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Ignis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-11 01:23 PM
Response to Reply #192
195. For you, perhaps. For others, it's quite common to "grade on the curve."
Just because you create a false dichotomy doesn't mean that others are forced to play along. :hi:
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  -Is this as bad as I think it is? WilliamPitt  Jan-25-11 08:57 PM   #0 
  - Sure sounds like it  sixmile   Jan-25-11 08:59 PM   #1 
  - I'm  BobbyBoring   Jan-26-11 10:32 AM   #175 
  - Worse.  Dappleganger   Jan-25-11 09:00 PM   #2 
  - at least those who support him no matter what  RainDog   Jan-25-11 09:00 PM   #5 
     - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Jan-25-11 09:11 PM   #47 
  - Yup.Bone to the left. Bone to the right. Bone to the center. Rinse. Repeat.  MichiganVote   Jan-25-11 09:00 PM   #3 
  - Great post.  bigwillq   Jan-25-11 09:01 PM   #8 
  - I may not agree with all/Obama. But that was a lamo beginning if ever there was one  MichiganVote   Jan-25-11 09:03 PM   # 
     - Not watching.  bigwillq   Jan-25-11 09:04 PM   #22 
  - agreed , but this is why I liked it  proud patriot   Jan-25-11 09:30 PM   # 
  - Did you like the speech because it  Autumn   Jan-26-11 01:59 PM   #214 
  - X2!  True_Blue   Jan-25-11 11:24 PM   #113 
  - I seem to remember JI Case laying off my dad in 1984 or so...  PVnRT   Jan-26-11 08:25 AM   #157 
  - My take as well  TomClash   Jan-25-11 09:00 PM   #4 
  - Best speech by a Republican I've heard for a while. eom  Hello_Kitty   Jan-25-11 09:01 PM   #6 
  - Are you crazy. He is doing great. What are you listening to??  Pisces   Jan-25-11 09:01 PM   #7 
  - He hasn't lit the podium on fire or thrown up or anything  WilliamPitt   Jan-25-11 09:01 PM   #10 
     - Thanks Pitt.  freshwest   Jan-25-11 10:00 PM   #97 
     - Obama gets plenty of credit, from the right.  sabrina 1   Jan-26-11 02:29 AM   #128 
     - Don't forget, Ben Stein suggested Obama run on the repub ticket.  CrispyQ   Jan-26-11 10:17 AM   #172 
     - Nice post, captures most of my sentiments as well. +1. n/t  catzies   Jan-26-11 02:27 PM   #226 
     - Consider all the things he didn't mention ....  defendandprotect   Jan-26-11 01:41 PM   #205 
  - Horrible.  rug   Jan-25-11 09:01 PM   #9 
  - we heard that before  bdamomma   Jan-25-11 09:04 PM   #20 
  - What do you want him to say?  BlueDemKev   Jan-25-11 09:05 PM   #25 
  - (facepalm)  WilliamPitt   Jan-25-11 09:06 PM   #34 
  - "We will stop killing you."  rug   Jan-25-11 09:07 PM   #37 
  - Oh, brother  BlueDemKev   Jan-25-11 09:12 PM   #51 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-25-11 09:14 PM   #58 
     - Yes  sixmile   Jan-25-11 09:19 PM   #67 
     - Are you serious?  BlueDemKev   Jan-26-11 08:17 AM   #155 
        - There is absolutely  H2O Man   Jan-26-11 10:41 AM   #179 
        - Taliban's "Role"  BlueDemKev   Jan-27-11 07:49 PM   #304 
        - -1  SammyWinstonJack   Jan-26-11 10:59 AM   #181 
        - delete  H2O Man   Jan-26-11 01:34 PM   #201 
        - We funded and created the Taliban, you know. We used to call them Freedom Fighters.  PassingFair   Jan-26-11 01:38 PM   #202 
        - Karma. nt  Enthusiast   Jan-26-11 04:21 PM   # 
        - We supported the opposition  BlueDemKev   Jan-27-11 07:55 PM   #306 
        - YOu need to stop smoking  abelenkpe   Jan-26-11 03:43 PM   #239 
        - It has not been cost effective.  Enthusiast   Jan-26-11 04:20 PM   #252 
        - I do not see how we can force or persuade these people to change their whole culture.  northoftheborder   Jan-26-11 04:46 PM   #262 
        - "You guys"?  rug   Jan-26-11 04:50 PM   #264 
        - There are women all over the world being abused horribly. Do you  juajen   Jan-26-11 06:58 PM   #280 
        - Of course not, we should just plan on staying there FOREVER!  sad sally   Jan-26-11 10:20 PM   #299 
     - Who gives a rats ass  pscot   Jan-25-11 09:47 PM   #91 
        - I won't even dignify that with a response  BlueDemKev   Jan-26-11 08:18 AM   #156 
        - But you did.  H2O Man   Jan-26-11 10:42 AM   #180 
        - Aren't many  femrap   Jan-26-11 11:36 AM   #186 
        - Don't forget the trillion dollar mineral deposits... n/t  Kermitt Gribble   Jan-26-11 12:45 PM   #189 
        - Plus fucking one! nt  Enthusiast   Jan-26-11 04:22 PM   #254 
  - There are, of course,  H2O Man   Jan-26-11 10:36 AM   #177 
  - Defeat who? For WHAT???  Lorien   Jan-25-11 09:13 PM   #52 
     - Yes, that was only one of the statements that had me going, Whaaa??  truth2power   Jan-26-11 05:37 AM   #139 
  - You're pretty much correct.  Danger Mouse   Jan-25-11 09:01 PM   #11 
  - He musta told the speechwriter  notesdev   Jan-25-11 09:02 PM   #12 
  - BWAH!  kath   Jan-25-11 09:14 PM   #57 
  - of the 80 minutes of the speech  notesdev   Jan-25-11 09:30 PM   #79 
  - +1.  Dawgs   Jan-26-11 08:06 AM   #153 
  - They are playing "Our Gang" on Turner Classic Movies!  progressoid   Jan-25-11 09:02 PM   #13 
  - I'm there!  sixmile   Jan-25-11 09:03 PM   #18 
  - I can't believe Buckwheat and Spanky fought for the Confederacy!  JVS   Jan-26-11 05:24 AM   #137 
  - "excellent Republican speech"---you should inform the Republicans  NYC Liberal   Jan-25-11 09:03 PM   #14 
  - That's to be expected -  comsymp   Jan-25-11 09:04 PM   #24 
  - Yes it is to be expected, because Obama is a liberal Democrat.  NYC Liberal   Jan-25-11 09:06 PM   #32 
  - Obama's a LIBERAL!!!???  comsymp   Jan-25-11 09:10 PM   #43 
  - ZOMG someone isn't AS liberal as you are, therefore  NYC Liberal   Jan-25-11 09:15 PM   #61 
     - Yeah, that's what I'm saying  comsymp   Jan-25-11 09:22 PM   #70 
     - I guess the 88% of liberal Democrats who  NYC Liberal   Jan-25-11 09:26 PM   #74 
     - Oh stop it. No one believes that made up piece of Bullshit  Lorien   Jan-25-11 09:29 PM   #78 
     - + 1 zillion  MissDeeds   Jan-25-11 10:08 PM   #101 
     - Before you embarass yourself further, you should go to Gallup.com. n/t  BzaDem   Jan-26-11 05:57 PM   #274 
     - I haven't seen those numbers - citation pls?  comsymp   Jan-25-11 09:33 PM   #82 
     - Here:  NYC Liberal   Jan-25-11 09:38 PM   #87 
        - Thank you - hadn't seen that poll  comsymp   Jan-25-11 10:32 PM   #106 
        - All this after Republican talking heads  Enthusiast   Jan-26-11 04:31 PM   #257 
        - Thanks  tavalon   Jan-26-11 04:17 PM   # 
     - that's what i'm saying.  tomp   Jan-26-11 06:04 AM   #145 
     - Don't thow numbers like that out without a credible citation  tavalon   Jan-26-11 04:15 PM   #249 
        - .  NYC Liberal   Jan-26-11 08:06 PM   #288 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-25-11 09:28 PM   #76 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-26-11 03:00 AM   #131 
     - Still better than Palin!!!  freshwest   Jan-25-11 10:09 PM   #103 
        - So was Nixon  comsymp   Jan-25-11 10:36 PM   #107 
        - Desperation makes strange bedfellows.  freshwest   Jan-26-11 12:20 AM   #126 
        - Well that certainly is a ringing endorsement of the Obama Administration.  SammyWinstonJack   Jan-26-11 11:06 AM   #183 
     - kudos for an amusing word, but demerits for reading comprehension  tavalon   Jan-26-11 04:14 PM   #248 
  - Haaaahahaha.  progressoid   Jan-25-11 09:12 PM   #50 
  - 110% serious.  NYC Liberal   Jan-25-11 09:17 PM   #65 
     - support him compared to what?  paulk   Jan-25-11 11:17 PM   #112 
        - Support him, as in, think he's doing a good job.  NYC Liberal   Jan-26-11 12:18 AM   #125 
           - of course supporting someone is a "relative" issue  paulk   Jan-26-11 08:06 AM   #154 
           - No, support as in "think he is doing a good job." That's what an 'approval rating' is.  NYC Liberal   Jan-26-11 09:05 AM   #165 
              - thanks for clearing that up  paulk   Jan-26-11 12:21 PM   #188 
                 - Approval ratings are a yes or no question.  NYC Liberal   Jan-26-11 01:15 PM   #193 
           - "Supporting someone isn't a relative issue. You support them or you don't."  Ignis   Jan-26-11 12:58 PM   #190 
              - Support of someone is not relative.  NYC Liberal   Jan-26-11 01:12 PM   #192 
                 - For you, perhaps. For others, it's quite common to "grade on the curve."  Ignis   Jan-26-11 01:23 PM   #195 
                    - I just happen to agree with the 88% of Liberal Democrats  NYC Liberal   Jan-26-11 01:28 PM   #197 
                       - Keep weilding that poll number like a crucifix.  Ignis   Jan-26-11 03:15 PM   #234 
                          - The trouble is, I see positive and negative.  NYC Liberal   Jan-26-11 03:40 PM   #238 
                             - So we've gone from "with us or against us" to "some people say," eh?  Ignis   Jan-27-11 01:48 PM   #301 
  - "Obama is a liberal democrat"?...No, Franklin Roosevlet was a liberal democrat...  whathehell   Jan-26-11 08:41 AM   #161 
  - Or the Republican cap-and-trade plan  PVnRT   Jan-26-11 08:28 AM   #158 
  - Are we watching the same speech?  sixmile   Jan-25-11 09:06 PM   #35 
  - Cutting the oil subsidies must have made them sweat, LOL!  freshwest   Jan-25-11 10:04 PM   #99 
  - What a humongous frickin' disappointment this man is.  kath   Jan-25-11 09:03 PM   # 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-25-11 09:06 PM   #33 
  - He certainly is.  emilyg   Jan-25-11 09:22 PM   #69 
  - I feel like I'm on a sinking ship!  Greybnk48   Jan-25-11 09:03 PM   #15 
  - Agreed...Sigh n/t  OhioChick   Jan-25-11 09:03 PM   #16 
  - remember liberal-east coast republicans?  madrchsod   Jan-25-11 09:03 PM   #17 
  - No, they died before I was born  BlueDemKev   Jan-25-11 09:06 PM   #31 
     - today they'd be Democrats  paulk   Jan-26-11 09:45 PM   #296 
        - Yeah, especially Abe Lincoln  BlueDemKev   Jan-27-11 07:40 PM   #302 
  - So, why does Boner not like it.  tabatha   Jan-25-11 09:03 PM   #19 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-25-11 09:04 PM   #21 
     - Well, why did Howard Dean like it?  tabatha   Jan-25-11 09:08 PM   #38 
        - If Dean and Cenk find good things there, I'll read it again.  freshwest   Jan-25-11 10:07 PM   #100 
  - It is certainly not inspiring.  Autumn   Jan-25-11 09:04 PM   #23 
  - Wow - I just had 4 shots of Crown Royal!  CLANG   Jan-26-11 05:36 PM   #272 
  - Talking about investing in Education, Infrastructure, and Green Initiatives?  Thrill   Jan-25-11 09:05 PM   #26 
  - Those were the belly-rubs  WilliamPitt   Jan-25-11 09:05 PM   #29 
  - Other 80%  Carni   Jan-26-11 04:11 PM   #247 
  - Yup.  obxhead   Jan-25-11 09:10 PM   #42 
     - And have we ever seen action on any of those?  Lorien   Jan-25-11 09:15 PM   #60 
        - As far as the alternative energy, I've seen a lot and been posting on it all year elsewhere.  freshwest   Jan-25-11 10:21 PM   #104 
        - +1  Fearless   Jan-26-11 03:31 PM   #237 
  - You're Insane...  WillyT   Jan-25-11 09:05 PM   #27 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-25-11 09:05 PM   #28 
  - Shallow and lackluster.  Kurovski   Jan-25-11 09:05 PM   #30 
  - Embracing and frenching the status quo  TheKentuckian   Jan-25-11 09:07 PM   #36 
  - We've been played  whatchamacallit   Jan-25-11 09:08 PM   #39 
  - Thanks for reminding me why I'm not watching it  radiclib   Jan-25-11 09:08 PM   #40 
  - Perfect Speech for the American Republic. Not a great speech for the left or the right.  MadBadger   Jan-25-11 09:08 PM   #41 
  - ...nor for the unemployed.  Kurovski   Jan-25-11 09:11 PM   #48 
  - I take great comfort...  Davis_X_Machina   Jan-25-11 09:16 PM   #62 
  - Yep, went "center" which means right in the US  nadinbrzezinski   Jan-25-11 09:11 PM   #44 
  - Like caviar.  Safetykitten   Jan-25-11 09:11 PM   #45 
  - Watching tennis.  MuseRider   Jan-25-11 09:11 PM   #46 
  - I expected this speech to be a coming out party for a born again supply sider.  pa28   Jan-25-11 09:12 PM   #49 
  - Hmmmm...  madamesilverspurs   Jan-25-11 09:13 PM   #53 
  - Attention DU:  Kurovski   Jan-25-11 09:13 PM   #54 
  - Since when?  WilliamPitt   Jan-25-11 09:15 PM   #59 
     - Oh yeah?  Kurovski   Jan-25-11 09:16 PM   #63 
  - Just what exactly should he be saying?  Generic Brad   Jan-25-11 09:14 PM   #55 
  - Property is theft.  Davis_X_Machina   Jan-25-11 09:19 PM   #66 
  - Agreed. Ah, if only we ruled the world. But they won't listen to us...  freshwest   Jan-25-11 10:23 PM   #105 
  - Political office is not the end all to political engagement.  Luminous Animal   Jan-25-11 09:34 PM   #83 
  - Gimme a break - at least he didn't mention cutting Social Security  tularetom   Jan-25-11 09:14 PM   #56 
  - at least clinton had his roots in sixties liberalism, imho  paulk   Jan-26-11 02:38 PM   #227 
  - Talked for well over an hour  HarveyDarkey   Jan-25-11 09:16 PM   #64 
  - One Hour one minute. But, yes, you are right.  decidedlyso   Jan-26-11 01:57 PM   #212 
  - That thing about Bush tax cuts, wow, so Bushlike  soleft   Jan-25-11 09:19 PM   #68 
  - I didn't support him after about 2 months  upi402   Jan-25-11 09:22 PM   #71 
  - Nelson Rockefeller is smiling in republican heaven  Safetykitten   Jan-25-11 09:23 PM   #72 
  - Nelson Rockefeller was further left  dflprincess   Jan-26-11 09:05 PM   #295 
  - I didn't like it. It was boring, pandering and I didn't like the way he  Liquorice   Jan-25-11 09:24 PM   #73 
  - Great speech, imo. Til he got to the 'education' part. n/t  Fire1   Jan-25-11 09:28 PM   #75 
  - And those that never liked him...still don't like him.  Ikonoklast   Jan-25-11 09:29 PM   #77 
  - And those who are left of center still don't like him  Lorien   Jan-25-11 09:33 PM   #81 
  - The Democratic Party would disagree with you.  Ikonoklast   Jan-25-11 09:35 PM   #84 
  - The far Left hasn't seen a true Democrat in decades  donheld   Jan-25-11 11:31 PM   #117 
  - Because he's an Independent Senator.  RUMMYisFROSTED   Jan-26-11 08:29 AM   #159 
  - DING! DING! DING!  Ochsfan   Jan-26-11 02:02 PM   #216 
  - Wow... ain't that a bitch.  liberation   Jan-26-11 08:18 PM   #290 
  - I'm left of center and like him just fine.  Codeine   Jan-25-11 09:46 PM   #90 
     - thanks codeine..  DianeK   Jan-26-11 09:11 AM   #166 
  - I Caucused for him, I stood up and spoke for him, I went to another city  Kurovski   Jan-25-11 09:37 PM   #86 
  - If it doesn't apply to you, why are you furious?  Ikonoklast   Jan-25-11 09:43 PM   #88 
     - DON'T GUESS. It will get you into trouble.  Kurovski   Jan-25-11 10:00 PM   #98 
     - Condescension noted.  Ikonoklast   Jan-25-11 10:08 PM   #102 
     - I supported the President  Enthusiast   Jan-26-11 04:39 PM   #259 
  - I was a loyal Obama supporter until the giveaway to the Health Insurance Industry.  Odin2005   Jan-25-11 11:34 PM   #119 
  - and with good fucking reason. nt  jonnyblitz   Jan-26-11 05:53 AM   #143 
  - And those that never liked him...have been proven right  Smashcut   Jan-26-11 01:22 PM   #194 
  - I liked him...  druidity33   Jan-26-11 06:33 PM   #277 
  - WilliamPitt, for you to say this, it is indeed distressing to worry about  Leopolds Ghost   Jan-25-11 09:32 PM   #80 
  - Couldn't watch it. Watched the first 10 minutes then switched to "Hoarders"  Catherina   Jan-25-11 09:37 PM   #85 
  - Lol!  whatchamacallit   Jan-25-11 09:47 PM   #92 
     - Damn sure sucks.  Catherina   Jan-25-11 09:51 PM   #94 
        - Yeah...  whatchamacallit   Jan-26-11 02:54 PM   #231 
  - No. n/t  theophilus   Jan-25-11 09:45 PM   #89 
  - "Best Republican speech I've ever heard."  unkachuck   Jan-25-11 09:48 PM   #93 
  - yup best republican speech ever  Raine   Jan-25-11 09:57 PM   #95 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-25-11 09:59 PM   #96 
  - Sneaking in at the end.  WilliamPitt   Jan-25-11 10:43 PM   #108 
  - Did Ben Stein get a copy of his speech!?  Rex   Jan-25-11 10:44 PM   #109 
  - Yes Bachmann's speech was really that bad.  jillan   Jan-25-11 10:45 PM   #110 
  - I guess he didn't have time to fit in America's high unemployment rate.  True_Blue   Jan-25-11 11:17 PM   #111 
  - And the housing crisis is over?  Kurovski   Jan-26-11 01:44 PM   #207 
  - Ignored mentioning the 3,250 homes that banks padlock each and every day  sad sally   Jan-26-11 11:01 PM   #300 
  - And it won't be good enough for the GOP or the Tea Party  merh   Jan-25-11 11:29 PM   #114 
  - + 1,000  suffragette   Jan-25-11 11:36 PM   #120 
  - No-No! Obama will only beat the GOP by beating them at their own game - be patient!  Imagevision   Jan-25-11 11:31 PM   #115 
  - I love you Will  helderheid   Jan-25-11 11:31 PM   #116 
  - +1 n/t  JTFrog   Jan-26-11 02:09 PM   #219 
  - I was appalled. Obama is a Puke in Dem clothing.  Odin2005   Jan-25-11 11:32 PM   #118 
  - It was worse.  woo me with science   Jan-25-11 11:55 PM   #121 
  - You're completely on point  Raine   Jan-26-11 02:32 AM   #129 
  - Well said. The thing about the people that "don't get it" is...  Bonobo   Jan-26-11 02:37 AM   #130 
  - Like a frog trying to explain to a tadpole  WilliamPitt   Jan-26-11 03:18 AM   #133 
  - Good point.  deutsey   Jan-26-11 05:44 AM   #141 
     - Yes, that is it PRECISELY.  Bonobo   Jan-26-11 06:19 AM   #151 
  - Excellent. You summed up exactly how I feel.  deutsey   Jan-26-11 05:28 AM   #138 
  - Exactly. n/t  myrna minx   Jan-26-11 09:22 AM   #167 
  - +1000  Smashcut   Jan-26-11 01:32 PM   #200 
  - I had to flick it off.  PassingFair   Jan-26-11 04:37 PM   #258 
  - You've got to be fucking kidding. n/t  JeffR   Jan-25-11 11:57 PM   #122 
  - K&R  Fuddnik   Jan-25-11 11:57 PM   #123 
  - I'm going with you on this one Will.  cherokeeprogressive   Jan-25-11 11:59 PM   #124 
  - Thanks for keeping it real, Will  Oilwellian   Jan-26-11 01:38 AM   #127 
  - YES.  Mimosa   Jan-26-11 03:01 AM   #132 
  - +1  swilton   Jan-26-11 04:51 PM   #265 
  - He wants me to innovate my way to a job. To be creative.  EFerrari   Jan-26-11 03:28 AM   #134 
  - Hammocks like Social Security totally destroy creativity. nt  woo me with science   Jan-26-11 06:15 AM   #149 
  - I'm going to have to "intend" a way to live between this no job  EFerrari   Jan-26-11 02:18 PM   #223 
  - People on unemployment just use it for drugs.  Kurovski   Jan-26-11 02:47 PM   #229 
  - .  myrna minx   Jan-26-11 09:24 AM   #168 
  - Hey! I "create" parking spaces all the time.  Kurovski   Jan-26-11 01:49 PM   #209 
  - I hit the trifecta, at a minimum. War on teaching, faked foreclosures,  EFerrari   Jan-26-11 02:17 PM   #222 
  - No cost of living raise in three years for ss recipients.  Kurovski   Jan-26-11 02:43 PM   #228 
  - Perhaps I'll innovate myself to this foolishly unattended idling car.  myrna minx   Jan-26-11 04:07 PM   #245 
     - !  Kurovski   Jan-26-11 04:18 PM   #251 
  - Sorry!  EFerrari   Jan-26-11 02:15 PM   #221 
  - They don't seem to get that Joe Sixpack ain't-a gonna invent his way outta this mess.  HughBeaumont   Jan-26-11 02:01 PM   #215 
     - Werner Erhard used to say things like "create the chair!"  EFerrari   Jan-26-11 02:14 PM   #220 
  - Watching Speech.. the Politicians are very comfortable...  lib2DaBone   Jan-26-11 04:25 AM   #135 
  - This is key.  woo me with science   Jan-26-11 06:18 AM   #150 
     - What middle class?  Hydra   Jan-26-11 01:48 PM   #208 
  - recommend  xchrom   Jan-26-11 04:31 AM   #136 
  - Yes, it is  bonnieS   Jan-26-11 05:43 AM   #140 
  - That bad, huh?  Swamp Rat   Jan-26-11 05:51 AM   #142 
  - you're getting warm. nt  tomp   Jan-26-11 05:58 AM   #144 
  - Excuse me. Can I see your ID? I can't believe you wrote this and I AGREE WITH YOU!!!!  BigBearJohn   Jan-26-11 06:12 AM   #146 
  - Poop grenade.  mmonk   Jan-26-11 06:12 AM   #147 
  - I also  bonnieS   Jan-26-11 06:14 AM   #148 
  - Broken clock syndrome. n/t  blindpig   Jan-26-11 07:53 AM   #152 
  - Ben Stein says O should run as a Republican in 2012. Good idea. Drop the facade. nt  mistertrickster   Jan-26-11 08:34 AM   #160 
  - Yes as bad as you think.  lonestarnot   Jan-26-11 08:56 AM   #162 
  - What got me was the manner in which he seemed to hold his own party at arm's length.  closeupready   Jan-26-11 09:02 AM   #163 
  - Maybe he really DOES believe he's "above" having a party  Hydra   Jan-26-11 01:50 PM   #210 
     - I don't know. These things are telling. You gotta wonder why WH speechwriters don't  closeupready   Jan-26-11 02:04 PM   #217 
  - And from now on . . . this is as good as it's going to get.  HughBeaumont   Jan-26-11 09:03 AM   #164 
  - He is following in Clinton's footsteps.  The Backlash Cometh   Jan-26-11 09:27 AM   #169 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-26-11 09:29 AM   #170 
  - It could be a helluva lot worse! n/t  Fire1   Jan-26-11 09:31 AM   #171 
  - " Please tell me I'm just an insane person."  robcon   Jan-26-11 10:25 AM   #173 
  - For opponents of nuclear energy, the energy policy is bad news. NT  Eric J in MN   Jan-26-11 10:31 AM   #174 
  - Yup it was bad. freeze spending, lower corporate tax rates, simplify the tax code..  truebrit71   Jan-26-11 10:32 AM   #176 
  - He wants to grow the economy by stimulating appropriate innovation and improving education  slackmaster   Jan-26-11 10:37 AM   #178 
  - innovation in greener energy like Fracking for natural gas?  Kurovski   Jan-26-11 03:02 PM   #233 
     - He listed several forms of non-petroleum energy and said we needed to do them all  slackmaster   Jan-26-11 04:21 PM   #253 
  - Exactly what I thought to myself. "This is a GOP speech."  phantom power   Jan-26-11 11:02 AM   #182 
  - Most of us here have either gone though this realization or will soon. n/t  Poll_Blind   Jan-26-11 11:09 AM   #184 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-26-11 11:31 AM   #185 
  - "but he has been kissing GOP ass from beginning to end" That's weird  ProSense   Jan-26-11 11:45 AM   #187 
  - After campaign 2008, I auto-edit lofty rhetoric and vague promises.  bvar22   Jan-26-11 01:00 PM   #191 
  - This country is going down  Smashcut   Jan-26-11 01:24 PM   #196 
  - was it Jackson Browne that wrote,  onethatcares   Jan-26-11 02:50 PM   #230 
  - Word is out that he will make up for it May 12.  deaniac21   Jan-26-11 01:29 PM   #198 
  - How?  kimmerspixelated   Jan-26-11 04:30 PM   #256 
  - I stopped listening half way through. Cognitive Dissonance made my head spin.  PassingFair   Jan-26-11 01:31 PM   #199 
  - +1  defendandprotect   Jan-26-11 01:39 PM   #204 
  - Yes -- and if those interested in democracy don't get busy doing something soon....  defendandprotect   Jan-26-11 01:38 PM   #203 
  - I kinda figured out after taking power & doing nothing about voting issues,  mod mom   Jan-26-11 01:43 PM   #206 
  - Particularly voting issues as related to minorities, for godsake. (nt)  Kurovski   Jan-26-11 01:57 PM   #213 
  - What I heard was Democratic objectives presented in centrist or  hedgehog   Jan-26-11 01:54 PM   #211 
  - Yes, it was a Republican feel-good speech. But he was forced to  decidedlyso   Jan-26-11 02:07 PM   #218 
  - You might be a dandy writer dude but you don't know a damned thing  Hubert Flottz   Jan-26-11 02:22 PM   #224 
  - Be careful now..  Stumbler   Jan-26-11 02:23 PM   #225 
  - You're hardly crazy  colsohlibgal   Jan-26-11 02:58 PM   #232 
  - Great speech. Speaking to education,r + d etc. are not "belly rubs" - it's to counter the chatter  deacon   Jan-26-11 03:21 PM   #235 
  - Obama will be a better RepbuliCON president than Clinton was n/t  RoccoR5955   Jan-26-11 03:29 PM   #236 
  - Read the speech didn't listen  abelenkpe   Jan-26-11 03:48 PM   #240 
  - And that is exactly why we should ignore it - as I just wrote in  TBF   Jan-26-11 04:02 PM   #243 
  - Jesus H. Facepalming Christ, my friend...a blast from the past....  jus_the_facts   Jan-26-11 03:56 PM   #241 
  - Will, looking at Mr. Obama is not going to inspire us -  TBF   Jan-26-11 04:00 PM   #242 
  - Apparently the only cure for bank speculation is more ROTC on campus & lower gov't wages?  DirkGently   Jan-26-11 04:04 PM   #244 
  - I have to agree. Beautifully delivered, but classic repuke content.  kestrel91316   Jan-26-11 04:11 PM   #246 
  - I can't imagine why people who possess, and UTILIZE,  SaveOurDemocracy   Jan-26-11 04:17 PM   #250 
  - +1  swilton   Jan-26-11 04:44 PM   #261 
  - Poop claymore - it threw most of the shit to the left  saras   Jan-26-11 04:24 PM   #255 
  - More responses  ProSense   Jan-26-11 04:43 PM   #260 
  - Wow  WVRICK13   Jan-26-11 04:48 PM   #263 
  - In answer to your original question, Will....  Demoiselle   Jan-26-11 05:01 PM   #266 
  - It's as bad as you think it is.  tpsbmam   Jan-26-11 05:02 PM   #267 
  - in a word: YES. I have sadly realized (finally) that they are all the same  ladywnch   Jan-26-11 05:08 PM   #268 
  - It's worse, because he played on the hearts desires and intelligence  rtassi   Jan-26-11 05:20 PM   #269 
  - The R's are playing checkers, BHO is playing 5-level chess.  CLANG   Jan-26-11 05:29 PM   #270 
  - We could have picked Kucinich or Edwards, but they had other problems.  JDPriestly   Jan-26-11 05:34 PM   #271 
  - The good news is that people are getting hired, the bad news is that they are getting slave labor  rhett o rick   Jan-26-11 06:31 PM   #276 
  - Actually, the salmon joke was pretty good....  Faryn Balyncd   Jan-26-11 05:51 PM   #273 
  - He said poop grenade.  sarcasmo   Jan-26-11 06:01 PM   #275 
  - Howard Fineman says Obama Used a Boxing Ploy....."The Clinch"  KoKo   Jan-26-11 06:37 PM   #278 
  - Fineman is a republican tool. nt  Lorien   Jan-26-11 06:46 PM   #279 
  - One cold crunchy shit sandwich it was. n/t  Hotler   Jan-26-11 07:16 PM   #281 
  - LOL.......Hotler  Skittles   Jan-26-11 07:57 PM   #287 
  - +1  OwnedByFerrets   Jan-26-11 07:29 PM   #282 
  - Yep  guitar man   Jan-26-11 07:54 PM   #283 
  - No.  mzmolly   Jan-26-11 07:55 PM   #284 
  - you are correct William  Skittles   Jan-26-11 07:55 PM   #285 
  - No - I don't think it was............  1776Forever   Jan-26-11 07:55 PM   #286 
  - Agree William!  Crewleader   Jan-26-11 08:12 PM   #289 
  - People continue to argue that Obama's a liberal.  hulka38   Jan-26-11 08:19 PM   #291 
  - We need to ready ourselves for a new republican era. We lost last night.  Safetykitten   Jan-26-11 08:19 PM   #292 
  - The worst part is yet to come.  Scruffy1   Jan-26-11 08:46 PM   #293 
  - Wouldn't be so bad- if nearly most of the GOP were liberal Republicans like Pres. Obama.  Sunnyshine   Jan-26-11 08:54 PM   #294 
  - What I would expect from a "moderate" Republican. Which  LibDemAlways   Jan-26-11 09:48 PM   #297 
  - You and I listened to different speeches.  quiller4   Jan-26-11 10:05 PM   #298 
  - How about..  sendero   Jan-27-11 07:50 PM   #305 
  - Herp Derp...nt  SidDithers   Jan-27-11 07:44 PM   #303 
 

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