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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 11:40 PM
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The reason the death of DADT shakes straight, rightwing men to their very core
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is because it destroys the myth that they have long perpetuated about gay men: that they are all lisping, immoral, weak and cowardly. This myth and other convenient stereotypes have long served as their bulwark against attacks on their heterosexist, patriarchal grip on power in this country.

Psychologically, the destruction of this myth has long term, profound consequences for the hierarchy of dominance in this nation of ours - all of them healthy and all of them good for both women in general and gay men specifically.

Today is far more powerful than if 15% of the NFL all came out of the closet at once. Or if all the gay movie stars suddenly had the urge to be publicly honest about who they are.

It's far more powerful because that aging, rightwing marine sitting on his couch in southern Indiana never was a football player or a movie star.

But he was a marine once and that identification has been the single, most powerful tool to enable him to self justify his rank prejudices and aggressive opposition to positive, generational growth and change.

The destruction of Don't Ask Don't Tell takes the mask off. And what is left is the emperor with no clothes, clutching his Bud light and his remote control, suddenly very, very angry, very insecure and very unsure about his position of dominance in a new America.
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  -The reason the death of DADT shakes straight, rightwing men to their very core ruggerson  Dec-18-10 11:40 PM   #0 
  - K&R  Skittles   Dec-18-10 11:43 PM   #1 
  - Yes! Yes! Yes!  drlindaphd   Dec-19-10 04:37 PM   #43 
  - K&R  Skittles   Dec-18-10 11:43 PM   #2 
  - very well said!  FirstLight   Dec-18-10 11:49 PM   #3 
  - I am pretty sure that every RW Fundie Preacher in the USA  truedelphi   Dec-19-10 09:14 PM   #79 
  - Right wing men are very insecure with their masculinity that they fear that  rhett o rick   Dec-18-10 11:51 PM   #4 
  - Right wing men  Rincewind   Dec-19-10 12:01 AM   # 
  - They are bullies. nm  rhett o rick   Dec-19-10 12:08 AM   #11 
  - You win the prize !  jaysunb   Dec-19-10 12:35 AM   #14 
  - And I would venture to say some of them are extremely shaky about their manhood.  calimary   Dec-19-10 03:52 AM   #21 
  - I have come to the conclusion that McCain has always had  MadMaddie   Dec-19-10 01:25 PM   #37 
  - Yep, yep  rury   Dec-19-10 07:56 PM   #68 
  - Johnny Mac  The Wizard   Dec-19-10 09:26 PM   #81 
  - Yup nt  Enthusiast   Dec-19-10 04:46 PM   #46 
  - Spot on!  B Calm   Dec-19-10 05:59 AM   #24 
  - Big men with little dicks n/t  formercia   Dec-19-10 03:45 PM   #39 
  - I'm sorry to point this out but insecurity about gay males doesn't divide between political lines.  justiceischeap   Dec-19-10 06:58 AM   #27 
  - good points  ruggerson   Dec-19-10 12:36 PM   #36 
  - I have yet to hear any anti DADT argument that included lesbian issues.  dixiegrrrrl   Dec-20-10 03:44 PM   #105 
  - I think that you should include 'WHITE' right wing men -  swilton   Dec-19-10 07:58 PM   #69 
  - Right.  progressoid   Dec-18-10 11:53 PM   #5 
  - Insightful truth telling.  TheKentuckian   Dec-18-10 11:59 PM   #6 
  - if it matters, I have some thoughts...  Volaris   Dec-19-10 03:06 AM   #19 
     - My best friends are straight men  teenagebambam   Dec-19-10 05:51 AM   #23 
     - yup. i love it.  seabeyond   Dec-19-10 09:50 AM   #30 
     - I don't know who you are but I have been reading  DeadEyeDyck   Dec-19-10 09:42 PM   #82 
        - AHhahahahah don't worry, there are days  Volaris   Dec-20-10 12:00 PM   #95 
  - And here I thought it was because  William769   Dec-19-10 12:01 AM   #7 
  - McCain and ilk projected their own homophobia on to our troops.  David Zephyr   Dec-19-10 12:02 AM   #8 
  - Well said.  HCE SuiGeneris   Dec-19-10 12:03 AM   #9 
  - I don't think anyone is going to accuse the Israeli army of being weak.  Warren DeMontague   Dec-19-10 12:07 AM   #10 
  - . . .Or the British armed forces. . .  DinahMoeHum   Dec-19-10 04:15 PM   #41 
  - Probably shakes the gay right wing men also. One step closer to being exposed.  Kablooie   Dec-19-10 12:14 AM   #12 
  - well, except for the log cabin republicans  OhioBlue   Dec-19-10 12:36 AM   #15 
     - Actually I think Republicans, gay and straight both, lead pretty miserable lives.  Kablooie   Dec-19-10 02:17 AM   #16 
  - Yup...sounds right  Roselma   Dec-19-10 12:32 AM   #13 
  - a number of them are in the closet and don't want it out in open  2Design   Dec-19-10 02:26 AM   #17 
  - But eventually their Rentboys kiss and tell!  rury   Dec-19-10 08:01 PM   #70 
  - kicked...  bliss_eternal   Dec-19-10 02:27 AM   #18 
  - back atcha  ruggerson   Dec-19-10 09:58 AM   #31 
  - Far more than the abstract knowledge for that aging marine...  LooseWilly   Dec-19-10 03:25 AM   #20 
  - Yes, this. n/t  lumberjack_jeff   Dec-19-10 10:04 AM   #33 
  - It's reflective of how widespread and mainstream support for repeal is, even the Senate agreed.  Warren DeMontague   Dec-19-10 03:58 AM   #22 
  - ^ *ITA x 100, Warren* ^  Mimosa   Dec-20-10 12:15 PM   #96 
  - K&R Thank you.  terrya   Dec-19-10 06:12 AM   #25 
  - Rec'd! Long time coming, and finally here! And to hell  babylonsister   Dec-19-10 06:48 AM   #26 
  - I think  ruggerson   Dec-19-10 10:01 AM   #32 
  - K&R n/t  myrna minx   Dec-19-10 07:08 AM   #28 
  - Very well put. K&R  Richard Steele   Dec-19-10 08:34 AM   #29 
  - It doesnt shake the truly staight  DavidDvorkin   Dec-19-10 10:22 AM   #34 
  - Well put.. A lot of "it" is about a threat to cultural dominance and myths that support it.  DirkGently   Dec-19-10 11:19 AM   #35 
  - The patriarchy got bitchslapped  felix_numinous   Dec-19-10 03:37 PM   #38 
  - They aren't too comfortable with women, either! "Women in subjection ...  puebloknot   Dec-19-10 03:51 PM   #40 
  - K&R  DeSwiss   Dec-19-10 04:26 PM   #42 
  - sexual repression maintains our traditional power structures  certainot   Dec-19-10 07:19 PM   #63 
  - you are so right on.  stuntcat   Dec-19-10 04:41 PM   #44 
  - you said a mouthful. some guys go into the military to  demigoddess   Dec-19-10 04:44 PM   #45 
  - We still have DADT in Country music.  alfredo   Dec-19-10 04:56 PM   #47 
  - And the color barrier too, for the most part. I can count the number of people of color in Country  Erose999   Dec-20-10 02:03 PM   #101 
     - Aaron Neville. See the below video  alfredo   Dec-20-10 02:53 PM   #103 
  - Never underestimate the jealousy of perceived sexual satisfaction, either...  PurityOfEssence   Dec-19-10 05:00 PM   #48 
  - I can in no way speak against all marines  CLANG   Dec-19-10 05:08 PM   #49 
  - Colonel Frank Fitts...  Technowitch   Dec-19-10 05:12 PM   #50 
  - This needed to be said,  PSzymeczek   Dec-19-10 05:21 PM   #51 
  - DADT conversation  HarborNut58   Dec-19-10 05:25 PM   #52 
  - I got nothing. n/t  Smarmie Doofus   Dec-19-10 05:34 PM   #53 
  - Well I'd say that  bengalherder   Dec-19-10 05:39 PM   #54 
  - if these men have so little control, they dont belong in the military. those that would crack  seabeyond   Dec-19-10 05:45 PM   #56 
  - "What do you say to this kind of reasoning?"  DeSwiss   Dec-19-10 08:53 PM   #76 
  - Some of them like cock and are afraid of their own desires & feelings  Cronus Protagonist   Dec-19-10 05:43 PM   #55 
  - i think another argument could be using their dick to control or have power over women....  seabeyond   Dec-19-10 05:47 PM   #57 
  - Death of DADT  Scottybeamer70   Dec-19-10 06:25 PM   #58 
  - Well done. K&R  nolabear   Dec-19-10 06:28 PM   #59 
  - I just wish this civil rights victory wasn't so WAR-related. nt  valerief   Dec-19-10 06:48 PM   #60 
  - The military is one of the last few places  customerserviceguy   Dec-19-10 07:47 PM   #66 
  - don't forget all the G & Ls who fougnt in WW2 and every other war  Swagman   Dec-19-10 06:59 PM   #61 
  - Absolutely right  rury   Dec-19-10 08:10 PM   #72 
  - +1 Rec  Anakin Skywalker   Dec-19-10 07:07 PM   #62 
  - A very eloquent post.  BrklynLiberal   Dec-19-10 07:39 PM   #64 
  - Many people confuse nudity with sex  customerserviceguy   Dec-19-10 07:45 PM   #65 
  - What you say is very true. However, so much of where we are  truedelphi   Dec-19-10 07:52 PM   #67 
  - There are many implications. This is extremely powerful and important  Kurovski   Dec-19-10 08:02 PM   #71 
  - That's good! n/t  orbitalman   Dec-19-10 08:32 PM   #73 
  - Shout it out and can I get a YEEHAAAA as well?  Guilded Lilly   Dec-19-10 08:38 PM   #74 
  - DADT repeal undermines the sex-negative environment where the god virus thrives.  backscatter712   Dec-19-10 08:40 PM   #75 
  - OT, but love Darrell Ray  MountainLaurel   Dec-20-10 03:38 PM   #104 
  - K&R n/t  Tripod   Dec-19-10 09:04 PM   #77 
  - Hear, hear! n/t  Shrader   Dec-19-10 09:06 PM   #78 
  - Kick and happy to provide the 170th Rec  stevenleser   Dec-19-10 09:24 PM   #80 
  - Pretty good insight.  Jester Messiah   Dec-19-10 09:49 PM   #83 
  - yup.....well said and a ....  madrchsod   Dec-19-10 09:58 PM   #84 
  - We are ordered to worship the warrior/hero killer  salinen   Dec-19-10 10:31 PM   #85 
  - The right is insecure  zigzagzed   Dec-19-10 10:33 PM   #86 
  - Great post  Safetykitten   Dec-19-10 10:35 PM   #87 
  - Homophobia is to a large extent derived from misogyny.  Odin2005   Dec-19-10 10:53 PM   #88 
  - I respectfully disagree  jimlup   Dec-19-10 11:05 PM   #89 
  - why is it these discussions always come down to genitalia?  comtec   Dec-20-10 09:31 AM   #90 
  - Penis, Penis, Penis, Penis, Penis, Penis, Penis, Penis, Penis, Penis, Penis, Penis,  DainBramaged   Dec-20-10 09:36 AM   #91 
     - at least use some variation  comtec   Dec-20-10 09:49 AM   #93 
        - Penis penis bo benis, banana nana fo fenis, me mi mo menis, PENIS! n/t  QC   Dec-20-10 12:19 PM   #97 
        - XD  comtec   Dec-20-10 01:08 PM   #99 
        - Com, you are one of the 'good guys', lighten up.  DainBramaged   Dec-20-10 12:36 PM   #98 
  - K&R, and that myth should have been debunked long ago.  NoGOPZone   Dec-20-10 09:47 AM   #92 
  - Who says them thar gays can't fight?  sudopod   Dec-20-10 11:07 AM   #94 
  - What an oversimplification of the entire issue...  HardWorkingDem   Dec-20-10 01:45 PM   #100 
  - So lesbians don't serve either? What about a shout out for the gay ladies?  jtown1123   Dec-20-10 02:09 PM   #102 
  - When I see Boehner crying I know that all men are not macho. . .  B Calm   Dec-20-10 03:45 PM   #106 
  - Too late to give this the R is deserves, but here's an enthusiastic kick.  David Zephyr   Dec-20-10 03:49 PM   #107 
  - Error: you can only recommend threads which were started in the past 24 hours...great post!!!!  FLAprogressive   Dec-20-10 03:52 PM   #108 

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