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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-11 07:54 PM
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10. Sssshhh!! Torture is fashionable again under the new Boss(D).
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  -How long are Democrats going to give Obama a pass on Private Manning? markpkessinger  Jan-25-11 07:33 PM   #0 
  - what's the frequency, kenneth?  spanone   Jan-25-11 07:34 PM   #1 
  - I don't get your reference  markpkessinger   Jan-25-11 07:38 PM   #2 
  - Dan Rather.  WinkyDink   Jan-25-11 07:59 PM   #13 
     - I guess I'm dense, but you're still being far too cryptic for me  markpkessinger   Jan-25-11 08:04 PM   #16 
     - Don't Forget REM  zorahopkins   Jan-26-11 04:52 PM   #71 
  - That object is very shiny  emulatorloo   Jan-25-11 07:39 PM   #3 
  - Link? n/t  emulatorloo   Jan-25-11 07:40 PM   #4 
  - Here are two . . .  markpkessinger   Jan-25-11 07:46 PM   #6 
     - Thank you, I will check out the MSNBC one.  emulatorloo   Jan-25-11 07:52 PM   #9 
  - Too Long. He'll Have to Die to Get Their Attention.  Demeter   Jan-25-11 07:44 PM   #5 
  - Forever  Ramulux   Jan-25-11 07:47 PM   #7 
  - The relative silence is deafening.  markpkessinger   Jan-25-11 07:50 PM   #8 
  - Sssshhh!! Torture is fashionable again under the new Boss(D).  Tierra_y_Libertad   Jan-25-11 07:54 PM   #10 
  - Ha! I guess it is more "Underground" than "Democratic" around here nowadays!  Pterodactyl   Jan-25-11 08:47 PM   #40 
  - Until someone restores the rule of law in this country  sabrina 1   Jan-25-11 07:57 PM   #11 
  - +1; and  snot   Jan-26-11 01:31 AM   #46 
  - History will not judge this Presidency kindly when it comes to human rights  markpkessinger   Jan-26-11 04:48 PM   #70 
  - Rec'd although  sabrina 1   Jan-25-11 07:58 PM   #12 
  - Yes -- my post had two recs that mysteriously disappeared  markpkessinger   Jan-25-11 08:03 PM   #14 
  - Just gave one back to you. You asked an important question  Catherina   Jan-26-11 12:40 AM   #44 
  - Yes, obviously unrecing this thread means you support torture  Recursion   Jan-25-11 08:05 PM   #19 
     - Plausibly for sure. Not necessarily probable but within the realm of reasonable possibility  TheKentuckian   Jan-25-11 08:16 PM   #26 
        - This is why I never unrec  Recursion   Jan-25-11 08:28 PM   #32 
  - Um dude. He was charged. With crimes. In July. If you are a supporter of his,  msanthrope   Jan-25-11 08:04 PM   #15 
  - He was detained -- not formally charged  markpkessinger   Jan-25-11 08:05 PM   #17 
  - Really? So the CHARGE SHEET---is just a fabrication? Best tell his lawyer....who thinks he's been  msanthrope   Jan-25-11 08:10 PM   #21 
  - Yep - forged by the same people that forged his birth certificate.  cliffordu   Jan-25-11 08:23 PM   #30 
  - Put Orly Taitz on the case......n/t  msanthrope   Jan-25-11 08:32 PM   #33 
     - Orly!!!! RAT NOW!!!!!  cliffordu   Jan-25-11 08:38 PM   #34 
  - I stand partially corrected  markpkessinger   Jan-25-11 08:45 PM   #39 
     - There were thousands of classified documents  hack89   Jan-26-11 03:30 PM   #62 
  - Where does this BS come from? Who invents it?  Recursion   Jan-25-11 08:11 PM   #23 
     - The charges say that...  markpkessinger   Jan-25-11 08:51 PM   #42 
     - ROFL  PBS Poll-435   Jan-26-11 02:21 PM   #58 
     - On a pretty lake in the woods next to a campfire and a puppy shows up to warm your feet  PBS Poll-435   Jan-26-11 02:19 PM   #57 
  - Charged or not we are not supposed to  sabrina 1   Jan-25-11 08:38 PM   #35 
  - Precisely  markpkessinger   Jan-25-11 08:47 PM   #41 
  - Good question, in fact that is a very good question ~  sabrina 1   Jan-26-11 02:37 AM   #49 
  - Here is his online confession  hack89   Jan-26-11 03:43 PM   #63 
     - And here is Greenwald's take  markpkessinger   Jan-26-11 03:53 PM   #65 
     - That's why we have investigations  hack89   Jan-26-11 04:27 PM   #66 
        - That may all be true . . .  markpkessinger   Jan-26-11 04:42 PM   #67 
     - All heroes seem like idiots in their times to some people.  sabrina 1   Jan-27-11 12:36 AM   #87 
  - Pre trial punishment is illegal.  EFerrari   Jan-25-11 08:54 PM   #43 
  - "Without authorization" is misleading  Recursion   Jan-25-11 08:05 PM   #18 
  - Wow.  markpkessinger   Jan-25-11 08:07 PM   # 
     - I find the conditions of Manning's captivity vindictive and petty  Recursion   Jan-25-11 08:10 PM   #22 
        - Do you have any clue what solitary confinement does to a person?  markpkessinger   Jan-25-11 08:12 PM   #24 
           - Oh yeah...  Recursion   Jan-25-11 08:13 PM   #25 
              - So destroying a person's mind is any less horrible?  markpkessinger   Jan-25-11 08:20 PM   #28 
  - Time Will Tell...  WillyT   Jan-25-11 08:07 PM   #20 
  - "Six months without being charged with a crime"?  Pterodactyl   Jan-25-11 08:18 PM   #27 
  - I stand corrected about his being charged...  markpkessinger   Jan-25-11 08:21 PM   #29 
     - It is not unusual for the accused to remain in jail while awaiting trial.  Pterodactyl   Jan-25-11 08:40 PM   #37 
        - His detention is not the issue...  markpkessinger   Jan-25-11 08:42 PM   #38 
           - He gets out one hour a day.  Pterodactyl   Jan-26-11 07:56 AM   #51 
           - No. He is taken to another room in shackles and his "exercise"  EFerrari   Jan-26-11 01:45 PM   #53 
              - It's not punishment until after conviction.  Pterodactyl   Jan-26-11 07:24 PM   #81 
              - From the Uniform Code of Military Justice  markpkessinger   Jan-26-11 07:45 PM   #83 
              - What? Yes, his conditions are abusive and it is exactly pre-trial punishment  EFerrari   Jan-26-11 10:05 PM   #86 
              - A spokesman quoted by the New York Times says so.  Pterodactyl   Jan-26-11 07:28 PM   #82 
           - If you put Manning in general population you take the chance of him  Lurks Often   Jan-26-11 02:46 PM   #59 
              - You are presenting a false choice  markpkessinger   Jan-26-11 04:52 PM   #72 
              - We're not going to agree on this  Lurks Often   Jan-26-11 06:41 PM   #74 
              - From the Uniform Code of Military Justice  markpkessinger   Jan-26-11 06:14 PM   #73 
  - Probably as long as the Democrats are going to give Obama a pass on war crimes.  Karmadillo   Jan-25-11 08:27 PM   #31 
  - Sadly, yes.  markpkessinger   Jan-26-11 04:44 PM   #69 
  - Bingo.  krabigirl   Jan-26-11 07:02 PM   #78 
  - I suggest you all catch up on Greenwald's reporting on this  markpkessinger   Jan-25-11 08:39 PM   #36 
  - He's been in solitary for oever 7.5 mos.  snot   Jan-26-11 01:23 AM   #45 
  - So you think Obama should release a person who leaked  mzmolly   Jan-26-11 01:39 AM   #47 
  - His detention has been so abusive that the UN Special Rapporteur  EFerrari   Jan-26-11 01:46 AM   #48 
     - It is interesting that he is only 'suspected' of leaking the  sabrina 1   Jan-26-11 02:42 AM   #50 
     - Supposedly his detention is not unusual.  mzmolly   Jan-26-11 01:25 PM   #52 
     - The administration has botched this case so badly  EFerrari   Jan-26-11 01:48 PM   #54 
     - You didn't answer the question, this person allegedly gave SOMEONE some classified docs...  uponit7771   Jan-26-11 01:50 PM   #55 
        - Regardless of who he is, you should be outraged that an American citizen  EFerrari   Jan-26-11 02:56 PM   #60 
  - More pout-rage, Manning allegedly gave classified docs to SOMEONE and that's the illegal act  uponit7771   Jan-26-11 01:50 PM   #56 
  - The key word is "allegedly"  markpkessinger   Jan-26-11 03:43 PM   #64 
  - Objecting to torture is "poutrage" on your planet?  EFerrari   Jan-26-11 06:43 PM   #75 
  - private manning is going to be spending a long time in jail, and  okieinpain   Jan-26-11 03:17 PM   #61 
  - So I take it then that you...  markpkessinger   Jan-26-11 04:44 PM   #68 
  - So, he's guilty before trial?  grahamhgreen   Jan-26-11 06:44 PM   #77 
  - He hasn't been convicted of anything.  krabigirl   Jan-26-11 07:03 PM   #79 
  - There is no Private Manning.  grahamhgreen   Jan-26-11 06:43 PM   #76 
  - How long are Democrats going to give Obama, et al a pass on Bush/Cheney war crimes?  flvegan   Jan-26-11 07:17 PM   #80 
  - I agree 100%  markpkessinger   Jan-26-11 07:48 PM   #85 
  - Meh...  LostInAnomie   Jan-26-11 07:47 PM   #84 
 

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