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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 08:00 AM
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4. I don't think this was jury nullification.
He simply did not break any laws.
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  -Jury: You Do Not Need to Show ID to Fly; Yes, You can Video TSA! TeaBagsAreForCups  Jan-23-11 07:49 AM   #0 
  - Excellent!  elias49   Jan-23-11 07:53 AM   #1 
  - I forget where in the Constitution that it mentions a 90 ton device that is  PBS Poll-435   Jan-23-11 10:43 AM   #14 
     - Then yhou must "Show your Papers" when you gas-up your vehicle  rustydog   Jan-23-11 11:39 AM   #17 
        - What right exists in the Constitution to board a hollow fuselage?  PBS Poll-435   Jan-23-11 11:48 AM   #18 
        - If you did no wrong you've nothing to fear  Populist_Prole   Jan-23-11 11:56 AM   #19 
  - We need more of this.  hobbit709   Jan-23-11 07:55 AM   #2 
  - You should update us Monday when they follow up with  hlthe2b   Jan-23-11 07:59 AM   #3 
  - I don't think this was jury nullification.  Xipe Totec   Jan-23-11 08:00 AM   #4 
  - +1 n/t  n2doc   Jan-23-11 08:10 AM   #5 
  - It was an upholding of our highest laws.  backscatter712   Jan-23-11 11:33 AM   #16 
  - Agreed --  snot   Jan-23-11 12:42 PM   #22 
  - Good! Keep fighting! This outrageous assault on the Fourth Amendment must not stand. nt  woo me with science   Jan-23-11 08:13 AM   #6 
  - so the order to show ID at TSA checkpoints is unlawful?  yodermon   Jan-23-11 08:20 AM   #7 
  - Not quite.  Xipe Totec   Jan-23-11 08:48 AM   #8 
     - Will be interesting to see if they act to control that loophole. n/t  JohnyCanuck   Jan-23-11 09:03 AM   #9 
        - The General Counsel of TSA...  TeaBagsAreForCups   Jan-23-11 11:15 AM   #15 
  - Also of note  notesdev   Jan-23-11 09:04 AM   #10 
  - Hmm, new bumper sticker that should lead to some conversations:  Mist   Jan-23-11 09:09 AM   #11 
  - Video of Mocek and his encounter with TSA (used by the prosecution)  JohnyCanuck   Jan-23-11 10:28 AM   #12 
  - How much did he spend on his attorney? How much time did he  david13   Jan-23-11 10:37 AM   #13 
  - Disagree. If even .01% of passengers did it, this farce would have been over long ago.  snot   Jan-23-11 12:41 PM   #21 
  - Yeah, but do you understand americans? Not .00000000000001  david13   Jan-23-11 05:27 PM   #24 
  - If .01% of passengers did that, then the flights would only be 99.99% as full.  Warren DeMontague   Jan-23-11 05:33 PM   #28 
  - It sets a precedent for future cases.  progressoid   Jan-23-11 03:11 PM   #23 
  - Actually, it doesn't. The jury determines facts. There is no precedent  david13   Jan-23-11 05:29 PM   #26 
  - What price do you put on standing up for your rights?  LisaL   Jan-24-11 12:30 AM   #38 
  - He didn't spend any money on lawyers, he didn't make a rebuttal.  Sirveri   Jan-24-11 06:39 AM   #43 
  - [self-delete -- redundant of comment above.]  snot   Jan-23-11 12:39 PM   #20 
  - Recommend  Poboy   Jan-23-11 05:28 PM   #25 
  - No, that means the jury said it's not a crime to not show your ID. That does NOT mean  Warren DeMontague   Jan-23-11 05:31 PM   #27 
  - He's been doing it for two years.  ret5hd   Jan-23-11 08:15 PM   #31 
     - And in those 2 years, have they ever actually let him on the plane without an ID?  Warren DeMontague   Jan-23-11 11:00 PM   #34 
        - You don't have to have ID to board a domestic flight.  Hassin Bin Sober   Jan-23-11 11:14 PM   #35 
           - Okay.  Warren DeMontague   Jan-24-11 12:20 AM   #37 
              - He's been doing it for two years.  Hassin Bin Sober   Jan-24-11 12:32 AM   #39 
                 - I stand corrected.  Warren DeMontague   Jan-24-11 02:16 AM   #42 
  - So? Do you imagine the TSA gives a rat's ass? This will change NOTHING they do.  Richard Steele   Jan-23-11 05:35 PM   #29 
  - It means that brave patriots who refuse to show their IDs before getting on airplanes  Warren DeMontague   Jan-23-11 05:37 PM   #30 
     - And if a lot of people decide to find other ways to get where  LisaL   Jan-24-11 12:33 AM   #40 
        - Sure. Methinks that the planes won't be so fucking overcrowded.  Warren DeMontague   Jan-24-11 02:15 AM   #41 
  - I don't think that was jury nullification. What law are you saying he actually violated?  Towlie   Jan-23-11 08:50 PM   #32 
  - Now if it can be found that it's not legal for them to grope your crotch  Matariki   Jan-23-11 08:59 PM   #33 
  - I flew without showing any ID. Though I did have my Credit card.  erodriguez   Jan-23-11 11:16 PM   #36 

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