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Edited on Mon Jan-24-11 10:22 PM by quaker bill
They like to call it "making the economy more competitive". What they do not call it is "reducing worker wages and benefits". However the phrases have precisely the same meaning. Free trade, bashing unions, invention of the 401K, reducing capital gains taxes, reducing upper level income taxes, and deregulation, were all policies aimed in this direction. They are finally getting near the "mission accomplished" stage, all they need to do now is privatize social security, shutter free public schools, default on government pensions, and the job will be pretty much complete.
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| -The Boomers are being forced out of the labor market and stripped of |
Skidmore |
Jan-24-11 11:08 AM |
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Have you also noticed the push to demonize boomers in editorials? |
jtown1123 |
Jan-24-11 11:10 AM |
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Yes, and it is done on these forums too. |
Skidmore |
Jan-24-11 11:16 AM |
#3 |
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I think many boomers are self serving navel gazers. |
MedicalAdmin |
Jan-25-11 09:27 AM |
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I'm waiting for them to riot. Getting close to that. |
decidedlyso |
Jan-25-11 10:57 AM |
#160 |
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you bet it's done in these forums. |
trud |
Jan-25-11 10:22 AM |
#145 |
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I went back to retrain at a local community college. When the |
Skidmore |
Jan-25-11 10:40 AM |
#152 |
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I'm now retired but I long ago had deleted lots of work history on my resume. |
CTyankee |
Jan-25-11 11:19 AM |
#167 |
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You DO know that age discrimination |
TicketyBoo |
Jan-25-11 11:39 AM |
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TicketyBoo |
trud |
Jan-26-11 05:30 PM |
#200 |
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Rush Limbaugh has been trashing the boomers since about |
demigoddess |
Jan-24-11 12:09 PM |
#10 |
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Somebody needs to point out... |
CubicleGuy |
Jan-24-11 10:54 PM |
#85 |
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And.....Rush is in a Union nt |
Mojeoux |
Jan-25-11 01:23 AM |
#95 |
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You mean the guy that flies to child-sex tourism sites like the Dom. Rep. with Viagra? nt |
right2bfree |
Jan-25-11 04:34 AM |
#107 |
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Now, THAT HAS NEVER BEEN PROVEN!!! |
CLANG |
Jan-25-11 10:59 AM |
#161 |
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We Boomers were the "Shock Troops," of the new millenial consciousness. |
Mojeoux |
Jan-25-11 01:27 AM |
#96 |
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We are expendable |
formercia |
Jan-24-11 11:12 AM |
#2 |
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It has already started w/ GenX. |
xxqqqzme |
Jan-24-11 11:20 AM |
#4 |
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the only generation that has had |
shanti |
Jan-24-11 11:51 AM |
#7 |
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Bingo! |
SheilaT |
Jan-24-11 12:35 PM |
#18 |
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A friend did part of her PhD |
robdogbucky |
Jan-24-11 12:50 PM |
#22 |
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A question |
Bragi |
Jan-24-11 03:32 PM |
#45 |
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Trying to answer... |
robdogbucky |
Jan-24-11 04:44 PM |
#50 |
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I wanted to read your answer before I wrote... |
jtuck004 |
Jan-24-11 09:33 PM |
#77 |
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Yes, I think you have hit on something with forming cooperatives! |
snappyturtle |
Jan-25-11 09:12 AM |
#133 |
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I didn't say it or anything else was a solution |
robdogbucky |
Jan-25-11 11:49 AM |
#176 |
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Sorry, I didn't mean to accuse you of having the answer. |
jtuck004 |
Jan-25-11 11:16 PM |
#194 |
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Boomers are the target of Big Pharma. nt |
valerief |
Jan-25-11 10:52 AM |
#154 |
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Or maybe you didn't read what I wrote... |
robdogbucky |
Jan-25-11 11:28 AM |
#170 |
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It may well be a good topic for an entire forum. |
SheilaT |
Jan-25-11 10:32 AM |
#148 |
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No, she is not on these forums as far as I know |
robdogbucky |
Jan-25-11 11:37 AM |
#172 |
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But do you live a 1940s lifestyle? |
james0tucson |
Jan-25-11 10:48 AM |
#153 |
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No one can do that. The Earth is more polluted. We're more polluted. |
valerief |
Jan-25-11 10:53 AM |
#155 |
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Just for kicks you should check out today's wages vs. those in the 40s-70s |
Doremus |
Jan-25-11 11:15 AM |
#165 |
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You are not describing my parents |
TicketyBoo |
Jan-25-11 11:44 AM |
#174 |
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That is true and not true. Actually, rather than divide by generation, it |
tsuki |
Jan-25-11 11:00 AM |
#162 |
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Exactly, multible jobs, multible layouts -- and now NOT invested in any pension plan .... |
defendandprotect |
Jan-24-11 07:51 PM |
#57 |
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Yep, unemployed again myself since mid December... |
cascadiance |
Jan-24-11 11:29 AM |
#5 |
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So sorry to hear about your family... |
Dappleganger |
Jan-24-11 01:03 PM |
#32 |
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Sorry about your many issues. |
Enthusiast |
Jan-25-11 06:21 AM |
#111 |
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The American work force doesn't vote as a united block |
Johonny |
Jan-24-11 11:55 AM |
#8 |
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That is it in a nutshell... |
ljm2002 |
Jan-24-11 12:31 PM |
#16 |
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All part of the necon wet dream |
robdogbucky |
Jan-24-11 12:53 PM |
#23 |
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One Repug last week wanted to change child labor laws -- !! |
defendandprotect |
Jan-24-11 07:48 PM |
#56 |
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And as if they know what they would be creating, |
Patchuli |
Jan-24-11 08:10 PM |
#66 |
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They want to get rid of excess population. Those that aren't productive. |
haele |
Jan-26-11 02:53 PM |
#198 |
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"plantation mentality" |
Enthusiast |
Jan-25-11 06:26 AM |
#112 |
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Nothing wrong with plantations when you live in a banana republic! |
CLANG |
Jan-25-11 11:05 AM |
#163 |
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We need our own party, "The Old Democratic Party!" n/t |
RKP5637 |
Jan-25-11 01:10 AM |
#92 |
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You've hit upon another important thing. |
SheilaT |
Jan-24-11 12:37 PM |
#19 |
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We need to get buttons out there -- "We are all labor" -- maybe Dems would do it? |
defendandprotect |
Jan-24-11 07:52 PM |
#58 |
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Impoverished people don't give a fig about Democracy or the Republic. |
Octafish |
Jan-24-11 08:13 PM |
#68 |
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Proctor & Bergman |
robdogbucky |
Jan-25-11 12:26 PM |
#178 |
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+100 |
rko_24550 |
Jan-24-11 11:58 PM |
#88 |
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My 62 year-old husband recently took a job cleaning offices..... |
1776Forever |
Jan-24-11 11:39 AM |
#6 |
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15 years ago I met a man who was 73 years old who worked at Walmart for 2 years! |
Major Hogwash |
Jan-24-11 12:04 PM |
#9 |
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My husband worked with a man who was 75 and could work rings around the younger guys! Age doesn't |
1776Forever |
Jan-24-11 12:29 PM |
#15 |
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Indeed, but the point is that they should not have to be working |
Dappleganger |
Jan-24-11 12:54 PM |
#24 |
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Oh, but this country |
BonnieJW |
Jan-25-11 09:29 AM |
#137 |
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Not the point, if it is the elders' decision and not out of real need. |
WinkyDink |
Jan-24-11 12:58 PM |
#26 |
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True but that 75 year-old I refered to wanted to work and did it well. n/t |
1776Forever |
Jan-24-11 01:40 PM |
#41 |
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I can only hope I'm as spry! |
WinkyDink |
Jan-24-11 04:14 PM |
#48 |
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Most elderely are only working BECAUSE there is real need .... !! |
defendandprotect |
Jan-24-11 07:55 PM |
#60 |
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That's simply untrue for most people |
Bragi |
Jan-24-11 02:22 PM |
#42 |
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Bragi |
trud |
Jan-25-11 10:29 AM |
#147 |
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Thank you! It is a personal choice! Everyone is different. n/t |
1776Forever |
Jan-25-11 01:16 PM |
#183 |
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I didn't say that - I said THIS man choose to do that! Jesh! n/t |
1776Forever |
Jan-25-11 01:15 PM |
#182 |
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The unions certainly knew what was happening to them ... |
defendandprotect |
Jan-24-11 07:54 PM |
#59 |
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I'm mystified, too. E.g., DOES the teachers' union know? |
snot |
Jan-24-11 10:07 PM |
#81 |
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At this stage, so many of them are losing their jobs, that it's probably more about |
defendandprotect |
Jan-25-11 10:34 AM |
#149 |
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I wondered the same thing. They told my husband since they just got in they wanted to hold off until |
1776Forever |
Jan-25-11 01:33 PM |
#185 |
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Thanks for contributing your story. |
Enthusiast |
Jan-25-11 06:32 AM |
#114 |
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Thanks - When you read about our "founding Fathers" true beliefs it is truly wonderful! n/t |
1776Forever |
Jan-25-11 01:21 PM |
#184 |
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Not quite |
jeff47 |
Jan-24-11 12:12 PM |
#11 |
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The reason baby boomers have been exempted in these plans... |
ljm2002 |
Jan-24-11 12:33 PM |
#17 |
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and it's not even ALL boomers |
shanti |
Jan-24-11 08:00 PM |
#63 |
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a significant portion think it's a good idea? prove that claim. i haven't heard anything like that |
Hannah Bell |
Jan-25-11 02:11 AM |
#100 |
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Not all boomers are liberals |
jeff47 |
Jan-25-11 07:29 AM |
#125 |
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Really? |
Le Taz Hot |
Jan-25-11 10:38 AM |
#150 |
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K&R- It was policy several decades ago when I was working in a large |
old mark |
Jan-24-11 12:14 PM |
#12 |
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My engineer husband was let go a year ago at 59. Took him |
LibDemAlways |
Jan-24-11 12:37 PM |
#20 |
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They certainly are. |
Dappleganger |
Jan-24-11 12:56 PM |
#25 |
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Nothing - you've got it. The company that laid my husband off is huge - |
LibDemAlways |
Jan-24-11 01:10 PM |
#34 |
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Throwaway workforce, indeed. |
Dappleganger |
Jan-24-11 01:14 PM |
#36 |
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It certainly doesn't do much to |
Enthusiast |
Jan-25-11 06:42 AM |
#116 |
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You've got that right. My daughter, who is a senior in high school, |
LibDemAlways |
Jan-25-11 09:16 AM |
#135 |
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Plus one. |
Enthusiast |
Jan-25-11 06:39 AM |
#115 |
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It began happening immediately after 11/22/63 -- |
defendandprotect |
Jan-24-11 07:57 PM |
#61 |
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Even fierce advocate trashes Boomers |
robdogbucky |
Jan-24-11 12:23 PM |
#13 |
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I read that article (and printed it) at the time. Still have it on my desk. |
DURHAM D |
Jan-24-11 01:38 PM |
#40 |
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by most accounts, Pres. Obama IS a boomer, whether he likes it or not |
spooky3 |
Jan-24-11 06:19 PM |
#52 |
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He must have forgotten that if it weren't for the 60s he probably wouldn't be in the WH. |
Beacool |
Jan-24-11 09:56 PM |
#79 |
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You are so right |
Art_from_Ark |
Jan-25-11 12:51 AM |
#90 |
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I'm with you. |
Enthusiast |
Jan-25-11 06:52 AM |
#119 |
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Good post. nt |
Enthusiast |
Jan-25-11 06:47 AM |
#118 |
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I remember that very well |
PatSeg |
Jan-25-11 09:35 AM |
#138 |
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What in the world do they expect us to do? |
EFerrari |
Jan-24-11 12:26 PM |
#14 |
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"No, Mr. Bond; I expect you to DIE!" |
WinkyDink |
Jan-24-11 12:58 PM |
#28 |
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LOL |
EFerrari |
Jan-24-11 01:00 PM |
#30 |
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I am not disputing your op but when it comes to boomers I have |
jwirr |
Jan-24-11 12:47 PM |
#21 |
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Well, we've always been the vanguard! ;-) |
WinkyDink |
Jan-24-11 12:59 PM |
#29 |
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"so most can now stay in their own homes. " HA HA HA. No. |
bettyellen |
Jan-24-11 07:40 PM |
#54 |
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Nursing homes are for intensive care now. The government will not |
jwirr |
Jan-24-11 11:39 PM |
#86 |
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The red tape is a nightmare.... |
delightfulstar |
Jan-25-11 04:55 AM |
#108 |
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She does sound like she needs more help than in home care. Take the |
jwirr |
Jan-25-11 02:45 PM |
#188 |
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d if you have a house or any assets for them, they will try and fast track you in |
bettyellen |
Jan-25-11 07:55 AM |
#127 |
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AZ seems to be a poor example of government run programs. We |
jwirr |
Jan-25-11 02:49 PM |
#189 |
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Your OP is now the view of many DUers. "We have brought it on ourselves", and "deserve what we get" |
bobbolink |
Jan-24-11 12:58 PM |
#27 |
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Boomers should unite in a HUGE pressure group. We can put pressure |
theophilus |
Jan-24-11 01:02 PM |
#31 |
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See #13 above herein |
robdogbucky |
Jan-24-11 01:11 PM |
#35 |
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I don't think thrid party is the answer. Boomers need to act outside the |
theophilus |
Jan-24-11 02:31 PM |
#43 |
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Corporations are holding us all hostage with the two party monopoly ..... |
defendandprotect |
Jan-24-11 08:11 PM |
#67 |
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+1 |
snot |
Jan-24-11 10:12 PM |
#82 |
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NOTHING is going to move the democratic party.... |
tomp |
Jan-25-11 05:56 AM |
#110 |
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We have 20% unemployed -- counting the long term unemployed ... |
defendandprotect |
Jan-25-11 10:20 AM |
#144 |
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If you are suggesting a third party, I still say that that will only result in |
theophilus |
Jan-25-11 10:39 AM |
#151 |
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Unemployed and employed have to unite -- and act together ... |
defendandprotect |
Jan-24-11 08:01 PM |
#64 |
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Like AARP? nt |
valerief |
Jan-25-11 10:54 AM |
#157 |
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More from that Obama article.... |
robdogbucky |
Jan-24-11 01:08 PM |
#33 |
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"the largest generation in American history, |
PatSeg |
Jan-25-11 09:51 AM |
#143 |
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In a little over seven years, I should be about ready to bail out of it voluntarily |
slackmaster |
Jan-24-11 01:15 PM |
#37 |
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2 years for me, slackmaster. I honestly can barely wait that long. Working |
Nay |
Jan-24-11 04:15 PM |
#49 |
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As go the poor, so go the baby boomers, so go the rest of the younger population. |
ipaint |
Jan-24-11 01:19 PM |
#38 |
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This is chilling. Though the writing has been on the wall for decades. nt |
earth mom |
Jan-24-11 01:24 PM |
#39 |
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Just heard today my B-I-L, Systems analyst is stocking at Target. n/t |
kickysnana |
Jan-24-11 03:05 PM |
#44 |
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I have noticed that RW Gen-Xers LOVE to bash Boomers, and call us LW Millennials... |
Odin2005 |
Jan-24-11 04:09 PM |
#46 |
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They're just mad because their hippie parents abandoned them to tv |
eilen |
Jan-24-11 07:31 PM |
#53 |
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shock and awe, baby |
grasswire |
Jan-24-11 04:13 PM |
#47 |
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they want an entire generation to hop on the ice floe 20-40 years early |
spooky3 |
Jan-24-11 06:17 PM |
#51 |
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I believe you have something there....nt |
Enthusiast |
Jan-25-11 07:05 AM |
#120 |
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Many Boomers are being punished because they stopped the Viet nam war! |
RedCloud |
Jan-24-11 07:42 PM |
#55 |
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Think you're right there -- right wing hates youth, anyway ...!! |
defendandprotect |
Jan-24-11 08:04 PM |
#65 |
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Well we certainly know they love war now don't we. |
lonestarnot |
Jan-24-11 08:19 PM |
#70 |
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They love war, the profits, the chaos and the violence .... |
defendandprotect |
Jan-24-11 08:41 PM |
#72 |
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Mae! |
dreamnightwind |
Jan-25-11 02:04 AM |
#99 |
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Interesting .... |
defendandprotect |
Jan-25-11 10:28 AM |
#146 |
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I always hoped she was just crazy |
dreamnightwind |
Jan-25-11 12:44 PM |
#180 |
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Well, certainly Mae Brussel was as sane as you can be .... |
defendandprotect |
Jan-25-11 12:54 PM |
#181 |
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Her death was indeed very questionable |
dreamnightwind |
Jan-25-11 06:44 PM |
#191 |
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Interesting and I'd never heard any of that -- thank you! |
defendandprotect |
Jan-25-11 11:01 PM |
#193 |
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LOL |
liberation |
Jan-24-11 10:04 PM |
#80 |
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It stopped because hundreds |
Enthusiast |
Jan-25-11 07:08 AM |
#122 |
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The thought has crossed my mind. nt |
Enthusiast |
Jan-25-11 07:06 AM |
#121 |
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Sums things up. |
Octafish |
Jan-24-11 07:59 PM |
#62 |
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K&R |
amborin |
Jan-24-11 08:14 PM |
#69 |
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What percentage of the population are boomers? |
lonestarnot |
Jan-24-11 08:20 PM |
#71 |
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I've read 80 million boomers, 40 million gen-x and 84 million millenials |
Hestia |
Jan-24-11 09:56 PM |
#78 |
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My 50+ friends are losing their jobs evryday |
Bennyboy |
Jan-24-11 09:05 PM |
#73 |
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And one reason people over 50 lose their jobs is because our |
dflprincess |
Jan-24-11 09:17 PM |
#75 |
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only part of the reason... |
Bennyboy |
Jan-24-11 09:29 PM |
#76 |
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When a company needs an experienced worker these days, it can |
LibDemAlways |
Jan-25-11 12:08 AM |
#89 |
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Exactly |
Enthusiast |
Jan-25-11 07:15 AM |
#123 |
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You too, huh? Me too since 2002. |
Gman |
Jan-24-11 09:06 PM |
#74 |
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This always was the plan |
quaker bill |
Jan-24-11 10:21 PM |
#83 |
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Exactly--their goal is a return to the feudal system |
vssmith |
Jan-25-11 03:50 AM |
#103 |
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I would not know about feudal |
quaker bill |
Jan-25-11 05:14 AM |
#109 |
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I was being somewhat facaetious and inaccurate about feudal comment but... |
vssmith |
Jan-25-11 06:29 AM |
#113 |
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Had an UI Administrative law judge ask me why I didnt have any rejection letters..... |
right2bfree |
Jan-24-11 10:37 PM |
#84 |
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Didn't you have any electronic trail? |
prolesunited |
Jan-25-11 01:17 AM |
#93 |
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MSM is pitting the Boomers |
femrap |
Jan-24-11 11:55 PM |
#87 |
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Damn straight !!! |
right2bfree |
Jan-25-11 04:33 AM |
#105 |
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This is a class issue . . . the American myth of equality covers it up |
janet118 |
Jan-25-11 08:26 AM |
#129 |
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I grew up lower-middle, |
femrap |
Jan-25-11 12:22 PM |
#177 |
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I've started the conversation . . . |
janet118 |
Jan-25-11 01:41 PM |
#186 |
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I tried to message you |
femrap |
Jan-26-11 09:36 AM |
#195 |
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Weird . . . I'll try to change the message option |
janet118 |
Jan-26-11 01:34 PM |
#196 |
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Just checked my options . . . |
janet118 |
Jan-26-11 01:37 PM |
#197 |
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Maybe TPTB |
femrap |
Jan-26-11 04:40 PM |
#199 |
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K & R and bookmarked by another old Boomer, |
Raksha |
Jan-25-11 01:09 AM |
#91 |
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The documentary "Shmatta," about the NY clothing industry said |
Mojeoux |
Jan-25-11 01:22 AM |
#94 |
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I think I'd like to see that documentary. |
Raksha |
Jan-25-11 02:26 AM |
#102 |
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This won't bring me any new popularity, but |
dimbear |
Jan-25-11 01:30 AM |
#97 |
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Not that I don't care about your situation. But maybe the boomers now know how.... |
HEyHEY |
Jan-25-11 01:53 AM |
#98 |
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wtf? that kind of attitude is why we're in trouble. |
Hannah Bell |
Jan-25-11 02:12 AM |
#101 |
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I j ust get pissed when I hear boomers |
HEyHEY |
Jan-25-11 09:58 PM |
#192 |
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"working twice as hard for half as much" |
ornotna |
Jan-25-11 11:28 AM |
#171 |
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Too bad that all of this will eventually end in a violent revolt that will make 1775 look tame. nt |
right2bfree |
Jan-25-11 04:08 AM |
#104 |
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And the bad part is... |
Hubert Flottz |
Jan-25-11 04:33 AM |
#106 |
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Hold it! I've got $2000 |
Uben |
Jan-25-11 06:42 AM |
#117 |
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The modern Mr. Potter |
Ochsfan |
Jan-25-11 11:47 AM |
#175 |
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When You've Maxed Out The Card... |
KharmaTrain |
Jan-25-11 07:18 AM |
#124 |
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Corporations rather have cheap labor from India and China than any American of any age |
Larkspur |
Jan-25-11 07:52 AM |
#126 |
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Thank Ronald Reagan. |
dendrobium |
Jan-25-11 08:24 AM |
#128 |
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The "Employer's View" is . . . |
TomClash |
Jan-25-11 08:52 AM |
#130 |
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If you all haven't noticed, every generation is screwed. |
KillCapitalism |
Jan-25-11 09:00 AM |
#131 |
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IMO, there is a third possibility that may occur when anyone retires. |
raccoon |
Jan-25-11 09:36 AM |
#139 |
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But |
Action |
Jan-25-11 09:42 AM |
#142 |
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58 and out of work for over 2 years |
LiberalEsto |
Jan-25-11 09:09 AM |
#132 |
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Wanted to add a note this morning and the editing period is past for the OP. |
Skidmore |
Jan-25-11 09:15 AM |
#134 |
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Mystery |
Action |
Jan-25-11 09:40 AM |
#140 |
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Yeah, this was a big mistake, but I understand it. There are two |
decidedlyso |
Jan-25-11 10:53 AM |
#156 |
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Imprinting. They've been imprinted with jingoistic jargon and hypnotically respond to it. |
valerief |
Jan-25-11 10:55 AM |
#158 |
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KnR |
KansDem |
Jan-25-11 09:40 AM |
#141 |
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Kicked and recommended strongly. nt |
woo me with science |
Jan-25-11 10:55 AM |
#159 |
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How could the largest group be so victimized? |
treestar |
Jan-25-11 11:06 AM |
#164 |
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I agree!!! |
bvar22 |
Jan-25-11 11:21 AM |
#168 |
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Do you have proof it was the boomers? |
treestar |
Jan-25-11 11:25 AM |
#169 |
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I blame "Boomers" for most of the major problems |
BrightSideOfLife |
Jan-25-11 11:18 AM |
#166 |
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Ronald Reagan was not a boomer |
riverbendviewgal |
Jan-25-11 12:42 PM |
#179 |
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Well, then you came to that opinion how? |
CLANG |
Jan-25-11 01:53 PM |
#187 |
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Yup. They wanted more candy. Then ate it all. |
cottonseed |
Jan-25-11 02:50 PM |
#190 |
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