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47. Absolutely. I find that by and large they are fed by soundbytes.
And other radicalized information that doesn't reflect reality.

I spent a year where all I heard was far 'left' authoritarian socialist garbage being touted as fact, from Gaddafi's propaganda machine. Out of all of the propagandists 4 of them were actually TS'd (the others are more careful).
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  -If Obama has 81% approval among liberals, why does DU not reflect that? Bonobo  Dec-06-11 12:29 AM   #0 
  - Because it has to be done.  ellisonz   Dec-06-11 12:31 AM   #1 
  - Among "which" liberals does Obama have this approval?  flvegan   Dec-06-11 12:31 AM   #2 
  - Correction: among which "liberals" does he have this approval? n/t  gkhouston   Dec-06-11 12:32 AM   #3 
  - those of in the reality based community.  KittyWampus   Dec-06-11 04:50 PM   #192 
     - Obama is a populist himself now.  hulka38   Dec-06-11 10:09 PM   #211 
  - I have wondered that too.  CaliforniaPeggy   Dec-06-11 12:33 AM   #4 
  - And, being political junkies, we are better informed.  Lasher   Dec-06-11 12:54 AM   #16 
  - I disagree. DUers are exposed to way more lies and propaganda.  TheWraith   Dec-06-11 01:17 AM   #19 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-06-11 01:34 AM   #28 
  - You can cherry pick examples of misinformation here  Tsiyu   Dec-06-11 02:31 AM   #36 
  - Well said, thanks. n/t  Scuba   Dec-06-11 05:44 AM   #60 
  - Thank you. I was about to post the same thing. n/t  Dawgs   Dec-06-11 07:11 AM   #78 
  - +1. NT  EOTE   Dec-06-11 09:40 AM   #112 
  - Yeah, but when the "cherry picked" misinformation blankets the home page  Number23   Dec-06-11 04:52 PM   #194 
  - *chuckle*  shellgame26   Dec-06-11 09:55 AM   #115 
  - I disagree  XemaSab   Dec-06-11 02:33 AM   #37 
  - Hey, Xema, E/E is far more informed than...  joshcryer   Dec-06-11 04:17 AM   #50 
  - If you don't mind my asking, what is E/E? Thanks.  SalviaBlue   Dec-06-11 11:06 AM   #146 
  - And offshore wind  XemaSab   Dec-06-11 01:05 PM   #167 
  - You just proved the point many of us are making. Some on DU are just as susceptible  Liberal_Stalwart71   Dec-06-11 08:22 AM   #91 
  - +1  freshwest   Dec-06-11 05:23 PM   #203 
  - The term 'liberal' is so loosey-goosey that anyone who self-identfifies  coalition_unwilling   Dec-06-11 08:54 AM   #99 
  - what is radical in the usa  reggie the dog   Dec-06-11 10:00 AM   #116 
     - Yep. And this has resulted in some ridiculous  socialist_n_TN   Dec-06-11 10:10 AM   #122 
  - The media has a bias for "wrong"  treestar   Dec-06-11 10:58 AM   #139 
  - Damn this is good.  Enthusiast   Dec-06-11 03:48 PM   #183 
  - +1. nt  MADem   Dec-06-11 03:29 AM   #41 
  - Absolutely. I find that by and large they are fed by soundbytes.  joshcryer   Dec-06-11 04:12 AM   #47 
  - +1 +  Itchinjim   Dec-06-11 04:16 AM   #49 
  - Right on target!  polmaven   Dec-06-11 06:27 AM   #68 
  - Well said...  SidDithers   Dec-06-11 06:43 AM   #72 
  - so true. nt  Codeine   Dec-06-11 06:51 AM   #74 
  - Ummm...You missed post where Sen. Durbin admits SS is funding "other programs."  KoKo   Dec-06-11 06:53 AM   #75 
  - Exactly!! +1!  Liberal_Stalwart71   Dec-06-11 08:20 AM   #90 
  - Dumbest post of the millenium, so far  Doctor_J   Dec-06-11 08:26 AM   #92 
  - You got that right, its unbelieveable how gullible we are!!!  watercolors   Dec-06-11 10:02 AM   #117 
  - We are such dummies.  Enthusiast   Dec-06-11 03:52 PM   #184 
  - Wrong.  Rex   Dec-06-11 11:22 AM   #152 
  - Yep. eom  JuniperLea   Dec-06-11 11:46 AM   #161 
  - You're wrong again. Imagine that.  Enthusiast   Dec-06-11 03:45 PM   #182 
  - I agree that many DUers are not too savvy.  Vattel   Dec-06-11 09:02 PM   #208 
  - Yeah, like the guy today who claimed Obama  nobodyspecial   Dec-06-11 02:19 AM   #35 
  - We are not without our fools.  Lasher   Dec-06-11 06:15 AM   #64 
  - That's TeaBagger thinking...  JuniperLea   Dec-06-11 11:46 AM   #162 
     - There are Teabaggers here  Enthusiast   Dec-06-11 03:55 PM   #185 
  - I would disagree  hack89   Dec-06-11 10:44 AM   #132 
  - This is true, but that weakness is not unique to DU.  Lasher   Dec-06-11 02:01 PM   #170 
  - Sort of  treestar   Dec-06-11 10:56 AM   #136 
  - Our biases are stronger also.  LanternWaste   Dec-06-11 02:06 PM   #171 
  - Yes, that is true.  Lasher   Dec-06-11 02:31 PM   #175 
  - You THINK you're better informed. Actually, it's a matter of seeking out info that fits your bias.  KittyWampus   Dec-06-11 04:51 PM   #193 
     - We are all guilty of bias.  Lasher   Dec-07-11 10:32 AM   #223 
  - I have several friends who are not poetical junkies that feel the same way I do.  mod mom   Dec-06-11 06:56 AM   #76 
  - Do they hate Emily Dickinson, too?  Ikonoklast   Dec-07-11 08:30 AM   #222 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-06-11 11:21 AM   #151 
  - As political junkies, we know/should know every initiative/action that is not  indepat   Dec-06-11 03:18 PM   #178 
  - I did a poll the other day addressing some of what you ask  Angry Dragon   Dec-06-11 12:33 AM   #5 
  - yeah, there are a lot of people on DU who thinks believing in conspiracy theories  JI7   Dec-06-11 12:33 AM   #6 
  - GMTA  Number23   Dec-06-11 01:36 AM   #30 
  - Exactly. BTW, did you ever hear of the Moorer-Radford Affair?  Octafish   Dec-06-11 10:07 AM   #119 
     - Not sure if there's a point in there somewhere  Number23   Dec-06-11 04:56 PM   #195 
     - It's one of many government conspiracies people can learn about on DU they wouldn't otherwise know.  Octafish   Dec-06-11 07:12 PM   #205 
        - Err.. judging by the fact that you linked to pieces by The Atlantic and other sources  Number23   Dec-06-11 08:16 PM   #207 
           - No. They're no theory. They are crimes by government officials.  Octafish   Dec-06-11 09:56 PM   #209 
              - Listen, if you want to believe that somehow DU provides some "news" and "history"  Number23   Dec-06-11 10:06 PM   #210 
              - Now that you bring it up, thank you! I appreciate your concern.  Octafish   Dec-07-11 12:02 AM   #218 
                 - Your posts and insistence that DU is the only hub for certain conspiracy theories  Number23   Dec-07-11 02:41 PM   #224 
                    - You are wrong there. I did not mention any ''conspiracy theories.'' You did.  Octafish   Dec-07-11 04:26 PM   #225 
                       - I repeat  Number23   Dec-07-11 05:47 PM   #227 
                          - Sorry you feel that way. I believe people come here to learn.  Octafish   Dec-08-11 09:54 AM   #230 
              - Amen, Octafish.  Mimosa   Dec-07-11 05:59 PM   #229 
                 - Thanks, Mimosa!  Octafish   Dec-08-11 10:10 AM   #231 
     - ever read about the loss of the USS Scorpion sub in 1968?  Gabi Hayes   Dec-06-11 07:58 PM   #206 
        - Heartbreaking loss.  Octafish   Dec-07-11 08:22 AM   #221 
  - I see they got to you, too.  Ikonoklast   Dec-06-11 02:31 PM   #174 
  - Pretty simple really  The Straight Story   Dec-06-11 12:34 AM   #7 
  - I'd say I approve, too.  Union Scribe   Dec-06-11 12:35 AM   #8 
  - Exactly. I am not giving pollsters ammunition  Mojorabbit   Dec-06-11 02:02 AM   #32 
  - Because we're all right-wingers in disguise incognito here to make Skinner's life a living hell!!  Major Hogwash   Dec-06-11 12:35 AM   #9 
  - Who is it that believes themselves to be "liberal Democrats?"  Rhiannon12866   Dec-06-11 12:36 AM   #10 
  - If you posted a poll, it would be self-selecting, which means it wouldn't likely...  ClassWarrior   Dec-06-11 12:36 AM   #11 
  - "Liberal Democrats" identify as Democrats.  pnwmom   Dec-06-11 12:40 AM   #12 
  - +1. Liberal here, but don't consider myself a Democrat anymore. n/t  Dawgs   Dec-06-11 07:14 AM   #79 
  - DU'ers are more independent minded than diehard/rank-and-file democrats  mazzarro   Dec-06-11 12:44 AM   #13 
  - +1  Liberalynn   Dec-06-11 11:29 AM   #156 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-06-11 12:51 AM   #14 
  - I can't believe that 19% of liberals would bash Obama in a poll.  Tx4obama   Dec-06-11 12:52 AM   #15 
  - Obama blocked discussion of a national HC system for all ...  slipslidingaway   Dec-06-11 01:23 AM   #23 
  - How long will you keep telling yourself this lie?  MjolnirTime   Dec-06-11 01:32 AM   #26 
  - How is it a lie? n/t  Dawgs   Dec-06-11 07:14 AM   #80 
  - So you're going to ignore all the GOOD things he has done?  Tx4obama   Dec-06-11 01:53 AM   #31 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-06-11 08:37 AM   #93 
     - perhaps they are medical marijuana users  reggie the dog   Dec-06-11 10:09 AM   #121 
  - ?  reggie the dog   Dec-06-11 10:07 AM   #118 
  - DU ain't right in the head.  Scurrilous   Dec-06-11 12:56 AM   #17 
  - Polls are not nearly as helpful as they could be if more effort was put into them  Blasphemer   Dec-06-11 12:59 AM   #18 
  - There could be lots of reasons.  LoZoccolo   Dec-06-11 01:19 AM   #20 
  - Oh, and another reason.  LoZoccolo   Dec-06-11 01:21 AM   #21 
  - How is that not a conspiracy theory too?  WildNovember   Dec-06-11 02:12 AM   #34 
     - It is a conspiracy theory, yes.  LoZoccolo   Dec-06-11 10:40 AM   #131 
  - +1 to your point four  Itchinjim   Dec-06-11 04:20 AM   #53 
  - I think they leave because of the many, many trolls.  Rex   Dec-06-11 11:25 AM   #154 
  - Probably this:  Smarmie Doofus   Dec-06-11 01:22 AM   #22 
  - Liberals believe that progress can be acheived by tweeking the present system.  Deep13   Dec-06-11 01:28 AM   #24 
  - Bring on the Revolution, huh, Che?  MjolnirTime   Dec-06-11 01:32 AM   #27 
  - Marxism is so 20th century.  Deep13   Dec-06-11 02:45 AM   #39 
     - Bash 'em with a pendulum?...nt  SidDithers   Dec-06-11 07:44 AM   #83 
        - LOL. I meant Michel Foucault. nt  Deep13   Dec-06-11 12:17 PM   #163 
  - The problem is that some people believe that fundamental change is going to come from outside the  BzaDem   Dec-06-11 04:17 AM   #51 
  - An even worse version of that 3-step "logic"  Silent3   Dec-06-11 10:47 AM   #133 
  - Your analysis is too all-or-nothing.  Deep13   Dec-06-11 12:24 PM   #165 
  - Not all of us know better...  LanternWaste   Dec-06-11 02:19 PM   #173 
     - Really? You're getting snippy because of an "e?"  Deep13   Dec-06-11 03:15 PM   #176 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-06-11 01:31 AM   #25 
  - I suppose you think we are all anarcho-syndicalists then.  Hardrada   Dec-06-11 01:36 AM   #29 
  - Socialists or Communists huh? nt  Raine   Dec-06-11 02:42 AM   #38 
  - In my best newspeak, liberal means conservative (nt)  T S Justly   Dec-06-11 02:09 AM   #33 
  - I believe DU trends to the left of the party as a whole.  MADem   Dec-06-11 03:28 AM   #40 
  - Simple. Only a few Obama supporters post or vote here anymore. n/t  lamp_shade   Dec-06-11 03:37 AM   #42 
  - I question the definition of liberal...  haikugal   Dec-06-11 03:53 AM   #43 
  - Obviously all DUers are not Liberals and all Liberals are not Democrats.  MilesColtrane   Dec-06-11 04:07 AM   #44 
  - Liberal *democrats*. Most of the loudest individuals here are *not* "Liberal democrats."  joshcryer   Dec-06-11 04:09 AM   #45 
  - It is sort of besides the point. If the percentage of people who disapprove of Obama from the left  BzaDem   Dec-06-11 04:11 AM   #46 
  - If you look at consensus during epic discussions here, I think the sample is more accurate.  joshcryer   Dec-06-11 04:15 AM   #48 
  - I suppose I was weighting the sample towards those who post frequently.  BzaDem   Dec-06-11 04:20 AM   #52 
  - I love it when that happens. It's like a class reunion. So good to hear from the old-timers.  lamp_shade   Dec-06-11 04:39 AM   #56 
  - True A person on the extremes has to deal with the reality  treestar   Dec-06-11 11:02 AM   #142 
  - DU has a lot of non democratic members  madokie   Dec-06-11 04:21 AM   #54 
  - the general public is more apt to think in terms relative to what passes for acceptable debate in  Douglas Carpenter   Dec-06-11 04:30 AM   #55 
  - +1  Liberalynn   Dec-06-11 11:44 AM   #160 
  - Yeah..  sendero   Dec-06-11 05:11 AM   #57 
  - DU is left of left.  DCBob   Dec-06-11 05:29 AM   #58 
  - Because liberals, with one eye on the right, will defend BHO whether ...  Scuba   Dec-06-11 05:42 AM   #59 
  - I believe this is the right answer.  EFerrari   Dec-06-11 08:55 AM   #100 
  - Yep, me too. Example: I'd like the Affordable Healthcare Act repealed....  Scuba   Dec-06-11 09:38 AM   #111 
     - Right. And this is exactly why that whole "shy Kerry voters" explanation  EFerrari   Dec-06-11 11:05 AM   #145 
  - Best answer award alert!  Enthusiast   Dec-06-11 04:13 PM   #188 
  - I have no way of knowing how the poll was conducted but I don't  mmonk   Dec-06-11 05:47 AM   #61 
  - It's all in how the question is worded.  hobbit709   Dec-06-11 05:53 AM   #62 
  - Because people who criticize Obama's policies at whitehouse.gov--  eridani   Dec-06-11 06:12 AM   #63 
  - I'll go with the "You believe Gallup? The 81% number is full of shit. " option. n/t  Junkdrawer   Dec-06-11 06:19 AM   #65 
  - You're all wrong ! And,I am right......  Uben   Dec-06-11 06:20 AM   #66 
  - Well said.  randome   Dec-06-11 08:46 AM   #95 
  - I think its due to the fact that self labeling is not an exact science.  Marrah_G   Dec-06-11 06:25 AM   #67 
  - 4 out of 5 dentists surveyed would recommend sugarless gum to their patients who chew gum  tomm2thumbs   Dec-06-11 06:30 AM   #69 
  - Depends upon interpretation of the question -  TBF   Dec-06-11 06:36 AM   #70 
  - DU in no way, shape or form represents the real world...nt  SidDithers   Dec-06-11 06:40 AM   #71 
  - 2010 and OWS. I'd say DU is more in line with reality than you think.  Edweird   Dec-06-11 06:46 AM   #73 
  - You'd be wrong...nt  SidDithers   Dec-06-11 07:24 AM   #82 
  - Right, who am going to believe; you or my lying eyes? All you have is "Unrec n/t",  Edweird   Dec-06-11 09:09 AM   #106 
     - Believe this, then...  SidDithers   Dec-06-11 10:58 AM   #138 
        - I don't believe the Gallup responders are "Liberal Democrats".  Edweird   Dec-06-11 04:10 PM   #186 
  - What do you mean when you say "2010"? n/t  LoZoccolo   Dec-06-11 11:15 AM   #149 
     - There was an election in 2010.  Edweird   Dec-06-11 04:11 PM   #187 
        - So DUers are more in line with knowing that there was an election in 2010?  LoZoccolo   Dec-06-11 04:44 PM   #190 
           - I have no idea what you're talking about.  Edweird   Dec-06-11 05:15 PM   #196 
           - Don't worry; Number23 explained it to me. n/t  LoZoccolo   Dec-06-11 05:18 PM   #199 
              - I am not a number, I am a free man!  Edweird   Dec-06-11 05:20 PM   #200 
           - That poster is saying that because Dems lost in 2010 that somehow, that means  Number23   Dec-06-11 05:16 PM   #197 
              - I guess this is what I'll assume unless he wants to come along and correct it.  LoZoccolo   Dec-06-11 05:17 PM   #198 
  - sure it is  reggie the dog   Dec-06-11 10:15 AM   #125 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-06-11 11:27 AM   #155 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-06-11 03:29 PM   #180 
  - democrats so far to the right  unionworks   Dec-06-11 07:08 AM   #77 
  - The OP is about the regular polling that evidently 80+% of "liberal Democrats" support Obama..  Fumesucker   Dec-06-11 07:17 AM   #81 
  - +1  Scuba   Dec-06-11 09:41 AM   #113 
  - couple reasons  dionysus   Dec-06-11 08:01 AM   #84 
  - that plus the trolls  Motown_Johnny   Dec-06-11 08:10 AM   #85 
     - there is that, too! but it's hard to tell how much because sometimes you can't tell who is who...  dionysus   Dec-06-11 08:14 AM   #86 
        - agreed, but it still helps keep us below that 81%  Motown_Johnny   Dec-06-11 08:15 AM   #87 
           - right. there's trolls causing trouble, plus people who are legitimately to the left of dems. we've  dionysus   Dec-06-11 08:18 AM   #88 
  - DU is just as susceptible to Corporate Media/Right Wing lies and misinformation.  Liberal_Stalwart71   Dec-06-11 08:20 AM   #89 
  - I thought we'd been asked explicitly to stop questioning the motives  EFerrari   Dec-06-11 08:51 AM   #97 
  - Then, stop questioning the motives of others who may be disappointed in Obama  Liberal_Stalwart71   Dec-06-11 10:33 AM   #129 
     - Your answer is a non sequitur.  EFerrari   Dec-06-11 11:02 AM   #143 
  - Please point me to a right-wing propaganda outlet that says  Doctor_J   Dec-06-11 10:09 AM   #120 
     - "You people?" Who the fuck you talking to?  Liberal_Stalwart71   Dec-06-11 10:32 AM   #128 
     - You ducked my question  Doctor_J   Dec-06-11 11:35 AM   #157 
     - LOL @ "Watch your mouth while you're at it."  Edweird   Dec-06-11 10:12 PM   #212 
     - I must agree. nt  Enthusiast   Dec-06-11 04:17 PM   #189 
  - I think some identify themselves as "liberals" when they wouldn't fit most  Doctor_J   Dec-06-11 08:43 AM   #94 
  - Most of those have an "Obama 2012" logo of one sort or another.  Occulus   Dec-06-11 09:17 AM   #107 
  - I voted for him in 2008, and will vote for him next year  Doctor_J   Dec-06-11 09:51 AM   #114 
  - I have to pinch myself sometimes --  Hell Hath No Fury   Dec-06-11 10:24 AM   #127 
  - Precisely... nt  Blasphemer   Dec-06-11 12:32 PM   #166 
  - Because those self-identifying as "liberals"  LWolf   Dec-06-11 08:49 AM   #96 
  - Ain't that the truth.  woo me with science   Dec-06-11 08:56 AM   #104 
  - 15 years ago those same people you're speaking of would have been called Republicans.  Occulus   Dec-06-11 09:18 AM   #109 
     - Yep.  LWolf   Dec-06-11 03:28 PM   #179 
     - Mission Accomplished  raouldukelives   Dec-06-11 10:42 PM   #214 
  - Oh this one is easy, 15-20% of those here are trolls, I could call out 20 handles  snooper2   Dec-06-11 08:52 AM   #98 
  - +1...nt  SidDithers   Dec-06-11 08:55 AM   #101 
  - DU is not representative.  JNelson6563   Dec-06-11 08:55 AM   #102 
  - Gallup allows responders to self-idenitfy as 'liberal' and I'll bet  coalition_unwilling   Dec-06-11 08:56 AM   #103 
  - Saw a poll here...  Whiskeytide   Dec-06-11 09:09 AM   #105 
  - I always wonder why people bother to criticize DU....  djean111   Dec-06-11 09:17 AM   #108 
  - Because that number is complete bullshit...  truebrit71   Dec-06-11 09:20 AM   #110 
  - It really depends on how the question is phrased  Lydia Leftcoast   Dec-06-11 10:11 AM   #123 
  - A significant portion of DU actively disparages Obama 24/7  tridim   Dec-06-11 10:11 AM   #124 
  - Because when it's asked here...  Orsino   Dec-06-11 10:20 AM   #126 
  - Wrong...  SidDithers   Dec-06-11 10:57 AM   #137 
     - Not wrong.  Orsino   Dec-06-11 01:28 PM   #169 
  - because a lot of people on the left are not 'democrats' and many of them are on DU  WI_DEM   Dec-06-11 10:36 AM   #130 
  - Well, because we're just an irrelevant fringe group, of course.  Marr   Dec-06-11 10:53 AM   #134 
  - DU posters not a large enough sample  treestar   Dec-06-11 10:54 AM   #135 
  - When he does things we disagree with we are more likely to "disapprove"...  Fearless   Dec-06-11 11:00 AM   #140 
  - All you need to know is in this thread  dmallind   Dec-06-11 11:01 AM   #141 
  - The last sentence in the OP is correct.  former9thward   Dec-06-11 11:03 AM   #144 
  - Many?  Scuba   Dec-06-11 11:09 AM   #147 
  - Yes if various DU polls on the subject are to be believed.  former9thward   Dec-06-11 11:13 AM   #148 
  - They also identify themselves as vegetarians, Christians, Centrists, Anarchists, and pacifists.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Dec-06-11 11:19 AM   #150 
  - Two of the those categories are not political.  former9thward   Dec-06-11 11:23 AM   #153 
     - Which doesn't prevent them from being Democrats.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Dec-06-11 11:36 AM   #158 
        - Totally correct  former9thward   Dec-06-11 12:22 PM   #164 
        - That saying is fucking moronic and off-putting.  Youth Uprising   Dec-07-11 04:43 PM   #226 
  - LOL  EFerrari   Dec-06-11 05:22 PM   #202 
  - Because DU has jumped the shark and become just as anti  sufrommich   Dec-06-11 11:43 AM   #159 
  - Disagree...  SomethingFishy   Dec-06-11 01:13 PM   #168 
  - "well I'm not sure what DU is left with , but it's not reflective of democrats at all."  Number23   Dec-06-11 05:30 PM   #204 
  - One must define what a liberal Democrat believes to give a thoughtful answer.  TheKentuckian   Dec-06-11 02:10 PM   #172 
  - In ANY Public Poll, I ALWAYS give Obama the highest marks possible.  bvar22   Dec-06-11 03:15 PM   #177 
  - ^ Same here ^  Mimosa   Dec-08-11 10:38 AM   #232 
  - Before I read any comments, this is my explanation.  Enthusiast   Dec-06-11 03:42 PM   #181 
  - After reading other responses, I think yours has a lot of truth to it. nt  Bonobo   Dec-07-11 12:49 AM   #220 
  - Good question  creon   Dec-06-11 04:47 PM   #191 
  - Perhaps because in the scheme of things, DU is a very small fish and a very big liberal pond? n/t  AngryOldDem   Dec-06-11 05:21 PM   #201 
  - Obama's "popularity" is inverse to poll responders' knowledge:  blkmusclmachine   Dec-06-11 10:30 PM   #213 
  - Ecause we pay more attention to te details!!!  Logical   Dec-06-11 10:45 PM   #215 
  - DU is its own little world  cherish44   Dec-06-11 10:49 PM   #216 
  - Question about polls. Maybe someone here knows:  Vanje   Dec-06-11 10:58 PM   #217 
  - because it is absolute bullshit  Skittles   Dec-07-11 12:11 AM   #219 
  - It is reflected here, most polls on support 75%/25% in his favor which is close to Gallup.  AtomicKitten   Dec-07-11 05:50 PM   #228 
  - Minorities can be very loud.  savalez   Dec-08-11 11:04 AM   #233 
 

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