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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-11 12:25 PM
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21. And I'm supposed to feel good about that?
Why should there be ANY CIA renditions under Obama?
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  -It's "unlikely that CIA renditions under Obama...even remotely on the scale of...Bush admin." ProSense  Feb-05-11 11:56 AM   #0 
  - I feel so much better.  aquart   Feb-05-11 11:57 AM   #1 
  - LOL.  mmonk   Feb-05-11 11:57 AM   #2 
  - Well,  ProSense   Feb-05-11 11:58 AM   #3 
  - The article you link is based on speculation, not facts.  tekisui   Feb-05-11 12:03 PM   #9 
     - "a Canadian citizen who was taken to Syria in 2002"  ProSense   Feb-05-11 12:07 PM   #12 
  - Why not?  treestar   Feb-05-11 12:03 PM   #10 
  - 1 is still too many  neverforget   Feb-05-11 11:58 AM   #4 
  - Not if you ask the other 99. nt  Robb   Feb-05-11 12:27 PM   #24 
     - Wow  neverforget   Feb-05-11 12:28 PM   #26 
        - Put another way  Robb   Feb-05-11 12:34 PM   #31 
           - Torturing 1 or hundreds is wrong. The scale does not matter.  neverforget   Feb-05-11 12:45 PM   #41 
              - True.  Robb   Feb-05-11 12:48 PM   #46 
  - Obama - less evil than Bush  DBoon   Feb-05-11 11:59 AM   #5 
  - " if they"re being conducted " He's likely  ProSense   Feb-05-11 12:01 PM   #7 
  - keyword: "unlikely"  ixion   Feb-05-11 12:00 PM   #6 
  - Yes, the ACLU  ProSense   Feb-05-11 12:02 PM   #8 
     - by nature, it is hard to get good numbers on secret kidnappings  DBoon   Feb-05-11 12:13 PM   #15 
     - so you deny the word 'unlikely' is speculative?  ixion   Feb-05-11 12:45 PM   #43 
  - Scale has nothing to do with it.  hobbit709   Feb-05-11 12:05 PM   #11 
  - Yesterday, he was no different from Bush, now  ProSense   Feb-05-11 12:08 PM   #13 
  - Here's one, anyway  grahamhgreen   Feb-05-11 12:23 PM   #20 
     - Hmmm?  ProSense   Feb-05-11 12:32 PM   #29 
  - Thank you for the  truedelphi   Feb-05-11 03:45 PM   #78 
  - I feel so much better now  northernlights   Feb-05-11 12:11 PM   #14 
  - Yeah, stupid ACLU. n/t  ProSense   Feb-05-11 12:14 PM   #17 
     - it was Holder's quote. Did you even bother to read your own post?  northernlights   Feb-05-11 12:26 PM   # 
        - I think Holder works for Obama  Angry Dragon   Feb-05-11 12:34 PM   #30 
           - Deleted message  Name removed   Feb-05-11 12:41 PM   #37 
           - my point being it was not the ACLU's quote, as some would claim  northernlights   Feb-05-11 01:06 PM   #57 
  - Gross, sickening and PATHETIC.  chimpymustgo   Feb-05-11 12:13 PM   #16 
  - What is the Obama admin. doing about the Bush admin. torture program? Not a damn thing.  JanBrady   Feb-05-11 12:19 PM   #18 
  - "By refusing to prosecute or even investigate its criminal predecessor, "  ProSense   Feb-05-11 12:20 PM   #19 
  - Brad Manning turned to Wikileaks in part because he was processing  EFerrari   Feb-05-11 12:26 PM   #23 
  - Executive order ended Bush torture policies on Obama's first day in office.  Radical Activist   Feb-05-11 12:31 PM   #28 
  - And I'm supposed to feel good about that?  Raksha   Feb-05-11 12:25 PM   #21 
  - From 2009  mmonk   Feb-05-11 12:25 PM   #22 
  - Like I said  ProSense   Feb-05-11 12:37 PM   #34 
  - Why is the prison in Bagram still operational?  mmonk   Feb-05-11 12:40 PM   #36 
  - So the guy was brought to the US for a public trial...  Radical Activist   Feb-05-11 12:44 PM   #40 
  - After a forced confession at Bagram.  mmonk   Feb-05-11 12:45 PM   #44 
     - wrong place  mmonk   Feb-05-11 12:47 PM   #45 
     - Which is the area he's from. So that wasn't extraordinary rendition.  Radical Activist   Feb-05-11 12:52 PM   #49 
        - Because I'm a liar and a fraud.  mmonk   Feb-05-11 12:56 PM   #51 
           - So I guess your point in posting the link  Radical Activist   Feb-05-11 01:03 PM   #55 
  - Blindfold, hood, and earphones are considered torture in itself.  Fuddnik   Feb-05-11 02:30 PM   #70 
  - I read the Obama continued Bush-era rendition policies.  Radical Activist   Feb-05-11 12:28 PM   #25 
  - Obama's Pentagon processed Iraqi prisoners out to the Iraqis  EFerrari   Feb-05-11 12:30 PM   #27 
  - Has Obama changed Bush's rendition policies?  Radical Activist   Feb-05-11 12:35 PM   #32 
  - Oh please....  Oilwellian   Feb-05-11 12:36 PM   #33 
     - +1  leftstreet   Feb-05-11 12:43 PM   #38 
     - Read the text and links in the OP.  Radical Activist   Feb-05-11 12:45 PM   #42 
  - Riigghht. The CIA and State Department have proven themselves ever so trustworthy.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Feb-05-11 12:40 PM   #35 
  - You don't have to trust them  ProSense   Feb-05-11 12:43 PM   #39 
     - I don't. But, Obama obviously does.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Feb-05-11 12:49 PM   #47 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Feb-05-11 12:49 PM   #48 
  - Why kidnap people and send them to third countries that torture then?  mmonk   Feb-05-11 12:53 PM   #50 
  - Here  ProSense   Feb-05-11 12:58 PM   #52 
     - arg by link  Warren Stupidity   Feb-05-11 01:06 PM   #56 
     - Another assessment:  mmonk   Feb-05-11 01:12 PM   #59 
  - Have yet to see any proof of gov sanctioned torture happening since Bush  guruoo   Feb-05-11 12:59 PM   #53 
  - So the point of this OP is "a little torture is ok"?  Warren Stupidity   Feb-05-11 01:01 PM   #54 
  - No, that's not the point, and the OP doesn't remotely suggest that. n/t  ProSense   Feb-05-11 01:19 PM   #61 
     - Yeah that does in fact appear to be the point of the OP.  Warren Stupidity   Feb-05-11 01:37 PM   #66 
        - No, it isn't. n/t  ProSense   Feb-05-11 01:41 PM   #67 
           - yeah it is. nt.  Warren Stupidity   Feb-05-11 02:33 PM   #72 
              - Because now we're all supposed to support Suleiman in Egypt and  alsame   Feb-05-11 02:52 PM   #75 
  - Torture is still TORTURE isn't it?  Desertrose   Feb-05-11 01:09 PM   #58 
  - "Thought Obama was gonna close Gitmo & stop the torture/renditions..."  ProSense   Feb-05-11 01:18 PM   #60 
  - That may be true but I do not want to be a part of any of it. It just cheapens  jwirr   Feb-05-11 01:23 PM   #62 
  - And no one  ProSense   Feb-05-11 01:27 PM   #64 
  - No level too low. n/t  Catherina   Feb-05-11 01:25 PM   #63 
  - Yeah, facts are the lowest. n/t  ProSense   Feb-05-11 01:27 PM   #65 
  - Oh well as long as it's only a small number,  Autumn   Feb-05-11 01:56 PM   #68 
  - "And I'm sure since Obama is a 'democrat' it's a much nicer rendition."  ProSense   Feb-05-11 02:02 PM   #69 
     - keep repeating "rendition is not torture"  Warren Stupidity   Feb-05-11 02:32 PM   #71 
     - Can you  ProSense   Feb-05-11 02:40 PM   #73 
     - The policy of opposing torture means diddly squat  Autumn   Feb-05-11 04:20 PM   #80 
        - " As far as I am concerned rendition is torture  ProSense   Feb-05-11 04:24 PM   #81 
  - "The specific recommendations themselves are classified, however. " Such BULLSHIT!  Agony   Feb-05-11 02:43 PM   #74 
     - "This is cynical policy meant only to soften up the american people to continue to accept torture"  ProSense   Feb-05-11 02:54 PM   #76 
        - Yes, ridiculous that where the rubber meets the road the policy is SECRET!  Agony   Feb-05-11 03:39 PM   #77 
           - Right,  ProSense   Feb-05-11 03:49 PM   #79 
 

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