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WiffenPoof Donating Member (676 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-10 03:06 PM
Response to Reply #51
59. I Don't really Know...
...It isn't the country that I was raised in, that's for sure.

Wasn't it Teddy Roosevelt that stated it was our patriotic duty to criticize our elected officials and our government when it deserved it? In fact, didn't he say that it was treasonous not to?

Yet, we have arrived at a point where when we cricize the government we are called "America Haters" and "Blame America First." I hold to the idea that we are actually MORE patriotic than those who think we are traitors.

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  -I was going to ask if we can start saying nice things about President Obama again Mortos  Dec-18-10 02:39 PM   #0 
  - +1 nt  Codeine   Dec-18-10 02:39 PM   #1 
  - Yeah but if isn't going to enforce what was just passed than what good is it?  redirish28   Dec-18-10 02:41 PM   #2 
  - It will be enforced.  originalpckelly   Dec-18-10 02:42 PM   #6 
  - A soldier's benefits should go to whomever he/she designates as beneficiary  pacalo   Dec-18-10 03:19 PM   #70 
  - That is bullshit  Mortos   Dec-18-10 02:43 PM   #7 
  - Stop spreading your disinformation.  Codeine   Dec-18-10 02:44 PM   #8 
  - I have no Agenda!  redirish28   Dec-18-10 02:48 PM   #20 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-18-10 02:50 PM   #24 
     - Ooops. Sorry, I thought it was Julian Assange worship. My bad. nt.  bluestate10   Dec-18-10 03:05 PM   #57 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-18-10 02:45 PM   #10 
  - If he wasn't going to enforce it, he wouldn't be coming out and publically hailing it as...  phleshdef   Dec-18-10 02:45 PM   #11 
  - This is just like the "Iraq war is not really over" BS  treestar   Dec-18-10 02:47 PM   #17 
     - They want instant gratification and the world doesn't work that way.  phleshdef   Dec-18-10 02:49 PM   #22 
  - You sure don't require much to get excited  treestar   Dec-18-10 02:46 PM   #15 
  - When you have friends who are suffering because of who they are than it does make one fight for them  redirish28   Dec-18-10 02:52 PM   #31 
     - You were demonstrably wrong.  Codeine   Dec-18-10 02:54 PM   #37 
     - Whatever! Take a look see at this!  redirish28   Dec-18-10 02:57 PM   # 
        - And it will be repealed.  Codeine   Dec-18-10 03:00 PM   #49 
           - BUT ON OTHERS THREADS IT HAS BEEN INDICATED HE IS GOING TO GO SLOWLY  redirish28   Dec-18-10 03:02 PM   #53 
              - The law requires sixty days.  Codeine   Dec-18-10 03:04 PM   #56 
                 - EXPLAIN THIS ARTICLE  redirish28   Dec-18-10 03:08 PM   #63 
                    - Nobody has been discharged under DADT in months.  Codeine   Dec-18-10 03:12 PM   #66 
                       - Plenty of people are still in the process of being discharged.  LooseWilly   Dec-19-10 02:30 AM   #104 
                          - This is the information I have.  Codeine   Dec-19-10 06:45 AM   #106 
     - No, you are just easy to get onto the hysteria bandwagon  treestar   Dec-18-10 05:57 PM   #95 
  - The Department of Defense released policy changes last month  bluestate10   Dec-18-10 03:03 PM   #54 
  - There have NOT been any discharges under DADT since at least October 21st  Tx4obama   Dec-18-10 03:06 PM   #58 
  - The people who said he was not going to repeal it can say  LoZoccolo   Dec-18-10 02:41 PM   #3 
  - If he had done it by executive order, then the next president in could just as easily reinstitute  tblue37   Dec-18-10 02:55 PM   #40 
  - The President does not have the EO power that allowed Truman to  bluestate10   Dec-18-10 03:08 PM   #62 
     - I didn't know that. Thanks for the info. I was so accustomed to seeing  tblue37   Dec-18-10 03:16 PM   #69 
     - There is a BIG difference between the Truman and Obama situation because...  Tx4obama   Dec-18-10 05:27 PM   #87 
     - What does that mean? "EO on the level of... was taken away decades ago."  LooseWilly   Dec-19-10 02:43 AM   #105 
     - In other words, people want president Obama to be  LoZoccolo   Dec-19-10 10:15 AM   #110 
  - +1,000  malaise   Dec-19-10 07:42 AM   #108 
  - The Naysayers will never be happy  MadMaddie   Dec-18-10 02:42 PM   #4 
  - When something good comes out of Congress it's the President's accomplishment  Hello_Kitty   Dec-18-10 02:46 PM   #13 
     - No, they both get credit  treestar   Dec-18-10 02:49 PM   # 
     - No, your blind spot notwithstanding, there is a double standard on your side too.  Hello_Kitty   Dec-18-10 03:07 PM   #61 
     - I will kindly disagree with you  MadMaddie   Dec-18-10 02:49 PM   #21 
     - Look, we have a test case today. DADT repeal passed but DREAM failed.  Hello_Kitty   Dec-18-10 03:25 PM   #73 
        - Who stopped the Dream Act?  MadMaddie   Dec-18-10 03:38 PM   #75 
        - And cannot the same be said of DADT? eom  Hello_Kitty   Dec-18-10 03:47 PM   #76 
        - Well played!  Bluebear   Dec-18-10 05:30 PM   #88 
     - Obama would have been the one blamed if this failed. And you know it.  Aramchek   Dec-18-10 02:49 PM   #23 
     - Not by his loyalists. Y'all would be blaming Congress.  Hello_Kitty   Dec-18-10 03:03 PM   #55 
     - you're talking about a hypothetical. I'm talking about what actually happened.  Aramchek   Dec-18-10 03:53 PM   #78 
        - Okay, here's something that happened today. The DREAM Act failed.  Hello_Kitty   Dec-18-10 04:53 PM   #86 
           - Congress, since President Obama would have signed it.  treestar   Dec-18-10 05:55 PM   #94 
              - Thanks for proving my point, treestar. eom  Hello_Kitty   Dec-18-10 06:00 PM   #96 
                 - No, your point is that President Obama is to blame no matter what  treestar   Dec-18-10 06:05 PM   #98 
                    - No that's not my point. It's your strawman projection  Hello_Kitty   Dec-18-10 06:28 PM   #99 
     - Exactly. FCOL, they want it both ways, don't they?  treestar   Dec-18-10 05:54 PM   #93 
        - No, YOU want it both ways.  Hello_Kitty   Dec-19-10 02:23 AM   #103 
     - I've noticed that-- isn't it odd? n/t  Marr   Dec-18-10 11:16 PM   #101 
  - +1  bushisanidiot   Dec-18-10 02:42 PM   #5 
  - I love him MORE!nt  FLyellowdog   Dec-18-10 02:45 PM   #9 
  - Nuh Uh! Barack is my straight crush...back away from my man.  Mortos   Dec-18-10 02:50 PM   #27 
  - Some people are determined not to be happy  treestar   Dec-18-10 02:46 PM   #12 
  - I Have No Problem Congratulating The President On This Accomplishment  WillyT   Dec-18-10 02:46 PM   #14 
  - I give credit to the GLBT citizens, soldiers, and their allies  Lyric   Dec-18-10 02:47 PM   #16 
  - Very well said!  Safetykitten   Dec-18-10 02:48 PM   #18 
  - OMG. So when you were NOT getting it, then it was because all of  treestar   Dec-18-10 02:50 PM   #26 
  - Is it really that hard to understand?  Marr   Dec-19-10 07:38 AM   #107 
  - Even with all that effort, it never would have happened without the right person in the White House.  Aramchek   Dec-18-10 02:52 PM   #33 
  - Agreed.  Zenlitened   Dec-18-10 05:46 PM   #91 
  - Well said  Bluebear   Dec-19-10 02:57 PM   #111 
  - Don't forget the Log Cabin Republicans who took it to court  sabrina 1   Dec-19-10 03:37 PM   #114 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-18-10 02:48 PM   #19 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-18-10 02:54 PM   #39 
  - Start THE FIGHT right up again, why don't you?  Warren Stupidity   Dec-18-10 02:50 PM   #25 
  - Oh so today there will be no "mindless cheerleading."  treestar   Dec-18-10 02:51 PM   #28 
  - WTF?  Warren Stupidity   Dec-18-10 02:53 PM   #34 
  - So not praise it due today?  treestar   Dec-18-10 05:53 PM   #92 
     - what?  Warren Stupidity   Dec-19-10 10:13 AM   #109 
  - "Mindless cheerleading" vs. "mindless constant knee-jerk concern"  bushisanidiot   Dec-18-10 02:54 PM   #36 
     - A major victory indeed, which is being praised wide and far on this board  Warren Stupidity   Dec-18-10 02:57 PM   #45 
  - LOL !!!  WillyT   Dec-18-10 02:52 PM   #30 
  - There are people in this thread and every other one on this topic  Mortos   Dec-18-10 02:54 PM   #38 
     - That may in fact be true, but the OP is shit stirring bullshit.  Warren Stupidity   Dec-18-10 02:55 PM   #41 
     - How is it stirring bullshit  Mortos   Dec-18-10 03:10 PM   #65 
        - How about celebrating with the vast majority here instead?  Warren Stupidity   Dec-18-10 03:29 PM   #74 
     - Ok... NOW Who's The Drama Queen ???  WillyT   Dec-18-10 02:57 PM   #47 
  - It's really unfair...  BlueCheese   Dec-18-10 02:52 PM   #29 
  - The general memo here on DU is that Bill Clinton did everything wrong  AndrewP   Dec-18-10 02:57 PM   #46 
     - I realize that.  BlueCheese   Dec-18-10 03:02 PM   #52 
  - You can say as many nice things as you like and I'll join you as I feel appropriate.  TheKentuckian   Dec-18-10 02:52 PM   #32 
  - I give credit where due, and criticism when deserved. This is a good thing, so "+1" for Obama. nm  Richard Steele   Dec-18-10 02:53 PM   #35 
  - K & R  Scurrilous   Dec-18-10 02:55 PM   #42 
  - No...  butterfly77   Dec-18-10 02:55 PM   #43 
  - I am beginning to retake a cottoning to him myself.  bluestate10   Dec-18-10 02:56 PM   #44 
  - Yes We Can.  jaxx   Dec-18-10 02:58 PM   #48 
  - You Know...It Is Getting Old  WiffenPoof   Dec-18-10 03:00 PM   #50 
  - " This is still America isn't it?"  Warren Stupidity   Dec-18-10 03:02 PM   #51 
     - I Don't really Know...  WiffenPoof   Dec-18-10 03:06 PM   #59 
        - I think it was TR, yes.  BlueCheese   Dec-18-10 03:09 PM   #64 
  - Obama certainly should get props for this. No argument here.  pacalo   Dec-18-10 03:06 PM   #60 
  - As long as it has nothing to do with money..  sendero   Dec-18-10 03:16 PM   #67 
  - Question  Left of the Left   Dec-18-10 03:16 PM   #68 
  - And you prove my point but today  Mortos   Dec-18-10 03:23 PM   #71 
  - If one spells it, can the 'president' prefix be left off? Or should one  Obamanaut   Dec-19-10 03:28 PM   #112 
  - Welcome to DU, LOL  Bucky   Dec-18-10 03:50 PM   #77 
  - Goldfish & Republicans...  bhikkhu   Dec-18-10 03:23 PM   #72 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Dec-18-10 04:13 PM   #79 
  - you betcha!....  madrchsod   Dec-18-10 04:18 PM   #80 
  - here's a K&R for showing guts  Jeffersons Ghost   Dec-18-10 04:19 PM   #81 
  - I say "GOOD FOR YOU" Obama, Pelosi and Reid!!!  Fla Dem   Dec-18-10 04:22 PM   #82 
  - Oh, dear god....  chaska   Dec-18-10 04:32 PM   #83 
  - :nodding:  Bluebear   Dec-19-10 02:14 AM   #102 
  - You are not alone!!!!!!!  mstinamotorcity   Dec-18-10 04:32 PM   #84 
  - I hear ya, FDR was only facing a MILITARY COUP while Obama has  Edweird   Dec-19-10 03:33 PM   #113 
  - Thank you, Mr. President!  Dappleganger   Dec-18-10 04:33 PM   #85 
  - I would like to thank him for  panzerfaust   Dec-18-10 05:31 PM   #89 
  - Looks like we don't have a choice.  Dawgs   Dec-18-10 05:41 PM   #90 
  - On this bravo  nadinbrzezinski   Dec-18-10 06:01 PM   #97 
  - No.  Enthusiast   Dec-18-10 11:10 PM   #100 

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