| 35. "It's the Tunisians' movement!" |
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Hey, movements for justice and equality and liberty don't belong to any one group of human beings.
Let's hope that things don't have to get as bad here as they are in Egypt before we decide to kick the authoritarian, corporate militarists out of power.
Frankly, I hope this mass movement of 'people power' spreads from Tunisia and Egypt, to Syria, Saudi Arabia ... and, yes, this country if the plutocrats don't get the message that this nation belongs to all of us, not just to them and their corporations.
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| -"Wishing" for a revolution in the US in the light of Egypt is insulting to the Egyptian protestors |
Godhumor |
Jan-28-11 03:40 PM |
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Because we can't want nice things too? |
AlabamaLibrul |
Jan-28-11 03:41 PM |
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Compared to poor Egyptians, you live in the lap of luxury. nt |
sufrommich |
Jan-28-11 03:52 PM |
#16 |
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fuckin' A! n/t |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Jan-28-11 04:01 PM |
#21 |
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You haven't been to the rural south lately, have you? n/t |
melody |
Jan-28-11 04:23 PM |
#48 |
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I have...and the small pockets of poverty there |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Jan-28-11 04:49 PM |
#73 |
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To clarify on what I said earlier, and I do stand by it, |
AlabamaLibrul |
Jan-28-11 07:56 PM |
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you mean like New Orleans?...n/t |
dtmfman |
Jan-28-11 09:16 PM |
#111 |
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The last time I visited Appalachia, thank you. |
Kalyke |
Jan-28-11 10:35 PM |
#118 |
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yes, I DO know what I am talking about... |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Jan-29-11 03:42 AM |
#121 |
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oh, but there is. the causes are the same; it's the same world system. |
Hannah Bell |
Jan-29-11 04:10 AM |
#127 |
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No, there really isn't. Egypt is Egypt. America is America. |
NuclearDem |
Jan-29-11 04:13 AM |
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egyptian poverty has a different cause than american poverty? do tell. |
Hannah Bell |
Jan-29-11 04:14 AM |
#129 |
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Since when was I talking about cause? |
NuclearDem |
Jan-29-11 04:17 AM |
#130 |
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i think you better take a look at the post you responded to. |
Hannah Bell |
Jan-29-11 04:26 AM |
#132 |
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Have you been to Appalachia? |
melody |
Jan-29-11 08:59 AM |
#157 |
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But that's not the point of a comparison |
jberryhill |
Jan-29-11 01:35 PM |
#167 |
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Oh, well, that does make the difference |
melody |
Jan-29-11 03:25 PM |
#170 |
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Yes they do - but the scale is incomparable |
jberryhill |
Jan-29-11 03:55 PM |
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I don't think there will be a mass uprising here |
melody |
Jan-29-11 04:03 PM |
#176 |
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The point of the thread was about the types of conditions and numbers relevant to |
jberryhill |
Jan-29-11 04:34 PM |
#181 |
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That might have been your point of the thread |
melody |
Jan-30-11 02:09 AM |
#217 |
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Go check out post 156 "No comparison, eh?" |
melody |
Jan-29-11 03:30 PM |
#173 |
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Have you visited the 3rd world lately........EVER????? |
Mojeoux |
Jan-29-11 08:01 PM |
#199 |
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Collecting shit for cooking fuel |
jberryhill |
Jan-29-11 08:20 PM |
#201 |
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Human excrement is used on crops |
melody |
Jan-30-11 02:05 AM |
#216 |
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No one in the US has to walk miles for water |
Mojeoux |
Jan-30-11 02:55 PM |
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Here we have cracks to fall through, in the 3rd world they haven't even got cracks. nt |
Mojeoux |
Jan-30-11 02:56 PM |
#232 |
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No comparison, eh? |
Kalyke |
Jan-29-11 01:31 PM |
#165 |
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Superb post, exactly |
melody |
Jan-29-11 03:27 PM |
#171 |
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Actually the trash is a big part of it |
Recursion |
Jan-29-11 07:33 PM |
#191 |
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Oh, I see, it's just they have more trash |
melody |
Jan-30-11 02:12 AM |
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No, it's not "just that they have more trash" |
Recursion |
Jan-30-11 10:23 AM |
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So, you're saying, |
Le Taz Hot |
Jan-29-11 04:00 AM |
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Jan-29-11 08:36 AM |
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Amen n/t |
melody |
Jan-29-11 03:28 PM |
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I'm FROM the rural south, and no, there is no comparison. n/t |
superduperfarleft |
Jan-28-11 04:53 PM |
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Oddly, melody has gone silent... n/t |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Jan-28-11 05:27 PM |
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Oddly, Melody was making dinner for her family |
melody |
Jan-28-11 07:14 PM |
#101 |
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I am from an extremely rural and poor area of south Alabama |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Jan-29-11 03:38 AM |
#120 |
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Look, if you need to be right, consider yourself right |
melody |
Jan-29-11 09:02 AM |
#158 |
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Maybe you should not make dinner for your family |
AngryAmish |
Jan-29-11 06:53 AM |
#144 |
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Oh, yeah, that's fair. You don't even know me. |
melody |
Jan-29-11 09:03 AM |
#159 |
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Tell that to my cousin's neighbor |
melody |
Jan-28-11 07:17 PM |
#102 |
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your first sentence tells the difference... |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Jan-29-11 03:47 AM |
#122 |
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You need to tell your cousin's neighbor about WIC |
cali |
Jan-29-11 07:28 AM |
#150 |
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My cousin's neighbor is a hillbilly |
melody |
Jan-29-11 04:05 PM |
#177 |
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oh, so they are offered help and refuse it ? so that's a lot different than Egypt |
JI7 |
Jan-29-11 07:12 PM |
#188 |
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I can't believe this post |
melody |
Jan-30-11 02:13 AM |
#219 |
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you don't think that's a big difference ? that there is some help offered in America unlike Egypt ? |
JI7 |
Jan-30-11 03:01 AM |
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yes, I've been to Appalachia. Reminds me of the Northeast Kingdom |
cali |
Jan-30-11 03:12 AM |
#223 |
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So am I - and the ex wife of an Arabic man. |
Kalyke |
Jan-28-11 10:58 PM |
#119 |
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We have clean water, Egyptians boil water out of the Nile in buckets |
barbiegeek |
Jan-29-11 08:57 AM |
#156 |
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some of us have clean water. some egyptians have clean water too. |
Hannah Bell |
Jan-29-11 07:58 PM |
#195 |
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Appalachia boils water -- their rivers are poisoned by strip mining |
melody |
Jan-30-11 02:16 AM |
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What has perplexed me about the Middle East is the extensive poverty. |
olegramps |
Jan-29-11 06:14 AM |
#139 |
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Mankind's default position is abject poverty |
AngryAmish |
Jan-29-11 07:00 AM |
#145 |
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default position = untold wealth. |
Hannah Bell |
Jan-29-11 08:00 PM |
#198 |
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why do you think that is when a lot of them have a lot of oil? |
Hannah Bell |
Jan-29-11 07:59 PM |
#196 |
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but in fear as well. fear of losing one's job, home, health care -- for starters. |
Hannah Bell |
Jan-29-11 07:45 PM |
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How often do the secret police beat your ass? |
Teaser |
Jan-28-11 04:07 PM |
#29 |
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Who needs secret police when ordinary police can do the job? |
saras |
Jan-28-11 04:15 PM |
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they don't typically watch everything you say, take your |
tigereye |
Jan-28-11 05:51 PM |
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You think war is a nice thing? This isn't a game. n/t |
pnwmom |
Jan-28-11 04:21 PM |
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See? |
Warren DeMontague |
Jan-29-11 04:54 AM |
#134 |
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It's just plain stupid, too. We're not anywhere near such a thing. |
MineralMan |
Jan-28-11 03:42 PM |
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Jan-28-11 03:46 PM |
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We're not being oppressed by our government? |
Lucian |
Jan-28-11 03:46 PM |
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have fun. count me out if it involves violence. |
cali |
Jan-28-11 04:04 PM |
#24 |
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I'm an advocate for peaceful demonstrations. |
Lucian |
Jan-28-11 05:54 PM |
#91 |
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Ah, so it's "let's you and him fight" is it? |
MineralMan |
Jan-28-11 06:41 PM |
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gee...wonder where we'd be... |
dtmfman |
Jan-28-11 09:18 PM |
#112 |
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How many of your relatives have been disappeared? |
Teaser |
Jan-28-11 04:08 PM |
#31 |
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Relatives, or friends? |
saras |
Jan-28-11 04:17 PM |
#39 |
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Okay, I'll play. |
cherokeeprogressive |
Jan-28-11 04:24 PM |
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I know one person indicted by a grand jury through an FBI mole for simply organizing. |
readmoreoften |
Jan-28-11 04:55 PM |
#80 |
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Actually the poster used the term "killed". |
cherokeeprogressive |
Jan-28-11 05:48 PM |
#89 |
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yes, get that list |
Teaser |
Jan-28-11 04:37 PM |
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Jan-28-11 06:35 PM |
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Jan-28-11 07:22 PM |
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Jan-28-11 08:52 PM |
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Jan-28-11 06:40 PM |
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Oooooooooooh...elections... |
Lucian |
Jan-28-11 07:22 PM |
#104 |
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I vote for Bernie Sanders, Pat Leahy, Peter Welch, Peter Shumlin |
cali |
Jan-29-11 07:31 AM |
#151 |
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What about our unemployed and uninsured? |
Lucian |
Jan-28-11 03:42 PM |
#3 |
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Nonviolent protests are one thing. Armed revolutionaries are another. n/t |
pnwmom |
Jan-28-11 04:34 PM |
#62 |
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what unemployed...what uninsured? |
dtmfman |
Jan-28-11 10:03 PM |
#114 |
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AMERICA DOES NOT NEED A REVOLUTION! |
Rex |
Jan-28-11 03:42 PM |
#4 |
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And if they don't? |
atreides1 |
Jan-28-11 03:51 PM |
#15 |
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We gripe about it on the Internets. |
Rex |
Jan-28-11 03:57 PM |
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Or we can raise taxes to 90% and they will leave too... |
dkf |
Jan-28-11 04:17 PM |
#40 |
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Only the money the can prove they earned legitimately and within 24hrs. |
Rex |
Jan-28-11 04:28 PM |
#55 |
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Yes, they'll flee to Europe where the tax rate is even higher. |
superduperfarleft |
Jan-28-11 04:41 PM |
#69 |
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That would take a revolution. |
mmonk |
Jan-28-11 10:07 PM |
#115 |
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So we should just accept our fate at the hands of the tyrannical elites? |
DJ13 |
Jan-28-11 03:43 PM |
#5 |
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Where did you pull that from? |
JuniperLea |
Jan-28-11 03:49 PM |
#12 |
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the self-indulgence here is pretty funny. |
cali |
Jan-28-11 04:05 PM |
#25 |
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I'm surprised some people... |
JuniperLea |
Jan-28-11 04:47 PM |
#72 |
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Not being able to afford to have an abscessed tooth pulled.. |
Fumesucker |
Jan-28-11 07:25 PM |
#105 |
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Yeah, and not having the funds to have your tooth pulled is JUST LIKE living under martial law for |
Maru Kitteh |
Jan-29-11 04:09 PM |
#178 |
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+1000 |
NotThisTime |
Jan-28-11 04:30 PM |
#57 |
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Nonviolent means of protest is one thing. Revolution is another. n/t |
pnwmom |
Jan-28-11 04:23 PM |
#45 |
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Pondering the tolerance level of an oppressed class is not "wishing" |
leftstreet |
Jan-28-11 03:44 PM |
#6 |
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Define 'necessary', please. |
enlightenment |
Jan-28-11 03:45 PM |
#7 |
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Yeah, that's just plain ignorance... |
JuniperLea |
Jan-28-11 03:47 PM |
#10 |
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Yes, anyone who "wishes" for justice should "wake the hell up" |
readmoreoften |
Jan-28-11 03:56 PM |
#19 |
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big difference between justice and revolution. |
Bluerthanblue |
Jan-28-11 04:06 PM |
#27 |
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Uh. Yeah, justice happens when a revolutionary change is successful. |
readmoreoften |
Jan-28-11 04:27 PM |
#54 |
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"you people".... you'd do much better to ask what someone is |
Bluerthanblue |
Jan-28-11 04:52 PM |
#76 |
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Most revolutions have wound up making things worse |
Recursion |
Jan-29-11 07:08 PM |
#186 |
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I'll take this as verification... |
JuniperLea |
Jan-28-11 04:37 PM |
#66 |
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So you want rebellion for the sake of rebellion? |
Arkana |
Jan-28-11 06:43 PM |
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+1000 |
Bluerthanblue |
Jan-28-11 04:03 PM |
#22 |
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Hi! |
JuniperLea |
Jan-28-11 04:35 PM |
#63 |
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People don't realize |
Drale |
Jan-28-11 03:48 PM |
#11 |
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Well said... |
JuniperLea |
Jan-28-11 03:51 PM |
#14 |
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Yup. And the Tea Party people love to talk about revolution, too. |
pnwmom |
Jan-28-11 04:24 PM |
#51 |
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Holy Mother of God! |
JuniperLea |
Jan-28-11 04:30 PM |
#58 |
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O no if they tried to start a violent revolution |
Drale |
Jan-28-11 04:38 PM |
#67 |
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Ha! Love this post! |
JuniperLea |
Jan-28-11 04:49 PM |
#74 |
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But not against the corporate-loving |
Le Taz Hot |
Jan-29-11 04:04 AM |
#124 |
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Then there is an objective list of grievances |
LanternWaste |
Jan-28-11 03:51 PM |
#13 |
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The font on the interstate highway signs sucks |
jberryhill |
Jan-28-11 06:54 PM |
#99 |
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Oh here we go. Just like only people about to lose their fingers need unions. |
readmoreoften |
Jan-28-11 03:54 PM |
#17 |
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+1 |
leftstreet |
Jan-28-11 03:56 PM |
#18 |
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My oh here we go moment was watching people get excited that it might/should happen here |
Godhumor |
Jan-28-11 04:04 PM |
#23 |
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Yes, 50% of Egyptians live under the official poverty level. |
ipaint |
Jan-28-11 04:09 PM |
#33 |
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No. It's not going to happen here soon. That's a world apart from "shouldn't" happen here soon. |
readmoreoften |
Jan-28-11 04:16 PM |
#38 |
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Standing in solidarity is a lot different than "Oh Boy, we should be doing this to our bankers!" |
Godhumor |
Jan-28-11 04:20 PM |
#41 |
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Of course it is. But it's fallacious to argue that somehow wanting to revolt against the banks |
readmoreoften |
Jan-28-11 04:31 PM |
#59 |
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JHC |
snooper2 |
Jan-28-11 04:05 PM |
#26 |
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+1 |
JVS |
Jan-28-11 04:37 PM |
#64 |
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+1. Injustice is injustice plain and simple. n/t |
Catherina |
Jan-29-11 04:07 AM |
#125 |
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Capitalism here, Capitalism there... |
blindpig |
Jan-28-11 04:06 PM |
#28 |
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In what sense is Egypt "capitalist"? |
Recursion |
Jan-29-11 07:10 PM |
#187 |
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thank you for your concern |
fascisthunter |
Jan-28-11 04:08 PM |
#30 |
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lol. |
Starry Messenger |
Jan-28-11 04:09 PM |
#32 |
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Like DUers are going to get up from their computers. |
Starbucks Anarchist |
Jan-28-11 04:11 PM |
#34 |
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we can dream, cant we? |
spooked911 |
Jan-29-11 09:07 AM |
#160 |
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Maybe the revolution will have free wireless connectivity!!!! |
JoePhilly |
Jan-29-11 04:41 PM |
#182 |
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there you go projecting again! the last protest i went to |
jonnyblitz |
Jan-29-11 08:00 PM |
#197 |
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"It's the Tunisians' movement!" |
earthside |
Jan-28-11 04:12 PM |
#35 |
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It's almost cliche to say, but I think many on DU would find their lifestyles aren't going to be |
superduperfarleft |
Jan-28-11 04:14 PM |
#36 |
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i think you might be thinking of |
Bluerthanblue |
Jan-28-11 04:20 PM |
#42 |
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here's the link to |
Bluerthanblue |
Jan-28-11 04:23 PM |
#47 |
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Thank you. n/t |
superduperfarleft |
Jan-28-11 04:26 PM |
#53 |
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. We already read it. |
readmoreoften |
Jan-28-11 04:26 PM |
#52 |
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Oh gosh. I'm so concerned about my "lifestyle." |
readmoreoften |
Jan-28-11 04:21 PM |
#43 |
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You think that's not what a revolution looks like? |
superduperfarleft |
Jan-28-11 04:29 PM |
#56 |
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I don't "envision" revolutions because you can't account for all the contingency. |
readmoreoften |
Jan-28-11 04:42 PM |
#70 |
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Far more people would have to be in far more desperate situations than they currently are |
superduperfarleft |
Jan-28-11 04:49 PM |
#75 |
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Having a roof over your head and an internet connection is a far cry from "comfort." |
readmoreoften |
Jan-28-11 05:00 PM |
#82 |
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Again, you're having an argument that was clearly started with someone else, because I've said none |
superduperfarleft |
Jan-28-11 05:26 PM |
#87 |
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homeless people post on the internet regularly, thanks to the public libraries. |
Hannah Bell |
Jan-29-11 04:19 AM |
#131 |
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What revolutions look like depend on contingent factors. |
readmoreoften |
Jan-28-11 04:45 PM |
#71 |
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Could you be any more insulting to impoverished people in the US? |
leftstreet |
Jan-28-11 04:24 PM |
#49 |
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Yeah, I could be. But I won't. Thanks for asking! |
superduperfarleft |
Jan-28-11 04:32 PM |
#60 |
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Oh, and those masses of poor people who you claim to speak for |
superduperfarleft |
Jan-28-11 04:38 PM |
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OFFS... |
JuniperLea |
Jan-28-11 04:53 PM |
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That's not the point |
leftstreet |
Jan-28-11 09:44 PM |
#113 |
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+1,000 |
inna |
Jan-29-11 08:53 PM |
#203 |
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There's not going to be a "revolution" |
Warren DeMontague |
Jan-29-11 04:57 AM |
#136 |
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if you lose your house, your job, your pension, your health insurance, your kids' class size |
yurbud |
Jan-28-11 04:23 PM |
#46 |
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If all that happens, you should just be happy you're lucky enough to be an American... |
LooseWilly |
Jan-30-11 04:14 AM |
#224 |
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We don't NEED a civil war - YET |
EnlightenedOne |
Jan-28-11 04:33 PM |
#61 |
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agreed. they live in a dictatorship |
treestar |
Jan-28-11 04:52 PM |
#77 |
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To paraphrase Burt Lancaster in "From Here to Eternity," 99% of our erstwhile "revolutionists" here |
apocalypsehow |
Jan-28-11 05:01 PM |
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by vast majority do you mean the handful of DLCers who back capitulation to the wealthy |
yurbud |
Jan-29-11 08:29 PM |
#202 |
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LOL - laughable stuff. n/t. |
apocalypsehow |
Jan-30-11 02:44 AM |
#221 |
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Can I wish for a peaceful one? |
white_wolf |
Jan-28-11 05:04 PM |
#84 |
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KnR |
Uzybone |
Jan-28-11 05:08 PM |
#86 |
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I don't think our fore fathers were exactly living in slums |
TNLib |
Jan-28-11 06:40 PM |
#93 |
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Bullshit. The powers that be here in the U.S. won't rest until we all live in extreme poverty |
earth mom |
Jan-28-11 06:42 PM |
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"...BEFORE we DO something to stop them?" - Spell it out; what specifically would you have us do? |
apocalypsehow |
Jan-28-11 07:25 PM |
#106 |
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Are you prepared to do what might be necessary to "stop them"? Would you be willing to do it |
Godhumor |
Jan-28-11 10:12 PM |
#116 |
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Ummm, I'm looking for the thread where smug jerks gloat and tease idealistic youth... |
Bonobo |
Jan-28-11 06:46 PM |
#98 |
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No, you are still looking for "California Missile Confirmed" - two doors down the hall /nt |
jberryhill |
Jan-28-11 06:57 PM |
#100 |
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Smug jerks? I find it appalling that the "idealistic youth" would co-op the pain and suffering |
Godhumor |
Jan-28-11 09:00 PM |
#109 |
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uhhhh....well..now that you mention it... |
dtmfman |
Jan-28-11 09:10 PM |
#110 |
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Wrong. We may not be quite as bad off, but many see us |
Kalyke |
Jan-28-11 10:26 PM |
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What if the population you speak of is tired of you? n/t |
BzaDem |
Jan-29-11 06:17 AM |
#141 |
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And who are you to speak for a population? |
jotsy |
Jan-29-11 11:25 PM |
#212 |
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Disagree with some parts, agree with other parts |
NuclearDem |
Jan-29-11 04:09 AM |
#126 |
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-1 We Can't Make It Here Anymore |
Catherina |
Jan-29-11 04:13 AM |
#128 |
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Yeah, why don't you ask James McMurtry if he supports a revolution? |
Warren DeMontague |
Jan-29-11 04:55 AM |
#135 |
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You have to understand how important it is to talk big in the dorm lounge under the che poster. |
Warren DeMontague |
Jan-29-11 04:52 AM |
#133 |
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I'm almost afraid to visit DU sometimes... |
NuclearDem |
Jan-29-11 05:33 AM |
#137 |
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and also actually pretty dumb. |
quaker bill |
Jan-29-11 05:38 AM |
#138 |
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Why does a tiny subset of people think they get a revolution just because they can't get their way |
BzaDem |
Jan-29-11 06:15 AM |
#140 |
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The same logic says you're 'sticking it to the man' by breaking windows at McDonalds or Starbucks. |
Warren DeMontague |
Jan-29-11 06:37 PM |
#183 |
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Wow. DUers playing the RW "you don't KNOW what poverty is like" card. That's what was missing. |
HughBeaumont |
Jan-29-11 06:42 AM |
#142 |
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wat |
NuclearDem |
Jan-29-11 06:46 AM |
#143 |
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I'm pretty sure no one here is saying that Egypt and the US are in the same Venn diagram. |
HughBeaumont |
Jan-29-11 07:02 AM |
#146 |
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Fair enough, I see your point now. |
NuclearDem |
Jan-29-11 07:05 AM |
#147 |
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And I hope your situation gets better. |
HughBeaumont |
Jan-29-11 07:10 AM |
#148 |
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Their grievances are identical to my grievances |
Disintermedia8 |
Jan-29-11 07:22 AM |
#149 |
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Very well said. |
blindpig |
Jan-29-11 07:38 AM |
#152 |
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thanks # |
Disintermedia8 |
Jan-29-11 01:15 PM |
#162 |
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Shouldn't the people decide through elections the economic policy of the country? n/t |
BzaDem |
Jan-29-11 07:42 AM |
#153 |
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You do your thing, I'll do mine. |
Disintermedia8 |
Jan-29-11 08:16 AM |
#154 |
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Perfect response. nt |
TBF |
Jan-31-11 08:14 AM |
#234 |
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Yes, that's done a world of good for us these past three decades, really . . . |
HughBeaumont |
Jan-29-11 09:32 AM |
#161 |
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So your prefered solution is to NOT have a democracy? Because it hasn't "done a world of good?" |
BzaDem |
Jan-29-11 07:14 PM |
#189 |
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My preference is for people to wake up and see that we DON'T have one. |
HughBeaumont |
Jan-29-11 10:13 PM |
#208 |
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Just because you don't like the RESULT of an election doesn't mean we don't have democracy. |
BzaDem |
Jan-30-11 01:30 AM |
#214 |
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Just because they declare results to an election, doesn't mean they counted anything. |
TBF |
Jan-31-11 08:16 AM |
#235 |
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Perfectly stated, thanks. nt |
ipaint |
Jan-29-11 01:41 PM |
#169 |
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Speak for me anytime. n/t |
Catherina |
Jan-31-11 08:05 AM |
#233 |
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Solidarity. nt |
TBF |
Jan-31-11 08:18 AM |
#236 |
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so, what would u install instead of democracy? nt |
egressingsparrowdrop |
Jan-31-11 10:16 PM |
#240 |
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nonsense |
purrFect |
Jan-29-11 01:20 PM |
#163 |
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Sure absolutely bet. How many socialists do you think are in the US? |
Godhumor |
Jan-29-11 09:55 PM |
#207 |
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What!?!?!?!?! |
Iggo |
Jan-29-11 01:27 PM |
#164 |
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this reminds me of the Bush excuse for torture: Saddam did worse |
yurbud |
Jan-29-11 01:34 PM |
#166 |
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I can't believe this thread... |
madmom |
Jan-29-11 01:37 PM |
#168 |
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I'm sorry but your post is ridiculous |
cali |
Jan-29-11 04:33 PM |
#180 |
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I do understand the difference and it's still a stupid argument. |
madmom |
Jan-29-11 10:32 PM |
#210 |
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Cheney & Bush started a phony war in Iraq and got away with it- things R different in the US |
Imagevision |
Jan-29-11 03:31 PM |
#174 |
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I see no merit in waiting for our population to face utter deprivation and loss of natural rights |
TheKentuckian |
Jan-29-11 04:20 PM |
#179 |
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What boots on what necks? Care to be specific? |
Warren DeMontague |
Jan-29-11 06:38 PM |
#184 |
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No, its about who profits and who is powerful. |
TheKentuckian |
Jan-30-11 09:31 AM |
#226 |
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The secret police of Egypt are the same as the TSA, huh? |
NuclearDem |
Jan-29-11 07:00 PM |
#185 |
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Didn't say boo about TSA |
TheKentuckian |
Jan-30-11 09:29 AM |
#225 |
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Actually after reading this thread...makes it clear why we will never |
Desertrose |
Jan-29-11 07:28 PM |
#190 |
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thread over, please lock |
datasuspect |
Jan-29-11 07:43 PM |
#192 |
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Thanks...I tried. |
Desertrose |
Jan-29-11 07:49 PM |
#194 |
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Do you think an Egyptian protester is going to see the same situation if he or she were in the US? |
Godhumor |
Jan-29-11 09:47 PM |
#206 |
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It's not a competition. |
Desertrose |
Jan-29-11 11:59 PM |
#213 |
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Yes, and here's the reason... |
Pedalpower |
Jan-30-11 10:54 AM |
#230 |
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I don't agree. Until there is an upheavel here |
Raine |
Jan-29-11 08:04 PM |
#200 |
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this thread is insulting to intelligence, really. enough said. |
inna |
Jan-29-11 08:58 PM |
#204 |
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Yes, all the people who think with glee that the situation here is anyway resembling Egypt |
Godhumor |
Jan-29-11 09:43 PM |
#205 |
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+1 well said. n/t |
Maru Kitteh |
Jan-29-11 10:17 PM |
#209 |
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There are enough similarities to see a correlation. |
RegieRocker |
Jan-30-11 10:40 AM |
#228 |
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Correlation? The Egyptian face overwhelmingly different economic and societal differences |
Godhumor |
Jan-31-11 08:49 AM |
#237 |
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100% Dude did you miss that? |
RegieRocker |
Jan-31-11 10:12 PM |
#239 |
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Some people like revolution for the sake of revolution. n/t |
wisteria |
Jan-29-11 10:53 PM |
#211 |
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I believe Tunisia was first, it seems the entire southside of the Med is rocking. |
jotsy |
Jan-30-11 01:30 AM |
#215 |
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Won't happen unless there's a collapse of the welfare system... |
Modern_Matthew |
Jan-30-11 10:45 AM |
#229 |
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"welfare system" is a RW term. just sayin', FYI. |
inna |
Jan-31-11 06:41 PM |
#238 |