mzmolly
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Wed Jan-26-11 01:25 PM
Response to Reply #48 |
| 52. Supposedly his detention is not unusual. |
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Edited on Wed Jan-26-11 01:53 PM by mzmolly
This is abhorrent. However, that doesn't mean the President will have him released from prison or that Democrats should take up the mantle of releasing a potential traitor.
Let me say, I've never understood the notion that Asange is a hero, while Manning is allowed to rot in Prison. I did not understand Michael Moore giving money to Asange for doing what amounts to nothing, while "progressives" - including Asanage, ignored Mr. Manning. But to suggest that Democrats should treat Manning like a hero for leaking classified information is absurd. Should we examine how ALL detainees are treated? ABSOLUTELY.
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| -How long are Democrats going to give Obama a pass on Private Manning? |
markpkessinger |
Jan-25-11 07:33 PM |
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what's the frequency, kenneth? |
spanone |
Jan-25-11 07:34 PM |
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I don't get your reference |
markpkessinger |
Jan-25-11 07:38 PM |
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Dan Rather. |
WinkyDink |
Jan-25-11 07:59 PM |
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I guess I'm dense, but you're still being far too cryptic for me |
markpkessinger |
Jan-25-11 08:04 PM |
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Don't Forget REM |
zorahopkins |
Jan-26-11 04:52 PM |
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That object is very shiny |
emulatorloo |
Jan-25-11 07:39 PM |
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Link? n/t |
emulatorloo |
Jan-25-11 07:40 PM |
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Here are two . . . |
markpkessinger |
Jan-25-11 07:46 PM |
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Thank you, I will check out the MSNBC one. |
emulatorloo |
Jan-25-11 07:52 PM |
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Too Long. He'll Have to Die to Get Their Attention. |
Demeter |
Jan-25-11 07:44 PM |
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Forever |
Ramulux |
Jan-25-11 07:47 PM |
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The relative silence is deafening. |
markpkessinger |
Jan-25-11 07:50 PM |
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Sssshhh!! Torture is fashionable again under the new Boss(D). |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Jan-25-11 07:54 PM |
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Ha! I guess it is more "Underground" than "Democratic" around here nowadays! |
Pterodactyl |
Jan-25-11 08:47 PM |
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Until someone restores the rule of law in this country |
sabrina 1 |
Jan-25-11 07:57 PM |
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+1; and |
snot |
Jan-26-11 01:31 AM |
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History will not judge this Presidency kindly when it comes to human rights |
markpkessinger |
Jan-26-11 04:48 PM |
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Rec'd although |
sabrina 1 |
Jan-25-11 07:58 PM |
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Yes -- my post had two recs that mysteriously disappeared |
markpkessinger |
Jan-25-11 08:03 PM |
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Just gave one back to you. You asked an important question |
Catherina |
Jan-26-11 12:40 AM |
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Yes, obviously unrecing this thread means you support torture |
Recursion |
Jan-25-11 08:05 PM |
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Plausibly for sure. Not necessarily probable but within the realm of reasonable possibility |
TheKentuckian |
Jan-25-11 08:16 PM |
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This is why I never unrec |
Recursion |
Jan-25-11 08:28 PM |
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Um dude. He was charged. With crimes. In July. If you are a supporter of his, |
msanthrope |
Jan-25-11 08:04 PM |
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He was detained -- not formally charged |
markpkessinger |
Jan-25-11 08:05 PM |
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Really? So the CHARGE SHEET---is just a fabrication? Best tell his lawyer....who thinks he's been |
msanthrope |
Jan-25-11 08:10 PM |
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Yep - forged by the same people that forged his birth certificate. |
cliffordu |
Jan-25-11 08:23 PM |
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Put Orly Taitz on the case......n/t |
msanthrope |
Jan-25-11 08:32 PM |
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Orly!!!! RAT NOW!!!!! |
cliffordu |
Jan-25-11 08:38 PM |
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I stand partially corrected |
markpkessinger |
Jan-25-11 08:45 PM |
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There were thousands of classified documents |
hack89 |
Jan-26-11 03:30 PM |
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Where does this BS come from? Who invents it? |
Recursion |
Jan-25-11 08:11 PM |
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The charges say that... |
markpkessinger |
Jan-25-11 08:51 PM |
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ROFL |
PBS Poll-435 |
Jan-26-11 02:21 PM |
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On a pretty lake in the woods next to a campfire and a puppy shows up to warm your feet |
PBS Poll-435 |
Jan-26-11 02:19 PM |
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Charged or not we are not supposed to |
sabrina 1 |
Jan-25-11 08:38 PM |
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Precisely |
markpkessinger |
Jan-25-11 08:47 PM |
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Good question, in fact that is a very good question ~ |
sabrina 1 |
Jan-26-11 02:37 AM |
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Here is his online confession |
hack89 |
Jan-26-11 03:43 PM |
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And here is Greenwald's take |
markpkessinger |
Jan-26-11 03:53 PM |
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That's why we have investigations |
hack89 |
Jan-26-11 04:27 PM |
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That may all be true . . . |
markpkessinger |
Jan-26-11 04:42 PM |
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All heroes seem like idiots in their times to some people. |
sabrina 1 |
Jan-27-11 12:36 AM |
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Pre trial punishment is illegal. |
EFerrari |
Jan-25-11 08:54 PM |
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"Without authorization" is misleading |
Recursion |
Jan-25-11 08:05 PM |
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Wow. |
markpkessinger |
Jan-25-11 08:07 PM |
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I find the conditions of Manning's captivity vindictive and petty |
Recursion |
Jan-25-11 08:10 PM |
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Do you have any clue what solitary confinement does to a person? |
markpkessinger |
Jan-25-11 08:12 PM |
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Oh yeah... |
Recursion |
Jan-25-11 08:13 PM |
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So destroying a person's mind is any less horrible? |
markpkessinger |
Jan-25-11 08:20 PM |
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Time Will Tell... |
WillyT |
Jan-25-11 08:07 PM |
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"Six months without being charged with a crime"? |
Pterodactyl |
Jan-25-11 08:18 PM |
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I stand corrected about his being charged... |
markpkessinger |
Jan-25-11 08:21 PM |
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It is not unusual for the accused to remain in jail while awaiting trial. |
Pterodactyl |
Jan-25-11 08:40 PM |
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His detention is not the issue... |
markpkessinger |
Jan-25-11 08:42 PM |
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He gets out one hour a day. |
Pterodactyl |
Jan-26-11 07:56 AM |
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No. He is taken to another room in shackles and his "exercise" |
EFerrari |
Jan-26-11 01:45 PM |
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It's not punishment until after conviction. |
Pterodactyl |
Jan-26-11 07:24 PM |
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From the Uniform Code of Military Justice |
markpkessinger |
Jan-26-11 07:45 PM |
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What? Yes, his conditions are abusive and it is exactly pre-trial punishment |
EFerrari |
Jan-26-11 10:05 PM |
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A spokesman quoted by the New York Times says so. |
Pterodactyl |
Jan-26-11 07:28 PM |
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If you put Manning in general population you take the chance of him |
Lurks Often |
Jan-26-11 02:46 PM |
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You are presenting a false choice |
markpkessinger |
Jan-26-11 04:52 PM |
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We're not going to agree on this |
Lurks Often |
Jan-26-11 06:41 PM |
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From the Uniform Code of Military Justice |
markpkessinger |
Jan-26-11 06:14 PM |
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Probably as long as the Democrats are going to give Obama a pass on war crimes. |
Karmadillo |
Jan-25-11 08:27 PM |
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Sadly, yes. |
markpkessinger |
Jan-26-11 04:44 PM |
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Bingo. |
krabigirl |
Jan-26-11 07:02 PM |
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I suggest you all catch up on Greenwald's reporting on this |
markpkessinger |
Jan-25-11 08:39 PM |
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He's been in solitary for oever 7.5 mos. |
snot |
Jan-26-11 01:23 AM |
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So you think Obama should release a person who leaked |
mzmolly |
Jan-26-11 01:39 AM |
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His detention has been so abusive that the UN Special Rapporteur |
EFerrari |
Jan-26-11 01:46 AM |
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It is interesting that he is only 'suspected' of leaking the |
sabrina 1 |
Jan-26-11 02:42 AM |
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Supposedly his detention is not unusual. |
mzmolly |
Jan-26-11 01:25 PM |
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The administration has botched this case so badly |
EFerrari |
Jan-26-11 01:48 PM |
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You didn't answer the question, this person allegedly gave SOMEONE some classified docs... |
uponit7771 |
Jan-26-11 01:50 PM |
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Regardless of who he is, you should be outraged that an American citizen |
EFerrari |
Jan-26-11 02:56 PM |
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More pout-rage, Manning allegedly gave classified docs to SOMEONE and that's the illegal act |
uponit7771 |
Jan-26-11 01:50 PM |
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The key word is "allegedly" |
markpkessinger |
Jan-26-11 03:43 PM |
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Objecting to torture is "poutrage" on your planet? |
EFerrari |
Jan-26-11 06:43 PM |
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private manning is going to be spending a long time in jail, and |
okieinpain |
Jan-26-11 03:17 PM |
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So I take it then that you... |
markpkessinger |
Jan-26-11 04:44 PM |
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So, he's guilty before trial? |
grahamhgreen |
Jan-26-11 06:44 PM |
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He hasn't been convicted of anything. |
krabigirl |
Jan-26-11 07:03 PM |
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There is no Private Manning. |
grahamhgreen |
Jan-26-11 06:43 PM |
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How long are Democrats going to give Obama, et al a pass on Bush/Cheney war crimes? |
flvegan |
Jan-26-11 07:17 PM |
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I agree 100% |
markpkessinger |
Jan-26-11 07:48 PM |
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Meh... |
LostInAnomie |
Jan-26-11 07:47 PM |
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