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| The reason the death of DADT shakes straight, rightwing men to their very core |
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is because it destroys the myth that they have long perpetuated about gay men: that they are all lisping, immoral, weak and cowardly. This myth and other convenient stereotypes have long served as their bulwark against attacks on their heterosexist, patriarchal grip on power in this country.
Psychologically, the destruction of this myth has long term, profound consequences for the hierarchy of dominance in this nation of ours - all of them healthy and all of them good for both women in general and gay men specifically.
Today is far more powerful than if 15% of the NFL all came out of the closet at once. Or if all the gay movie stars suddenly had the urge to be publicly honest about who they are.
It's far more powerful because that aging, rightwing marine sitting on his couch in southern Indiana never was a football player or a movie star.
But he was a marine once and that identification has been the single, most powerful tool to enable him to self justify his rank prejudices and aggressive opposition to positive, generational growth and change.
The destruction of Don't Ask Don't Tell takes the mask off. And what is left is the emperor with no clothes, clutching his Bud light and his remote control, suddenly very, very angry, very insecure and very unsure about his position of dominance in a new America.
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| -The reason the death of DADT shakes straight, rightwing men to their very core |
ruggerson |
Dec-18-10 11:40 PM |
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K&R |
Skittles |
Dec-18-10 11:43 PM |
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Yes! Yes! Yes! |
drlindaphd |
Dec-19-10 04:37 PM |
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K&R |
Skittles |
Dec-18-10 11:43 PM |
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very well said! |
FirstLight |
Dec-18-10 11:49 PM |
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I am pretty sure that every RW Fundie Preacher in the USA |
truedelphi |
Dec-19-10 09:14 PM |
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Right wing men are very insecure with their masculinity that they fear that |
rhett o rick |
Dec-18-10 11:51 PM |
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Right wing men |
Rincewind |
Dec-19-10 12:01 AM |
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They are bullies. nm |
rhett o rick |
Dec-19-10 12:08 AM |
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You win the prize ! |
jaysunb |
Dec-19-10 12:35 AM |
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And I would venture to say some of them are extremely shaky about their manhood. |
calimary |
Dec-19-10 03:52 AM |
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I have come to the conclusion that McCain has always had |
MadMaddie |
Dec-19-10 01:25 PM |
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Yep, yep |
rury |
Dec-19-10 07:56 PM |
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Johnny Mac |
The Wizard |
Dec-19-10 09:26 PM |
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Yup nt |
Enthusiast |
Dec-19-10 04:46 PM |
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Spot on! |
B Calm |
Dec-19-10 05:59 AM |
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Big men with little dicks n/t |
formercia |
Dec-19-10 03:45 PM |
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I'm sorry to point this out but insecurity about gay males doesn't divide between political lines. |
justiceischeap |
Dec-19-10 06:58 AM |
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good points |
ruggerson |
Dec-19-10 12:36 PM |
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I have yet to hear any anti DADT argument that included lesbian issues. |
dixiegrrrrl |
Dec-20-10 03:44 PM |
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I think that you should include 'WHITE' right wing men - |
swilton |
Dec-19-10 07:58 PM |
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Right. |
progressoid |
Dec-18-10 11:53 PM |
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Insightful truth telling. |
TheKentuckian |
Dec-18-10 11:59 PM |
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if it matters, I have some thoughts... |
Volaris |
Dec-19-10 03:06 AM |
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My best friends are straight men |
teenagebambam |
Dec-19-10 05:51 AM |
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yup. i love it. |
seabeyond |
Dec-19-10 09:50 AM |
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I don't know who you are but I have been reading |
DeadEyeDyck |
Dec-19-10 09:42 PM |
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AHhahahahah don't worry, there are days |
Volaris |
Dec-20-10 12:00 PM |
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And here I thought it was because |
William769 |
Dec-19-10 12:01 AM |
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McCain and ilk projected their own homophobia on to our troops. |
David Zephyr |
Dec-19-10 12:02 AM |
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Well said. |
HCE SuiGeneris |
Dec-19-10 12:03 AM |
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I don't think anyone is going to accuse the Israeli army of being weak. |
Warren DeMontague |
Dec-19-10 12:07 AM |
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. . .Or the British armed forces. . . |
DinahMoeHum |
Dec-19-10 04:15 PM |
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Probably shakes the gay right wing men also. One step closer to being exposed. |
Kablooie |
Dec-19-10 12:14 AM |
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well, except for the log cabin republicans |
OhioBlue |
Dec-19-10 12:36 AM |
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Actually I think Republicans, gay and straight both, lead pretty miserable lives. |
Kablooie |
Dec-19-10 02:17 AM |
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Yup...sounds right |
Roselma |
Dec-19-10 12:32 AM |
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a number of them are in the closet and don't want it out in open |
2Design |
Dec-19-10 02:26 AM |
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But eventually their Rentboys kiss and tell! |
rury |
Dec-19-10 08:01 PM |
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kicked... |
bliss_eternal |
Dec-19-10 02:27 AM |
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back atcha |
ruggerson |
Dec-19-10 09:58 AM |
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Far more than the abstract knowledge for that aging marine... |
LooseWilly |
Dec-19-10 03:25 AM |
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Yes, this. n/t |
lumberjack_jeff |
Dec-19-10 10:04 AM |
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It's reflective of how widespread and mainstream support for repeal is, even the Senate agreed. |
Warren DeMontague |
Dec-19-10 03:58 AM |
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^ *ITA x 100, Warren* ^ |
Mimosa |
Dec-20-10 12:15 PM |
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K&R Thank you. |
terrya |
Dec-19-10 06:12 AM |
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Rec'd! Long time coming, and finally here! And to hell |
babylonsister |
Dec-19-10 06:48 AM |
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I think |
ruggerson |
Dec-19-10 10:01 AM |
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K&R n/t |
myrna minx |
Dec-19-10 07:08 AM |
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Very well put. K&R |
Richard Steele |
Dec-19-10 08:34 AM |
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It doesnt shake the truly staight |
DavidDvorkin |
Dec-19-10 10:22 AM |
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Well put.. A lot of "it" is about a threat to cultural dominance and myths that support it. |
DirkGently |
Dec-19-10 11:19 AM |
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The patriarchy got bitchslapped |
felix_numinous |
Dec-19-10 03:37 PM |
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They aren't too comfortable with women, either! "Women in subjection ... |
puebloknot |
Dec-19-10 03:51 PM |
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K&R |
DeSwiss |
Dec-19-10 04:26 PM |
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sexual repression maintains our traditional power structures |
certainot |
Dec-19-10 07:19 PM |
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you are so right on. |
stuntcat |
Dec-19-10 04:41 PM |
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you said a mouthful. some guys go into the military to |
demigoddess |
Dec-19-10 04:44 PM |
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We still have DADT in Country music. |
alfredo |
Dec-19-10 04:56 PM |
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And the color barrier too, for the most part. I can count the number of people of color in Country |
Erose999 |
Dec-20-10 02:03 PM |
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Aaron Neville. See the below video |
alfredo |
Dec-20-10 02:53 PM |
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Never underestimate the jealousy of perceived sexual satisfaction, either... |
PurityOfEssence |
Dec-19-10 05:00 PM |
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I can in no way speak against all marines |
CLANG |
Dec-19-10 05:08 PM |
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Colonel Frank Fitts... |
Technowitch |
Dec-19-10 05:12 PM |
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This needed to be said, |
PSzymeczek |
Dec-19-10 05:21 PM |
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DADT conversation |
HarborNut58 |
Dec-19-10 05:25 PM |
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I got nothing. n/t |
Smarmie Doofus |
Dec-19-10 05:34 PM |
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Well I'd say that |
bengalherder |
Dec-19-10 05:39 PM |
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if these men have so little control, they dont belong in the military. those that would crack |
seabeyond |
Dec-19-10 05:45 PM |
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"What do you say to this kind of reasoning?" |
DeSwiss |
Dec-19-10 08:53 PM |
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Some of them like cock and are afraid of their own desires & feelings |
Cronus Protagonist |
Dec-19-10 05:43 PM |
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i think another argument could be using their dick to control or have power over women.... |
seabeyond |
Dec-19-10 05:47 PM |
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Death of DADT |
Scottybeamer70 |
Dec-19-10 06:25 PM |
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Well done. K&R |
nolabear |
Dec-19-10 06:28 PM |
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I just wish this civil rights victory wasn't so WAR-related. nt |
valerief |
Dec-19-10 06:48 PM |
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The military is one of the last few places |
customerserviceguy |
Dec-19-10 07:47 PM |
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don't forget all the G & Ls who fougnt in WW2 and every other war |
Swagman |
Dec-19-10 06:59 PM |
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Absolutely right |
rury |
Dec-19-10 08:10 PM |
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+1 Rec |
Anakin Skywalker |
Dec-19-10 07:07 PM |
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A very eloquent post. |
BrklynLiberal |
Dec-19-10 07:39 PM |
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Many people confuse nudity with sex |
customerserviceguy |
Dec-19-10 07:45 PM |
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What you say is very true. However, so much of where we are |
truedelphi |
Dec-19-10 07:52 PM |
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There are many implications. This is extremely powerful and important |
Kurovski |
Dec-19-10 08:02 PM |
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That's good! n/t |
orbitalman |
Dec-19-10 08:32 PM |
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Shout it out and can I get a YEEHAAAA as well? |
Guilded Lilly |
Dec-19-10 08:38 PM |
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DADT repeal undermines the sex-negative environment where the god virus thrives. |
backscatter712 |
Dec-19-10 08:40 PM |
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OT, but love Darrell Ray |
MountainLaurel |
Dec-20-10 03:38 PM |
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K&R n/t |
Tripod |
Dec-19-10 09:04 PM |
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Hear, hear! n/t |
Shrader |
Dec-19-10 09:06 PM |
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Kick and happy to provide the 170th Rec |
stevenleser |
Dec-19-10 09:24 PM |
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Pretty good insight. |
Jester Messiah |
Dec-19-10 09:49 PM |
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yup.....well said and a .... |
madrchsod |
Dec-19-10 09:58 PM |
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We are ordered to worship the warrior/hero killer |
salinen |
Dec-19-10 10:31 PM |
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The right is insecure |
zigzagzed |
Dec-19-10 10:33 PM |
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Great post |
Safetykitten |
Dec-19-10 10:35 PM |
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Homophobia is to a large extent derived from misogyny. |
Odin2005 |
Dec-19-10 10:53 PM |
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I respectfully disagree |
jimlup |
Dec-19-10 11:05 PM |
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why is it these discussions always come down to genitalia? |
comtec |
Dec-20-10 09:31 AM |
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Penis, Penis, Penis, Penis, Penis, Penis, Penis, Penis, Penis, Penis, Penis, Penis, |
DainBramaged |
Dec-20-10 09:36 AM |
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at least use some variation |
comtec |
Dec-20-10 09:49 AM |
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Penis penis bo benis, banana nana fo fenis, me mi mo menis, PENIS! n/t |
QC |
Dec-20-10 12:19 PM |
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XD |
comtec |
Dec-20-10 01:08 PM |
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Com, you are one of the 'good guys', lighten up. |
DainBramaged |
Dec-20-10 12:36 PM |
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K&R, and that myth should have been debunked long ago. |
NoGOPZone |
Dec-20-10 09:47 AM |
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Who says them thar gays can't fight? |
sudopod |
Dec-20-10 11:07 AM |
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What an oversimplification of the entire issue... |
HardWorkingDem |
Dec-20-10 01:45 PM |
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So lesbians don't serve either? What about a shout out for the gay ladies? |
jtown1123 |
Dec-20-10 02:09 PM |
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When I see Boehner crying I know that all men are not macho. . . |
B Calm |
Dec-20-10 03:45 PM |
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Too late to give this the R is deserves, but here's an enthusiastic kick. |
David Zephyr |
Dec-20-10 03:49 PM |
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Error: you can only recommend threads which were started in the past 24 hours...great post!!!! |
FLAprogressive |
Dec-20-10 03:52 PM |
#108 |
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