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44. too soon tbh
clearly they are not ready for democracy. if they were, would they be running amok in the streets right now? the answer is no.
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  -All Hell has broken loose in Egypt. The Guardian's doing live updates. Joanne98  Jan-25-11 10:31 AM   #0 
  - I checked all the cable news chans and nada  eleny   Jan-25-11 10:39 AM   #1 
  - Why the big secret here?/  RockaFowler   Jan-25-11 12:51 PM   #22 
  - Because they don't want us getting any ideas.  cui bono   Jan-25-11 05:11 PM   #78 
     - My online newspaper the Bangor Daily News in upper state Maine  molly77   Jan-25-11 06:00 PM   #84 
     - I think they are a little braver in north africa than I am  iamhuman   Jan-25-11 06:34 PM   #89 
     - Got me thinking, too...  elzenmahn   Jan-25-11 10:40 PM   #100 
        - Usually, those with nothing to lose  NOLALady   Jan-26-11 10:01 AM   #144 
     - Our corporate aristocracy wont like this, n/t  fasttense   Jan-26-11 05:43 AM   #136 
  - Mubarak is a US ally. That's why the crickets.  Odin2005   Jan-25-11 03:17 PM   #60 
  - Well, it was just on the ABC evening news.  thanks_imjustlurking   Jan-25-11 05:44 PM   #83 
  - Same here. This is all I found..  Shagbark Hickory   Jan-25-11 04:47 PM   #73 
  - FYI: Many DUers won't click on mysterious links. nt  ZombieHorde   Jan-25-11 10:06 PM   #99 
  - LA Times  sce56   Jan-25-11 05:37 PM   #82 
  - Do you think the Tunisian uprising might have helped spark this? nt  tblue37   Jan-25-11 10:52 AM   #2 
  - One of the protesters in the article says so.  Kablooie   Jan-25-11 10:54 AM   #3 
  - Yes, definitely. Other oppressed Arab countries have  sabrina 1   Jan-25-11 12:30 PM   #15 
  - I can only imagine  femrap   Jan-26-11 09:16 AM   #140 
     - That would be the best outcome, but so far he shows no sign  sabrina 1   Jan-26-11 01:03 PM   #152 
  - That has everything to do with it.  TheBigotBasher   Jan-25-11 02:42 PM   #40 
  - Yes  BobbyBoring   Jan-25-11 04:38 PM   #68 
  - Bring it to the centers of civil and religious power! Good luck over there.  GodlessBiker   Jan-25-11 11:06 AM   #4 
  - Is Hosni hosed?  MilesColtrane   Jan-25-11 11:14 AM   #5 
  - Key sentence: The Egyptian goverment has been trying to shut down twitter and facebook.  WinkyDink   Jan-25-11 11:42 AM   #6 
  - Hey.... maybe we can start a meme that our Congress  Kalyke   Jan-25-11 11:46 AM   #8 
  - Well, I did start a thread...... :-)  WinkyDink   Jan-25-11 02:11 PM   #33 
  - Well spotted  mrfrapp   Jan-25-11 05:00 PM   #75 
  - Mubarak is a dictator, but I love Egypt and this frightens me...  hlthe2b   Jan-25-11 11:43 AM   #7 
  - Yeah, that's the problem with revolutions.  MilesColtrane   Jan-25-11 12:19 PM   #10 
  - I'd like to see Mohamed ElBaradei become president  muriel_volestrangler   Jan-25-11 12:20 PM   #11 
  - Sounds good to me--hope he can pull it off n/t  eridani   Jan-25-11 11:03 PM   #101 
  - According to my co-worker, they are rioting because of the police  justiceischeap   Jan-25-11 12:22 PM   #12 
  - See my post to Sabrina below. I have lived & worked there...  hlthe2b   Jan-25-11 12:49 PM   #21 
  - Just curious, do you thin Iran would be better if the Shah was still in power?  Puregonzo1188   Jan-25-11 02:55 PM   #46 
     - I think if peaceful revolution had been supported by western nations  hlthe2b   Jan-25-11 03:09 PM   #53 
  - that's often the way it starts. nt  tomp   Jan-26-11 05:22 AM   #130 
  - So, what's the answer? How do you get rid of a dictator?  GodlessBiker   Jan-25-11 12:26 PM   #13 
  - I think they do need to be planning for Mubarak's exit...  hlthe2b   Jan-25-11 12:52 PM   #23 
     - Yes, there is risk. But you can't win if you don't play. Revolution can yield good things, too.  GodlessBiker   Jan-25-11 02:58 PM   #49 
     - I agree. They may move from a secular government if the uprising is successful.  MidwestTransplant   Jan-25-11 09:09 PM   #97 
  - That was my thought. A "revolution" that makes things worse. dc  david13   Jan-25-11 12:28 PM   #14 
  - Revolutions usually spark because things can't get any worse  liberation   Jan-25-11 05:09 PM   #77 
     - Just when you think things couldn't get any worse, they do. dc  david13   Jan-25-11 08:19 PM   #94 
        - That is usually what the ones who do not get the memo regarding the revolt say  liberation   Jan-26-11 02:19 AM   #118 
           - Because the ones forced to revolt can't lose body parts, or their  david13   Jan-26-11 11:41 AM   #151 
  - Maybe if you lived under Mbarak's iron, oppressive rule  sabrina 1   Jan-25-11 12:36 PM   #18 
  - I HAVE LIVED AND WORKED THERE...  hlthe2b   Jan-25-11 12:46 PM   #20 
     - There is never any guarantee that a revolution will solve  sabrina 1   Jan-25-11 01:31 PM   #26 
        - That is certainly an obvious statement...  hlthe2b   Jan-25-11 01:41 PM   #27 
        - If the U.S. and other Western powers would accept  sabrina 1   Jan-25-11 02:08 PM   #30 
           - I agree....  hlthe2b   Jan-25-11 02:10 PM   #32 
           - Thank you for the civil discussion ~  sabrina 1   Jan-25-11 02:16 PM   #34 
              - absolutely...  hlthe2b   Jan-25-11 02:39 PM   #39 
              - It's refreshing to see an intelligent, civil, and agreeable disagreement  FlaGatorJD   Jan-25-11 03:53 PM   #65 
              - That is very nice of you to say, thank you!  sabrina 1   Jan-25-11 06:21 PM   #87 
              - Yes, I enjoyed following  femrap   Jan-26-11 09:30 AM   #142 
           - Exactamundo  BobbyBoring   Jan-25-11 04:44 PM   #71 
           - These uprisings are complex, and the whole context needs to be discussed to properly understand  liberation   Jan-25-11 05:17 PM   #79 
           - You miss the point in several important aspects  hlthe2b   Jan-25-11 06:41 PM   #90 
           - Technically it is not that I missed the point as much as you wanted to let us know "you were there"  liberation   Jan-26-11 02:33 AM   #120 
              - So one can only speak when spoken to here?  JTFrog   Jan-26-11 05:35 AM   #133 
           - Good post. You would think we would learn from history  sabrina 1   Jan-26-11 01:18 PM   #153 
           - imperialism is constitutionally incapable of "giving up"....  tomp   Jan-26-11 05:31 AM   #131 
        - The consequence of this and other revolutions  dotymed   Jan-26-11 09:03 AM   #138 
  - an Islamic Extremist takeover in Egypt will set Israel on edge  dugaresa   Jan-25-11 01:15 PM   #25 
  - they have tweeted and mostly say they want DEMOCRACY-not inherited power  StarsInHerHair   Jan-26-11 03:18 AM   #123 
  - from what reporting I've been seeing and reading, it is Egyptians  Joe Fields   Jan-25-11 02:50 PM   #43 
     - that's not what I am implying. I do not doubt it is all inclusive...  hlthe2b   Jan-25-11 02:54 PM   #45 
        - History is replete with this problem.  Swede   Jan-25-11 03:21 PM   #63 
           - No shit. I agree. Lets hope it doesn't happen.  Confusious   Jan-25-11 04:45 PM   #72 
           - Yeah, the Russian Revolution comes to mind in that regard...  Raksha   Jan-25-11 08:44 PM   #95 
  - Also on BBC.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Jan-25-11 11:48 AM   #9 
  - Live Feed on usstream  sixmile   Jan-25-11 12:30 PM   #16 
  - ah the dominoes start to go  nadinbrzezinski   Jan-25-11 12:32 PM   #17 
  - Just alerted the Hartmman program too  nadinbrzezinski   Jan-25-11 12:40 PM   #19 
  - Solidarity with the people of Egypt. nt  TBF   Jan-25-11 01:12 PM   #24 
  - horrible news  BOG PERSON   Jan-25-11 01:54 PM   #28 
  - "making egypt safe for democracy in the not-too-distant future"  Boojatta   Jan-25-11 02:46 PM   #41 
  - too soon tbh  BOG PERSON   Jan-25-11 02:53 PM   #44 
     - I guess France and Britain aren't ready either.  redwitch   Jan-25-11 02:56 PM   #48 
     - how can you be democratic or undemocratic?  BOG PERSON   Jan-25-11 03:13 PM   #54 
        - Well to clarify there were 100's of thousands of people with me.  redwitch   Jan-25-11 03:17 PM   #59 
     - I suppose Tunisia, nearly all of Latin America  sabrina 1   Jan-25-11 03:07 PM   #52 
     - That is circular logic.  tekisui   Jan-25-11 03:14 PM   #55 
        - no, that's mob rule you're thinking of.  BOG PERSON   Jan-25-11 03:18 PM   # 
           - You have to demand a polling place. Dictators don't offer it up.  tekisui   Jan-25-11 03:19 PM   #62 
           - Yes, which is why there is a need for a revolution when  sabrina 1   Jan-25-11 06:28 PM   #88 
  - Did you forget the Sarcasm tag?  Puregonzo1188   Jan-25-11 02:56 PM   #47 
  - Mubarak has had Egypt under emergency law since 1981  NuclearDem   Jan-25-11 02:59 PM   #50 
  - but that's "democratic" emergency law, dontcha know. nt  tomp   Jan-26-11 05:40 AM   #135 
  - no he is anti-democratic  StarsInHerHair   Jan-26-11 03:16 AM   #122 
  - obviously a substantial group of EGYPTIANS disagrees.  tomp   Jan-26-11 05:38 AM   #134 
  - al jazeera link...  spanone   Jan-25-11 01:57 PM   #29 
  - Thanks. Great pictures. But a note on Al-Jazeera  Catherina   Jan-25-11 11:11 PM   #103 
     - There are two Al Jazeeras and we have to be careful not to conlfate the two  Turborama   Jan-26-11 01:08 AM   #110 
        - I hope so. Thanks! n/t  Catherina   Jan-26-11 02:14 AM   #117 
        - Al Jazeera talk corresp Mohmd Shakir alashmawi arrested in #Egypt  Catherina   Jan-26-11 04:11 AM   #128 
           - Reporter on the phone now saying the protests are picking up again  Turborama   Jan-26-11 09:13 AM   #139 
              - Al-Jazeera blocked  Catherina   Jan-26-11 10:44 AM   #147 
  - Just spotted a twitter msg saying  rabs   Jan-25-11 02:09 PM   #31 
  - Great photo of one protest.  pampango   Jan-25-11 02:17 PM   #35 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Jan-25-11 02:25 PM   #36 
  - One of those guys  hulka38   Jan-25-11 07:12 PM   #92 
  - Wow! More power to them. Thanks n/t  Catherina   Jan-25-11 11:12 PM   #104 
  - keep updating us  Liberal_in_LA   Jan-25-11 02:26 PM   #37 
  - The House of Saud  UnrepentantLiberal   Jan-25-11 02:36 PM   #38 
  - No shit! Saudi Arabia is a fundamentalist theocracy already.  Raksha   Jan-25-11 08:50 PM   #96 
  - They're probably worried that they are next.  agentS   Jan-25-11 09:57 PM   #98 
  - I wonder what it's gonna take for us?  Initech   Jan-25-11 02:48 PM   #42 
  - This is the part where we step up and ensure a peaceful transition  NuclearDem   Jan-25-11 03:02 PM   #51 
  - You know damn well that will never happen.  tekisui   Jan-25-11 03:17 PM   #58 
  - I know...but a man can dream, can't he?  NuclearDem   Jan-25-11 03:18 PM   #61 
  - God, what American arrogance.  aquart   Jan-25-11 04:52 PM   #74 
     - Ah, sorry, forgot I was being arrogant about the "bastion of human rights"  NuclearDem   Jan-25-11 06:09 PM   #86 
  - Tiananmen-style moment in Cairo  rabs   Jan-25-11 03:14 PM   #56 
  - GO EGYPTIANS!  Odin2005   Jan-25-11 03:17 PM   #57 
  - Power to the People!  tekisui   Jan-25-11 03:22 PM   #64 
  - Which people is the question  Confusious   Jan-25-11 04:41 PM   #70 
     - The people want democracy. I support that.  tekisui   Jan-25-11 05:01 PM   #76 
  - Actually  Confusious   Jan-25-11 04:39 PM   #69 
  - just this once i'd like to see the U.S. not support the dictator and support  xchrom   Jan-25-11 03:59 PM   #66 
  - Does Egypt allow US corporations access to their oil?  bergie321   Jan-25-11 05:33 PM   #81 
     - Does Egypt have significant out? Nt  xchrom   Jan-25-11 06:02 PM   #85 
  - 3 dead as police battle protesters in Egypt  Joanne98   Jan-25-11 04:09 PM   #67 
  - They had to start killing people. I was hoping they would not.  sabrina 1   Jan-25-11 07:01 PM   #91 
  - I wonder  bergie321   Jan-25-11 05:31 PM   #80 
  - No, the Rethugs will be crowing that Iran is behind it and we should  OwnedByFerrets   Jan-25-11 07:58 PM   #93 
  - "O Mubarak. O Mubarak. Saudi Arabia is waiting for you."  Catherina   Jan-25-11 11:09 PM   #102 
  - Hillary Rodham Clinton foolishly threw the administration's weight behind Mubarak  Catherina   Jan-25-11 11:31 PM   #105 
  - This may have been posted already but they shut down  mackerel   Jan-26-11 12:37 AM   #106 
     - They think that's gonna stop anything? Interesting. Thanks. Someone remind  Catherina   Jan-26-11 12:45 AM   #107 
  - I am so enthralled.  Kalyke   Jan-26-11 12:54 AM   #108 
  - "Its raining (US-made) tear gas"  Catherina   Jan-26-11 01:01 AM   #109 
  - Picture  Catherina   Jan-26-11 02:11 AM   #116 
  - Egypt gets its Tiananmen square moment.  Catherina   Jan-26-11 01:33 AM   #111 
  - "They will never learn: @StateDept releases new statement "  Catherina   Jan-26-11 01:37 AM   #112 
  - GREAT Pictures here  Catherina   Jan-26-11 01:41 AM   #113 
  - Day 2. "Security forces in Alexandria joining protestors, removing uniform despite orders to shoot"  Catherina   Jan-26-11 01:50 AM   #114 
  - "Tonight in Cairo, the Parliament is Surrounded" (Firsthand account)  Catherina   Jan-26-11 01:57 AM   #115 
  - 3 Gov't websites unavailable. Courtesy of Anonymous  Catherina   Jan-26-11 02:20 AM   #119 
  - Advice from the Tunisians, protestors gathering, Day 2 of Rage  Catherina   Jan-26-11 03:02 AM   #121 
  - 3 badly hurt today. Protesters breaking through police barriers in Cairo  Catherina   Jan-26-11 03:24 AM   #124 
  - About the women. Not sure if this is true but  Catherina   Jan-26-11 03:56 AM   #126 
  - Egyptian stock market crashing.  Catherina   Jan-26-11 03:45 AM   #125 
  - I wonder how this is being reported in Iran? nt  Javaman   Jan-26-11 09:28 AM   #141 
     - "Egypt on its way to democracy"  Catherina   Jan-26-11 10:48 AM   #148 
  - Complete crackdown on all protesters.  Catherina   Jan-26-11 04:09 AM   #127 
  - I remember traveling to Egypt on one of the first American tours there after Sadat took over...  cascadiance   Jan-26-11 04:54 AM   #129 
  - Depressing for sure. I don't think the Egyptians have been too amused by  Catherina   Jan-26-11 05:32 AM   #132 
     - Thanks for keeping us informed.  formercia   Jan-26-11 10:14 AM   #145 
        - You're welcome. It's fun sifting through all those twitters  Catherina   Jan-26-11 10:42 AM   #146 
  - Love this quote -  TBF   Jan-26-11 07:43 AM   #137 
  - Mubarak's family fled to UK?  supernova   Jan-26-11 09:39 AM   #143 
  - US Embassy official denied this  Catherina   Jan-26-11 10:50 AM   #149 
  - Live Video, ALL Internet access from #Shubra District in Cairo, Amazing photo  Catherina   Jan-26-11 10:53 AM   #150 
 

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