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superduperfarleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 05:06 PM
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42. There are people arguing in this very thread that those bans should be lifted. n/t
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  -Proposed. Advertisers should have unlimited rights to target children. JackRiddler  Dec-17-10 10:14 AM   #0 
  - You mean like the parents do? (nt)  The Straight Story   Dec-17-10 10:15 AM   #1 
  - If I may check what you mean by that...  JackRiddler   Dec-17-10 10:25 AM   #2 
  - Proposed by who?  sinkingfeeling   Dec-17-10 10:29 AM   #3 
  - Proposed by me.  JackRiddler   Dec-17-10 10:36 AM   #5 
  - smoke up, Johnny!  rucky   Dec-17-10 10:31 AM   #4 
  - Sigh  blogslut   Dec-17-10 11:15 AM   #6 
  - That was a rhetorical version of the same point from someone else.  JackRiddler   Dec-17-10 01:13 PM   #7 
  - I agree 100%  Llewlladdwr   Dec-17-10 01:22 PM   #8 
  - And what if the parents abdicate that responsibility, as so many of them seem to do?  superduperfarleft   Dec-17-10 01:24 PM   #9 
  - Then they're bad parents. NT  Llewlladdwr   Dec-17-10 01:40 PM   #11 
  - So what does that mean practically for the kid? n/t  superduperfarleft   Dec-17-10 01:42 PM   #12 
  - That they have crappy parents and will probably suffer for it.  Llewlladdwr   Dec-17-10 01:51 PM   #15 
     - "Why not just have the State take over childrearing completely instead?"  superduperfarleft   Dec-17-10 02:37 PM   #25 
        - Because that doesn't solve the problem.  Llewlladdwr   Dec-17-10 02:45 PM   #27 
        - I think you're missing my point.  superduperfarleft   Dec-17-10 05:10 PM   #43 
        - there's already a ban on marketing cigs & booze to kids nt  WolverineDG   Dec-17-10 04:30 PM   #36 
           - There are people arguing in this very thread that those bans should be lifted. n/t  superduperfarleft   Dec-17-10 05:06 PM   #42 
  - Then, according to you, the vast majority of U.S. parents are bad parents.  Luminous Animal   Dec-17-10 02:31 PM   #22 
     - You hit the nail on the head.  Llewlladdwr   Dec-17-10 02:40 PM   #26 
     - So, then we do nothing and put the burden on the least able to defend themselves...  Luminous Animal   Dec-17-10 02:47 PM   #28 
        - Why does doing something that doesn't solve, or even address the actual problem...  Llewlladdwr   Dec-17-10 02:52 PM   #29 
        - And people were using lead paint for decades before the government made selling it illegal.  Luminous Animal   Dec-17-10 04:21 PM   #35 
        - You know, luminous, it's the parents' fault...  JackRiddler   Dec-17-10 07:04 PM   #44 
           - I have to wonder at the negative attitude that people have towards their fellow citizens.  Luminous Animal   Dec-17-10 08:06 PM   #46 
           - They do what parents have done from time immemorial  WolverineDG   Dec-17-10 08:55 PM   #49 
     - If they are unwilling or too lazy to say "no"  WolverineDG   Dec-17-10 04:31 PM   #37 
  - There are steps  Mz Pip   Dec-17-10 02:23 PM   #20 
     - Why is advertising aimed at kids given the privilege of being "one of many things parents"  JackRiddler   Dec-17-10 03:27 PM   #32 
        - Privilege?  Mz Pip   Dec-17-10 03:40 PM   #34 
           - Who decides, indeed...  JackRiddler   Dec-17-10 04:56 PM   #39 
  - Commercial speech is not free speech.  JackRiddler   Dec-17-10 01:36 PM   #10 
     - I certainly agree that one should not be able to lie or misrepresent...  Llewlladdwr   Dec-17-10 01:48 PM   #14 
        - Are Ronald McDonald and Mayor McCheese accurate descriptions of McDonald's products?  JackRiddler   Dec-17-10 02:00 PM   #17 
           - Are you suggesting that companies should not be allowed to use mascots in their advertising?  Llewlladdwr   Dec-17-10 02:29 PM   #21 
              - No. Commercial enterprises shouldn't be allowed to advertise to children.  JackRiddler   Dec-17-10 03:24 PM   #31 
  - Disagree. Your approach is merely punitive toward parents.  TexasObserver   Dec-17-10 01:44 PM   #13 
  - But again, resticting advertising isn't going to make irresponsible parents better.  Llewlladdwr   Dec-17-10 01:55 PM   #16 
  - It doesn't have to. The goal is restricting the marketers.  TexasObserver   Dec-17-10 02:16 PM   #19 
  - But won't the kids just go somewhere else for their sugar fix?  Llewlladdwr   Dec-17-10 02:35 PM   #24 
     - No.  TexasObserver   Dec-17-10 02:53 PM   #30 
        - Good and accurate answer.  Luminous Animal   Dec-17-10 08:14 PM   #47 
           - Another thing people often dismiss out of hand is social science findings...  JackRiddler   Dec-18-10 10:26 AM   #53 
  - spot on. n/t  Scout   Dec-17-10 02:34 PM   #23 
  - (Pssst... I agree with you. It's a "proposal" in the sense...)  JackRiddler   Dec-17-10 02:02 PM   #18 
  - Intruguing  guitar man   Dec-17-10 03:34 PM   #33 
  - Actually, it's a "modest proposal"  JackRiddler   Dec-17-10 04:52 PM   #38 
     - Damn  guitar man   Dec-17-10 04:57 PM   #40 
  - Interesting. I have heard that "second-hand advertising" can kill children.  madinmaryland   Dec-17-10 05:05 PM   #41 
  - Yes, Yes, Yes, No.  Warren DeMontague   Dec-17-10 07:06 PM   #45 
  - Can anyone support my rec that brings this thread to +1 after 47 replies?  Karenina   Dec-17-10 08:53 PM   #48 
  - Strawman. Happy Meals are not comparable to TV ads ained at kids.  Odin2005   Dec-17-10 09:30 PM   #50 
  - I don't understand. Happy Meals are a promotional action.  JackRiddler   Dec-17-10 10:35 PM   #51 
     - The parent does not have to buy the Happy Meal.  Odin2005   Dec-18-10 11:29 AM   #54 
  - k  JackRiddler   Dec-18-10 10:24 AM   #52 
     - & k  JackRiddler   Dec-19-10 09:52 AM   #55 

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