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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-12 04:03 AM
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2. Better than which alternative?
Edited on Sat Dec-15-12 04:27 AM by No Elephants
Jill Stein? Rocky Anderson?

Democratic and Republican were not the only two choices on the ballot.

And are you sure voting "moderate Republican," something that you would never have done in the 1980s, is actually better?

Bush said he would "reform" OASDI, aka Social Security. He failed because Democrats opposed him.

Obama made the same pledge and is on the road to succeeding because Democrats, both those in office and Democratic voters, are supporting him.

I am beginning to see the "more effective evil" argument, but the LOTE (lesser of two evils) argument works for Democratic candidates just as much as the "yellow dog" argument ever did.

It's odd: Republicans insist on voting for what they actually want, while Democratic voters talk about yellow dogs and lesser of two evils.

And, btw, some of Obama's positions have been to the right of those of moderate Republicans in the 1980s, certainly to the right of Nixon--and I am guessing that you would not ever have considered voting for Nixon, either.

What would happen if every Democrat who talked that way voted for what they wanted, instead of voting out of fear that a Republican who is honest enough to admit to being a Republican might win? (Notice, Obama was not honest enough to make this admission until he had nothing to lose.) For instance, wWhat would happen if every Democrat who talked that way voted, say, Green?

Would that at least finally wake up Democratic politicians who think they have nothing to lose by going further and further to the right--that they can lose only by leaning left? If not, how and where will it finally stop?

P.S. If I get banned for this post, happy holidays and a good 2013 to you all, unless, of course, the Mayans are correct, in which case, I'll see you all soon in Mayan heaven (if they have one).
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