent of Wikileaks  treestar   Dec-19-10 10:13 AM   #39 
  - This has nothing to do with wikileaks.  Life Long Dem   Dec-19-10 10:23 AM   #41 
  - After reading all this, it appears the women  LisaL   Dec-19-10 10:24 AM   #42 
  - That's what's not mentioned, did these women say NO? At any time?  NotThisTime   Dec-19-10 11:42 AM   #50 
  - Good luck getting me to vote for such a conviction.  TheKentuckian   Dec-19-10 10:49 AM   #44 
  - Maybe  Demstud   Dec-19-10 11:14 AM   #47 
  - But after she supposedly held her arms and legs  LisaL   Dec-19-10 01:12 PM   #64 
  - She is probably lying and he will probably soon be dying.  deaniac21   Dec-19-10 12:16 PM   #53 
  - so ripping a condom = rape  Motown_Johnny   Dec-19-10 12:23 PM   #55 
  - Not rape unless she says "No" which she seems not to have done  Generic Other   Dec-19-10 12:33 PM   #56 
  - not from this clip, even if she's telling the truth, it's not rape.  Hamlette   Dec-19-10 12:40 PM   #58 
  - if you are going to be 'judge and jury' over 2 paragraphs from a newspaper, stay out of my courtroom  tomm2thumbs   Dec-19-10 12:46 PM   #61 
  - +1  Poll_Blind   Dec-19-10 01:46 PM   #72 
  - How did she know the condom was ripped? n/t  Lucinda   Dec-19-10 12:54 PM   #63 
  - Agreed...  SidDithers   Dec-19-10 01:20 PM   #69 
  - K & R  Scurrilous   Dec-19-10 02:27 PM   #74 
  - Avoid having any sex in Sweden. In fact, don't even rub elbows with anyone there.  glinda   Dec-19-10 04:14 PM   #77 

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