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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 06:03 PM
Response to Reply #46
47. Neither are cigarettes, theoretically
But we know how that turns out.

I'm still not sure how I feel about them. They 'model' smoking, while nicotine gum just models gum chewing. Peer pressure is a principle reason kids take up smoking, I don't see how this e-cigarette does anything to discourage that.
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  -New York Considers E-Cigarette Ban coti  Jan-26-11 03:01 PM   #0 
  - Ugh...  JonLP24   Jan-26-11 03:03 PM   #1 
  - Vape on.  coti   Jan-26-11 03:04 PM   #3 
  - Idiots. Criminalizing harm reduction is absurd.  Lance_Boyle   Jan-26-11 03:03 PM   #2 
  - Totally agreed. This is about control and money. And education.  coti   Jan-26-11 03:08 PM   #6 
  - That's just foolish! Lots of people use e-cigs to stop smoking.  napi21   Jan-26-11 03:05 PM   #4 
  - That's the problem.  name not needed   Jan-26-11 03:32 PM   #12 
     - Ig=h for god sake! You can't win with hese people! nt  napi21   Jan-26-11 04:19 PM   #29 
  - Think of the children.  ohheckyeah   Jan-26-11 03:07 PM   #5 
  - That's probably the most pernicious way they're going after e-cigs.  Lance_Boyle   Jan-26-11 03:12 PM   #9 
  - Blueberry is my favorite  True_Blue   Jan-27-11 01:09 AM   #68 
  - More like...think of their (read: politicans) children.  Jkid   Jan-26-11 05:58 PM   #45 
  - Just trying to protect their tax revenues on real cigarettes  madville   Jan-26-11 03:10 PM   #7 
  - Ding, ding, ding, we have a winner  Fla_Democrat   Jan-26-11 06:08 PM   #49 
  - Blah! Who can trust anyone anymore? Big Pharma?  Bryn   Jan-26-11 03:12 PM   #8 
  - This is trivial and rediculous ...  Newest Reality   Jan-26-11 03:12 PM   #10 
  - Dictators  Ter   Jan-26-11 03:30 PM   #11 
  - Exactly. This is the sort of authoritarian shit that gives Dems and government a bad name.  TheWraith   Jan-26-11 03:59 PM   #18 
  - The tea party does exactly the same thing.  krabigirl   Jan-26-11 04:04 PM   #24 
  - E-Cigarettes Actually helped me kick the habit altogether!  William769   Jan-26-11 03:40 PM   #13 
  - Me too. 6 months for me. After, 40 years of smoking.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Jan-26-11 03:51 PM   #17 
  - That's great  Mosby   Jan-26-11 04:27 PM   #30 
  - I started the E-cig the day after Thanksgiving  alittlelark   Jan-26-11 04:07 PM   #25 
  - Does that also include the E-Cigarette?  William769   Jan-26-11 04:12 PM   #28 
  - Congratulations! I'm using the nicorette gum, myself (eom)  StevieM   Jan-26-11 10:25 PM   #57 
  - Should not be banned.  Atypical Liberal   Jan-26-11 03:45 PM   #14 
  - Puritanical dislike of the way they LOOK. And little more than that.  Matariki   Jan-26-11 03:48 PM   #15 
  - Why is it that politicians, especially Democrats, love banning items?  spin   Jan-26-11 03:48 PM   #16 
  - Because they think that the state should be able to tell you what you can or cannot consume.  krabigirl   Jan-26-11 04:02 PM   #22 
     - "Oh say does that star spangled banner yet wave...  FiveGoodMen   Jan-26-11 04:49 PM   #32 
  - Nanny state authoritarians are just as harmful as the usual Reich wing variety  TheKentuckian   Jan-26-11 04:00 PM   #19 
  - Nanny-Statists SUCK.  Odin2005   Jan-26-11 04:00 PM   #20 
  - Been vaping for a while  jberryhill   Jan-26-11 04:00 PM   #21 
  - Ridiculous nanny state crap that will fail. People will buy them anyway, and they should.  krabigirl   Jan-26-11 04:04 PM   #23 
  - Idiotic. (the ban)  DirkGently   Jan-26-11 04:10 PM   #26 
  - As a life-long anti-smoker, this strikes me as plain stupid.  eppur_se_muova   Jan-26-11 04:11 PM   #27 
  - there are still studies that need to be done - but so far the research points to the e-cigs  cbdo2007   Jan-26-11 04:32 PM   #31 
  - Oh for fucks sake  ohheckyeah   Jan-26-11 11:01 PM   #64 
     - Yes, someone blowing smoke or vapor in your face is very intrusive.  cbdo2007   Jan-27-11 08:48 AM   #70 
  - I'm not clear on how these things work  customerserviceguy   Jan-26-11 04:57 PM   #33 
  - From what I'm told, it is all water vapor  TK421   Jan-26-11 05:01 PM   #34 
  - Hopefully this will answer your question.  William769   Jan-26-11 05:07 PM   #35 
  - Thanks, I appreciate that  customerserviceguy   Jan-26-11 05:52 PM   #41 
  - They contain a liquid nicotine solution.  Starbucks Anarchist   Jan-26-11 05:07 PM   #36 
  - But it is a nicotine delivery system  customerserviceguy   Jan-26-11 05:54 PM   #42 
  - They're not marketed towards non-smokers.  Starbucks Anarchist   Jan-26-11 05:58 PM   #46 
  - Neither are cigarettes, theoretically  customerserviceguy   Jan-26-11 06:03 PM   #47 
     - It's about harm reduction. Think birth control.  coti   Jan-26-11 06:21 PM   #52 
     - Good example  customerserviceguy   Jan-26-11 09:50 PM   #54 
        - You got it exactly. nt  coti   Jan-26-11 10:49 PM   #62 
     - There comes a point where "What about the children?" needs to stop.  Starbucks Anarchist   Jan-26-11 06:45 PM   #53 
        - Agreed, but if nicotine is a drug  customerserviceguy   Jan-26-11 09:53 PM   #55 
  - Tobacco products and gum are regulated differently  JonLP24   Jan-26-11 06:16 PM   #51 
  - Do you really think a kid is going to buy a $100 e-cig starter kit than a $5 pack of regular cigs?  Doremus   Jan-26-11 10:31 PM   #58 
     - OK, I had no idea how much they cost  customerserviceguy   Jan-26-11 10:38 PM   #60 
        - There are a variety of prices, but all are more than the cost of a pack of cigs.  Doremus   Jan-26-11 10:53 PM   #63 
           - The kits are expensive  True_Blue   Jan-27-11 01:03 AM   #67 
  - They *may* contain nicotine. You can also fill them with 0% nicotine juice. nt  greyl   Jan-26-11 10:47 PM   #61 
  - I use an e-cig and use the drip method  Digit   Jan-29-11 12:23 AM   #79 
  - Nicotine  JonLP24   Jan-26-11 05:47 PM   #39 
     - If the juices are non-addictive  customerserviceguy   Jan-26-11 05:56 PM   #43 
     - Propylene Glycol and/or Vegetable Glycerine are the main ingredients of all e-cig juice.  greyl   Jan-26-11 11:02 PM   #65 
  - More info on E-cigarettes please?  Ratty   Jan-26-11 05:40 PM   #37 
  - Here's what I use.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Jan-26-11 05:44 PM   #38 
  - Some beginner info on e-cig models:  coti   Jan-26-11 05:56 PM   #44 
  - I have eGos and others like the eGo. Riva and VGO and they're fabulous. As a former  OmmmSweetOmmm   Jan-27-11 10:27 AM   #71 
  - Youtube!  Ratty   Jan-27-11 10:56 AM   #73 
  - You're welcome.  coti   Jan-28-11 10:47 PM   #77 
  - Yep, I did a ton of reading to come to this conclusion  Digit   Jan-29-11 12:28 AM   #80 
  - Where are you located?  Michigan-Arizona   Jan-26-11 06:04 PM   #48 
  - Please read this post if mine. I think it will help.  OmmmSweetOmmm   Jan-27-11 10:35 AM   #72 
     - Outstanding thread  Ratty   Jan-27-11 11:07 AM   #74 
     - Thanks Ratty and of course I wish you the best of luck! :)  OmmmSweetOmmm   Jan-27-11 01:19 PM   #75 
     - I remembered seeing your post when I began researching them.  coti   Jan-28-11 10:53 PM   #78 
  - Banners gonna ban, haters gonna hate - me, will stick with YOUR body, your choice  The Straight Story   Jan-26-11 05:50 PM   #40 
  - yeesh n/t  fishwax   Jan-26-11 06:15 PM   #50 
  - Genius  krispos42   Jan-26-11 10:14 PM   #56 
  - I was able to quit a 30+year 3 pack a day smoking habit with e-cigs.  Doremus   Jan-26-11 10:34 PM   #59 
  - On the bright side, FDA Loses Second Court Battle over E-Cigarettes  chill_wind   Jan-27-11 12:00 AM   #66 
  - In NY. 5 months yesterday smoke-free after 43 yrs, 3 packs a day. Ecigs did it for me.  OmmmSweetOmmm   Jan-27-11 08:13 AM   #69 
  - I can see a ban on white ones, but not an overall ban  jmowreader   Jan-27-11 04:57 PM   #76 
  - What is it with New Yorkers?  kudzu22   Jan-29-11 12:40 AM   #81 

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