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10. This is trivial and rediculous ...
as if New York doesn't have any other, far more important and pressing issues other than wasting time deciding what people can't do.

Fuck. Enough bullshit control.

Oh, wait, could the electronic cigarettes be impacting the tobacco industry and their lobbyists? I remember when they passed a 2000-percent tax on bulk cigarette tobacco not long ago. A small industry was growing around bulk, tubes and machines that would allow a smoker to cut their cost down to about 85-cents a pack. Plus, you could smoke untreated, natural tobacco if you wanted to.

So, despite the evangelical, anti-smoking crowd, there is a product and a consumer of it. If I could afford it, I would love to "vape" again, as I have tried it and it is easier on the membranes and lungs and doesn't stink-up your clothing and environment. You can vape them anywhere, (even with the false coughs of those ex-smokers who think your vapor is deadly smoke) and your sense of smell and taste gets better, as well. Win-win.
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  -New York Considers E-Cigarette Ban coti  Jan-26-11 03:01 PM   #0 
  - Ugh...  JonLP24   Jan-26-11 03:03 PM   #1 
  - Vape on.  coti   Jan-26-11 03:04 PM   #3 
  - Idiots. Criminalizing harm reduction is absurd.  Lance_Boyle   Jan-26-11 03:03 PM   #2 
  - Totally agreed. This is about control and money. And education.  coti   Jan-26-11 03:08 PM   #6 
  - That's just foolish! Lots of people use e-cigs to stop smoking.  napi21   Jan-26-11 03:05 PM   #4 
  - That's the problem.  name not needed   Jan-26-11 03:32 PM   #12 
     - Ig=h for god sake! You can't win with hese people! nt  napi21   Jan-26-11 04:19 PM   #29 
  - Think of the children.  ohheckyeah   Jan-26-11 03:07 PM   #5 
  - That's probably the most pernicious way they're going after e-cigs.  Lance_Boyle   Jan-26-11 03:12 PM   #9 
  - Blueberry is my favorite  True_Blue   Jan-27-11 01:09 AM   #68 
  - More like...think of their (read: politicans) children.  Jkid   Jan-26-11 05:58 PM   #45 
  - Just trying to protect their tax revenues on real cigarettes  madville   Jan-26-11 03:10 PM   #7 
  - Ding, ding, ding, we have a winner  Fla_Democrat   Jan-26-11 06:08 PM   #49 
  - Blah! Who can trust anyone anymore? Big Pharma?  Bryn   Jan-26-11 03:12 PM   #8 
  - This is trivial and rediculous ...  Newest Reality   Jan-26-11 03:12 PM   #10 
  - Dictators  Ter   Jan-26-11 03:30 PM   #11 
  - Exactly. This is the sort of authoritarian shit that gives Dems and government a bad name.  TheWraith   Jan-26-11 03:59 PM   #18 
  - The tea party does exactly the same thing.  krabigirl   Jan-26-11 04:04 PM   #24 
  - E-Cigarettes Actually helped me kick the habit altogether!  William769   Jan-26-11 03:40 PM   #13 
  - Me too. 6 months for me. After, 40 years of smoking.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Jan-26-11 03:51 PM   #17 
  - That's great  Mosby   Jan-26-11 04:27 PM   #30 
  - I started the E-cig the day after Thanksgiving  alittlelark   Jan-26-11 04:07 PM   #25 
  - Does that also include the E-Cigarette?  William769   Jan-26-11 04:12 PM   #28 
  - Congratulations! I'm using the nicorette gum, myself (eom)  StevieM   Jan-26-11 10:25 PM   #57 
  - Should not be banned.  Atypical Liberal   Jan-26-11 03:45 PM   #14 
  - Puritanical dislike of the way they LOOK. And little more than that.  Matariki   Jan-26-11 03:48 PM   #15 
  - Why is it that politicians, especially Democrats, love banning items?  spin   Jan-26-11 03:48 PM   #16 
  - Because they think that the state should be able to tell you what you can or cannot consume.  krabigirl   Jan-26-11 04:02 PM   #22 
     - "Oh say does that star spangled banner yet wave...  FiveGoodMen   Jan-26-11 04:49 PM   #32 
  - Nanny state authoritarians are just as harmful as the usual Reich wing variety  TheKentuckian   Jan-26-11 04:00 PM   #19 
  - Nanny-Statists SUCK.  Odin2005   Jan-26-11 04:00 PM   #20 
  - Been vaping for a while  jberryhill   Jan-26-11 04:00 PM   #21 
  - Ridiculous nanny state crap that will fail. People will buy them anyway, and they should.  krabigirl   Jan-26-11 04:04 PM   #23 
  - Idiotic. (the ban)  DirkGently   Jan-26-11 04:10 PM   #26 
  - As a life-long anti-smoker, this strikes me as plain stupid.  eppur_se_muova   Jan-26-11 04:11 PM   #27 
  - there are still studies that need to be done - but so far the research points to the e-cigs  cbdo2007   Jan-26-11 04:32 PM   #31 
  - Oh for fucks sake  ohheckyeah   Jan-26-11 11:01 PM   #64 
     - Yes, someone blowing smoke or vapor in your face is very intrusive.  cbdo2007   Jan-27-11 08:48 AM   #70 
  - I'm not clear on how these things work  customerserviceguy   Jan-26-11 04:57 PM   #33 
  - From what I'm told, it is all water vapor  TK421   Jan-26-11 05:01 PM   #34 
  - Hopefully this will answer your question.  William769   Jan-26-11 05:07 PM   #35 
  - Thanks, I appreciate that  customerserviceguy   Jan-26-11 05:52 PM   #41 
  - They contain a liquid nicotine solution.  Starbucks Anarchist   Jan-26-11 05:07 PM   #36 
  - But it is a nicotine delivery system  customerserviceguy   Jan-26-11 05:54 PM   #42 
  - They're not marketed towards non-smokers.  Starbucks Anarchist   Jan-26-11 05:58 PM   #46 
  - Neither are cigarettes, theoretically  customerserviceguy   Jan-26-11 06:03 PM   #47 
     - It's about harm reduction. Think birth control.  coti   Jan-26-11 06:21 PM   #52 
     - Good example  customerserviceguy   Jan-26-11 09:50 PM   #54 
        - You got it exactly. nt  coti   Jan-26-11 10:49 PM   #62 
     - There comes a point where "What about the children?" needs to stop.  Starbucks Anarchist   Jan-26-11 06:45 PM   #53 
        - Agreed, but if nicotine is a drug  customerserviceguy   Jan-26-11 09:53 PM   #55 
  - Tobacco products and gum are regulated differently  JonLP24   Jan-26-11 06:16 PM   #51 
  - Do you really think a kid is going to buy a $100 e-cig starter kit than a $5 pack of regular cigs?  Doremus   Jan-26-11 10:31 PM   #58 
     - OK, I had no idea how much they cost  customerserviceguy   Jan-26-11 10:38 PM   #60 
        - There are a variety of prices, but all are more than the cost of a pack of cigs.  Doremus   Jan-26-11 10:53 PM   #63 
           - The kits are expensive  True_Blue   Jan-27-11 01:03 AM   #67 
  - They *may* contain nicotine. You can also fill them with 0% nicotine juice. nt  greyl   Jan-26-11 10:47 PM   #61 
  - I use an e-cig and use the drip method  Digit   Jan-29-11 12:23 AM   #79 
  - Nicotine  JonLP24   Jan-26-11 05:47 PM   #39 
     - If the juices are non-addictive  customerserviceguy   Jan-26-11 05:56 PM   #43 
     - Propylene Glycol and/or Vegetable Glycerine are the main ingredients of all e-cig juice.  greyl   Jan-26-11 11:02 PM   #65 
  - More info on E-cigarettes please?  Ratty   Jan-26-11 05:40 PM   #37 
  - Here's what I use.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Jan-26-11 05:44 PM   #38 
  - Some beginner info on e-cig models:  coti   Jan-26-11 05:56 PM   #44 
  - I have eGos and others like the eGo. Riva and VGO and they're fabulous. As a former  OmmmSweetOmmm   Jan-27-11 10:27 AM   #71 
  - Youtube!  Ratty   Jan-27-11 10:56 AM   #73 
  - You're welcome.  coti   Jan-28-11 10:47 PM   #77 
  - Yep, I did a ton of reading to come to this conclusion  Digit   Jan-29-11 12:28 AM   #80 
  - Where are you located?  Michigan-Arizona   Jan-26-11 06:04 PM   #48 
  - Please read this post if mine. I think it will help.  OmmmSweetOmmm   Jan-27-11 10:35 AM   #72 
     - Outstanding thread  Ratty   Jan-27-11 11:07 AM   #74 
     - Thanks Ratty and of course I wish you the best of luck! :)  OmmmSweetOmmm   Jan-27-11 01:19 PM   #75 
     - I remembered seeing your post when I began researching them.  coti   Jan-28-11 10:53 PM   #78 
  - Banners gonna ban, haters gonna hate - me, will stick with YOUR body, your choice  The Straight Story   Jan-26-11 05:50 PM   #40 
  - yeesh n/t  fishwax   Jan-26-11 06:15 PM   #50 
  - Genius  krispos42   Jan-26-11 10:14 PM   #56 
  - I was able to quit a 30+year 3 pack a day smoking habit with e-cigs.  Doremus   Jan-26-11 10:34 PM   #59 
  - On the bright side, FDA Loses Second Court Battle over E-Cigarettes  chill_wind   Jan-27-11 12:00 AM   #66 
  - In NY. 5 months yesterday smoke-free after 43 yrs, 3 packs a day. Ecigs did it for me.  OmmmSweetOmmm   Jan-27-11 08:13 AM   #69 
  - I can see a ban on white ones, but not an overall ban  jmowreader   Jan-27-11 04:57 PM   #76 
  - What is it with New Yorkers?  kudzu22   Jan-29-11 12:40 AM   #81 

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