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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-13 11:22 AM
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Edited on Tue Jan-15-13 11:34 AM by No Elephants
self-identifying as "progressive," while in the same breath, saying "Obama is nowhere near sufficiently "progressive" enough for me."

In 1919, Teddy Roosevelt formed the Progressive Party after a kerfuffle between him and Taft regarding running for President. Some members of the left wing of the Republican Party joined Teddy. As we all know, Taft prevailed.

Both Hillary and Obama have self-identified as "progressives," with a lower case "P."

Not long ago, Obama also self-identified as a moderate 1980s Republican, saying he believed almost everything that TR believed (so is Obama a moderate 1919 Republican or moderate 1980s Republican?)

Anyhoo, I don't much question Obama's use of the word "progressive" to describe himself, except to say that Obama may not even be the most liberal Republican of the 1980s (or of 1919).

But, Obama and Hillary are only examples. This post is trying to get at something more general, namely the meaning of "progressive," when someone is saying something like, "I wish Obama (or whomever) were really a progressive."



As best I can tell, lower case "progressive" seems to mean today whatever the person using the word thinks it means or wants it to mean.

What does it mean to you?

More specifically, in your opinion, is the difference between a "liberal" position and a "progressive" position, or between a liberal politician and a progressive politician?

Any thoughts?
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