| 100. Maybe you're too liberal for the paid operatives but not for the real people liberals. |
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Never let them dilute your liberal values.
Great post!
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| -A 9 yr DU journey...going from too moderate to too liberal to fit in. |
madfloridian |
Dec-07-11 08:16 PM |
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it's called growing. |
barbtries |
Dec-07-11 08:19 PM |
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+1 |
rtassi |
Dec-08-11 04:04 PM |
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Growing ... being fickle... |
iamthebandfanman |
Dec-13-11 06:12 PM |
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I enjoy and appreciate your posts very much. |
yardwork |
Dec-07-11 08:22 PM |
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Love ya, mad... |
tnlefty |
Dec-07-11 08:22 PM |
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Very good analysis of actuality, or truth. I don't know where to go either. |
northoftheborder |
Dec-07-11 08:23 PM |
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+1 for integrity nt |
tblue |
Dec-08-11 01:04 PM |
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It would be a huge mistake .... |
defendandprotect |
Dec-08-11 03:45 PM |
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I tend to agree. The fartherest left (socialists) |
socialist_n_TN |
Dec-10-11 08:00 PM |
#193 |
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it has gone beyond humoring them into pandering to them |
SwampG8r |
Dec-31-11 12:12 AM |
#212 |
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K&R |
EFerrari |
Dec-07-11 08:27 PM |
#5 |
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I for one appreciate your point of view, madfloridian.. |
Fumesucker |
Dec-07-11 08:31 PM |
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I've always been pretty far out on the freak-side |
malthaussen |
Dec-07-11 08:32 PM |
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I started out too liberal but I've learned to be more, um... |
mike_c |
Dec-07-11 08:33 PM |
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good post |
quinnox |
Dec-07-11 08:38 PM |
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Your posts were some of the first I read when I landed |
Cleita |
Dec-07-11 08:42 PM |
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I am surprised I am here considering how many posts I've had |
Rex |
Dec-07-11 08:44 PM |
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I think that politics, as a whole, have shifted further right in the last 10 + years |
The Genealogist |
Dec-07-11 08:46 PM |
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My biggest nightmare |
malthaussen |
Dec-07-11 09:21 PM |
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Do yourself a favor and look up the actual numbers for FoxNews |
Bluenorthwest |
Dec-08-11 07:11 AM |
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Prosperity makes conservatives. |
aquart |
Dec-08-11 01:49 AM |
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But so does fear |
quakerboy |
Dec-08-11 04:36 AM |
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So, if the nation is so far to the right-- |
eridani |
Dec-08-11 04:34 AM |
#62 |
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Pick an issue |
quakerboy |
Dec-08-11 04:39 AM |
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The overall trend is to supporting gay rights |
eridani |
Dec-08-11 06:17 AM |
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Have we won the popular vote on that one in any state so far? |
quakerboy |
Dec-09-11 09:13 PM |
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Answers: a) They benefit personally and b) they don't pay personally. |
Pholus |
Dec-08-11 07:07 AM |
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80% progressive opinions among Dems is pretty good |
eridani |
Dec-08-11 03:09 PM |
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Well, I wouldn't interpret it as strongly as you do. |
Pholus |
Dec-08-11 08:36 PM |
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This is also true. Remember that these are people who commonly say |
eridani |
Dec-09-11 06:22 AM |
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I think a lot of Americans are more liberal than they realize, |
CrispyQ |
Dec-08-11 10:11 AM |
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Actually, not -- this is a liberal nation -- and OWS is the proof of that -- !! |
defendandprotect |
Dec-08-11 03:55 PM |
#149 |
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Glad I missed Cowan on C-Span. Yes, they do control the party now. |
madfloridian |
Dec-22-11 06:52 PM |
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The political parties have shifted to the right, but NOT the public |
sabrina 1 |
Dec-08-11 04:32 PM |
#157 |
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Public opinion on those issues does a complete 180 after Frank Luntz gets done with re-wording |
Hippo_Tron |
Dec-09-11 12:13 AM |
#180 |
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Well said. |
madfloridian |
Dec-10-11 10:44 AM |
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I always just thought of myself as a democrat |
newspeak |
Dec-10-11 11:14 AM |
#191 |
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with the help of a corporate media |
newspeak |
Dec-12-11 08:29 AM |
#196 |
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The party made a huge lurch to the right when Obama was sworn in. |
Marr |
Dec-12-11 11:56 AM |
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Brava! |
Stinky The Clown |
Dec-07-11 09:13 PM |
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Kick and recommend and sympathize. |
progressoid |
Dec-07-11 09:18 PM |
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I have been going to socialist meetups. |
immoderate |
Dec-07-11 09:31 PM |
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K&R |
Solly Mack |
Dec-07-11 09:34 PM |
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rec., dammit! |
KG |
Dec-07-11 09:37 PM |
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Well, whatever you are, you are an esteemed, valued, Democratic wonder n/t |
UTUSN |
Dec-07-11 09:40 PM |
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There is something indeed wrong with this picture, but it is inherent in our system. |
BzaDem |
Dec-07-11 09:46 PM |
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The de facto |
sulphurdunn |
Dec-08-11 05:39 AM |
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You are correct. The Washington crowd likes to pretend that |
Bluenorthwest |
Dec-08-11 07:04 AM |
#80 |
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It might have had to do with this a year ago. Not now. |
BzaDem |
Dec-08-11 04:04 PM |
#152 |
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I have to say that you are one of the DU'ers who has literally laid the groundwork |
Horse with no Name |
Dec-07-11 10:02 PM |
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Nice words. I guess I have reached a point in life where only truth matters. |
madfloridian |
Dec-13-11 12:16 PM |
#203 |
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Well done! |
Warpy |
Dec-07-11 10:03 PM |
#22 |
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Kick & Rec! |
jannyk |
Dec-07-11 10:12 PM |
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Thank you for this post |
MedleyMisty |
Dec-07-11 10:12 PM |
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What are you - some kind of danged pinko?! |
man4allcats |
Dec-07-11 10:25 PM |
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I love your post. |
femrap |
Dec-07-11 10:30 PM |
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I'm with you on the "none of the above" thing. |
kath |
Dec-08-11 12:30 AM |
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I am with you both on 'none of the above'. nt |
SammyWinstonJack |
Dec-08-11 09:05 AM |
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K&R! Thanks for teaching us so much here at D.U. |
midnight |
Dec-07-11 10:45 PM |
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Please stay |
Ken Burch |
Dec-07-11 10:47 PM |
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Couldn't be truer -- but do you see the depth of intimidation |
defendandprotect |
Dec-08-11 04:08 PM |
#154 |
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We must have taken the same train, |
mmonk |
Dec-07-11 10:52 PM |
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your posts are great |
RainDog |
Dec-07-11 10:55 PM |
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I love reading your posts and journals |
Irishonly |
Dec-07-11 11:16 PM |
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K&R. nt |
OnyxCollie |
Dec-07-11 11:25 PM |
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k&r |
Starry Messenger |
Dec-07-11 11:40 PM |
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Recommend |
xchrom |
Dec-07-11 11:42 PM |
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You are one of my favorite DUers, MadFloridian |
clyrc |
Dec-07-11 11:54 PM |
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Very true. And I think the party has bounded centerward sometime during the Clinton Presidency. |
Fearless |
Dec-08-11 12:00 AM |
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I've been following your education posts. Thanks. |
mojowork_n |
Dec-08-11 12:03 AM |
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I completely understand the feeling. |
blackspade |
Dec-08-11 12:03 AM |
#38 |
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some of us are here for the "Democratic" and some for the "underground" |
lumberjack_jeff |
Dec-08-11 12:03 AM |
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Take heart Mad....this place would not be the same without you |
ooglymoogly |
Dec-08-11 12:06 AM |
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America wants a nation run according to very liberal standards -- |
defendandprotect |
Dec-08-11 03:59 PM |
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"Die Revolution frisst ihre Kinder auf" |
DFW |
Dec-08-11 12:07 AM |
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Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad. |
Jakes Progress |
Dec-08-11 12:20 AM |
#42 |
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I've been there with you. |
ellisonz |
Dec-08-11 12:32 AM |
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The older I get the more liberal I get... when I move back to FL, we can be a party of |
JCMach1 |
Dec-08-11 12:57 AM |
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A fantastic post from one of DU's best. Thank you madfloridian. Thank you. |
Luminous Animal |
Dec-08-11 01:06 AM |
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Excellent post |
slay |
Dec-08-11 01:18 AM |
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+1 |
Hell Hath No Fury |
Dec-08-11 10:29 AM |
#105 |
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That's what happens if you don't succumb to "amoral party drift" |
Bonobo |
Dec-08-11 01:34 AM |
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I don't understand what the person at the Kos blog said that bothered you. |
Major Hogwash |
Dec-08-11 01:59 AM |
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K & R. Yes, I am sad at what is now happening, and that's all that I can say. |
freshwest |
Dec-08-11 01:59 AM |
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You were not alone on your journey |
emsimon33 |
Dec-08-11 02:01 AM |
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I'll take one issue. I want a liberal education system. |
boppers |
Dec-08-11 02:06 AM |
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Recommended |
me b zola |
Dec-08-11 02:15 AM |
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Wise, wise words. True not only for DU, but for the entire country |
RufusTFirefly |
Dec-08-11 08:31 AM |
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+1 |
Ignis |
Dec-08-11 12:14 PM |
#122 |
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K&R |
libmom74 |
Dec-08-11 02:46 AM |
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I actually have grown more liberal the longer I stay with DU... |
WCGreen |
Dec-08-11 02:55 AM |
#56 |
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Love your soul. Thanks for sharing it so freely. |
BeHereNow |
Dec-08-11 03:02 AM |
#57 |
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MadFloridian, will you still be on the DU3? I am not sure if I will make the switch. |
Leopolds Ghost |
Dec-08-11 03:31 AM |
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I don't know. |
madfloridian |
Dec-08-11 11:44 PM |
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I've seen the same............ |
HowHeThinks |
Dec-08-11 03:52 AM |
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I went from your standard bleeding heart liberal to a more radical position |
WildNovember |
Dec-08-11 04:08 AM |
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Mad you are a Dem moderate imo |
mntleo2 |
Dec-08-11 04:17 AM |
#61 |
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I'm seeing a rightward drift here as well |
eridani |
Dec-08-11 04:57 AM |
#65 |
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thank you |
irisblue |
Dec-08-11 05:07 AM |
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You`re right, it has been a strange trip. |
democrank |
Dec-08-11 05:33 AM |
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The vast majority of posts on this thread are responses to you. |
randome |
Dec-08-11 05:45 AM |
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+++ |
DemReadingDU |
Dec-08-11 06:00 AM |
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Excellent post, madflo |
MissDeeds |
Dec-08-11 06:08 AM |
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I honestly don't think you are at odds with the majority.. |
Little Star |
Dec-08-11 06:18 AM |
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True -- and it's unbelievable that so many here feel INTIMIDATED by the RW NOISE machine -- !! |
defendandprotect |
Dec-08-11 04:05 PM |
#153 |
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As far as personal journeys I grew up in a union household. |
TBF |
Dec-08-11 06:39 AM |
#74 |
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I'm a radical liberal leftie... |
ananda |
Dec-08-11 06:49 AM |
#75 |
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I'm with you! n/t |
BridgeTheGap |
Dec-08-11 06:53 AM |
#76 |
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Recommended. |
H2O Man |
Dec-08-11 06:58 AM |
#77 |
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K&R. |
City Lights |
Dec-08-11 07:01 AM |
#78 |
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You're not alone Mad! Came here at the same time you did - |
axollot |
Dec-08-11 07:02 AM |
#79 |
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Totally Understand |
pmorlan1 |
Dec-08-11 07:14 AM |
#83 |
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I came back from self-imposed exile to tell you how much I have appreciated your words! |
Pholus |
Dec-08-11 07:16 AM |
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I feel much the same way- minus any republican influences |
Marrah_G |
Dec-08-11 07:16 AM |
#85 |
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Well met, fellow traveler, but the journey is far from over. |
Tansy_Gold |
Dec-08-11 07:29 AM |
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You are simply excellent on educational subjects, so much of |
Bluenorthwest |
Dec-08-11 07:42 AM |
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Thank you for this wonderful and timely post, mad! |
LiberalEsto |
Dec-08-11 07:44 AM |
#88 |
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The choice issue is going to hurt the Democratic party |
proud2BlibKansan |
Dec-08-11 07:49 AM |
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It will...and |
madfloridian |
Dec-08-11 11:12 PM |
#178 |
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i have discovered that not fitting in is good. |
dembotoz |
Dec-08-11 07:54 AM |
#90 |
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That's my journey, too. |
LWolf |
Dec-08-11 07:57 AM |
#91 |
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I still dig what you say, so I'm too liberal, too, I suppose... |
MrMickeysMom |
Dec-08-11 08:03 AM |
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Agree completely, Mad ... and it's disconcerting to see. |
Myrina |
Dec-08-11 08:05 AM |
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+1 |
Little Star |
Dec-08-11 11:09 AM |
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Thanks for your thoughts mad... |
russspeakeasy |
Dec-08-11 08:15 AM |
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Me, too, and I don't know what to do about it to effectively change |
Vinca |
Dec-08-11 08:18 AM |
#95 |
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k&r |
polichick |
Dec-08-11 08:20 AM |
#96 |
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To paraphrase Steve Jobs, "Stay hungry, stay mad!" |
FailureToCommunicate |
Dec-08-11 09:05 AM |
#99 |
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Maybe you're too liberal for the paid operatives but not for the real people liberals. |
valerief |
Dec-08-11 09:18 AM |
#100 |
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The only disagreement is with tenure |
ccavagnolo |
Dec-08-11 09:22 AM |
#101 |
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I enjoy your posts, Mad. nt |
raccoon |
Dec-08-11 10:07 AM |
#102 |
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You're one of the consistently great posters, and your expertise in the field of |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Dec-08-11 10:10 AM |
#103 |
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I'm still stunned how easy it's been to sell privatization to the American public. |
CrispyQ |
Dec-08-11 10:30 AM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Dec-08-11 10:34 AM |
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Thank you! |
jopacaco |
Dec-08-11 10:34 AM |
#108 |
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I think that is what exposure to Truth does -- |
Hell Hath No Fury |
Dec-08-11 11:03 AM |
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As a 2001'er....I understand so well what you say. n/t |
KoKo |
Dec-08-11 03:21 PM |
#144 |
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I must confess I do not pay |
xxqqqzme |
Dec-08-11 11:11 AM |
#111 |
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It's a vocal (probably organized), strident, shrill minority here at DU... |
FredStembottom |
Dec-08-11 11:12 AM |
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Yes, I agree that unfortunately it works. |
madfloridian |
Dec-09-11 03:15 PM |
#186 |
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As long as you still believe we landed on the moon and planes really did hit the WTC |
snooper2 |
Dec-08-11 11:13 AM |
#113 |
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"the president is consulting with the Catholic bishops on birth control rights for women" |
Mimosa |
Dec-08-11 11:14 AM |
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You certainly have never seemed too critical to me |
Generic Other |
Dec-08-11 11:15 AM |
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There's nothing wrong with your set... |
Octafish |
Dec-08-11 11:20 AM |
#116 |
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As an LGBT person, |
Zorra |
Dec-08-11 11:27 AM |
#117 |
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I'm a fellow traveller MF |
swilton |
Dec-08-11 11:53 AM |
#118 |
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I've always considered myself kind of centrist by DU standards. |
KamaAina |
Dec-08-11 11:53 AM |
#119 |
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IMO Obama's victory in 2008 has caused the forum to go downhill. |
Odin2005 |
Dec-08-11 12:04 PM |
#120 |
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Would the last progressive to leave DU please turn the lights off. |
Fly by night |
Dec-08-11 12:08 PM |
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Yes, it is |
Missy Vixen |
Dec-08-11 12:54 PM |
#128 |
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Revolutionaries |
Anatos |
Dec-08-11 12:36 PM |
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Sorry, but the "correction" is not only -- |
Hell Hath No Fury |
Dec-08-11 01:25 PM |
#131 |
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"Fewer" works like that |
Anatos |
Dec-08-11 02:57 PM |
#140 |
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If 2008-2010 taught us anything |
plantwomyn |
Dec-08-11 04:17 PM |
#155 |
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Quite the opposite |
Anatos |
Dec-09-11 10:32 AM |
#183 |
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Outstanding post! ... Thank you, MF. |
Bozita |
Dec-08-11 12:40 PM |
#124 |
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The well-written responses show that some had good teachers. |
AnotherMcIntosh |
Dec-08-11 12:47 PM |
#125 |
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Welcome to DU! |
demmiblue |
Dec-08-11 01:28 PM |
#133 |
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Thanks, friend. |
AnotherMcIntosh |
Dec-08-11 02:12 PM |
#138 |
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Welcome to DU!!! |
Renew Deal |
Dec-08-11 10:57 PM |
#175 |
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Very kind words. |
madfloridian |
Dec-08-11 11:06 PM |
#176 |
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Although I've been a LIBERAL for over 40 years and only been at DU for 3+ years your words resonate. |
bertman |
Dec-08-11 12:49 PM |
#126 |
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I've been here since Inauguration Weekend 11 years ago |
Missy Vixen |
Dec-08-11 12:51 PM |
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This could be me saying these words, I totally agree with you. |
WHEN CRABS ROAR |
Dec-08-11 01:22 PM |
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K&R n/t |
myrna minx |
Dec-08-11 01:25 PM |
#132 |
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madfloridian |
Diclotican |
Dec-08-11 01:28 PM |
#134 |
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Well said and I agree! |
LongTomH |
Dec-08-11 01:46 PM |
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The more informed you are AND honest with yourself about what the |
Jefferson23 |
Dec-08-11 01:58 PM |
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And don't you change one darn bit madfloridian! |
Jazzgirl |
Dec-08-11 02:04 PM |
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A Great post for the Greatest Threads! |
FloriTexan |
Dec-08-11 02:56 PM |
#139 |
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I joined in 2003. You're one of the reasons I stay here |
concord |
Dec-08-11 03:15 PM |
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I am with you all the way Mad. But what the hell we goina do about it. Why or how has the Democratic |
rhett o rick |
Dec-08-11 03:21 PM |
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Thanks for this post MadFloridian. It's very timely and appreciated... |
KoKo |
Dec-08-11 03:34 PM |
#145 |
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Me, too! |
chervilant |
Dec-08-11 08:07 PM |
#172 |
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This is a liberal nation ... how could you NOT fit in? Look at OWS -- !! |
defendandprotect |
Dec-08-11 03:35 PM |
#146 |
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You speak for me, madfloridian, and apparently for a lot of other |
JDPriestly |
Dec-08-11 03:35 PM |
#147 |
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Good story. I've never been a church goer that much. Growing up I disliked religion. |
craigmatic |
Dec-08-11 03:59 PM |
#150 |
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Well, you're one of a select few on my 'Buddy' list... |
truebrit71 |
Dec-08-11 04:19 PM |
#156 |
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K&R !!! n/t |
RKP5637 |
Dec-08-11 05:28 PM |
#158 |
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Great post! |
Taverner |
Dec-08-11 05:29 PM |
#159 |
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K&R n/t |
louslobbs |
Dec-08-11 05:33 PM |
#160 |
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K&R... |
awoke_in_2003 |
Dec-08-11 05:44 PM |
#161 |
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yup 10+yr journey for me...i'm progressive+ DU is |
katty |
Dec-08-11 05:50 PM |
#162 |
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K&R |
demmiblue |
Dec-08-11 05:52 PM |
#163 |
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Love your informed opinion |
hapkidogal |
Dec-08-11 06:00 PM |
#164 |
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I think the number of Republicans posting increased when Obama won. |
McCamy Taylor |
Dec-08-11 06:00 PM |
#165 |
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This resonates with me. Good post. Hope you stick around. |
harun |
Dec-08-11 06:31 PM |
#166 |
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You speak of party stances and I say |
Angry Dragon |
Dec-08-11 06:37 PM |
#167 |
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Perhaps because we've gone from "right side/wrong side" thinking... |
TheMadMonk |
Dec-08-11 06:38 PM |
#168 |
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Great OP. Keep those posts coming. n/t |
Paka |
Dec-08-11 06:42 PM |
#169 |
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Good for you. Reagan was my first vote for President for |
davidwparker |
Dec-08-11 06:44 PM |
#170 |
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Don't worry. When a Republican is re-elected, all of a sudden Democrats will be liberal again. nt |
krabigirl |
Dec-08-11 07:14 PM |
#171 |
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You noticed that, too? |
madfloridian |
Dec-09-11 07:06 PM |
#187 |
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For me as well |
davidthegnome |
Dec-08-11 08:24 PM |
#173 |
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.... |
madfloridian |
Dec-09-11 09:11 PM |
#188 |
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So, the 312 people here reccing this feel too liberal here? |
joshcryer |
Dec-08-11 11:08 PM |
#177 |
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I believe that the reason for this is basically the corporatism in the party. |
Zorra |
Dec-09-11 11:08 AM |
#185 |
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I went thru a similar process myself. |
AverageJoe90 |
Dec-09-11 12:54 AM |
#181 |
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During the build-up to the Iraq Invasion of 2003.... |
madfloridian |
Dec-10-11 05:43 PM |
#192 |
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I remember those early days, and your "spiritual growth"! |
PassingFair |
Dec-09-11 10:44 AM |
#184 |
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Been a lot of years, hasn't it? |
madfloridian |
Dec-12-11 12:47 AM |
#194 |
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It's weird, huh? |
ladyVet |
Dec-12-11 07:55 AM |
#195 |
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Mostly because our democratic party moved .... |
Bryn |
Dec-12-11 11:36 AM |
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That first frame of the cartoon could so easily apply. |
madfloridian |
Dec-12-11 11:42 AM |
#198 |
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Wow your last sentence, so true: if you favor free education, you are a creep, I learned last week. |
closeupready |
Dec-12-11 11:53 AM |
#199 |
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What a Long, Strange Trip its Been! |
bvar22 |
Dec-12-11 12:40 PM |
#201 |
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Well said.."My Core Beliefs & Values haven't changed over the last 10 years." |
madfloridian |
Dec-12-11 12:45 PM |
#202 |
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kickety |
countryjake |
Dec-13-11 05:48 PM |
#204 |
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K&R |
KoKo |
Dec-22-11 06:56 PM |
#207 |
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Seems OWS is not the only group that got forced out of their tent by the 1%. |
Zorra |
Dec-22-11 10:40 PM |
#208 |
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Nice thoughtful post. |
madfloridian |
Dec-22-11 11:11 PM |
#209 |
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A kick for "MF's Post" as we go into the final Countdown to "Lights Out, Here." |
KoKo |
Dec-30-11 07:13 PM |
#210 |
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Kick |
Bryn |
Dec-30-11 10:41 PM |
#211 |