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168. it didnt make it any better. i get the joke. i think it is at the expense of a victim, dismisses
the horror of rape. i think the comedian that resorts to that humor is a lazy comedian. and people that laugh at that is par with someone that will laugh at a "retard" joke.

i know there are people that talk about dark humor. dark humor to me, is being ugly for a laugh. that is not in me. sorry.

i laugh and laugh at comedians all the time. i keep laugh u.s.a on my radio. we watch comedy channel often.

but no, i dont think it is meant as a social commentary. i think it is a lazy joke at the expense of the person they are going after. and i dont see it as going after the rapist.

what are you going to do. you cant take that

is exactly confirming a constant notion in mens head, though yes.... the majority would never rape.



" 25% of the men surveyed admitted some degree of sexually aggressive behavior

In a survey of high school students, 56% of the girls and 76% of the boys believed forced sex was acceptable under some circumstances. (ref 5)

51% of the boys and 41% of the girls said forced sex was acceptable if the boy, "spent a lot of money" on the girl;

65% of the boys and 47% of the girls said it was acceptable for a boy to rape a girl if they had been dating for more than six months.

43% of college-aged men admitted to using coercive behavior to have sex, including ignoring a woman's protest, using physical aggression, and forcing intercourse. "


http://www.uic.edu/depts/owa/sa_rape_support.html

Normative standards about the acceptability of the sexual assault of women remain
confused. In a 1993 national study of 1,700 sixth to ninth graders, a majority of the boys
considered rape acceptable under certain conditions and many of the girls agreed (Wallis
1995). According to several sources, 51 ‐ 60 percent of college men report that they would
rape a woman if they were certain that they could get away with it. One out of twelve
college men surveyed had committed acts the met the legal definition of rape; 84 percent
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of these men said what they did was definitely not rape

http://www.sanctuaryweb.com/PDFs_new/Bloom%20Sexual%20V...

51%-60% males would rape if they could get away with it.


i think where we are off on this discussion is we say few males (boy/men) feel rape is ok, or not a big deal, or only the scary ugly guy. i dont think that is a reality adn the study does not bare it out. i think young, males are raised in a manner, and girls too for that matter, that it is the way it is suppose to work, one reason or another.

we cant pretend that only the "bad" men rape. i dont think it is a reality. i think we need to be honest what we see in society.
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  -To all those men who dont think the rape jokes are a problem: ThomCat  Dec-07-11 05:18 PM   #0 
  - K&R, and a hide thread.  Brickbat   Dec-07-11 05:22 PM   #1 
  - i am told the page cannot be found. and i rec and still, shows up 0. i am sorry that  seabeyond   Dec-07-11 05:22 PM   #2 
  - here is a corrected link:  Ptah   Dec-07-11 05:25 PM   #3 
  - i appreciate it. thank you. nt  seabeyond   Dec-07-11 05:27 PM   #5 
  - TY  LiberalAndProud   Dec-07-11 05:30 PM   #6 
  - Sorry for the truncated link. It's fixed now.  ThomCat   Dec-07-11 05:33 PM   #7 
  - Rape's not funny.  Capitalocracy   Dec-07-11 05:27 PM   #4 
  - Lets not forget about all the men that were raped as boys  justiceischeap   Dec-07-11 05:38 PM   #9 
     - That reminds me of a student of mine from back in 1995  tblue37   Dec-07-11 06:15 PM   #25 
     - Boys/men  femrap   Dec-07-11 10:26 PM   #57 
        - that's ludicrous.  KittyWampus   Dec-07-11 11:13 PM   #62 
        - vaginas  femrap   Dec-07-11 11:14 PM   #63 
        - Wow, you need a serious education.  EOTE   Dec-08-11 12:50 PM   #84 
        - Further misinformation.  Pab Sungenis   Dec-08-11 04:36 PM   #156 
           - You'd think that would be common sense.  EOTE   Dec-08-11 04:57 PM   #160 
           - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-08-11 08:36 PM   #210 
              - your avatar is so ironic.  dionysus   Dec-08-11 08:40 PM   #213 
        - actually, the FBI does not include male rape and child rape in rape numbers.  seabeyond   Dec-07-11 11:31 PM   #65 
           - I too consider it rape and I think men and children aren't included in the numbers  justiceischeap   Dec-08-11 06:19 AM   #70 
           - yes...  seabeyond   Dec-08-11 07:03 AM   #71 
              - Wow, seriosuly?!?!  Charlemagne   Dec-08-11 12:35 PM   #82 
              - i kept calling it rape and hearing sexual assault. i was offended. call it what it is.  seabeyond   Dec-08-11 12:54 PM   #86 
              - Seems to me, not calling anal rape, rape, gives rapists more incentive  justiceischeap   Dec-08-11 01:36 PM   #92 
                 - from what i have read, seems it varies from state to state. but i am addressing what i read with FBI  seabeyond   Dec-08-11 01:42 PM   #96 
           - Technically, it IS rape.  EOTE   Dec-08-11 01:35 PM   #89 
           - women org (i dont know what one) has been petitioning to get this changed  seabeyond   Dec-08-11 01:39 PM   #94 
              - Once again, what the FBI classifies something as is irrelevant to this discussion.  EOTE   Dec-08-11 01:43 PM   #97 
                 - in your opinion. once again, i think my original post had relevance  seabeyond   Dec-08-11 01:46 PM   #99 
                    - Opinion has nothing to do with it. It's a FACT.  EOTE   Dec-08-11 01:48 PM   #100 
                    - dear GOD... the hysteria. how dare someone posts something you dont want them to. nt  seabeyond   Dec-08-11 01:58 PM   #110 
                       - LMFAO. Oh god, I needed that.  EOTE   Dec-08-11 02:02 PM   #115 
                          - sheeeeit, your emotional rollercoaster is off the scale. what can i say. nt  seabeyond   Dec-08-11 02:03 PM   #118 
                             - Punctuation is hard, isn't it? I don't know what you'd say, but I'm pretty sure...  EOTE   Dec-08-11 02:13 PM   #120 
                                - calm down, eote. people are allowed to have differing opinion. really,  seabeyond   Dec-08-11 02:23 PM   #123 
                                   - If only you'd learn that, you might go far. NT  EOTE   Dec-08-11 02:33 PM   #128 
                                   - i always get two for one with you. nt  seabeyond   Dec-08-11 02:36 PM   #131 
                                   - And by the way, only schizophrenics think that people can have differing opinions on facts.  EOTE   Dec-08-11 02:34 PM   #129 
                    - That post you responded to was responding to the bullshit assumption that men can't be raped.  EOTE   Dec-08-11 01:50 PM   #102 
           - Actually, they have changed that.  redqueen   Dec-08-11 01:50 PM   #101 
              - thank you redqueen. i had read something about it. wasnt sure if they had changed  seabeyond   Dec-08-11 02:00 PM   #112 
                 - My pleasure as always.  redqueen   Dec-08-11 02:02 PM   #114 
                    - then it must have been YOUR post i read, lol. nt  seabeyond   Dec-08-11 02:04 PM   #119 
        - It seems to me that your definition aids rapists  quakerboy   Dec-08-11 03:56 PM   #138 
        - deleted  redqueen   Dec-08-11 04:03 PM   #140 
        - Who knew  femrap   Dec-08-11 08:48 PM   #217 
           - wow  themadstork   Dec-08-11 10:36 PM   #242 
           - No shit.  redqueen   Dec-09-11 10:48 AM   #265 
           - Who knew that "femrap" wouldn't know how to use a dictionary?  thucythucy   Dec-10-11 08:55 PM   #287 
        - You know, I swore I was done with DU and would never come back  Pab Sungenis   Dec-08-11 04:34 PM   #154 
        - +1  dionysus   Dec-08-11 08:39 PM   #212 
        - Anatomy.  femrap   Dec-08-11 08:42 PM   #215 
        - what about the definition of rape is so fucking hard for YOU to understand?!!!?  dionysus   Dec-08-11 09:51 PM   #232 
        - "Women have 3 orifices down there?"  thucythucy   Dec-10-11 09:09 PM   #290 
           - Women's three orifices:  lbrtbell   Jan-12-12 02:17 AM   #296 
        - Thank you for this.  thucythucy   Dec-10-11 09:06 PM   #288 
        - That has to be one of the most offensive comments I've ever read on DU.  EOTE   Dec-08-11 05:01 PM   #161 
        - Wow. I'm always amazed at how people jut make shit up.  The Doctor.   Dec-08-11 06:07 PM   #179 
        - "Males can not get pregnant" and neither can some females so they can't be raped either?  uppityperson   Dec-08-11 06:51 PM   #187 
        - I am female. I was raped when I was 8 years old  Vanje   Dec-08-11 07:44 PM   #202 
        - No, I'm saying women  femrap   Dec-08-11 08:41 PM   #214 
           - No  Vanje   Dec-08-11 09:23 PM   #221 
           - And  femrap   Dec-09-11 10:24 AM   #262 
              - Good.  Vanje   Dec-09-11 09:12 PM   #276 
           - someone please take away that shovel...  dionysus   Dec-08-11 09:50 PM   #231 
           - Jesus Christ!  Vanje   Dec-09-11 11:18 AM   #266 
           - Intercourse is the term used for vaginal sex and sodemy is the term used for anal sex  FedUpWithIt All   Dec-09-11 10:22 PM   #278 
              - Who in the hell  femrap   Dec-09-11 10:33 PM   #279 
                 - I'm sorry for you. n/t  FedUpWithIt All   Dec-10-11 11:53 AM   #282 
        - that's one of the most ridiculous things i've ever read.  dionysus   Dec-08-11 08:38 PM   #211 
        - You and me both, Dionysus  Vanje   Dec-08-11 09:27 PM   #223 
           - i've read a lot of crazy shit on DU Vanje, and rarely do words fail me...  dionysus   Dec-08-11 09:40 PM   #228 
        - You need to open a dictionary,sodomy and rape are different things.nt  Swede   Dec-08-11 08:47 PM   #216 
        - Under the new definition of rape the FBI is now using  ThomCat   Dec-08-11 09:15 PM   #220 
        - Great, the FBI  femrap   Dec-09-11 10:15 AM   #261 
        - Completely untrue, and completely ignorant.  chrisa   Dec-09-11 09:36 PM   #277 
        - Shame on you.  JVS   Dec-10-11 09:09 PM   #289 
        - That is one of the most ignorant statements I've ever read anywhere ever  REP   Dec-10-11 10:04 PM   #292 
  - I must have led a sheltered life.  hifiguy   Dec-07-11 05:34 PM   #8 
  - Same here, I consider myself fortunate in that regard  arcane1   Dec-07-11 05:44 PM   #11 
  - You've never heard all the "jokes" about prison rape?  kath   Dec-07-11 05:56 PM   #14 
     - Now THAT I've heard on multiple occasions  arcane1   Dec-07-11 06:51 PM   #32 
        - all rape is deplorable  Skittles   Dec-07-11 07:16 PM   #36 
           - Agreed!  arcane1   Dec-07-11 08:22 PM   #39 
  - Please apreciate how lucky you have been.  ThomCat   Dec-07-11 05:51 PM   #13 
  - The only rape joke...  Charlemagne   Dec-08-11 12:41 PM   #83 
  - Well as the "he-man macho jock hammerhead" representative ...  Fantastic Anarchist   Dec-07-11 06:12 PM   #24 
  - W.o.w.  Zanzoobar   Dec-07-11 10:05 PM   #47 
  - The only rape joke  Lunacee2012   Dec-08-11 03:00 AM   #68 
  - I can't say I have "never" heard a non-prison rape joke. But only about once a decade.  ieoeja   Dec-09-11 02:40 PM   #269 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Dec-07-11 05:40 PM   #10 
  - Why single out men?  MellowDem   Dec-07-11 05:48 PM   #12 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Dec-07-11 06:00 PM   #15 
  - I am guessing we'll be exposed to jokes about raping little boys in showers...  Walk away   Dec-07-11 06:00 PM   #16 
  - of course we will and have had it happen already. the person was shot down pretty fast  seabeyond   Dec-07-11 06:05 PM   #19 
  - What?  The Doctor.   Dec-07-11 10:10 PM   #49 
  - wtf are you talking about now?  seabeyond   Dec-07-11 11:06 PM   #60 
     - I recommend 'coherence'.  The Doctor.   Dec-07-11 11:13 PM   #61 
     - I didn't make any such comment. I know you didn't *specifically* say I did, but you were pretty  Romulox   Dec-08-11 10:45 PM   #247 
        - wtf are you talking about. you come into a totally different thread  seabeyond   Dec-08-11 10:53 PM   #252 
           - I just don't want my name brought into your "shower joke" subthread. Not hard to figure out. nt  Romulox   Dec-08-11 10:57 PM   #254 
              - then get off my ass and talk to doctor. i believe he used your name  seabeyond   Dec-08-11 11:02 PM   #255 
                 - OK, whatever. I just don't want to be included. I apologize if aimed at the wrong direction. nt  Romulox   Dec-08-11 11:10 PM   #256 
                    - it was a very confusing time for me  seabeyond   Dec-08-11 11:25 PM   #259 
  - Was it the one about Michael Jackson consisting mostly of plastic?  zinnisking   Dec-08-11 05:15 PM   #166 
  - eew. no. i dont remember the joke but had something to do with sandusky and boys in shower. nt  seabeyond   Dec-08-11 05:37 PM   #169 
  - It's worth pointing out that despite my name coming up, I did NOT make the joke to which this poster  Romulox   Dec-08-11 10:44 PM   #246 
     - nooooooo. the poster said something about shower jokes coming up  seabeyond   Dec-08-11 10:49 PM   #249 
        - OK, thanks for clearing it up. Because my name got dragged into it, somehow. nt  Romulox   Dec-08-11 10:51 PM   #250 
  - Of course. And prison rape. And other situations. Of course the same standards apply  uppityperson   Dec-07-11 06:54 PM   #33 
  - There's a corrected link above and I think you should read  cally   Dec-07-11 06:01 PM   #17 
  - Most of the humor on comedy central...  MellowDem   Dec-07-11 06:31 PM   #27 
  - I posted this because I think they're widespread.  ThomCat   Dec-07-11 06:01 PM   #18 
  - But are they that widespread in reality?  MellowDem   Dec-07-11 06:41 PM   #29 
     - An ex-husband once told me, "if you think what they (male co-workers) say in your presence  spooky3   Dec-07-11 09:23 PM   #45 
     - I can't believe you think there's any context in which a rape joke is acceptable.  BlueIris   Dec-07-11 10:14 PM   #52 
        - Well, like I said...  MellowDem   Dec-08-11 01:31 PM   #88 
           - But one in six people don't microwave fetuses.  redqueen   Dec-08-11 02:19 PM   #122 
              - i have read 3 different studies having different numbers stating 43%-60% would rape  seabeyond   Dec-08-11 02:28 PM   #125 
              - It says a hell of a lot.  redqueen   Dec-08-11 02:31 PM   #126 
              - It says something that I know of several guys in college who DID!  ThomCat   Dec-08-11 09:26 PM   #222 
                 - yup. nt  seabeyond   Dec-08-11 09:29 PM   #225 
              - Hmm, one in six men have raped women?  MellowDem   Dec-08-11 05:06 PM   #164 
                 - The study has been posted more than once in this very thread.  redqueen   Dec-08-11 05:12 PM   #165 
                    - The OP's link...  MellowDem   Dec-08-11 06:37 PM   #185 
                       - Where are those "many studies that contradict that study?"  ThomCat   Dec-08-11 09:27 PM   #224 
                       - Considering the original study hasn't even been linked...  MellowDem   Dec-08-11 09:57 PM   #237 
                       - Link  redqueen   Dec-08-11 10:32 PM   #240 
                          - This link contradicts the claim...  MellowDem   Dec-09-11 05:11 PM   #275 
                             - I would not trust any so called study that relied upon self-reporting as a rapist, ffs.  No Elephants   Jan-11-12 06:28 PM   #295 
  - wow, make this about yourself your family and men... instead of reading the thing and giving anyone  bettyellen   Dec-07-11 11:38 PM   #66 
     - What bull...  MellowDem   Dec-08-11 01:36 PM   #91 
  - How about jokes about how guns are better than women?  wryter2000   Dec-07-11 06:05 PM   #20 
  - It's the same as people telling racist jokes then pleading they aren't racist  Nuclear Unicorn   Dec-07-11 06:05 PM   #21 
  - +1  ThomCat   Dec-07-11 06:09 PM   #23 
  - nuclear.... you shine. i love that.  seabeyond   Dec-07-11 06:49 PM   #31 
     - Thank-you, lady.  Nuclear Unicorn   Dec-08-11 07:36 AM   #74 
  - I don't see who would laugh at a rape joke.  Fantastic Anarchist   Dec-07-11 06:09 PM   #22 
  - Well of course rapists think we're all rapists.  Iggo   Dec-07-11 08:27 PM   #41 
     - Precisely.  redqueen   Dec-08-11 02:01 PM   #113 
  - Rape jokes are kind of like 'voter fraud'.  The Doctor.   Dec-07-11 06:16 PM   #26 
  - it's not feeding the fires of misandry, it;s about asking men to step up to the plate for us  bettyellen   Dec-08-11 05:58 PM   #177 
  - I'm not the one who missed the point.  The Doctor.   Dec-08-11 07:15 PM   #193 
     - false equivelency. if women were castrating men in large numbers, you'd have a point  bettyellen   Dec-08-11 07:38 PM   #200 
        - So it's okay for women to laugh at male mutilation because it doesn't happen often?  The Doctor.   Dec-08-11 09:00 PM   #218 
           - no. i dont think it is ok to laugh at that. but i dont ever think hurting another is funny. nt  seabeyond   Dec-08-11 09:02 PM   #219 
           - Not even a rapist?  The Doctor.   Dec-08-11 09:51 PM   #233 
              - no. not even a rapist. nt  seabeyond   Dec-08-11 09:57 PM   #236 
           - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-08-11 10:52 PM   #251 
              - Did I touch a sore spot?  The Doctor.   Dec-08-11 11:19 PM   #257 
              - Or, wait... are you saying that the emotional damage that women can do  The Doctor.   Dec-08-11 11:23 PM   #258 
  - "Feeding the fires of misandry" seems  thucythucy   Dec-14-11 03:57 PM   #293 
  - Point Me Toward the Rape Jokes Where men think it's funny. It's awful  dballance   Dec-07-11 06:39 PM   #28 
  - On things like this,  The Doctor.   Dec-07-11 10:22 PM   #56 
  - Here you go:  BlueIris   Dec-07-11 10:39 PM   #59 
  - Why can't someone joke about sending someone else to another country?  EOTE   Dec-08-11 01:37 PM   #93 
     - Because what is supposed to make a joke like that funny  ThomCat   Dec-08-11 09:33 PM   #226 
  - Facebook refuses to take down comments or pages which joke about rape.  redqueen   Dec-08-11 01:52 PM   #103 
  - Also, post 73 in this very thread. (nt)  redqueen   Dec-08-11 01:53 PM   #104 
  - prison rape  G_j   Dec-08-11 10:54 PM   #253 
  - Joking about rape is like joking about murder  lbrtbell   Dec-07-11 06:47 PM   #30 
  - depends on who's telling them  sylveste   Dec-07-11 07:14 PM   #35 
     - I can't believe you think there would be an acceptable way to "joke" about the Holocaust  BlueIris   Dec-07-11 10:10 PM   #48 
     - and what is the impact  sylveste   Dec-08-11 04:42 PM   #157 
        - wow. so many men claim rape jokes just are not told as you claim you hear plenty  seabeyond   Dec-08-11 05:04 PM   #163 
           - deleted  redqueen   Dec-08-11 10:37 PM   #243 
     - no  handmade34   Dec-08-11 02:46 PM   #134 
  - K & R  Withywindle   Dec-07-11 06:58 PM   #34 
  - My friend who is a rape survivor has nasty flashbacks because of rape jokes.  Odin2005   Dec-07-11 08:08 PM   #37 
  - I have a friend with similar issues.  The Doctor.   Dec-07-11 09:16 PM   #44 
  - Thank you for posting this  varelse   Dec-07-11 08:16 PM   #38 
  - I guess I've lived a lot more sheltered life than a lot of you people - I never grew up with or have  apocalypsehow   Dec-07-11 08:26 PM   #40 
  - k and r--thank you for posting this.  niyad   Dec-07-11 08:31 PM   #42 
  - Hmmm...don't know any male that would make 'rape jokes'  Rex   Dec-07-11 08:34 PM   #43 
  - Yes, they're everywhere... do your own research...  The Doctor.   Dec-07-11 10:13 PM   #51 
  - This link has some examples.  redqueen   Dec-08-11 01:59 PM   #111 
     - I was referring to DU.  The Doctor.   Dec-08-11 06:48 PM   #186 
  - This link has some examples.  redqueen   Dec-08-11 01:58 PM   #109 
  - Recommended. nt  ZombieHorde   Dec-07-11 09:59 PM   #46 
  - When Sandusky gets raped by a monster, some people will laugh.  Zanzoobar   Dec-07-11 10:11 PM   #50 
  - Dear God.  BlueIris   Dec-07-11 10:18 PM   #54 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-07-11 10:21 PM   #55 
     - Well, let me rephrase.  Zanzoobar   Dec-07-11 11:19 PM   #64 
     - So, you advocate rape.  Fantastic Anarchist   Dec-08-11 07:09 AM   #72 
     - exactly. that is exactly what the poster is doing.  seabeyond   Dec-08-11 08:30 AM   #75 
     - No need to thank. It's not a noble thing to speak up when you see something wrong.  Fantastic Anarchist   Dec-08-11 10:15 AM   #79 
     - I hope they love him like he's loved others.  Zanzoobar   Dec-08-11 06:06 PM   #178 
        - an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.  Odin2005   Dec-08-11 09:39 PM   #227 
     - I don't think it's wrong  robbob   Dec-08-11 02:41 PM   #132 
     - Thank you. An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind.  Luminous Animal   Dec-08-11 03:17 AM   #69 
        - I absolutely love platitudes!  Zanzoobar   Dec-08-11 06:07 PM   #180 
  - Thank you -- and think THIS way of checking what you're doing is a wise one ....  defendandprotect   Dec-07-11 10:14 PM   #53 
  - I loved this part  themadstork   Dec-08-11 02:14 PM   #121 
     - black/dark humor exists out of personal emotional necessity  TorchTheWitch   Dec-08-11 07:53 PM   #206 
        - Such purity, and so self-righteous!  themadstork   Dec-08-11 10:34 PM   #241 
  - outstanding post nt  Vanje   Dec-07-11 10:31 PM   #58 
  - Along these same lines...  CoffeeCat   Dec-08-11 12:04 AM   #67 
  - Personally.. I can see this bothering people...  Corruption Winz   Dec-08-11 07:25 AM   #73 
  - "you want to have sex with them and they won't let you""what other choice do you have?"  seabeyond   Dec-08-11 08:34 AM   #76 
  - It's not about twisting it...  Corruption Winz   Dec-08-11 09:47 AM   #77 
     - i dont agree with you. i think words matter. i think the normalization  seabeyond   Dec-08-11 10:01 AM   #78 
        - The joke points out the flawed mindset of rapists  themadstork   Dec-08-11 02:32 PM   #127 
           - but i dont agree. i understand that is the validation for the joke. but i dont agree  seabeyond   Dec-08-11 02:42 PM   #133 
              - I haven't seen how it was delivered.  themadstork   Dec-08-11 03:53 PM   #137 
              - no, i dont think as a progressive and evolved civilized society, rape should not be entertainment  seabeyond   Dec-08-11 04:09 PM   #143 
              - A question...  quakerboy   Dec-08-11 04:27 PM   #151 
                 - it didnt make it any better. i get the joke. i think it is at the expense of a victim, dismisses  seabeyond   Dec-08-11 05:36 PM   #168 
                    - Interesting.  quakerboy   Dec-08-11 07:08 PM   #191 
                       - i see the "date rape" a little differently than a lot of people  seabeyond   Dec-08-11 07:20 PM   #194 
                          - No, they're not different at all.  polly7   Dec-08-11 07:29 PM   #196 
                             - so... even though i acknowledge immediately that i see it differently  seabeyond   Dec-08-11 07:32 PM   #198 
                                - Well the comedian I refer to that uses a forum to joke at the sickness of the mentality  polly7   Dec-08-11 07:49 PM   #205 
                                   - do you really think i was comparing a rapist behavior/comedians behavior?  seabeyond   Dec-08-11 07:56 PM   #207 
                                      - You're kidding, right?  polly7   Dec-08-11 08:03 PM   #208 
                                         - i understand. i get that. totally. hence, me saying  seabeyond   Dec-08-11 08:10 PM   #209 
  - I get what you're saying.  polly7   Dec-08-11 02:03 PM   #117 
  - Nice analysis  themadstork   Dec-08-11 02:25 PM   #124 
  - Jokes like that reinforce the idea in the 1 in 6 men who DO rape  redqueen   Dec-08-11 02:35 PM   #130 
  - You're not going to get much by way of 'comprehension' on this subject.  The Doctor.   Dec-08-11 05:56 PM   #176 
  - I imagine many people place a higher priority on vulgarity  LanternWaste   Dec-09-11 10:44 AM   #263 
  - Thank You, ThomCat.  MarianJack   Dec-08-11 12:19 PM   #80 
  - Thank you ThomCat.  myrna minx   Dec-08-11 12:34 PM   #81 
  - The numbers don't add up.  caseymoz   Dec-08-11 12:51 PM   #85 
  - This link has the wording.  redqueen   Dec-08-11 01:55 PM   #106 
     - Suppose you went into a survey, and you were maybe paid a few bucks . . .  caseymoz   Dec-09-11 12:27 PM   #267 
        - Of course women are under-reporting it.  redqueen   Dec-09-11 02:50 PM   #270 
           - How do you know men aren't over-reporting it then?  caseymoz   Dec-09-11 03:56 PM   #271 
              - Right. Rape statistics are as meaningful as birther nonsense.  redqueen   Dec-09-11 04:06 PM   #274 
                 - You mean you're shutting me out of your ward?  caseymoz   Dec-10-11 07:01 PM   #284 
                    - You compared researching rape statistics to researching birther nonsense.  redqueen   Dec-10-11 07:06 PM   #285 
  - You are right!  Lady Freedom Returns   Dec-08-11 12:59 PM   #87 
  - Thank you, ThomCat! n/t  FourScore   Dec-08-11 01:36 PM   #90 
  - The ONLY issue i have with the article is the statement that 1 in 20 men is a rapist.  ret5hd   Dec-08-11 01:41 PM   #95 
  - It's true, they will admit it, as long as you don't call it rape.  redqueen   Dec-08-11 01:55 PM   #105 
  - If you don't call it rape, but instead ask,  ThomCat   Dec-08-11 09:44 PM   #229 
     - How big a study was this? Less than 200 i believe.  ret5hd   Dec-08-11 09:54 PM   #235 
        - Almost 2000. (nt)  redqueen   Dec-08-11 10:40 PM   #244 
  - Thanks for posting this here.  redqueen   Dec-08-11 01:45 PM   #98 
  - Any link to proof that rapists think all men are rapists?  Common Sense Party   Dec-08-11 01:55 PM   #107 
  - Most tax cheats think 'everyone does it'.  redqueen   Dec-08-11 01:56 PM   #108 
  - Any proof of that? I didn't think so.  Common Sense Party   Dec-08-11 03:53 PM   #136 
     - I tried looking for proof but there's so much stuff about rape...  redqueen   Dec-08-11 04:00 PM   #139 
        - Those are quite different subjects, but if they're being presented as facts  Common Sense Party   Dec-08-11 04:07 PM   #141 
           - Yep, a cite would have helped.  redqueen   Dec-08-11 04:15 PM   #146 
  - Uh, if they think it's normal. . .  themadstork   Dec-08-11 02:02 PM   #116 
  - No, normal behavior doesn't mean ubiquitous behavior.  Common Sense Party   Dec-08-11 03:41 PM   #135 
  - when we look for moral justification we tend to believe that everyone would behave  La Lioness Priyanka   Dec-09-11 11:14 PM   #280 
  - How's about a little devil's advocating...  DaveJ   Dec-08-11 04:07 PM   #142 
  - Yes, rape is different than falling down stairs.  themadstork   Dec-08-11 04:09 PM   #144 
  - " Is rape any different? " yes. rape is different than falling down stairs. nt  seabeyond   Dec-08-11 04:12 PM   #145 
  - I see you are not responding past the first line  DaveJ   Dec-08-11 04:18 PM   #147 
  - sigh... that line alone tells readers how clueless you are on the issue of rape  seabeyond   Dec-08-11 05:39 PM   #170 
  - I took that first line to mean 'would the reaction of someone who's been  polly7   Dec-08-11 07:06 PM   #189 
     - and still... i say, yes, it would be different than falling down the stairs.  seabeyond   Dec-08-11 07:08 PM   #192 
        - Holy shit, what a lot of nerve you've got.  polly7   Dec-08-11 07:23 PM   #195 
        - this to me sounds like you are saying you get it and it doesnt bother you.  seabeyond   Dec-08-11 07:29 PM   #197 
           - How sickening your games are.  polly7   Dec-08-11 07:37 PM   #199 
              - then dont post on my post. see how easy that is. every. time. i talk to you  seabeyond   Dec-08-11 07:39 PM   #201 
                 - I politely pointed out that I understood something differently,  polly7   Dec-08-11 07:45 PM   #203 
                 - delete. dupe.  polly7   Dec-08-11 07:45 PM   #204 
  - I seriously cannot believe ...  redqueen   Dec-08-11 04:18 PM   #148 
  - Straw man. Nobody jokes about rape except for ignorant plicks. nt  mistertrickster   Dec-08-11 04:21 PM   #149 
  - I've never heard a rape joke, but it was mentioned that Sarah Silverman does  DaveJ   Dec-08-11 04:24 PM   #150 
  - There are lots of people who do it, and not people you have to pay to see them from.  redqueen   Dec-08-11 04:28 PM   #152 
  - You could also just say 'it depends on the nature of the joke'  DaveJ   Dec-08-11 04:31 PM   #153 
  - I was addressing this persistent idea some men have  redqueen   Dec-08-11 04:35 PM   #155 
     - Ok sorry for going off on a tangent...  DaveJ   Dec-08-11 04:47 PM   #158 
        - I think it also applies to Sarah.  redqueen   Dec-08-11 04:51 PM   #159 
  - Or not get bent out of shape about something that's really not a big problem? nt  mistertrickster   Dec-08-11 06:16 PM   #182 
  - Don't know if she's a liberal, but I do know she's NOT FUNNY. nt  mistertrickster   Dec-08-11 06:14 PM   #181 
     - i have given her a try a handful of times. i dont see it either  seabeyond   Dec-08-11 06:24 PM   #184 
  - poster 157 says he has heard jokes often? forget what he says. seems like comedians use it.  seabeyond   Dec-08-11 05:40 PM   #171 
  - How do you know that?  ThomCat   Dec-08-11 09:50 PM   #230 
  - I,m a guy who just put this article as my status on facebook  ashling   Dec-08-11 05:02 PM   #162 
  - you are a guy?????  seabeyond   Dec-08-11 05:43 PM   #173 
     - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Dec-08-11 06:56 PM   #188 
     - Really? C'mon, you know you can't see  ashling   Dec-08-11 10:13 PM   #238 
     - bah hahaha.  seabeyond   Dec-08-11 10:19 PM   #239 
     - No, that's not 'sexist' at all.  The Doctor.   Jan-11-12 05:55 PM   #294 
  - Unfortunately, a lot of comedians whom I really enjoy reference rape in their material.  RandomKoolzip   Dec-08-11 05:32 PM   #167 
  - Reading that joke by Oswalt,  redqueen   Dec-08-11 05:42 PM   #172 
     - .  seabeyond   Dec-08-11 05:49 PM   #174 
        - The joke is that there's this terrible B movie from the 1970s  RandomKoolzip   Dec-08-11 05:55 PM   #175 
           - ok  seabeyond   Dec-08-11 06:18 PM   #183 
  - Thanks Thom for posting this! Not much more I can add at this late stage of the thread. nt  riderinthestorm   Dec-08-11 07:06 PM   #190 
  - I believe that most men don't even KNOW any Rape jokes.  BlueJazz   Dec-08-11 09:53 PM   #234 
  - I would definitely hope so...  redqueen   Dec-08-11 10:44 PM   #245 
  - I think it's fair to say that this entire thread was occasioned by a joke by Sarah Silverman.  Romulox   Dec-08-11 10:47 PM   #248 
  - Very doubtful.  ThomCat   Dec-09-11 12:50 AM   #260 
     - The article in the OP was published two weeks after the Sarah Silverman rape joke controversy  Romulox   Dec-09-11 10:45 AM   #264 
  - There are just some things you never joke about.  arbusto_baboso   Dec-09-11 01:14 PM   #268 
  - caught an episode of  sylveste   Dec-09-11 03:57 PM   #272 
  - Tell Larry David.  Warren DeMontague   Dec-09-11 04:02 PM   #273 
  - And this...  Throd   Dec-10-11 12:09 AM   #281 
  - That woman is a mess. So glad no-one was picked up and charged for her lies.  polly7   Dec-10-11 12:05 PM   #283 
  - I love you even more for this post, Mr Cat  musette_sf   Dec-10-11 07:32 PM   #286 
  - Thank you for posting this  thucythucy   Dec-10-11 09:32 PM   #291 
  - Great post, thanks, ThomCat!  Zorra   Jan-13-12 09:32 AM   #297 
 

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