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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-11 02:04 PM
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17. Should an authority be made aware, hell yes, are they? Many times no...
...and that is yet another reason why this capitulation to the religious-right stinks to high heaven...

I would EXPECT this behaviour from a republican, the fact that it comes from Obama is becoming less and less shocking the more frequently he does it...
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  -HHS: Let's Treat ALL Women Like Children xchrom  Dec-09-11 01:02 PM   #0 
  - I am glad someone other than me notices tylenol. Thanks for the article, k&r  uppityperson   Dec-09-11 01:09 PM   #1 
  - My mother ended up in the emergency room with Tylenol poisoning  lunatica   Dec-10-11 02:32 PM   #136 
     - had an acquaintance come to me complaining about ringing in ears and head  uppityperson   Dec-10-11 02:36 PM   #137 
        - It was the beginning of a very hard time in our lives  lunatica   Dec-10-11 04:02 PM   #138 
  - I have a question about the "plan B" pill and the new laws (trying to be) put in place ...  zbdent   Dec-09-11 01:17 PM   #2 
  - Uh, no. You don't have the facts right.  TheWraith   Dec-09-11 02:35 PM   #26 
     - Uh, no. You don't have the facts right.  uppityperson   Dec-09-11 04:24 PM   #67 
  - You'd almost think they'd rather women commit suicide  tblue   Dec-09-11 01:18 PM   #3 
  - It's all about controlling women, I think. n/t  ProfessionalLeftist   Dec-09-11 04:24 PM   #66 
  - Bingo!  tavalon   Dec-10-11 07:27 AM   #101 
  - Oh, it's definitely a control issue  Aerows   Dec-10-11 07:48 AM   #116 
  - There is just so much more to this than black and white  LynneSin   Dec-09-11 01:18 PM   #4 
  - So you're in favor of parental notification laws, then? Clinics not providing kids w/birth control?  Warren DeMontague   Dec-09-11 01:23 PM   #6 
  - I feel at least if a child is going to a clinic they are going to get an adult  LynneSin   Dec-09-11 01:55 PM   #12 
  - So you were obviously over 18 when you lost your virginity. I wasn't.  Warren DeMontague   Dec-09-11 03:20 PM   #51 
  - having worked reproductive health clinics with teens, we don't follow them home to make sure they  uppityperson   Dec-09-11 04:31 PM   #72 
  - Religion for centuries  Aerows   Dec-10-11 07:58 AM   #118 
  - + 1  musette_sf   Dec-09-11 04:01 PM   #60 
  - And what if it's the parent that got the child pregnant...do they still have to be notified?  truebrit71   Dec-09-11 01:37 PM   #10 
  - If you read what I wrote - I did say I have no issue with a child going to a trusted adult.  LynneSin   Dec-09-11 01:52 PM   #11 
  - Should an authority be made aware, hell yes, are they? Many times no...  truebrit71   Dec-09-11 02:04 PM   #17 
     - Kathleen Sebelius was elected 2 terms as a governor of Kansas even with strong pro-choice background  LynneSin   Dec-09-11 02:15 PM   #21 
        - I respectfully disagree with your assessment...  truebrit71   Dec-09-11 02:29 PM   #25 
        - One doesn't get recommendations from NARAL, Planned Parenthood and Emily's List....  LynneSin   Dec-09-11 02:35 PM   #27 
           - ..unless you are 15 and unsure what to do after your boyfriend forced himself on you..  truebrit71   Dec-09-11 02:41 PM   #30 
           - Yeah and if that was my 15 year old child raped by her boyfriend you better believe  LynneSin   Dec-09-11 02:49 PM   #33 
              - ...and if you weren't around and she was some foster child, or had run away from home?  truebrit71   Dec-09-11 02:58 PM   #39 
              - So the only option then is the girl stays silent and continues to be raped  LynneSin   Dec-09-11 03:09 PM   #43 
                 - you have completely exited the rails with this post  Warren DeMontague   Dec-09-11 03:23 PM   #52 
                 - Wow, way to completely misconstrue my point, and put words in my mouth...  truebrit71   Dec-09-11 04:02 PM   #61 
                 - Well you've done it to me so now you know how I feel  LynneSin   Dec-09-11 04:15 PM   #62 
                 - You've picked a straw man  tavalon   Dec-10-11 07:37 AM   #106 
              - And if she didn't get Plan B, didn't talk with you, she'd be pregnant and you'd be happy  uppityperson   Dec-09-11 04:38 PM   #77 
           - Planned Parenthood and NARAL are strongly opposed to her action, even outraged..  uppityperson   Dec-09-11 04:37 PM   #76 
           - She has been strong in the past - it makes this all the more galling,  tavalon   Dec-10-11 07:34 AM   #105 
        - Common sense  tavalon   Dec-10-11 07:33 AM   #104 
  - I have a hard time picturing the unfortunate child in that  treestar   Dec-09-11 02:18 PM   #23 
  - Yes, it was  tavalon   Dec-10-11 07:32 AM   #103 
  - parents are a biased third party, they have no need to know or consent.  Humanist_Activist   Dec-09-11 02:06 PM   #18 
  - The other point I would make is- If one has a sexually active 10 yr old  notadmblnd   Dec-09-11 02:28 PM   #24 
  - Some kids mature more quickly than others, personally, if I have a daughter...  Humanist_Activist   Dec-09-11 03:37 PM   #56 
     - Actually, if she hits puberty before you have your first talk,  tavalon   Dec-10-11 07:40 AM   #109 
        - Eh, your right, I'd just be straight with my kid about it.  Humanist_Activist   Dec-10-11 04:06 PM   #139 
  - lol. n/t.  okieinpain   Dec-09-11 04:33 PM   #74 
  - What's so funny? n/t  Humanist_Activist   Dec-09-11 05:01 PM   #84 
  - I wholeheartedly agree  tavalon   Dec-10-11 07:38 AM   #107 
  - There's also a giant grey area where kids have a right to consult authorities without their parents  saras   Dec-09-11 02:52 PM   #35 
  - The school thing is to limit the school's liability, not because it is dangerous.  uppityperson   Dec-09-11 04:27 PM   #69 
  - Yes! "No we don't" is as concise and correct a statement as I've heard on this thread.  tavalon   Dec-10-11 07:41 AM   #110 
  - One thing that isn't being discussed is the fact that Plan B  tavalon   Dec-10-11 07:30 AM   #102 
  - Thank You For Being a Voice of Reason  NashVegas   Dec-10-11 01:05 PM   #125 
  - hahahahahahahahahaha  uppityperson   Dec-10-11 01:09 PM   #127 
  - It's about $50 a pop. The likelihood it would be used as you fear is absurd.  PeaceNikki   Dec-10-11 01:59 PM   #130 
  - This crap "decision" was about one thing, and one thing only  Warren DeMontague   Dec-09-11 01:20 PM   #5 
  - Yup.  truebrit71   Dec-09-11 01:33 PM   #8 
  - I don't know who is trying to frighten me more - the anti-choice or the pro-choice  LynneSin   Dec-09-11 01:56 PM   #13 
     - +1  redqueen   Dec-09-11 02:52 PM   #36 
     - No we aren't, ours are realistic, and in addition there are examples of them that abound...  Humanist_Activist   Dec-09-11 03:12 PM   #46 
     - Um, Lynnesin  tavalon   Dec-10-11 07:43 AM   #111 
     - Yeah, god forbid girls realize early that they own their bodies  JoeyT   Dec-10-11 10:47 AM   #121 
        - We Are Talking About Freaking 12 Year Olds!  NashVegas   Dec-10-11 01:07 PM   #126 
           - We are talking about fucking 12 yr olds.  uppityperson   Dec-10-11 01:10 PM   #128 
           - And?  Humanist_Activist   Dec-10-11 02:30 PM   #135 
  - The influence of religion is too strong in this country.  Dawson Leery   Dec-09-11 01:28 PM   #7 
  - FWIW, my reservations have nothing to do with religion  ecstatic   Dec-09-11 02:00 PM   #15 
     - Would a pharmacist suffice? Because that's already required. n/t  Humanist_Activist   Dec-09-11 02:03 PM   #16 
     - Yes! nt  ecstatic   Dec-09-11 02:06 PM   #19 
        - Well, then no issue with you, adult women already need to consult with a pharmacist...  Humanist_Activist   Dec-09-11 02:08 PM   #20 
     - I would hope that an underage girl needing Plan B would go to a Planned Parenthood  CTyankee   Dec-09-11 03:12 PM   #47 
  - I'm Having A Discussion  haikugal   Dec-09-11 01:37 PM   #9 
  - I think adult females can read and understand how it is to be used  LynneSin   Dec-09-11 01:59 PM   #14 
  - Good Points  haikugal   Dec-09-11 10:40 PM   #96 
  - That is a bullshit argument and  tavalon   Dec-10-11 07:45 AM   #112 
     - That's what I've been saying...it's an emergency method.  haikugal   Dec-10-11 08:56 PM   #141 
  - Everyone making an issue of this should look themselves in the  treestar   Dec-09-11 02:16 PM   #22 
  - You have given the best answer I have seen in any of these threads - thank you  LynneSin   Dec-09-11 02:38 PM   #28 
  - Well said both of you.  GoCubsGo   Dec-09-11 03:39 PM   #58 
  - There have been many threads on this issue in the past  suffragette   Dec-09-11 02:52 PM   #37 
  - Those seem to be about its becoming available OTC  treestar   Dec-09-11 03:10 PM   #45 
     - Both of those were factors in 2005 as well, as seen in this interview  suffragette   Dec-09-11 04:36 PM   #75 
  - Yes, I was because of the religious right's push  HockeyMom   Dec-09-11 03:23 PM   #53 
  - Yep, that can't be pointed out enough!  tavalon   Dec-10-11 07:48 AM   #115 
  - EXACTLY  Aerows   Dec-10-11 08:23 AM   #120 
  - I've been working with it for over 35 yrs. Yes, I was concerned before and am moreso now.  uppityperson   Dec-09-11 04:42 PM   #78 
  - What a load of horseshit.  Ignis   Dec-09-11 05:34 PM   #87 
  - I keep a stash of birth control pills in the cabinet  tavalon   Dec-10-11 07:47 AM   #114 
  - My friend was raped at 11 back in the mid 60s  HockeyMom   Dec-09-11 02:40 PM   #29 
  - Thank you for your post too  LynneSin   Dec-09-11 02:46 PM   #31 
  - And if the parent decides that their child, at 10, has to carry a fetus to term...  Humanist_Activist   Dec-09-11 02:50 PM   #34 
     - Why are we taking this to the extreme  LynneSin   Dec-09-11 03:03 PM   #40 
     - Yes, when it endanger's the child's health and welfare...  Humanist_Activist   Dec-09-11 03:06 PM   #42 
     - Look, with any argument we can always find the extreme case  LynneSin   Dec-09-11 03:13 PM   #48 
        - Let me put it this way, its not about you or your rights, but about your children's rights...  Humanist_Activist   Dec-09-11 03:18 PM   #49 
        - And a parent is responsible for those rights of those children. Isn't that what parenthood is about  LynneSin   Dec-09-11 04:17 PM   #63 
           - So now its a right to know if their kids are sexually active? What business do parents have...  Humanist_Activist   Dec-09-11 04:30 PM   #71 
           - We parents do not have that right to know if our child is sexually active. No, that is NOT a right  uppityperson   Dec-09-11 04:44 PM   #80 
        - I agree the age right now is too high  HockeyMom   Dec-09-11 03:20 PM   #50 
        - We're not telling them how to raise their kids. We're saying something should be sold OTC.  Warren DeMontague   Dec-09-11 03:40 PM   #59 
           - So it's ok we tell them what to do but they need to STFU when it comes to us  LynneSin   Dec-09-11 04:20 PM   #64 
              - I'm not telling anyone what to do  Warren DeMontague   Dec-09-11 04:29 PM   #70 
              - You do realize it won't be out on the shelves, right?  Humanist_Activist   Dec-09-11 04:32 PM   #73 
              - Let's get some clarity on how either situation would work in reality  Warren DeMontague   Dec-09-11 04:49 PM   #81 
              - "OTC" means no prescription necessary, not that it is going to be sitting on a shelf to be shoplifte  uppityperson   Dec-09-11 04:53 PM   #83 
                 - OTC also means sitting on a shelf.  redqueen   Dec-09-11 05:51 PM   #89 
                    - Wrong. OTC = "over the counter", no prescription required. It may be out on a shelf  uppityperson   Dec-09-11 05:58 PM   #91 
                    - I only said it also referred to stuff on the shelf  redqueen   Dec-09-11 06:54 PM   #92 
                       - Not going to argue.  uppityperson   Dec-09-11 07:23 PM   #93 
                    - But this was always, always, just as it is now, going to be with the pharmacist,  tavalon   Dec-10-11 07:53 AM   #117 
                       - I would think so...  redqueen   Dec-10-11 08:22 AM   #119 
     - 5 subthreads up, you're rolling out the dreadful "what if"s like they're going out of style  Warren DeMontague   Dec-09-11 03:37 PM   #57 
        - Yes but god forbid a 10 year old kid raped who is raised by fundies gets pregnant  LynneSin   Dec-09-11 04:23 PM   #65 
           - I think having this thing available in the front of the pharmacy instead of behind the counter  Warren DeMontague   Dec-09-11 04:27 PM   #68 
     - Read my next post  HockeyMom   Dec-09-11 03:05 PM   #41 
        - First off, you are assuming rape, which isn't always the case....  Humanist_Activist   Dec-09-11 03:10 PM   #44 
  - How would a 10 or 11 year old GET to a drug store?  HockeyMom   Dec-09-11 02:48 PM   #32 
  - They could ride bikes or even walk to some drug stores...  Humanist_Activist   Dec-09-11 02:53 PM   #38 
  - Or, if you had an alcoholic single parent as I did  EFerrari   Dec-09-11 03:36 PM   #55 
  - Mo-o-o-o-m, take me and Susie to the MALL so she can go shopping with me so she can buy  kenny blankenship   Dec-09-11 04:51 PM   #82 
  - Walk, bike, public transportation  TheKentuckian   Dec-09-11 05:53 PM   #90 
  - walk or ride a bike  fishwax   Dec-09-11 11:05 PM   #98 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-09-11 03:34 PM   #54 
  - A lot of underaged girls may take these pills without even knowing that they CAN'T be pregnant.  mistertrickster   Dec-09-11 04:42 PM   #79 
  - You do realize they have to consult with a pharamcist on the proper use of the medication?  Humanist_Activist   Dec-09-11 05:07 PM   #85 
     - If it's OTC, then no they wouldn't, anymore than they would for aspirin. nt  mistertrickster   Dec-10-11 12:38 PM   #122 
        - OTC means no prescription needed, not that it is on the shelf. Yes, they  uppityperson   Dec-10-11 01:01 PM   #124 
           - Link? nt  mistertrickster   Dec-10-11 01:57 PM   #129 
              - Here you go (edited, please check the edit)  uppityperson   Dec-10-11 02:28 PM   #132 
              - Link? Walk into ANY pharmacy and ask for Plan B.  PeaceNikki   Dec-10-11 02:29 PM   #133 
  - I doubt that very young girls could afford to buy it on their own.  Moosepoop   Dec-09-11 05:30 PM   #86 
  - Are these pills available without talking to a pharmacist in any other country?  redqueen   Dec-09-11 05:45 PM   #88 
  - In most western nations, its available without a prescription...  Humanist_Activist   Dec-09-11 08:29 PM   #95 
     - in the uk it appears to require a prescription  redqueen   Dec-09-11 10:50 PM   #97 
        - Canada(excluding Quebec), France, Cyprus, the list can be extensive, look here:  Humanist_Activist   Dec-10-11 01:39 AM   #100 
           - A better source is needed IMO.  redqueen   Dec-10-11 07:38 AM   #108 
              - I said most, not all, and you seem to be moving the goalposts and obviously aren't interested in....  Humanist_Activist   Dec-10-11 12:55 PM   #123 
  - K & R  Quantess   Dec-09-11 07:59 PM   #94 
  - ANY excuse to ban pregnancy PREVENTION! & birth control now. I've said it  StarsInHerHair   Dec-09-11 11:22 PM   #99 
  - Absolutely right  Aerows   Dec-10-11 07:45 AM   #113 
  - Um, It's already sold over the counter. I bought it this year.  lildreamer316   Dec-10-11 02:26 PM   #131 
     - An Rx is required for those under 17.  PeaceNikki   Dec-10-11 02:30 PM   #134 
     - I read on a site about emergency contraception  redqueen   Dec-10-11 06:52 PM   #140 
 

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