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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-11 03:24 PM
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73. If there are any differences, Obama is fading them faster and faster ...
I'd say, Obama's move to the right is exactly what brought OWS out into

the streets --

and the message is that both parties are finished!


Koch Bros. funded DLC infiltrated and influenced the party for more than 20 years,

including the party agenda and its candidates --

The party is now controlled by Third Way -- and their basic policy/stance is that

"the base of the party is to be ignored" --


Granted there are a FEW Democrats left -- but seemingly there is nothing left of the

Democratic Party which is supportable -- !!


There are still a few Democrats clinging to hope for the next election, and still supporting the people of this country, who are not the same.



Additionally, just to recap -- a few weeks ago I caught Jonathan Cowan on C-span/Washington

Journal -- and he made clear that their stance/policy is "that the base of the party is to

be ignored" --

Additionally, he related to the C-span audience that ...

"populism and populist discussion and debate is the equivalent of Karl Rove propaganda of

extremism" -- !!


Got that? New Deal, Social Security, Medicare, safety nets is Karl Rove extremism!


Who could possibly support any of this?


Yes -- I will support the FEW -- with individual contributions -- but they exist only within

a party under the control of corporations.


If you recall what they did to Byron Dorgan when he tried to move Medicare negotiation on

prescription drugs, you understand the futility of this. Byron's next move was to be to reinstate

Glass-Steagall. After the party abandoned him on the Medicare issue that didn't happen -- and

he announced he wouldn't run for another term.


How much longer are we going to kid ourselves?

Because the longer we wait, the further the party and Congress will move to the RIGHT!


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  -"Each star marks a US millitary base, but just so we're all clear: Iran is threatening us; Earth_First  Dec-09-11 07:58 PM   #0 
  - kick and rec  WildNovember   Dec-09-11 07:59 PM   #1 
  - Support the troops = Support the MIC.  classysassy   Dec-09-11 08:05 PM   #2 
  - Yeah, because your common troop on the ground is aware of the conspiracy.  YellowRubberDuckie   Dec-10-11 08:56 AM   #28 
  - Since when did ignorance become an excuse? n/t  tuckessee   Dec-10-11 11:08 AM   #37 
  - Please see my post to the other poster who replied to my post.  YellowRubberDuckie   Dec-11-11 07:08 AM   #98 
  - At this point, with everything that's happened, there's really no excuse for not getting informed  Downtown Hound   Dec-10-11 12:25 PM   #48 
     - I don't think you understand why or what the average soldier does.  YellowRubberDuckie   Dec-11-11 07:07 AM   #97 
  - There are always crooks spying upon their PREY!  CarmanK   Dec-10-11 11:20 AM   #40 
  - +1  rtassi   Dec-10-11 11:57 AM   #45 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-10-11 07:21 PM   #87 
  - Anyone can see their strategy.  Octafish   Dec-09-11 08:27 PM   #3 
  - Win.  The Doctor.   Dec-09-11 11:23 PM   #11 
  - ++++  KG   Dec-10-11 06:57 AM   #20 
  - Just as that was Bin Laden's goal. And W fell hook line and sinker  jwirr   Dec-10-11 11:06 AM   #36 
  - It's pretty much what we did to the Soviets in the 80's...  SomethingFishy   Dec-10-11 12:44 PM   #52 
  - Hahahah, the Great One, Muhhamed Ali, used to call that Rope-a-Dope. Great observation. nt  Flatulo   Dec-10-11 02:54 PM   #67 
  - Still a lot of borders not all covered  Angry Dragon   Dec-09-11 08:36 PM   #4 
  - So the most evil of them all can rise to prominance?  Mosaic   Dec-10-11 08:49 AM   #27 
  - nothing wrong with "dark sarcasm"! YMMV.  inna   Dec-10-11 12:36 PM   #50 
  - Yeah. What's going on with all those ex-soviet border states? We need bases there!  geckosfeet   Dec-10-11 09:40 AM   #30 
  - Interesting that the biggest oil producer has almost no presence.  Old and In the Way   Dec-09-11 08:56 PM   #5 
  - +1, bingo! n/t  AntiFascist   Dec-10-11 02:31 PM   #65 
  - Looks like Yemen is threatening us, too.  Orrex   Dec-09-11 09:04 PM   #6 
  - Iran is always threatening someone, they've been doing it for centuries. The Middle East is  Welibs   Dec-09-11 09:10 PM   #7 
  - Totally agree.  truedelphi   Dec-10-11 03:05 PM   #69 
  - Glenn Greenwald Wrote an Excellent Editorial on this Subject  Yavin4   Dec-09-11 09:17 PM   #8 
  - Thank you! (I think I'm ordering Glenn's book, right now! :)  inna   Dec-10-11 12:41 PM   #51 
  - Every book and article of his, that I have read, has made sense.  russspeakeasy   Dec-10-11 05:39 PM   #81 
  - THIS is one of the things we mean when we say "lesser of two evils" or...  Bonobo   Dec-09-11 09:25 PM   #9 
  - ++++  KG   Dec-10-11 06:58 AM   #21 
  - No both parties are not the same...Repukes, Dino's, yeller dogs  ooglymoogly   Dec-10-11 12:09 PM   #47 
  - If there are any differences, Obama is fading them faster and faster ...  defendandprotect   Dec-10-11 03:24 PM   #73 
  - +1000% --- supporting evils just keeps us in their pockets!!  defendandprotect   Dec-10-11 03:15 PM   #72 
  - That's what I've been saying all along!  Lydia Leftcoast   Dec-09-11 11:03 PM   #10 
  - Kinda makes ya go  libodem   Dec-09-11 11:36 PM   #12 
  - But, what about the Iranian Nuclear Sub bases in Saskatchewan and Sonora?  Tierra_y_Libertad   Dec-09-11 11:36 PM   #13 
  - Be afraid... be very afraid!  Starry Messenger   Dec-09-11 11:39 PM   #14 
  - Iran certainly isn't the newest bogeyman. If anything they are one of the oldest bogeymen  RZM   Dec-10-11 12:49 PM   #56 
  - NOW we know why we have a debt problem  donheld   Dec-10-11 01:06 AM   #15 
  - This should go viral  Hutzpa   Dec-10-11 01:15 AM   #16 
  - K&R  patrice   Dec-10-11 02:36 AM   #17 
  - K&R  JohnyCanuck   Dec-10-11 05:36 AM   #18 
  - The level of...  GTurck   Dec-10-11 06:37 AM   #19 
  - Actually,  NOLALady   Dec-10-11 09:41 AM   #31 
     - +1000 (n t)  Amonester   Dec-10-11 04:45 PM   #76 
  - The DoD is the single biggest user of refined petroleum products on Earth.  Ikonoklast   Dec-10-11 07:43 AM   #22 
  - The 2nd largest single source of proven petroleum reserves is...  PETRUS   Dec-10-11 11:35 AM   #42 
     - Hovering, hell. They're drooling.  Ikonoklast   Dec-10-11 12:56 PM   #59 
        - No oil -- No War --  defendandprotect   Dec-10-11 03:35 PM   #74 
  - We are in Prince Sultan still?  SHRED   Dec-10-11 07:53 AM   #23 
  - Yeah, thats been gone for a while  sammytko   Dec-10-11 11:09 AM   #39 
  - Anyone guess why this image is not being shown or discussed on ABC-CBS-NBC-BBC-NPR-ETC?  Ford_Prefect   Dec-10-11 08:10 AM   #24 
  - Would be great to see it go viral and in a way that shames the MSM for their lack of coverage...n/t  think   Dec-10-11 09:37 AM   #29 
     - Good luck shaming MSM.  russspeakeasy   Dec-10-11 05:49 PM   #84 
  - Wow.  hulka38   Dec-10-11 08:24 AM   #25 
  - and we are paying for all of that  ensho   Dec-10-11 08:40 AM   #26 
  - Iran threatens the noble nation of Militarybaseiztan.  athenasatanjesus   Dec-10-11 10:03 AM   #32 
  - Funny. nt  ZombieHorde   Dec-10-11 01:47 PM   #62 
  - An interesting article:  polly7   Dec-10-11 10:15 AM   #33 
  - " Hillary Clinton and Barak Obama tell Asad to step down or end the violence immediately, knowing  midnight   Dec-10-11 02:26 PM   #64 
  - K&R (nt)  T S Justly   Dec-10-11 10:21 AM   #34 
  - No Nukes  lsewpershad   Dec-10-11 10:25 AM   #35 
  - when we stop being fools.  KG   Dec-10-11 11:39 AM   #43 
  - Wow, looks like we could crush Iran at a moments notice.  Rex   Dec-10-11 11:08 AM   #38 
  - Our taxes hard at work securing oil for Wall Street CEO Investments...  scentopine   Dec-10-11 11:31 AM   #41 
  - Shared & Thanks!  patrice   Dec-10-11 11:42 AM   #44 
  - What we are just trying to connect the dots. I'm sure if they let US put some bases in Iran  pam4water   Dec-10-11 11:59 AM   #46 
  - The US just has a bad case of obsessive compulsive disorder. Paging Monk n/t  Leopolds Ghost   Dec-10-11 12:49 PM   #55 
  - This picture is very misleading and doesn't show the true nature of Iran's threat to the US.  gtar100   Dec-10-11 12:29 PM   #49 
  - I like it....great idea!!!!  U4ikLefty   Dec-10-11 12:46 PM   #53 
  - DUzy!  Rex   Dec-10-11 12:54 PM   #57 
  - It takes a pie chart to see reality, every time!  L. Coyote   Dec-10-11 12:56 PM   #58 
  - Oh, we're TOTALLY there to look for Al Qaeda.  Leopolds Ghost   Dec-10-11 12:48 PM   #54 
  - Those are WMD search parties, not real military bases.  L. Coyote   Dec-10-11 02:52 PM   #66 
  - Yeah, Shia Iran is a huge supporter of Sunni based Al Qaeda.  Old and In the Way   Dec-10-11 05:47 PM   #83 
  - Where's the  Politicalboi   Dec-10-11 01:32 PM   #60 
  - HIGHLY Recommended reading: PhD Independant Iran Nuke Analysis  WhatsNext   Dec-10-11 01:42 PM   #61 
  - I hope I'm rec 200. n/t  Smarmie Doofus   Dec-10-11 02:22 PM   #63 
  - Map is incorrect  Charlemagne   Dec-10-11 02:56 PM   #68 
  - A complete inversion of reality  malaise   Dec-10-11 03:11 PM   #70 
  - How I'd love to see THAT on the evening news -- !!! What's the MIC worth to elites -- !!  defendandprotect   Dec-10-11 03:12 PM   #71 
  - Of course they are, they threaten all those peaceful bases we have.  ChairmanAgnostic   Dec-10-11 03:45 PM   #75 
  - I hope the Israelis and Saudi's send the American taxpayers a nice thank you note.  harun   Dec-10-11 04:50 PM   #77 
  - Not all are US bases.  gejohnston   Dec-10-11 05:08 PM   #78 
  - Most likely, true...but, from an Iranian viewpoint, that's a distinction without a difference.  Old and In the Way   Dec-10-11 11:58 PM   #96 
  - A waste of money.  Owl   Dec-10-11 05:15 PM   #79 
  - RW radio did the heavy lifting selling us into iraq and is for iran also, while ignored by the left  certainot   Dec-10-11 05:18 PM   #80 
  - Very best OP on DU right now. K&R nt  woo me with science   Dec-10-11 05:42 PM   #82 
  - Fill up those goddamn fuel tanks, fuckers  Blue Owl   Dec-10-11 06:14 PM   #85 
  - The latest pretexts for war are so transparent: "Lost" drone "captured" by Iran, and  qb   Dec-10-11 06:40 PM   #86 
  - Wow. Looks really scary. Until you actually consider....  PavePusher   Dec-10-11 07:28 PM   #88 
  - I think you are...  TeamPooka   Dec-10-11 07:40 PM   #89 
  - Countries with the largest oil reserves -  TBF   Dec-10-11 07:44 PM   #90 
  - Guess it's a matter of time before we invade Canada. nt  athenasatanjesus   Dec-10-11 09:24 PM   #93 
     - Not if they're cooperative - I don't see us invading Saudi.  TBF   Dec-10-11 10:05 PM   #95 
  - Kick. nt  woo me with science   Dec-10-11 08:49 PM   #91 
  - We can't educate build bridges give health care give pensions  lovuian   Dec-10-11 08:57 PM   #92 
  - Kick. nt  woo me with science   Dec-10-11 09:58 PM   #94 
 

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