MADem
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Wed Dec-07-11 08:16 PM
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| 22. WTF? Do you even know what the ruling says? Apparently not. |
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Any "woman" can go buy the stuff over the counter and "make decisions about their own bodies."
A CHILD cannot.
This decision has a result of not allowing CHILDREN under the age of EIGHTEEN to buy the Plan B over the counter. That's all.
A woman of legal voting age (if not drinking age) is free to go purchase the product.
A child under that age, finding herself raped, can get the Plan B from a doctor.
Parents need to talk to their kids about birth control.
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| -Christ... And Once Again... Not Hippie-Punching, So Much As, Woman Beating... |
WillyT |
Dec-07-11 07:23 PM |
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WTF? 2012--that's WTF. |
MADem |
Dec-07-11 07:26 PM |
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If you have a granddaughter who could get raped and get pregnant as a result, |
CTyankee |
Dec-07-11 07:30 PM |
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If your grandchild is raped, a physician can PRESCRIBE the Plan B for her. |
MADem |
Dec-07-11 07:44 PM |
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All rapes aren't reported, by a long shot.. |
Fumesucker |
Dec-07-11 08:20 PM |
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Which is why parents need to have the long talk with their kids. |
MADem |
Dec-07-11 08:31 PM |
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The very last person most kids want to talk to about sex is their parents.. |
Fumesucker |
Dec-07-11 08:39 PM |
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That's true, which is why you have to trap them and just keep discussing it until they get over it. |
MADem |
Dec-07-11 08:46 PM |
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But as I pointed out.. |
Fumesucker |
Dec-08-11 09:24 AM |
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Saying something is "safe" for consumption doesn't mean that |
MADem |
Dec-08-11 01:27 PM |
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okay, and what about the 12 y./o who is raped by her father or another family member, in a household |
niyad |
Dec-07-11 11:45 PM |
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A 12 year old kid who winds up pregnant is eventually going to come to the attention of |
MADem |
Dec-08-11 01:31 AM |
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yes, that 12 y/o will eventually come to someone's attention--far too late to do anything. |
niyad |
Dec-08-11 02:09 AM |
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So....you think it's better that someone gets away with raping her? I don't understand you. |
MADem |
Dec-08-11 03:54 AM |
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it is absolutely amazing how you manage to twist things to suit your own view. WHERE did I say it |
niyad |
Dec-08-11 06:52 PM |
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You're the one who thinks it is somehow better that a child not come to the attention of anyone at |
MADem |
Dec-08-11 11:19 PM |
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apparently you have some serious comprehension problems, if you can come up with that statement from |
niyad |
Dec-08-11 11:31 PM |
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You have a nice day. Don't overuse those "twisting things around" themes. |
MADem |
Dec-09-11 12:07 AM |
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And Right Now... I'm Not Sure I Give A Shit... |
WillyT |
Dec-07-11 07:32 PM |
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They CAN fathom a lucid argument--but there's no arguing with morons. |
MADem |
Dec-07-11 07:46 PM |
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No... I Won't... |
WillyT |
Dec-07-11 07:53 PM |
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The rightwing won't have any reservations about throwing money by the fistfuls at |
MADem |
Dec-07-11 08:10 PM |
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No... I Disagree...We Need This "Discussion" Right Now !!! |
WillyT |
Dec-07-11 08:24 PM |
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Well, if we're talking about 12 year old little blonde "children of the corn" getting raped |
MADem |
Dec-07-11 08:34 PM |
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I'm confused. If you believe that the entire upcoming election is about the fundamental existential |
BzaDem |
Dec-07-11 09:18 PM |
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Oh Please... Do NOT Be Confused... As Of This Precise Moment... |
WillyT |
Dec-07-11 09:36 PM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Dec-07-11 07:33 PM |
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+ 1,000,000,000... What You Said !!! - THANK YOU !!! |
WillyT |
Dec-07-11 07:36 PM |
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Than die on their feet. Agreed. Plus one doesn't always die on their feet. |
JanMichael |
Dec-07-11 07:54 PM |
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Exactly! It doesn't make any kind of political sense. |
Raksha |
Dec-07-11 08:10 PM |
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Why was the message I just replied to deleted? |
Raksha |
Dec-07-11 08:16 PM |
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From the bit you quoted, I'm guessing b/c of the sexual reference. (nt) |
jeff47 |
Dec-08-11 02:44 PM |
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If we don't pass Republican policies, then the Republicans win. |
ZombieHorde |
Dec-07-11 10:04 PM |
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Nothing has been "passed," here. Nothing has changed, is all. |
MADem |
Dec-07-11 10:27 PM |
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The Obama administration is furthering the Republican agenda against women. nt |
ZombieHorde |
Dec-08-11 10:51 AM |
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No they aren't. They're preventing a GOP "Agenda Against Women" as you put it, disguised in a |
MADem |
Dec-08-11 01:04 PM |
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Why not put the ruling off until after the 2012 election... |
truebrit71 |
Dec-08-11 03:46 PM |
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That IS what is happening. Sebelius is asking for a study to determine |
MADem |
Dec-08-11 03:50 PM |
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This was a calculated move to tamp down Obama support. |
Enthusiast |
Dec-08-11 12:05 PM |
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That's what I'm thinking, too. |
redqueen |
Dec-08-11 12:16 PM |
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It's a "Rick Warren" preemptive style move. |
Enthusiast |
Dec-08-11 12:24 PM |
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Find out if the FDA report was signed off by a Bush appointee! |
MADem |
Dec-08-11 01:32 PM |
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You're flinging poo, but you aren't hitting. |
jeff47 |
Dec-08-11 02:45 PM |
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Yes, and AVANDIA was available in Europe for years too. |
MADem |
Dec-08-11 03:22 PM |
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How does pandering to people who won't vote for him under any circumstances-- |
eridani |
Dec-08-11 03:17 PM |
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You are in error if you think this is a right vs. left issue. |
MADem |
Dec-08-11 03:31 PM |
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They've already done safety and efficacy studies |
eridani |
Dec-08-11 05:21 PM |
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The universe of pre-teens in the study was found wanting. |
MADem |
Dec-08-11 11:23 PM |
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If their daughters get raped, I'm sure they would DEMAND Plan B n/t |
eridani |
Dec-09-11 06:26 AM |
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And they'd get it. nt |
MADem |
Dec-10-11 01:55 AM |
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Only if the daughter isn't too embarassed to report it n/t |
eridani |
Dec-10-11 06:43 AM |
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In which case, she'd probably be too embarrassed to ask her parents for fifty bucks to |
MADem |
Dec-10-11 12:13 PM |
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Women can't be trusted to make decisions about their own bodies |
NMMNG |
Dec-07-11 07:31 PM |
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WTF? Do you even know what the ruling says? Apparently not. |
MADem |
Dec-07-11 08:16 PM |
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I'm aware of what the ruling says |
NMMNG |
Dec-07-11 09:05 PM |
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They will continue to have those problems for another year. Nothing has changed. |
MADem |
Dec-07-11 09:26 PM |
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Why do you assume it will be changed next year? |
jeff47 |
Dec-08-11 11:56 AM |
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I am "the base" and I am not pissed off. I am delighted to see a |
MADem |
Dec-08-11 02:31 PM |
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That's because you don't own a uterus. |
jeff47 |
Dec-08-11 02:39 PM |
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How do you know? I'm undeclared because of pissy little comments just like that one. |
MADem |
Dec-08-11 03:27 PM |
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So What Do You Do With The Little Girl... Raped Or Molested... |
WillyT |
Dec-07-11 09:16 PM |
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What did you do with her YESTERDAY? |
MADem |
Dec-07-11 09:28 PM |
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Wow...Your Compassion Is... Remarkable... |
WillyT |
Dec-07-11 09:53 PM |
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The singly focused has not time for this "comapssion" of which you speak. |
U4ikLefty |
Dec-07-11 10:13 PM |
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My compassion IS remarkable. And it isn't resentful, pouty or short-sighted. |
MADem |
Dec-07-11 10:20 PM |
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Well look at the other side. |
Autumn |
Dec-08-11 02:51 PM |
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remember the bumper sticker "if you can't trust me with a choice,. why would you trust me with a |
niyad |
Dec-07-11 08:16 PM |
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"You" and anyone over 18 can be trusted with choice, per this ruling. |
MADem |
Dec-07-11 08:36 PM |
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You are still trusting a 16-year-old with a child. |
jeff47 |
Dec-08-11 11:50 AM |
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Why are you acting as if this is news, and has never happened before? |
MADem |
Dec-08-11 01:57 PM |
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Boy are you getting desperate to justify this. |
jeff47 |
Dec-08-11 02:35 PM |
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No one provided any evidence that AVANDIA was dangerous. |
MADem |
Dec-08-11 03:17 PM |
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Yep |
NMMNG |
Dec-07-11 09:36 PM |
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I don't get it |
mitchtv |
Dec-07-11 10:19 PM |
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Well... The PPT Is On The Job... |
WillyT |
Dec-07-11 07:34 PM |
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This country is very strange sometimes. |
Rex |
Dec-07-11 07:34 PM |
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LOL !!! - BRAVO !!! |
WillyT |
Dec-07-11 07:38 PM |
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Doesn't it seem a little strange? |
Rex |
Dec-10-11 12:21 PM |
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A 12 year old boy can buy a condom without needing to inform anyone or get permission. |
kenny blankenship |
Dec-07-11 08:04 PM |
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A 12 year old girl can buy one as well. nt |
MADem |
Dec-07-11 08:17 PM |
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A 12 Year Old Girl Can Also Buy A Condom... Is That What You Just Said ??? |
WillyT |
Dec-07-11 08:27 PM |
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Yes, that IS what I just said. I thought I was pretty clear. Why are you confused? |
MADem |
Dec-07-11 08:38 PM |
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Yeah a 12 yro girl can buy a condom and put it right on her penis. |
kenny blankenship |
Dec-07-11 08:59 PM |
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She can put it on her boyfriend's penis, certainly...which she may, or may not, have |
MADem |
Dec-07-11 09:32 PM |
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what if the condom breaks? |
U4ikLefty |
Dec-07-11 10:14 PM |
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What if it does? Hopefully she's bought more than one, eh? |
MADem |
Dec-07-11 10:25 PM |
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Yes, putting on a new condom after ejaculation works very, very well. Clearly Plan B is unnecessary |
jeff47 |
Dec-08-11 11:51 AM |
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Wow, you're IN THE BEDROOM with our hypothetical Romeo and Juliet? |
MADem |
Dec-08-11 01:14 PM |
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It's not at all unlikely. Improper use makes condoms go from 96% effective to ~60%. |
jeff47 |
Dec-08-11 01:37 PM |
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If you're going to get smarmy about reproductive "tracts"--at least spell it properly. |
MADem |
Dec-08-11 02:11 PM |
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When the argument's going poorly, time to attack the typos!! |
jeff47 |
Dec-08-11 02:24 PM |
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That wasn't a typo--that was an indication that you didn't have a clear understanding of that which |
MADem |
Dec-08-11 02:39 PM |
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Keep working the typo, I'm sure that will make your argument coherent eventually |
jeff47 |
Dec-08-11 02:50 PM |
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You made it. You own it. "Reproductive TRACK." |
MADem |
Dec-08-11 03:40 PM |
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and you are assuming that this 12 y/o has had the proper sex education in school |
niyad |
Dec-07-11 11:50 PM |
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If she doesn't know about condoms, she's not going to know about Plan B. nt |
MADem |
Dec-08-11 01:23 AM |
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Can she put it on a rapist's penis, if she asks really nicely? |
Ignis |
Dec-08-11 12:18 PM |
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Dec-08-11 03:46 PM |
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Nice personal attack. Says a lot. |
Ignis |
Dec-08-11 03:58 PM |
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I said nothing about you, personally. My remark had to do with your comment. |
MADem |
Dec-08-11 11:15 PM |
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So post it again and try your luck. Or take it to ATA. |
Ignis |
Dec-09-11 03:56 PM |
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I don't need to--I've already made my point. nt |
MADem |
Dec-10-11 01:58 AM |
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K&R |
Odin2005 |
Dec-07-11 07:41 PM |
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What makes anyone think they are appease its foes while infuriating its friends? |
RC |
Dec-07-11 07:41 PM |
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Pretty much my ongoing question |
malthaussen |
Dec-07-11 07:53 PM |
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I generally stay out of the argument about reproductive rights... |
Bigmack |
Dec-07-11 07:51 PM |
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+ 1,000,000,000... What You Said !!! - And THAT... IS... The Corruption... |
WillyT |
Dec-07-11 07:55 PM |
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yet another disappointment from him |
niyad |
Dec-07-11 08:22 PM |
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I really don't care to know what the thinking is behind this. |
EFerrari |
Dec-07-11 08:30 PM |
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Me Too !!! |
WillyT |
Dec-07-11 09:17 PM |
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Smoke & mirrors. The issue is wealth and health care. For those that can afford it... |
freshwest |
Dec-07-11 09:34 PM |
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+ 1,000,000,000... What You Said !!! |
WillyT |
Dec-07-11 10:03 PM |
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I fear there is no momentum for such rallies as there was in the past. The issue has to be... |
freshwest |
Dec-07-11 10:39 PM |
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one would have hoped that we would be long past the need for another such demonstration. sadly, |
niyad |
Dec-07-11 11:56 PM |
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I was wondering what they were trying to achieve with this new move. |
BlueIris |
Dec-07-11 10:06 PM |
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Bold Faced Stupidity |
WillyT |
Dec-07-11 10:39 PM |
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I think they're cowering in fear of a "Daisy" style ad with a kid grabbing Plan B & some Twizzlers |
Warren DeMontague |
Dec-08-11 01:46 AM |
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I don't understand why Obama even tries to please the right. |
Lunacee2012 |
Dec-08-11 01:41 AM |
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Sadly, I think the WH has been focus grouping this stuff. |
CTyankee |
Dec-08-11 08:40 AM |
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I think Obama is a smart man. |
randome |
Dec-08-11 08:58 AM |
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That's like remembering you have a coat at home when you're out in a snow storm, though. |
EFerrari |
Dec-08-11 11:05 AM |
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Our lives can't revolve around what's good for Obama and his image, strategy f |
Mimosa |
Dec-08-11 02:46 PM |
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I'm so angry about this |
JustAnotherGen |
Dec-08-11 08:49 AM |
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Infuriating. K&R n/t |
myrna minx |
Dec-08-11 11:58 AM |
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As long as Democrats support a woman's right to choose, they will not get Catholic support. |
Fly by night |
Dec-08-11 12:15 PM |
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The young women |
femrap |
Dec-08-11 01:33 PM |
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Occupy nt |
Zorra |
Dec-08-11 01:37 PM |
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Is the plan B drug absolutely safe? |
Mimosa |
Dec-08-11 02:43 PM |
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plan b is NOT an abortion--it keeps the egg from implanting. |
niyad |
Dec-08-11 07:04 PM |
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As a woman over the age of 17 (32), I make a pledge to help any younger |
glowing |
Dec-08-11 03:09 PM |
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I will happily get the drug myself if any of my young friends has need. |
niyad |
Dec-08-11 07:06 PM |
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You know what? |
Le Taz Hot |
Dec-10-11 07:05 AM |
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This administration is sometimes quite crazy-making. |
Blue_In_AK |
Dec-09-11 01:31 AM |
#124 |
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