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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 05:46 PM
Response to Reply #28
41. I don't qualify for any of the credits.
If I make the same next year as I did this year my taxes are going up $180.

But hey, I'm not one of the people who matter so who cares?
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  -President Obama is raising my taxes. I am barely above the poverty line. AlabamaLibrul  Dec-17-10 04:28 PM   #0 
  - Inflation's the biggest tax of all - it funds the war machine. nt  phasma ex machina   Dec-17-10 04:29 PM   #1 
  - And silent reduction of weights and sizes of food products appear to be shrinking  lonestarnot   Dec-17-10 09:42 PM   #88 
  - The lose of  femrap   Dec-18-10 08:55 AM   #117 
  - I am right there with you!  Rex   Dec-17-10 04:31 PM   #2 
  - Yep, me too  Lorien   Dec-17-10 04:34 PM   #6 
  - +1 The powers-that-be who just gave themselves a tax break do indeed want your home.  phasma ex machina   Dec-17-10 04:43 PM   #16 
  - and 150,000,000 million other poor Americans in households with more taxes.  L. Coyote   Dec-17-10 07:30 PM   #76 
     - It's beyond disgusting.  femrap   Dec-18-10 09:00 AM   #118 
  - I used to have  Delphinus   Dec-17-10 05:56 PM   #46 
     - Hey we can try and survive together here on DU.  Rex   Dec-18-10 01:01 AM   #108 
     - Hugs back to you.  Delphinus   Dec-18-10 02:23 PM   #158 
     - I totally empathize with you.  Divernan   Dec-18-10 10:15 AM   #125 
        - And a Christmas hug  Delphinus   Dec-18-10 02:27 PM   #160 
  - I hear ya.  Skink   Dec-17-10 04:31 PM   #3 
  - I'm so sorry that so many were left behind in this.  myrna minx   Dec-17-10 04:33 PM   #4 
  - The 99ers really got shafted  somone   Dec-17-10 04:35 PM   #9 
  - Many people here don't understand that the bottom tax rate of  pnwmom   Dec-17-10 04:42 PM   #15 
     - Good summary; thanks.  elleng   Dec-17-10 04:53 PM   #29 
     - Nope, sorry, you don't get to use that comparison anymore.  Hello_Kitty   Dec-17-10 05:38 PM   #38 
     - Of course I can. The choice was between going back to the 2001 tax rate  pnwmom   Dec-17-10 06:19 PM   #58 
        - That choice never really existed and it's gone now.  Hello_Kitty   Dec-17-10 06:36 PM   #68 
        - $29 a year  SOS   Dec-18-10 10:14 AM   #124 
        - why do you keep defending this? they got everybody's tax cut right except for these folks  CreekDog   Dec-18-10 12:39 PM   #151 
     - Is it okay that, in replacing MWP, the poor's taxes go up from this year while the rich go down  AlabamaLibrul   Dec-17-10 06:14 PM   #53 
     - It spurs the growth of the wealthy elites bank accounts. That's about it.  stillwaiting   Dec-18-10 07:50 AM   #113 
     - IF this tax package works....  femrap   Dec-18-10 09:09 AM   #119 
     - but everyone was spared from a tax increase, except the poorest people  CreekDog   Dec-18-10 12:36 PM   #150 
     - "IF" encompasses many possibilites  TalkingDog   Dec-18-10 01:34 PM   #152 
     - "IF"?  skyounkin   Dec-18-10 04:27 PM   #179 
  - He is? How so?  TwilightGardener   Dec-17-10 04:33 PM   #5 
  - Is he the President?  nadinbrzezinski   Dec-17-10 04:34 PM   #7 
  - By what specific mechanism did he raise taxes on this poster?  TwilightGardener   Dec-17-10 04:35 PM   #8 
     - The bill he just signed onto law  nadinbrzezinski   Dec-17-10 04:44 PM   #17 
     - No--by what specific mechanism in the bill did he raise taxes on this poster?  TwilightGardener   Dec-17-10 04:45 PM   #19 
        - Read the analysis from experts since obviously you  nadinbrzezinski   Dec-17-10 04:47 PM   #21 
           - You can't answer the question. Because Obama did not raise the poster's taxes.  TwilightGardener   Dec-17-10 04:51 PM   #27 
              - Yes I can, but you refuse to do homework  nadinbrzezinski   Dec-17-10 04:56 PM   #31 
              - That's dated November 11th--it's a Senate Republican bill regarding  TwilightGardener   Dec-17-10 05:03 PM   #33 
              - And current analysis says that they are still going up  nadinbrzezinski   Dec-17-10 05:20 PM   #36 
                 - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Dec-17-10 06:22 PM   #59 
                 - "current analysis"..sounds like "some say"  shellgame26   Dec-18-10 10:26 AM   #127 
              - You are willfully unaware of reality. n/t  tabasco   Dec-18-10 10:30 AM   #131 
              - too bad the admin didn't use that very same argument to let the elite tax cuts expire  Donnachaidh   Dec-18-10 11:13 AM   #139 
              - +1  shireen   Dec-18-10 01:36 PM   #153 
              - It's the same argument being used  SnakeEyes   Dec-18-10 03:26 PM   #165 
     - Here: Let Larry Summers tell you.  Hello_Kitty   Dec-17-10 07:26 PM   #75 
        - Right. They didn't want it. It wasn't going to pass, because Republicans  TwilightGardener   Dec-17-10 09:39 PM   #87 
           - But the GOP wanted the payroll tax cut, and so did the Admin.  Hello_Kitty   Dec-17-10 10:48 PM   #97 
              - If you can't get what you want, you settle for something else.  TwilightGardener   Dec-17-10 10:56 PM   #100 
                 - Right  quakerboy   Dec-18-10 02:26 PM   #159 
  - Almost every expert addressing the issue admits this is happening.  truedelphi   Dec-17-10 04:38 PM   #10 
  - What specific action did Obama make to raise taxes on this poster?  TwilightGardener   Dec-17-10 04:40 PM   #13 
  - here: "Obama's deal will raise taxes for some low-income workers" - McClatchy  nashville_brook   Dec-17-10 05:44 PM   #40 
  - Right--because Making Work Pay expires. It would expire no matter what.  TwilightGardener   Dec-17-10 06:09 PM   #52 
  - Sure it is  Kalun D   Dec-17-10 06:33 PM   #66 
  - No, it's not. The MWP credit was for everybody, and it went bye bye  TwilightGardener   Dec-17-10 06:45 PM   #71 
  - But I thought the payroll holiday is supposed to be temporary too.  Hello_Kitty   Dec-17-10 07:02 PM   #73 
  - Bottom Line  Kalun D   Dec-17-10 08:34 PM   #81 
     - Everybody lost the credit. Not just the poor. It's just that they're not  TwilightGardener   Dec-17-10 09:28 PM   #85 
        - Everyone lost the MWP credit but higher wage earners make out better .  Hello_Kitty   Dec-17-10 10:10 PM   #93 
           - You're right, I can't imagine why people who are opposed to the tax compromise  TwilightGardener   Dec-17-10 10:17 PM   #94 
              - I can't imagine why you thought letting all the tax cuts and credits expire was ever an option.  Hello_Kitty   Dec-17-10 10:41 PM   #96 
              - I didn't think it was a GOOD option. But it's what a lot of people here were urging.  TwilightGardener   Dec-17-10 10:51 PM   #99 
              - But the GOP did want the regressive payroll tax holiday.  Hello_Kitty   Dec-17-10 11:04 PM   #102 
                 - I don't know what the effects will be. Krugman wasn't opposed to it, just  TwilightGardener   Dec-17-10 11:07 PM   #103 
                    - Not sure Krugman was taking the actual regressiveness into effect.  Hello_Kitty   Dec-17-10 11:17 PM   #104 
              - Congress people are not paid by the firms that lobbyists work for  truedelphi   Dec-19-10 04:38 PM   #185 
              - Tax cuts are not stimulus. Quit spreading supply sider lies  martymar64   Dec-18-10 10:31 AM   #132 
                 - All tax cuts are not examples of supply side economics.  tritsofme   Dec-18-10 02:28 PM   #161 
                    - The payroll tax cut is the back door to attack Social Security  martymar64   Dec-18-10 10:00 PM   #181 
  - Facts don't matter to people  nadinbrzezinski   Dec-17-10 06:50 PM   #72 
  - So if Obama had allowed Bush's "temporary" tax cuts to expire  dflprincess   Dec-17-10 09:06 PM   #82 
     - Actually, Obama wanted to make those rates permanent for the middle class.  TwilightGardener   Dec-17-10 09:36 PM   #86 
  - This just irks the  femrap   Dec-18-10 09:24 AM   #120 
  - If you want specifics, this post contains some vital links  truedelphi   Dec-18-10 03:43 AM   #111 
  - His capitulation to his republican collegues...  ProudDad   Dec-18-10 03:38 PM   #168 
  - OH YEAH, BABY...  truedelphi   Dec-19-10 04:35 PM   #184 
  - His capitulation to his republican collegues...  ProudDad   Dec-18-10 03:38 PM   #169 
  - Only if you compare next year's taxes to this year's taxes,  pnwmom   Dec-17-10 04:46 PM   #20 
  - So the fact that tthe bottom rate can basically eat their shorts doesn't bother those here  truedelphi   Dec-17-10 04:49 PM   #23 
     - Trust me some of us  nadinbrzezinski   Dec-17-10 04:50 PM   #24 
        - I am hoping some on this board are still fond of  truedelphi   Dec-17-10 04:54 PM   #30 
  - However, if you scrub the blood off that turnip too hard  Horse with no Name   Dec-17-10 04:50 PM   #25 
  - Hey Horse with no name  truedelphi   Dec-17-10 05:02 PM   #32 
     - We're ALL going to have to learn ways to stretch our dollars  Horse with no Name   Dec-17-10 05:20 PM   #35 
  - This sounds like a dodge  treestar   Dec-17-10 04:52 PM   #28 
     - The world's ending soon anyway, or so I've read here.  Ikonoklast   Dec-17-10 05:32 PM   #37 
     - for some it actually is  fascisthunter   Dec-17-10 06:00 PM   #50 
     - I don't qualify for any of the credits.  Hello_Kitty   Dec-17-10 05:46 PM   #41 
     - Here's the evidence  Hello_Kitty   Dec-17-10 05:52 PM   #44 
     - that is chilling  shireen   Dec-18-10 01:49 PM   #154 
        - That is seriously f'ed up  GinaMaria   Dec-18-10 04:20 PM   #176 
     - Left wing spin?  Brookyn_Queen   Dec-18-10 04:09 PM   #175 
  - why is the sky blue?  fascisthunter   Dec-17-10 05:56 PM   #47 
  - silly -- someone has to pay for cutting the estate tax!! sheesh.  nashville_brook   Dec-17-10 04:38 PM   #11 
  - Not really.  pnwmom   Dec-17-10 04:39 PM   #12 
  - So you honestly think it's okay?  Hello_Kitty   Dec-17-10 05:50 PM   #42 
  - some people live comfortably  fascisthunter   Dec-17-10 05:58 PM   #49 
  - There is something called  femrap   Dec-18-10 09:29 AM   #121 
     - Pitchforks? Don't be so harsh! Let's toast to their health!  MedicalAdmin   Dec-18-10 10:32 AM   #133 
  - Yes, they do... They are among the elitist class  ProudDad   Dec-18-10 03:37 PM   #167 
  - Yes, really. My taxes are going up. Just because they are going up less than they would have  AlabamaLibrul   Dec-17-10 06:08 PM   #51 
  - Your tax RATE will not be going up. It will remain at 10%  pnwmom   Dec-17-10 06:23 PM   #60 
     - Oh well my tax RATE isn't going up, great! I'll send in the same amount I sent last year then. n/t  AlabamaLibrul   Dec-17-10 06:25 PM   #61 
     - Do that. All that will change is that you won't get a check in the mail  pnwmom   Dec-17-10 06:35 PM   #67 
     - Their tax RATE isn't going up, only their tax BILL.  hay rick   Dec-17-10 09:44 PM   #89 
  - look at it another way ...  shireen   Dec-18-10 02:01 PM   #156 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-17-10 04:41 PM   #14 
  - why do you feel a need to attack people when they are talking  sasha031   Dec-17-10 04:47 PM   #22 
  - They can't do math or else don't understand that the 10% tax rate  pnwmom   Dec-17-10 06:18 PM   #57 
  - its all about the math  rapturedbyrobots   Dec-17-10 09:07 PM   #83 
  - Due to democrat sloth or incompetence or collusion...  ProudDad   Dec-18-10 03:51 PM   #173 
  - Well said! Its a FUCKING LIE!  Egnever   Dec-17-10 06:26 PM   #62 
  - self-delete: not going to get into personal attacks over this  AlabamaLibrul   Dec-17-10 06:31 PM   #65 
  - How the fuck is it a lie when the people we claim this is being done to help will pay more  TheKentuckian   Dec-17-10 07:35 PM   #78 
  - +1...nt  SidDithers   Dec-17-10 06:31 PM   #64 
  - I feel your pain, I struggle too  sasha031   Dec-17-10 04:44 PM   #18 
  - President Obama is NOT raising your taxes,  elleng   Dec-17-10 04:50 PM   #26 
  - And they're just paupers anyway, so who cares? eom  Hello_Kitty   Dec-17-10 05:44 PM   #39 
  - "Are there no prisons? Are there no workhouses?"  intheflow   Dec-17-10 08:28 PM   #80 
  - It was Obama's compromise n/t  AlabamaLibrul   Dec-17-10 06:16 PM   #55 
  - It was THEIR compromise; one does not compromise with oneself.  elleng   Dec-17-10 07:15 PM   #74 
     - No, it takes two to compromise. Obama was one of the two and the GOP was the other. n/t  totodeinhere   Dec-17-10 10:22 PM   #95 
  - His signature is on the bill.  Dappleganger   Dec-17-10 10:49 PM   #98 
  - the rich keep getting richer  smiley   Dec-17-10 05:10 PM   #34 
  - I keep getting told that it's no big deal, and I should be glad to pay my share  slackmaster   Dec-17-10 05:52 PM   #43 
  - "Shut up, pauper, it could have been WORSE" is what I keep hearing.  Hello_Kitty   Dec-17-10 05:54 PM   #45 
  - Yes you should  katnapped   Dec-17-10 05:57 PM   #48 
  - You should want all tax cuts for the low earners to expire, therefore their taxes  TwilightGardener   Dec-17-10 06:14 PM   #54 
     - The claim was that we all had to share in the sacrifice. Instead, taxes are only going up for the  AlabamaLibrul   Dec-17-10 06:18 PM   #56 
        - A stimulus tax cut was scheduled to end, and is ending.  TwilightGardener   Dec-17-10 06:26 PM   #63 
           - The one that helps the rich was scheduled to end, too. But only the one for the poor did. n/t  AlabamaLibrul   Dec-17-10 06:41 PM   #70 
              - That tax credit went away for everyone. Repubs would not agree to renew it.  TwilightGardener   Dec-17-10 09:46 PM   #90 
                 - Instead the Repubs got a payroll taxcut  Hello_Kitty   Dec-18-10 12:10 AM   #107 
  - If inflation is up 3% a year for a few years, and then goes down 2% for a few years  AlabamaLibrul   Dec-17-10 06:40 PM   #69 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-17-10 07:35 PM   #77 
  - You're right and this is sickening  Yo_Mama   Dec-17-10 08:10 PM   #79 
  - Damn straight!  Hello_Kitty   Dec-17-10 10:05 PM   #92 
  - Thank you  Caretha   Dec-18-10 08:21 AM   #115 
  - Well said  davidthegnome   Dec-18-10 11:43 AM   #142 
  - You had it easy for too long  kenny blankenship   Dec-17-10 09:11 PM   #84 
  - Actually, the conversation will proceed quite nicely  hay rick   Dec-17-10 09:50 PM   #91 
  - Evidently, that got ZIP attention .... !!!  defendandprotect   Dec-17-10 10:58 PM   #101 
  - I am right there with you  Tsiyu   Dec-17-10 11:48 PM   #105 
  - I just posted this:  Kalyke   Dec-17-10 11:53 PM   #106 
  - Wait until you get hit by the coming inflation  taught_me_patience   Dec-18-10 01:16 AM   #109 
  - You said a mouthful there!!!  femrap   Dec-18-10 09:38 AM   #122 
  - I'll bet lots of folks barely making it are going to be unpleasantly surprised  Donnachaidh   Dec-18-10 03:43 AM   #110 
  - Need to just suck it up  katnapped   Dec-18-10 07:52 AM   #114 
     - yeah, surprising that sort of attitude when so many here claim to be progressive  Donnachaidh   Dec-18-10 11:08 AM   #138 
  - Divide and conquer, devil take the hindmost.  blindpig   Dec-18-10 07:38 AM   #112 
  - That Tax Bill was  femrap   Dec-18-10 08:52 AM   #116 
  - The stupid thing is: he's NOT raising my taxes.  DFW   Dec-18-10 10:13 AM   #123 
  - What are you talking about??? You're paying less taxes than in decades & Obama just signed a less  judesedit   Dec-18-10 10:21 AM   #126 
  - And the wealthy are paying WAY less. Why do you think we have this huge shortfall?  judesedit   Dec-18-10 10:34 AM   #134 
  - One more thing...without the tax cuts, 23 million jobs were created...WITH the tax cuts only 3  judesedit   Dec-18-10 10:39 AM   #135 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-18-10 10:27 AM   #128 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-18-10 10:27 AM   #129 
  - I hope you have some evidence that the poster is a liar.  obxhead   Dec-18-10 10:57 AM   #136 
  - It' a shame..  quickesst   Dec-18-10 10:29 AM   #130 
  - but, but, but..... PONY!  obxhead   Dec-18-10 11:00 AM   #137 
  - Yep.  alarimer   Dec-18-10 11:16 AM   #140 
  - K&R Between this tax burden on the lowest earners in the  midnight   Dec-18-10 11:25 AM   #141 
  - if you're barely above the poverty line  TheWebHead   Dec-18-10 11:53 AM   #143 
  - Wrong. I'm under the poverty line and will owe taxes.  Hello_Kitty   Dec-18-10 12:25 PM   #145 
  - Nope  katnapped   Dec-18-10 12:30 PM   #147 
  - You seem to be misinformed about our tax code. n/t  Exilednight   Dec-18-10 12:31 PM   #148 
  - Heard it from Rush first-hand, no doubt n/t  katnapped   Dec-18-10 12:34 PM   #149 
  - That is not true  Brookyn_Queen   Dec-18-10 04:23 PM   #178 
  - There were republicans who  davidthegnome   Dec-18-10 12:00 PM   #144 
  - +1  Starry Messenger   Dec-18-10 12:28 PM   #146 
  - Exactly!  DeSwiss   Dec-18-10 01:50 PM   #155 
  - people disagreeing with the OP are MISSING THE POINT  shireen   Dec-18-10 02:13 PM   #157 
  - It was left out because Republicans wouldn't support it. If you want to blame  TwilightGardener   Dec-18-10 02:30 PM   #162 
  - Not according to Larry Summers, as I already pointed out upthread.  Hello_Kitty   Dec-18-10 03:43 PM   #171 
     - Yeah, typical larry summers shit...  ProudDad   Dec-18-10 03:52 PM   #174 
     - Yeah...we covered this already. It doesn't prove that Obama raised anyone's taxes in this bill.  TwilightGardener   Dec-18-10 04:22 PM   #177 
  - Thanks. nt  BlueIris   Dec-18-10 03:37 PM   #166 
  - Uh, no - he kept your taxes from going up.  johnaries   Dec-18-10 02:54 PM   #163 
  - That horrible conflation of Social Security funding  ProudDad   Dec-18-10 03:42 PM   #170 
  - "Shut up, paupers, it could have been WORSE!"  Hello_Kitty   Dec-18-10 03:45 PM   #172 
  - Interesting logic. How did Obama keep the OP's taxes from going up if they're actually going up?  brentspeak   Dec-18-10 10:40 PM   #182 
  - K&Rnt  maryf   Dec-18-10 02:59 PM   #164 
  - Start unionizing  killbotfactory   Dec-18-10 04:32 PM   #180 
  - kick....n/t  unkachuck   Dec-18-10 10:56 PM   #183 
  - Thr working poor are no longer considered human beings in Washington D.C.  Cowpunk   Dec-19-10 11:08 PM   #186 
 

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