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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-12 08:51 PM
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9. Gen. Eric Shinseki...
...Among many others who opposed the war (including our current President I might add).
New Strategy Vindicates Ex-Army Chief Shinseki
Published: January 12, 2007

WASHINGTON, Jan. 11 After President Bush told the nation on Wednesday night that he was ordering a rapid increase of American forces in Iraq, Gen. Eric K. Shinseki was not among the retired officers to offer instant analysis on television.

But the presidents new strategy, with its explicit acknowledgment that not enough troops had been sent to Iraq to establish control, was a vindication for General Shinseki, who as Army chief of staff publicly told Congress as much just before the war began in 2003.

First vilified, then marginalized by the Bush administration after those comments, General Shinseki retired and faded away, even as lawmakers, pundits and politicians increasingly cited his prescience.


He was the target of immediate rebuke from the Pentagon leadership, in particular from Donald H. Rumsfeld, then secretary of defense, and his deputy, Paul D. Wolfowitz. Mr. Wolfowitz dismissed the testimony as wildly off the mark.

Shinseki pissed them off to no end for standing by the "Powell Doctrine" of overwhelming force when even Powell himself was saying do it with 120,000 troops. Shinseki was effectively sacked when he was not promoted and is now the Secretary of Veteran Affairs.

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  -Will Pitt has a Post up on DU-3.... KoKo  Apr-11-12 08:46 PM   #0 
  - Dammit, is there nowhere I can go to be rid of him?  Cronus Protagonist   Apr-11-12 10:06 PM   #1 
  - I can understand your problem with Pitt...but, he's worked hard  KoKo   Apr-12-12 05:25 PM   #5 
  - Thank you for compiling those in one place.  rosesaylavee   Apr-11-12 10:13 PM   #2 
  - I don't get his post. Are we supposed to play "Let's pretend?"  No Elephants   Apr-11-12 11:55 PM   #3 
  - It's interesting...  KoKo   Apr-12-12 08:00 AM   #4 
  - She may have been the first to go to Crawford...  ellisonz   Apr-12-12 07:25 PM   #6 
     - ellisonz...tell me WHO was before Cindy to Defy the Bush/Cheney!  KoKo   Apr-12-12 07:29 PM   #7 
     - BTW/ my replies here.......  KoKo   Apr-12-12 07:44 PM   #8 
     - Susan Sarandan spent her own money on TV commercials to ask  No Elephants   Apr-12-12 11:31 PM   #10 
     - Gen. Eric Shinseki...  ellisonz   Apr-12-12 08:51 PM   #9 
     - Shinseki testified in Congress that we needed a larger post-invasion occupation force than Rumsfeld  No Elephants   Apr-12-12 11:47 PM   #11 
        - Why do you think that pissed them off so much?  ellisonz   Apr-13-12 03:52 AM   #12 
           - Is the issue why Bush was pissed off or what Shinseki did?  No Elephants   Apr-13-12 08:03 AM   #13 
           - Wilson did something similar--pointed out they were mistaken or lying about yellow cake.  No Elephants   Apr-13-12 08:17 AM   #14 
              - The protests were pretty massive...  ellisonz   Apr-13-12 06:39 PM   #18 
     - Me for one, and the thousands and others who protested in Dallas  snooper2   Apr-13-12 10:16 AM   #15 
     - ellisonz, here is why I think Cindy was so important:  KoKo   Apr-13-12 11:21 AM   #16 
        - I would say that for a time...  ellisonz   Apr-13-12 06:34 PM   #17 
           - Mark my words...if you are younger..much than me...You will live to see her vindicated  KoKo   Apr-13-12 07:31 PM   #19 

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