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Sat Feb-05-11 12:45 PM
Response to Reply #31 |
| 41. Torturing 1 or hundreds is wrong. The scale does not matter. |
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Edited on Sat Feb-05-11 12:47 PM by neverforget
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| -It's "unlikely that CIA renditions under Obama...even remotely on the scale of...Bush admin." |
ProSense |
Feb-05-11 11:56 AM |
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I feel so much better. |
aquart |
Feb-05-11 11:57 AM |
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LOL. |
mmonk |
Feb-05-11 11:57 AM |
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Well, |
ProSense |
Feb-05-11 11:58 AM |
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The article you link is based on speculation, not facts. |
tekisui |
Feb-05-11 12:03 PM |
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"a Canadian citizen who was taken to Syria in 2002" |
ProSense |
Feb-05-11 12:07 PM |
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Why not? |
treestar |
Feb-05-11 12:03 PM |
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1 is still too many |
neverforget |
Feb-05-11 11:58 AM |
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Not if you ask the other 99. nt |
Robb |
Feb-05-11 12:27 PM |
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Wow |
neverforget |
Feb-05-11 12:28 PM |
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Put another way |
Robb |
Feb-05-11 12:34 PM |
#31 |
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Torturing 1 or hundreds is wrong. The scale does not matter. |
neverforget |
Feb-05-11 12:45 PM |
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True. |
Robb |
Feb-05-11 12:48 PM |
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Obama - less evil than Bush |
DBoon |
Feb-05-11 11:59 AM |
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" if they"re being conducted " He's likely |
ProSense |
Feb-05-11 12:01 PM |
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keyword: "unlikely" |
ixion |
Feb-05-11 12:00 PM |
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Yes, the ACLU |
ProSense |
Feb-05-11 12:02 PM |
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by nature, it is hard to get good numbers on secret kidnappings |
DBoon |
Feb-05-11 12:13 PM |
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so you deny the word 'unlikely' is speculative? |
ixion |
Feb-05-11 12:45 PM |
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Scale has nothing to do with it. |
hobbit709 |
Feb-05-11 12:05 PM |
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Yesterday, he was no different from Bush, now |
ProSense |
Feb-05-11 12:08 PM |
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Here's one, anyway |
grahamhgreen |
Feb-05-11 12:23 PM |
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Hmmm? |
ProSense |
Feb-05-11 12:32 PM |
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Thank you for the |
truedelphi |
Feb-05-11 03:45 PM |
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I feel so much better now |
northernlights |
Feb-05-11 12:11 PM |
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Yeah, stupid ACLU. n/t |
ProSense |
Feb-05-11 12:14 PM |
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it was Holder's quote. Did you even bother to read your own post? |
northernlights |
Feb-05-11 12:26 PM |
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I think Holder works for Obama |
Angry Dragon |
Feb-05-11 12:34 PM |
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Deleted message |
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Feb-05-11 12:41 PM |
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my point being it was not the ACLU's quote, as some would claim |
northernlights |
Feb-05-11 01:06 PM |
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Gross, sickening and PATHETIC. |
chimpymustgo |
Feb-05-11 12:13 PM |
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What is the Obama admin. doing about the Bush admin. torture program? Not a damn thing. |
JanBrady |
Feb-05-11 12:19 PM |
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"By refusing to prosecute or even investigate its criminal predecessor, " |
ProSense |
Feb-05-11 12:20 PM |
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Brad Manning turned to Wikileaks in part because he was processing |
EFerrari |
Feb-05-11 12:26 PM |
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Executive order ended Bush torture policies on Obama's first day in office. |
Radical Activist |
Feb-05-11 12:31 PM |
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And I'm supposed to feel good about that? |
Raksha |
Feb-05-11 12:25 PM |
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From 2009 |
mmonk |
Feb-05-11 12:25 PM |
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Like I said |
ProSense |
Feb-05-11 12:37 PM |
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Why is the prison in Bagram still operational? |
mmonk |
Feb-05-11 12:40 PM |
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So the guy was brought to the US for a public trial... |
Radical Activist |
Feb-05-11 12:44 PM |
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After a forced confession at Bagram. |
mmonk |
Feb-05-11 12:45 PM |
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wrong place |
mmonk |
Feb-05-11 12:47 PM |
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Which is the area he's from. So that wasn't extraordinary rendition. |
Radical Activist |
Feb-05-11 12:52 PM |
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Because I'm a liar and a fraud. |
mmonk |
Feb-05-11 12:56 PM |
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So I guess your point in posting the link |
Radical Activist |
Feb-05-11 01:03 PM |
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Blindfold, hood, and earphones are considered torture in itself. |
Fuddnik |
Feb-05-11 02:30 PM |
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I read the Obama continued Bush-era rendition policies. |
Radical Activist |
Feb-05-11 12:28 PM |
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Obama's Pentagon processed Iraqi prisoners out to the Iraqis |
EFerrari |
Feb-05-11 12:30 PM |
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Has Obama changed Bush's rendition policies? |
Radical Activist |
Feb-05-11 12:35 PM |
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Oh please.... |
Oilwellian |
Feb-05-11 12:36 PM |
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+1 |
leftstreet |
Feb-05-11 12:43 PM |
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Read the text and links in the OP. |
Radical Activist |
Feb-05-11 12:45 PM |
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Riigghht. The CIA and State Department have proven themselves ever so trustworthy. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Feb-05-11 12:40 PM |
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You don't have to trust them |
ProSense |
Feb-05-11 12:43 PM |
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I don't. But, Obama obviously does. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Feb-05-11 12:49 PM |
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Deleted sub-thread |
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Feb-05-11 12:49 PM |
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Why kidnap people and send them to third countries that torture then? |
mmonk |
Feb-05-11 12:53 PM |
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Here |
ProSense |
Feb-05-11 12:58 PM |
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arg by link |
Warren Stupidity |
Feb-05-11 01:06 PM |
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Another assessment: |
mmonk |
Feb-05-11 01:12 PM |
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Have yet to see any proof of gov sanctioned torture happening since Bush |
guruoo |
Feb-05-11 12:59 PM |
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So the point of this OP is "a little torture is ok"? |
Warren Stupidity |
Feb-05-11 01:01 PM |
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No, that's not the point, and the OP doesn't remotely suggest that. n/t |
ProSense |
Feb-05-11 01:19 PM |
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Yeah that does in fact appear to be the point of the OP. |
Warren Stupidity |
Feb-05-11 01:37 PM |
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No, it isn't. n/t |
ProSense |
Feb-05-11 01:41 PM |
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yeah it is. nt. |
Warren Stupidity |
Feb-05-11 02:33 PM |
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Because now we're all supposed to support Suleiman in Egypt and |
alsame |
Feb-05-11 02:52 PM |
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Torture is still TORTURE isn't it? |
Desertrose |
Feb-05-11 01:09 PM |
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"Thought Obama was gonna close Gitmo & stop the torture/renditions..." |
ProSense |
Feb-05-11 01:18 PM |
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That may be true but I do not want to be a part of any of it. It just cheapens |
jwirr |
Feb-05-11 01:23 PM |
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And no one |
ProSense |
Feb-05-11 01:27 PM |
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No level too low. n/t |
Catherina |
Feb-05-11 01:25 PM |
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Yeah, facts are the lowest. n/t |
ProSense |
Feb-05-11 01:27 PM |
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Oh well as long as it's only a small number, |
Autumn |
Feb-05-11 01:56 PM |
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"And I'm sure since Obama is a 'democrat' it's a much nicer rendition." |
ProSense |
Feb-05-11 02:02 PM |
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keep repeating "rendition is not torture" |
Warren Stupidity |
Feb-05-11 02:32 PM |
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Can you |
ProSense |
Feb-05-11 02:40 PM |
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The policy of opposing torture means diddly squat |
Autumn |
Feb-05-11 04:20 PM |
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" As far as I am concerned rendition is torture |
ProSense |
Feb-05-11 04:24 PM |
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"The specific recommendations themselves are classified, however. " Such BULLSHIT! |
Agony |
Feb-05-11 02:43 PM |
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"This is cynical policy meant only to soften up the american people to continue to accept torture" |
ProSense |
Feb-05-11 02:54 PM |
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Yes, ridiculous that where the rubber meets the road the policy is SECRET! |
Agony |
Feb-05-11 03:39 PM |
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Right, |
ProSense |
Feb-05-11 03:49 PM |
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