Le Taz Hot
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Thu Dec-08-11 12:47 PM
Response to Reply #48 |
| 61. Philosophy aside, I narrowed my "rights" debate |
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to what is laid out in the Constitution.
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| -The Obama administration doesn't trust teenage girls with the Plan B pill but, |
Are_grits_groceries |
Dec-08-11 03:32 AM |
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Sigh. n/t |
pnwmom |
Dec-08-11 03:50 AM |
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Not to sound too conservative, but I do think young women should be more responsible... |
Corruption Winz |
Dec-08-11 07:05 AM |
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But not young men? |
Le Taz Hot |
Dec-08-11 07:10 AM |
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I said women because the original post was about young women.. |
Corruption Winz |
Dec-08-11 07:37 AM |
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Reproductive Choice is a right. |
Le Taz Hot |
Dec-08-11 07:56 AM |
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It's not apples and oranges.... |
Corruption Winz |
Dec-08-11 09:51 AM |
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Actually, it is apples and oranges and here's why: |
Le Taz Hot |
Dec-08-11 10:05 AM |
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I have always seen that difference.. |
Corruption Winz |
Dec-08-11 11:47 AM |
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There are a lot of young women |
Aerows |
Dec-08-11 10:17 AM |
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^ Good points, Aerows ^ |
Mimosa |
Dec-08-11 10:32 AM |
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First of all, I'm hardly a conservative... |
Corruption Winz |
Dec-08-11 11:57 AM |
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Unfortunately biology makes that hard for them to do. |
Mojorabbit |
Dec-09-11 12:06 AM |
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IKWYM :) |
Aerows |
Dec-08-11 01:31 PM |
#64 |
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*Claps* |
Harmony Blue |
Dec-08-11 10:35 AM |
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And as far as "being more responsible" goes, taking Plan B *IS* being responsible. |
kenny blankenship |
Dec-08-11 10:43 AM |
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Once again.... |
Corruption Winz |
Dec-08-11 11:54 AM |
#56 |
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I offered some facts |
Aerows |
Dec-08-11 12:54 PM |
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I don't find it objectionable.. |
Corruption Winz |
Dec-08-11 01:51 PM |
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I believe that I pointed out |
Aerows |
Dec-08-11 03:16 PM |
#85 |
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STFU and |
femrap |
Dec-08-11 01:53 PM |
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DId you even read my original post? |
Corruption Winz |
Dec-08-11 01:57 PM |
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Insert angry post here |
Aerows |
Dec-08-11 11:50 PM |
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you DO realize Plan B is a pregnancy PREVENTION??? Yes? How is foregoing |
StarsInHerHair |
Dec-08-11 10:54 PM |
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Very good points.... |
femrap |
Dec-08-11 01:49 PM |
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So, because I don't agree with you, I'm not capable of enlightenment... |
Corruption Winz |
Dec-08-11 01:59 PM |
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Your words concerning |
femrap |
Dec-08-11 02:23 PM |
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I'm less likely to debate bras with males |
Aerows |
Dec-08-11 03:47 PM |
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Rights and privileges are abstract concepts, and don't really exist outside of our minds. nt |
ZombieHorde |
Dec-08-11 11:23 AM |
#48 |
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Philosophy aside, I narrowed my "rights" debate |
Le Taz Hot |
Dec-08-11 12:47 PM |
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You are not welcome here. nt |
femrap |
Dec-08-11 01:44 PM |
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What about young men? |
Are_grits_groceries |
Dec-08-11 07:10 AM |
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Just to claifry, I said women because the OP pointed out females... |
Corruption Winz |
Dec-08-11 07:39 AM |
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"It's not fair, but it's true." |
femrap |
Dec-08-11 01:57 PM |
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Talk of "responsibility" in this context misses the point |
markpkessinger |
Dec-08-11 07:40 AM |
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I'd agree with that... |
Corruption Winz |
Dec-08-11 07:49 AM |
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I have no real argument with that . . . |
markpkessinger |
Dec-08-11 04:21 PM |
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Condoms break. |
jeff47 |
Dec-08-11 10:55 AM |
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Or she said she was due to get her period, and her boyfriend put it in without a condom |
kenny blankenship |
Dec-08-11 11:22 AM |
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Uh, what about dude |
femrap |
Dec-08-11 01:42 PM |
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16 year old girls are still their parent's responsibility |
Motown_Johnny |
Dec-08-11 07:08 AM |
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And if that 16-year-old girl |
Le Taz Hot |
Dec-08-11 07:14 AM |
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But any child over 14 must give permission |
revolution breeze |
Dec-08-11 07:16 AM |
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Wow, not thinking too deep about this are you??? |
Logical |
Dec-08-11 07:17 AM |
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Don't start. |
Are_grits_groceries |
Dec-08-11 07:23 AM |
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Can a girl under 17 get a birth control pill prescription without parent or guardian involvement? |
TwilightGardener |
Dec-08-11 09:59 AM |
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A child of 14 has to agree to the parent being at the examination.. |
Fumesucker |
Dec-08-11 10:01 AM |
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What does that have to do with anything? We're talking medication. |
TwilightGardener |
Dec-08-11 10:06 AM |
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The exam is when prescriptions are written.. |
Fumesucker |
Dec-08-11 10:07 AM |
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No, the doctor would speak to the parent about the prescription first. |
TwilightGardener |
Dec-08-11 10:10 AM |
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I have a daughter and two granddaughters.. |
Fumesucker |
Dec-08-11 10:14 AM |
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Reproductive health still falls under the responsibility of a parent. |
TwilightGardener |
Dec-08-11 10:23 AM |
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So the girls who have fucked up parents should suffer extra? |
Fumesucker |
Dec-08-11 10:28 AM |
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Very true, Fumesucker. Always has been. n/t |
Mimosa |
Dec-08-11 10:33 AM |
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Health is health. Medication is medication. If a parent has responsibility |
TwilightGardener |
Dec-08-11 10:33 AM |
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Bad parents are hypotheticals now? |
Fumesucker |
Dec-08-11 10:42 AM |
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Again, if a parent has a responsibility for their child's health until he/she reaches |
TwilightGardener |
Dec-08-11 10:49 AM |
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Again, all parents are not themselves responsible adults.. |
Fumesucker |
Dec-08-11 12:18 PM |
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It's the ones who think they "own" their teenage daughters and sons |
kenny blankenship |
Dec-08-11 12:34 PM |
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Think of the teenage young women |
femrap |
Dec-08-11 02:05 PM |
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I'm not sure what you're reaching for here--but there is no question that |
TwilightGardener |
Dec-08-11 12:35 PM |
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The decision was to not allow the morning after pill to be |
sufrommich |
Dec-08-11 10:24 AM |
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I think it should be sold over the counter, but not to minors (16 or 17). |
TwilightGardener |
Dec-08-11 10:27 AM |
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Are you aware that there is no age limits for boys buying |
sufrommich |
Dec-08-11 10:30 AM |
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Or girls, for that matter. But that's a physical barrier. It's not an internally-taken med meant |
TwilightGardener |
Dec-08-11 10:35 AM |
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"Change hormone activity"? |
Aerows |
Dec-08-11 10:59 AM |
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Yes. And a parent should know about that, too. Parents have responsibility |
TwilightGardener |
Dec-08-11 11:03 AM |
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I disagree for several reasons |
Aerows |
Dec-08-11 11:09 AM |
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Parenting or guardianship isn't a "relationship" matter--it's a legal matter. |
TwilightGardener |
Dec-08-11 11:16 AM |
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Why souldn't minors be allowed to buy Plan-B? |
ZombieHorde |
Dec-08-11 11:27 AM |
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Actually, in terms of my own children, I don't want them taking anything |
TwilightGardener |
Dec-08-11 11:34 AM |
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I have kids, and I want to know every single medicine they take, so I understand where you are |
ZombieHorde |
Dec-08-11 11:45 AM |
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Thanks--I think he just needs glasses (he squints constantly), and it doesn't help |
TwilightGardener |
Dec-08-11 11:50 AM |
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Then simply tell them not to |
LanternWaste |
Dec-08-11 01:45 PM |
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See, it's the opposite--there are people here who believe that parents |
TwilightGardener |
Dec-08-11 01:55 PM |
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In a perfect world, every teenage girl who had unprotected |
sufrommich |
Dec-08-11 02:10 PM |
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Well, in a perfect world, kids under 16 wouldn't be having sex. |
TwilightGardener |
Dec-08-11 02:21 PM |
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If you are making the argument |
Aerows |
Dec-08-11 01:09 PM |
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Your position is ridiculous. State Age of Consent laws ALLOW "16 or 17" yros to have sex |
kenny blankenship |
Dec-08-11 10:53 AM |
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OK, guy. We'll agree to disagree. |
TwilightGardener |
Dec-08-11 10:54 AM |
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Actually age of consent is 16 in more states than 17 |
kenny blankenship |
Dec-08-11 10:13 AM |
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Here's a solution... |
femrap |
Dec-08-11 02:02 PM |
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they can't be trusted to have sex safely what makes them mature enough |
ileus |
Dec-08-11 10:20 AM |
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And what if they were raped or molested? |
Aerows |
Dec-08-11 10:45 AM |
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It's more important to punish women |
JoeyT |
Dec-08-11 11:33 AM |
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What a lovely post.... |
femrap |
Dec-08-11 02:09 PM |
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+++ Great post, thanks for getting it, JoeyT |
Ignis |
Dec-08-11 05:04 PM |
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Probably not. |
Aerows |
Dec-08-11 05:53 PM |
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I didn't say never have access. |
ileus |
Dec-08-11 03:14 PM |
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Thank you for being adult enough to admit it |
Aerows |
Dec-08-11 05:58 PM |
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It's not an easy way out! |
Are_grits_groceries |
Dec-08-11 11:31 AM |
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As Gloria |
femrap |
Dec-08-11 01:39 PM |
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Unrec for stereotyping. |
Xicano |
Dec-08-11 01:56 PM |
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I'm a guy, and I thought the Plan-B Bud Light bit was funny. nt |
ZombieHorde |
Dec-08-11 03:46 PM |
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Yes we can! Obama pissing off his base again. |
golddigger |
Dec-08-11 01:58 PM |
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I think the Plan B pill should be sold in the front of the store |
donheld |
Dec-08-11 10:15 PM |
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