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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-08-13 02:21 AM
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Thanks, Enthusiast. Maybe I should google doo wop singers more often?
Edited on Thu Aug-08-13 03:00 AM by No Elephants
No matter what, nothing justified the government's ruining people's lives and careers and getting them blackballed with no trial, simply for refusing to "name names."

That was the only "crime" of some, who had freely admitted attending meetings and maybe even joining the Party at some point in their lives.

Speaking of whom, I wonder how Julian Assange, who refused to name his source, is doing in the embassy these days?



After I learned that the USG got Paypal and Amazon to cut off payments to wikileaks ASAP, with no trial, I cancelled my accounts with both Somehow, that doesn't seem to have helped anything, though.

Assange may indeed be far worse than war criminals for doing the same thing that the NYT did when it got the Pentagon Papers from Ellsberg. I am not sure exactly what the difference is, though.

New York Times Co. v. United States, 403 U.S. 713 (1971), was a landmark decision by the United States Supreme Court on the First Amendment. The ruling made it possible for the New York Times and Washington Post newspapers to publish the then-classified Pentagon Papers without risk of government censorship or punishment.<1>

President Richard Nixon had claimed executive authority to force the Times to suspend publication of classified information in its possession. The question before the court was whether the constitutional freedom of the press, guaranteed by the First Amendment, was subordinate to a claimed need of the executive branch of government to maintain the secrecy of information. The Supreme Court ruled that the First Amendment did protect the right of the New York Times to print the materials.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentagon_Papers_case

Then again, I've been reading that Obama did not so much teach Constitutional law at UChi, but race relations and the 14th amendment. Twelve times, he taught a course entitled " "Current Issues in Racism and the Law."


At the school, Mr. Obama taught three courses, ascending to senior lecturer, a title otherwise carried only by a few federal judges. His most traditional course was in the due process and equal protection areas of constitutional law. His voting rights class traced the evolution of election law, from the disenfranchisement of blacks to contemporary debates over districting and campaign finance. Mr. Obama was so interested in the subject that he helped Richard Pildes, a professor at New York University, develop a leading casebook in the field.

His most original course, a historical and political seminar as much as a legal one, was on racism and law. Mr. Obama improvised his own textbook, including classic cases like Brown v. Board of Education, and essays by Frederick Douglass, W. E. B. Dubois, the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and Malcolm X, as well as conservative thinkers like Robert H. Bork.

Mr. Obama was especially eager for his charges to understand the horrors of the past, students say. He assigned a 1919 catalog of lynching victims, including some who were first raped or stripped of their ears and fingers, others who were pregnant or lynched with their children, and some whose charred bodies were sold off, bone fragment by bone fragment, to gawkers.


http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/30/us/politics/30law.htm...

Also: "Mr. Obama arrived at the law school in 1991 thanks to Michael W. McConnell, a conservative scholar who is now a federal appellate judge."

File that article under "another thing I wish I had seen and read more critically before donating more than I could afford to Obama's campaign." Then again, I would have dismissed it as thinly-disguised RW attack on Obama, designed to discredit him with liberal voters. One way or another, I dismissed a lot of facts then.

Thing is, back in 2007-08, I was too busy reading things about Obama for the sole purose of countering the arguments of Republicans and PUMAs. I made up my mind in November 2007. After that, I never let anything really sink in for any purpose other than supporting and defending Obama. And I am not proud of that. Also, I sure wish I had that money back.

Ah, but I was so much older then. I am younger than that now.


Obama on Obama and Bush, in 2007: "I was a constitutional law professor, which means unlike the current president I actually respect the Constitution."

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