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Reply #4: PS I very much disagree they reflect our culture. It's the other way around. [View All]

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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-06-13 09:03 PM
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4. PS I very much disagree they reflect our culture. It's the other way around.
Edited on Fri Sep-06-13 09:18 PM by No Elephants
We seem to be a lot more idolatrous than we are war like.

Leaders influence us, for good or ill, sometimes without our admitting it or even realizing it. The flip in the poll described in the OP is evidence of that.

So is the flip on DU2 on the issues between the Bush administration and the first Obama administration. Bush's D of J does X; DU universally condemns it, except maybe for some clearly Republican moles. Obama's D of J does the same thing or worse (from a traditional Democrat's point of view) and a lot of DUer defend it or falsely claim Obama has nothing to do with it, or make ad hominem attacks on posters who complained about the D of J's actions. Same thing if Obama's fingerprints were undeniably on something.

Even with Hitler, there was a very large pacifist movement in the US until Pearl Harbor, peopled with some very prominent names, like Lindbergh.

If the people wanted war, all the propaganda and flag waving and ginning up the population would not be necessarily. We would not have had draft card burners, etc.

Maybe there have been pro-war demonstrations, or other populace driven pushes for war, but I personally have never heard of one. Seems to me, it always comes from those who, one way or another, can get their kids out it, if they choose.

Of course, they've purposely sanitized war, taken it off our pesky TV screens and ended the draft, so public resistance has diminished accordingly, but the tide seems to be turning again.
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