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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-11 02:21 PM
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5. "Yes, these are actual things men have told me on Internet discussion boards."
"There isn't a problem with the education of boys. They're lazy slackers only interested in video games"
"More male teachers wouldn't improve educational outcomes for boys. (The education secretary) only wants more men so they can fire tenured women."
"The fact that 3 women graduate from college for every two men is a good thing, because there are plenty of men's jobs (like plumbing, wiring and construction)"
"Men shouldn't be teachers because men are child molesters."

I've heard these actual things on the internet too. Three of the four were from people claiming to be teachers. Facts are determined by a show of hands? One needn't go so far as wikipedia.

Wikipedia is about as accurate as Encyclopedia Brittanica.

I'm having trouble with the underlying idea that factual articles are somehow more likely if written by women. It's arguable that more topics of interest to women will be written if they participate, and is in itself a good reason for you to rethink your decision to not sign up, but the infrastructure and rules of wikipedia make every statement falsifiable. If I say something that can't be independently validated, someone will call me on it. Gender has nothing to do with it.

Besides, how does anyone know the gender of "bluesky996", or any online persona for that matter? I just signed up. The signup screen doesn't ask for gender or real name for that matter. How can you increase the participation of women to 25% if you don't keep count?
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  -About That Male Dominated, Fact Loving Realm Pamela Troy  Feb-01-11 01:26 PM   #0 
  - +1 billion x 2  leftstreet   Feb-01-11 01:30 PM   #1 
  - K and R.  Hello_Kitty   Feb-01-11 01:38 PM   #2 
  - !!  leftstreet   Feb-01-11 01:43 PM   #3 
  - Misogyny  chervilant   Feb-03-11 07:38 PM   #43 
  - LOL!  lumberjack_jeff   Feb-01-11 02:32 PM   #8 
  - "I disagree because you're a woman and therefore...  Pamela Troy   Feb-01-11 02:45 PM   #11 
  - Your response falls under "You Just Enjoy Being Offended"  Hello_Kitty   Feb-01-11 03:18 PM   #14 
     - .  lumberjack_jeff   Feb-01-11 03:19 PM   #15 
     - damn... last paragraph  seabeyond   Feb-01-11 03:20 PM   #16 
     - It seems like most people are incapbable of seeing things from other prespectives.  Odin2005   Feb-01-11 05:41 PM   #19 
  - It's also virtually every conceivable answer to ANYTHING other than ...  Shandris   Feb-05-11 05:28 PM   #58 
  - Interesting post --  defendandprotect   Feb-01-11 02:03 PM   #4 
  - "Yes, these are actual things men have told me on Internet discussion boards."  lumberjack_jeff   Feb-01-11 02:21 PM   #5 
  - Try actually responding to what i've posted.  Pamela Troy   Feb-01-11 02:25 PM   #6 
     - Then I've clearly misunderstood.  lumberjack_jeff   Feb-01-11 02:39 PM   #9 
        - Yessss... the purpose of an encyclopedia is dispensing factual information...  Pamela Troy   Feb-01-11 02:43 PM   #10 
        - "Imagine?" You just said that men will omit controversial relevant facts.  lumberjack_jeff   Feb-01-11 03:04 PM   #12 
        - No, I did not say that.  Pamela Troy   Feb-01-11 04:43 PM   #17 
           - Yet you quite deliberately conflated the two things  tkmorris   Feb-01-11 05:44 PM   #20 
              - The response above was in answer to the question about  Pamela Troy   Feb-01-11 06:00 PM   #22 
        - Agreed.  athena   Feb-05-11 05:05 PM   #57 
        - you misunderstood only because you think it's just fine that Wiki repels contributions from women  bettyellen   Feb-01-11 07:38 PM   #26 
           - Maybe you're right.  lumberjack_jeff   Feb-01-11 09:22 PM   #27 
              - repel is not a synonym for allow, so perhaps you need a dictionary before you graduate to wiki.  bettyellen   Feb-02-11 01:15 AM   #30 
                 - Wikipedia is the way it is, because that's the only way it can be.  lumberjack_jeff   Feb-02-11 10:28 AM   #32 
                    - the argumentation going on in Wiki was criticized because it is not a search for the truth, but as a  bettyellen   Feb-03-11 07:17 PM   #40 
                       - my hubby totally nonconfrontional. me.... not so much. pretty aggressive  seabeyond   Feb-03-11 07:21 PM   #41 
                          - oh yeah , I don;t think the debating side of it is gneder related as much...  bettyellen   Feb-03-11 08:11 PM   #44 
  - Wow, I knew the freepers were heartless bastards... but damn!!!  Initech   Feb-01-11 02:29 PM   #7 
  - Very interesting.  Bunny   Feb-01-11 03:14 PM   #13 
  - K&R  Odin2005   Feb-01-11 05:29 PM   #18 
  - And what precisely is your solution? n/t  MicaelS   Feb-01-11 05:54 PM   #21 
  - Confrontation.  Pamela Troy   Feb-01-11 06:00 PM   #23 
     - No, I don't...I see little that can be done as long as  MicaelS   Feb-01-11 07:18 PM   #24 
  - Yes, but that's how Wikipedia works.  Warren DeMontague   Feb-01-11 07:33 PM   #25 
  - Wikipedia is a Game for boys to practice "Winning", at any cost.  nomb   Feb-01-11 09:51 PM   #28 
  - war games  Nitram   Feb-03-11 07:24 AM   #34 
  - war games  Nitram   Feb-03-11 07:26 AM   #35 
  - sorry  Nitram   Feb-03-11 07:27 AM   #36 
  - That is the nature of rhetoric.  joshcryer   Feb-03-11 07:25 PM   #42 
  - It's also the root of intellectual dishonesty  nomb   Feb-03-11 08:24 PM   #45 
  - Sometimes I can't tell if "a few" is many, or the same one over and over  Warren DeMontague   Feb-05-11 04:35 AM   #49 
  - Amen!  Kitty Herder   Feb-01-11 10:36 PM   #29 
  - K&R. (nt)  Kurovski   Feb-02-11 01:26 AM   #31 
  - Thanks  Nitram   Feb-03-11 07:14 AM   #33 
  - I don't think that the issue in your example has to do with the facts, it's about relevance.  JVS   Feb-03-11 07:30 AM   #37 
  - You don't think the selection of facts can be influenced  Pamela Troy   Feb-04-11 10:11 AM   #47 
     - Your example doesn't touch on demographics. It has to do with people who...  JVS   Feb-05-11 03:21 AM   #48 
        - My post deals both with democraphics  Pamela Troy   Feb-05-11 01:37 PM   #50 
           - Then why spend time complaining about it?  Warren DeMontague   Feb-05-11 02:58 PM   #51 
  - This seems a bizarre rant intermixing and confusing unrelated issues.  Bonobo   Feb-03-11 07:31 AM   #38 
  - Can you be a bit more specific about  Pamela Troy   Feb-04-11 10:10 AM   #46 
  - K&R  Leithan   Feb-03-11 07:34 AM   #39 
  - So...  MellowDem   Feb-05-11 03:26 PM   #52 
  - Right on!  Darth_Kitten   Feb-05-11 03:55 PM   #53 
  - What I find is that all this kerfluffle about "fact loving realm" is directed at Wikipedia,  MadHound   Feb-05-11 04:09 PM   #54 
  - Maybe they should ask some women about this. I'm a woman.  Honeycombe8   Feb-05-11 04:15 PM   #55 
  - Thank you Pamela. n/t  myrna minx   Feb-05-11 04:18 PM   #56 
  - K  Denzil_DC   Feb-05-11 07:19 PM   #59 

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