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Wed Jan-26-11 05:31 PM
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I know plenty of landlords. My DH and I are looking at buying rental property ourselves. There are no tax breaks. And the rent we charge will include a portion that we will use to pay the property tax.
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| -Black Mother Jailed For Sending Kids to White School District |
kpete |
Jan-25-11 01:33 PM |
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Jeez, Brown v Board of Ed all over again... |
Taverner |
Jan-25-11 01:35 PM |
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wtf? jail time & probation for a "crime" routinely committed by thousands of parents across the |
Hannah Bell |
Jan-25-11 01:37 PM |
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She's Black. nt |
gateley |
Jan-25-11 01:41 PM |
#6 |
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Yep. |
xfundy |
Jan-25-11 02:44 PM |
#31 |
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Everyone in my neighborhood played this game. |
appal_jack |
Jan-25-11 06:40 PM |
#60 |
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is there any information available about the racial makeup of the jury? |
Maru Kitteh |
Jan-25-11 01:39 PM |
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compilation of stories from the trial coverage and what transpired afterward. |
kpete |
Jan-25-11 01:40 PM |
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Jailed mom is just a few credit-hours away from a teaching degree - works with special needs kids |
Maru Kitteh |
Jan-25-11 01:56 PM |
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Unfortunately ... |
Kweli4Real |
Jan-25-11 03:40 PM |
#39 |
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Felony? |
blueamy66 |
Jan-26-11 07:39 AM |
#76 |
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She could have found other ways to better her |
liberalhistorian |
Jan-26-11 01:03 PM |
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like??? |
Bluerthanblue |
Jan-26-11 04:46 PM |
#124 |
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Like moving in with her father |
proud2BlibKansan |
Jan-26-11 04:56 PM |
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she shouldn't have had to go to that extreem.- her fathers taxes |
Bluerthanblue |
Jan-26-11 05:04 PM |
#143 |
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So since my kids are no longer in school, I can designate who MY tax dollars educate? |
proud2BlibKansan |
Jan-26-11 05:27 PM |
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Your tax dollars should not go to educating one specific group in particular in the first place. |
joshcryer |
Jan-26-11 05:32 PM |
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exactly! |
Bluerthanblue |
Jan-26-11 05:56 PM |
#169 |
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Best post on this thread. n/t |
stranger81 |
Jan-26-11 08:49 PM |
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that may not be how it works, but it sure does make the argument |
Bluerthanblue |
Jan-26-11 05:55 PM |
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What other ways would that be? nt |
Pithlet |
Jan-26-11 10:24 PM |
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as a convicted felon, she won't even be allowed to get the degree |
fishwax |
Jan-26-11 01:24 PM |
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What's Worse Is This Was a FELONY and She Will Never Be Able To Teach. |
we can do it |
Jan-25-11 09:32 PM |
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I don't know about you, but I wouldn't want my child's teacher to |
liberalhistorian |
Jan-26-11 01:08 PM |
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That's my first thought as well |
proud2BlibKansan |
Jan-26-11 04:49 PM |
#128 |
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You're both so liberal. n/t |
Occulus |
Jan-26-11 09:40 PM |
#185 |
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You wouldn't want your childs teacher to do anything they could to help a child learn? |
joshcryer |
Jan-26-11 04:51 PM |
#130 |
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She broke the law |
proud2BlibKansan |
Jan-26-11 04:54 PM |
#134 |
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Eh, she should've agreed to the fine. But I think she wanted to make a bigger point. |
joshcryer |
Jan-26-11 05:11 PM |
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this is in effect and act of civil disobedience- the law is being |
Bluerthanblue |
Jan-26-11 05:25 PM |
#155 |
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Agree. And I hope it helps discourse recognize that money isn't the problem with bad schools. |
joshcryer |
Jan-26-11 05:29 PM |
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That is so unfair! |
Mimosa |
Jan-27-11 01:30 AM |
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I would be curious to know that too.. |
True_Blue |
Jan-25-11 01:47 PM |
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It wasn't for sending them to school, it was for |
liberalhistorian |
Jan-26-11 01:02 PM |
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What was her motive? |
atreides1 |
Jan-26-11 01:48 PM |
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So committing crimes and costing a lot of money |
liberalhistorian |
Jan-26-11 01:55 PM |
#110 |
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No money was "lost." |
joshcryer |
Jan-26-11 05:22 PM |
#153 |
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well, except the money they paid the private dick |
Bluerthanblue |
Jan-26-11 05:29 PM |
#158 |
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True, but I am sure it was far less than the $30k they claim they "lost." |
joshcryer |
Jan-26-11 05:31 PM |
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Um, yes it was. The school expends a certain amount of money |
liberalhistorian |
Jan-26-11 09:22 PM |
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oh so the ends justify the means |
chowhound |
Jan-26-11 05:13 PM |
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Haha, garbage. |
joshcryer |
Jan-26-11 05:22 PM |
#152 |
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yes, in this case it does. The children's grandfather was paying |
Bluerthanblue |
Jan-26-11 05:23 PM |
#154 |
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Here's info on the white superintendent. He's into thoroughbred horse racing. |
mzmolly |
Jan-26-11 08:09 PM |
#175 |
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WTF indeed |
teenagebambam |
Jan-25-11 01:40 PM |
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I don't get this part: |
dixiegrrrrl |
Jan-25-11 01:40 PM |
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I'm guessing this is what happened |
hughee99 |
Jan-25-11 01:49 PM |
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Exactly what I was thinking.. |
jeffedgmon |
Jan-25-11 02:10 PM |
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I think the hitch here is that it's different school districts in different towns. |
Xithras |
Jan-25-11 02:42 PM |
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The father, however, presumably pays taxes in Copley, no? |
alcibiades_mystery |
Jan-25-11 03:55 PM |
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I believe the father is charged for something different. |
LisaL |
Jan-25-11 03:57 PM |
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Okay, but doesn't the father live in Copley? |
lildreamer316 |
Jan-25-11 04:23 PM |
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The kid's Grandfather. not father. nt |
verges |
Jan-26-11 01:43 PM |
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Whether state or local, she paid taxes SOMEWHERE |
Canuckistanian |
Jan-25-11 06:59 PM |
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But the taxes she paid didn't go to the district |
liberalhistorian |
Jan-26-11 01:07 PM |
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No, she paid rent to keep a house over their head and heroically risked her life for them. |
joshcryer |
Jan-26-11 04:44 PM |
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+1000! |
Bluerthanblue |
Jan-26-11 04:59 PM |
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her FATHER pays taxes in the town where the children went to school |
Bluerthanblue |
Jan-26-11 04:54 PM |
#133 |
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That's not how it works though |
proud2BlibKansan |
Jan-26-11 05:29 PM |
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What's done is done. She was treated unfairly and the laws are unjust. |
joshcryer |
Jan-26-11 05:31 PM |
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If Akron Homeowners Aren't Footing the Bill For Schools? |
NashVegas |
Jan-26-11 11:57 AM |
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They're forced to rent, no credit to buy, no job security, list goes on. |
joshcryer |
Jan-26-11 04:42 PM |
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Renters pay property taxes; it's part of their rent |
proud2BlibKansan |
Jan-26-11 04:53 PM |
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Landlords get tax breaks, renters are not recognized as having paid property taxes. |
joshcryer |
Jan-26-11 04:55 PM |
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All landlords don't get property tax breaks |
proud2BlibKansan |
Jan-26-11 04:57 PM |
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There are so many deductions that landlords get it's absurd. |
joshcryer |
Jan-26-11 05:03 PM |
#142 |
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Bullshit |
proud2BlibKansan |
Jan-26-11 05:31 PM |
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Feel free to read up on the many many deductions that you can get if you have rental property. |
joshcryer |
Jan-26-11 05:33 PM |
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Different school districts. |
verges |
Jan-26-11 01:40 PM |
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Rather, she was poor and could not afford to live in Copley, but decided to give her kids a chance. |
joshcryer |
Jan-26-11 04:50 PM |
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They are saying that the residents of that school district pay taxes to support those schools |
proud2BlibKansan |
Jan-26-11 04:51 PM |
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Yeah, it's a nice scam, actually. Keep the tuition high enough and people who can't "afford"... |
joshcryer |
Jan-26-11 05:00 PM |
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the 'tuition' is being paid by the GRANDFATHER- he lives in the town |
Bluerthanblue |
Jan-26-11 05:18 PM |
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It's not really about money, it's about demographics. |
joshcryer |
Jan-26-11 05:22 PM |
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Why didn't she just move in with her father? |
proud2BlibKansan |
Jan-26-11 05:26 PM |
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We may never know. But it's irrelevant. She should've paid the fine and profusely apologized, etc. |
joshcryer |
Jan-26-11 05:38 PM |
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Exactly! But, she didn't. And therefore she commited fraud. nt |
verges |
Jan-26-11 06:24 PM |
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I'm not sure everyone wants to live with their parents. |
mzmolly |
Jan-26-11 08:11 PM |
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Good point, worth sending to her lawyers |
uponit7771 |
Jan-25-11 02:41 PM |
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There might be a difference in taxes someone pays for living in one area |
LisaL |
Jan-25-11 03:43 PM |
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The difference isn't very much, in Summit County, but they do parcel the tax rate. |
joshcryer |
Jan-26-11 05:20 PM |
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It's a valuation, done to establish the felony nature of the crime..... |
msanthrope |
Jan-25-11 06:14 PM |
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In my county, non-residents have to pay tuition to attend the public schools. |
ehrnst |
Jan-26-11 08:03 AM |
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That'll teach her |
eleny |
Jan-25-11 01:42 PM |
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A felony charge no less. |
Scruffy1 |
Jan-25-11 01:43 PM |
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Vagrancy 2.0 |
immoderate |
Jan-25-11 02:44 PM |
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Us black folks aren't suppose to receive a great education. |
ej510 |
Jan-25-11 01:44 PM |
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unless they're male, and good at sports- then the rules |
Bluerthanblue |
Jan-26-11 04:57 PM |
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And yet: |
Lorien |
Jan-25-11 01:45 PM |
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Wow... I thought we had schools of choice? |
Jokinomx |
Jan-25-11 01:50 PM |
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Way back when |
Gaedel |
Jan-25-11 03:07 PM |
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and yet we see here on DU studies that say |
azurnoir |
Jan-25-11 01:51 PM |
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Oh my God! |
The Backlash Cometh |
Jan-25-11 01:54 PM |
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Report them, that is, |
Tejas |
Jan-25-11 02:39 PM |
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Child graduated. |
The Backlash Cometh |
Jan-25-11 02:56 PM |
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That is f'ed up. |
CC |
Jan-25-11 02:02 PM |
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I'd like to hear from the public school teachers on DU n/t |
Still a Democrat |
Jan-25-11 02:04 PM |
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Attendance = money. THAT is the crux here. Faking a domicile is state money lost for the "real" |
WinkyDink |
Jan-25-11 02:18 PM |
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So would her children generate as much revenue as those attending and living in the district? |
Still a Democrat |
Jan-25-11 02:23 PM |
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School A loses 3 kids = money lost. Period. School B picks up extra money for those 3 kids. |
WinkyDink |
Jan-25-11 03:45 PM |
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I'm not sure I'm following your question. |
verges |
Jan-26-11 01:55 PM |
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It is not money lost. The district has a fixed amount of money income from property taxes. |
joshcryer |
Jan-26-11 04:41 PM |
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and my reply is "don't ask, don't tell" |
kwassa |
Jan-26-11 04:18 PM |
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Ridiculous. IF my district didn't offer school choice, I would have done the same thing and likely |
blondeatlast |
Jan-25-11 02:04 PM |
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I support her as well- |
Bluerthanblue |
Jan-26-11 06:02 PM |
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That is about as much of a "crime" as smoking pot is. |
cleanhippie |
Jan-25-11 02:06 PM |
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Racism exists EVERYWHERE. |
jeffedgmon |
Jan-25-11 02:07 PM |
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these black folks are racist for wanting to send their children to a white school |
datasuspect |
Jan-25-11 02:09 PM |
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No, no; it's not that a white parent would go scot-free; it's that ANY parent of a GREAT ATHLETE |
WinkyDink |
Jan-25-11 02:14 PM |
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Not sure if you'd call a cheerleader a "great athlete". |
Esurientes |
Jan-26-11 08:52 PM |
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And how much did Penn Hills School district recover from Rick Santorum? Why didn't he go to jail? |
sinkingfeeling |
Jan-25-11 02:39 PM |
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Because he is Rick Santorum. |
WinkyDink |
Jan-25-11 03:46 PM |
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Because Penn Hills is in Pennsylvania not Ohio |
happyslug |
Jan-26-11 02:53 PM |
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I forwarded this |
Frosty1 |
Jan-25-11 02:46 PM |
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wtf. People do this all the time. |
Starry Messenger |
Jan-25-11 03:01 PM |
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It isn't any the less illegal. Some get caught; some don't. |
WinkyDink |
Jan-25-11 03:47 PM |
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I've never heard of the fine though. And the jail. And the probation. |
Starry Messenger |
Jan-25-11 03:53 PM |
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Fines, yes. The rest? Overkill, IMO. |
WinkyDink |
Jan-25-11 05:45 PM |
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It is that way where I live - I found this out when I was considering adopting a child. (nt) |
ehrnst |
Jan-26-11 08:09 AM |
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They fine folks here for this |
proud2BlibKansan |
Jan-26-11 04:58 PM |
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I think she refused to pay the fine and then they took it to court. |
joshcryer |
Jan-26-11 05:07 PM |
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one gets prosecuted, the others don't- |
Bluerthanblue |
Jan-26-11 09:06 PM |
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It sounds like what she did was basically "school choice". |
hughee99 |
Jan-25-11 03:40 PM |
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This is obscene. |
Reader Rabbit |
Jan-25-11 03:40 PM |
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Sad and effed up beyond belief. Judge says the county prosecutor refused to consider misdemeanor |
entanglement |
Jan-25-11 03:48 PM |
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Fuck the judge--she has the power to knock it down. She probably |
msanthrope |
Jan-25-11 06:16 PM |
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This has happened multiple times in our school district. |
Dappleganger |
Jan-25-11 03:52 PM |
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This poor mother needs a miracle... I hope some lawyer steps in and helps her.... |
midnight |
Jan-25-11 04:37 PM |
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Are the kids good at sports??????? |
dembotoz |
Jan-25-11 04:47 PM |
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I hope that prosecutor is proud for taking this all the way through trial. |
varkam |
Jan-25-11 05:42 PM |
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They chose her for 'good' reason. |
msanthrope |
Jan-25-11 06:10 PM |
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This is not necessarily black and white |
karynnj |
Jan-25-11 06:23 PM |
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"The solution is to improve all schools and make them safe." And when will we hear any politician |
WinkyDink |
Jan-25-11 06:25 PM |
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When will politicians discuss this on the national level? |
MedicalAdmin |
Jan-26-11 04:38 AM |
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Bwah! Indeed. |
WinkyDink |
Jan-26-11 07:24 AM |
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Never. It's far easier to blame and demonize |
liberalhistorian |
Jan-26-11 01:16 PM |
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How do you improve the schools..... |
hakko936 |
Jan-26-11 02:49 PM |
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Who gives a crap? |
blueamy66 |
Jan-26-11 07:45 AM |
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That is precisely what I said - it is the only real solution |
karynnj |
Jan-26-11 08:23 AM |
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I thought that all of Ohio had open enrollment |
Nikia |
Jan-25-11 06:27 PM |
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Please tell me why this woman actually deserves to be jailed for this. |
delightfulstar |
Jan-25-11 06:44 PM |
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No Child Left Behind !!!!!No Child Left Behind!!!!!!!!! |
mstinamotorcity |
Jan-25-11 06:50 PM |
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Why the kids can't choose their schools? |
minavasht |
Jan-25-11 06:52 PM |
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It's called "local control." |
WinkyDink |
Jan-26-11 07:25 AM |
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This headline to the OP seems racist... |
Cid_B |
Jan-25-11 07:03 PM |
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I checked. Fairlawn and Copley are about 87% white |
EFerrari |
Jan-26-11 01:22 PM |
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It was not presented this way on the news this morning... |
Phentex |
Jan-26-11 04:00 PM |
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How very sad |
donheld |
Jan-25-11 09:29 PM |
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This is an outrage |
Tsiyu |
Jan-26-11 05:07 AM |
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So sad when what all she wanted was better for her children |
madokie |
Jan-26-11 05:24 AM |
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But who doesn't? Someone in Podunk can't just up and send their child to |
WinkyDink |
Jan-26-11 07:31 AM |
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The better question is |
bergie321 |
Jan-26-11 11:04 AM |
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Question is, why are public schools based on "wealth" rather than equal education for all? |
defendandprotect |
Jan-26-11 12:47 PM |
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Akron actually has higher per pupil costs. It's just that when money comes from the state... |
joshcryer |
Jan-26-11 04:48 PM |
#126 |
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and Ohio's system for funding schools was found to be unconstitutional- |
Bluerthanblue |
Jan-26-11 06:55 PM |
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Public schools are primarily a county or city issue, not necessarily a state or federal issue. |
Selatius |
Jan-26-11 09:17 PM |
#182 |
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Um, she took them to the bus stop every day. |
joshcryer |
Jan-26-11 04:46 PM |
#125 |
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I think that the headline |
Dorian Gray |
Jan-26-11 07:22 AM |
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Maybe this explains how they found out. |
Esurientes |
Jan-26-11 09:15 PM |
#181 |
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There is no school choice in IL? |
boston bean |
Jan-26-11 07:26 AM |
#74 |
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States with inTER-district "choice" are in the VAST minority (about 15/50). And inTRA-district is |
WinkyDink |
Jan-26-11 07:45 AM |
#77 |
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American Apartheid |
W T F |
Jan-26-11 10:47 AM |
#82 |
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"Because of the felony conviction, you will not be allowed to get your teaching degree under Ohio... |
Faryn Balyncd |
Jan-26-11 11:41 AM |
#84 |
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Jesus wept |
onethatcares |
Jan-26-11 11:44 AM |
#85 |
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Vouchers would end this type of crap. |
hakko936 |
Jan-26-11 11:54 AM |
#86 |
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The school district hired a private investigator to do surveillance to make their case |
csziggy |
Jan-26-11 11:59 AM |
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Probably just felt like making an example of somebody |
Demstud |
Jan-26-11 12:09 PM |
#91 |
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Yes, and I would bet this poor woman paniced and caused the case to get worse |
csziggy |
Jan-26-11 02:15 PM |
#111 |
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that's the part that stuck out in the article to me. they hired a PI to follow them and make a |
Divine Discontent |
Jan-26-11 08:56 PM |
#179 |
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In the U.S.A., it will ALWAYS be seen as proper to discriminate on the basis of $$$ |
Romulox |
Jan-26-11 12:01 PM |
#89 |
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That's terrible. K&R |
pam4water |
Jan-26-11 12:01 PM |
#90 |
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Yeah, they don't like that in O-Hiya. |
Shagbark Hickory |
Jan-26-11 12:11 PM |
#92 |
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So how is one school's education worth $30k more than the other? |
guruoo |
Jan-26-11 12:14 PM |
#93 |
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Because the school charged that much for "out of district" students. They just added up the years. |
joshcryer |
Jan-26-11 05:08 PM |
#146 |
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When we understand that no one from the "white" school would have tried to sneak their kids... |
defendandprotect |
Jan-26-11 12:42 PM |
#94 |
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Wow, just wow!! |
Beacool |
Jan-26-11 12:58 PM |
#96 |
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this is bullshit if the parents had anytype of joint custody, bullshit anyway ie brown v board |
Exultant Democracy |
Jan-26-11 01:38 PM |
#104 |
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A travesty |
blackspade |
Jan-26-11 01:52 PM |
#108 |
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FELONY charges?? Are you shitting me?? |
Blue_Tires |
Jan-26-11 03:57 PM |
#114 |
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The blog in the first link is gone. Probably because of the racist heading... |
Phentex |
Jan-26-11 04:03 PM |
#116 |
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Sad |
ismnotwasm |
Jan-26-11 04:03 PM |
#117 |
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I hope she can take this to a higher court |
AsahinaKimi |
Jan-26-11 04:08 PM |
#118 |
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Sounds like some good old jury nullification was in order. |
TheKentuckian |
Jan-26-11 04:39 PM |
#120 |
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I know I wouldn't have voted to convict. |
Pithlet |
Jan-26-11 09:30 PM |
#184 |
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I have known white folks who did the same thing.No one ever says a word |
McCamy Taylor |
Jan-26-11 04:48 PM |
#127 |
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sad but true- |
Bluerthanblue |
Jan-26-11 05:08 PM |
#145 |
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why would she send her kids to a predominantly white school? |
crazyjoe |
Jan-26-11 05:48 PM |
#167 |
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because the school in her district was really bad! |
democracy1st |
Jan-27-11 01:16 AM |
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Shocking turnaround |
Rev. Nancy |
Jan-26-11 06:09 PM |
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Isn't Ohio's school funding still "Unconstitutional"? if the school |
Bluerthanblue |
Jan-26-11 06:50 PM |
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K&R. This story needs to go national!!! |
Pryderi |
Jan-27-11 01:09 AM |
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It is national. I saw it on CNN this evening. nt |
Liquorice |
Jan-27-11 01:33 AM |
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