| 243. In 1986-87 when DAT machines showed up |
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it was amazing how quickly 1/4" disappeared from mixing rooms. A few years went by, and people decided they were willing to put up with a little noise and less clarity for the warmth imparted by tape.
Part of the backlash against digital was due to producers recording mixes at 48k to play for record company suits, but after the conversion to 44.1 clarity would go out the window. Part of it was due to vet mastering engineers mastering bass-shy out of habit from working with vinyl. You can hear it easily by comparing CD and vinyl versions of albums from the late 80s and early 90s. They gradually caught on and started tweaking with EQ but it was never quite...the same.
The 1990s was when mixing on 1/2" really came into style. The machines require babying, aligning, constant cleaning, and good reels of tape are hard to find - but the result is worth it.
Good luck, I hope you can find one. I'm mixing to hard drive now but I have some classic tube gear and mics from the 60s which (sort of) makes up for it.
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| -How does vinyl deliver an experience superior to digital? |
KurtNYC |
Dec-05-11 09:43 AM |
#0 |
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Vinyl is analog, |
MadHound |
Dec-05-11 09:45 AM |
#1 |
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You got it! |
dballance |
Dec-05-11 10:15 AM |
#10 |
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Not true, you are digital. |
originalpckelly |
Dec-05-11 11:00 AM |
#23 |
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You don't know the definition of digital |
MadHound |
Dec-05-11 11:06 AM |
#29 |
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Analog does not imply that, it implies that an analog of a waveform is being stored and played. |
originalpckelly |
Dec-05-11 11:16 AM |
#32 |
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If the ear mechanism were a digital system as you claim |
MadHound |
Dec-05-11 11:20 AM |
#35 |
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No, they don't. |
originalpckelly |
Dec-05-11 11:24 AM |
#38 |
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Well thank you for linking to a source that backs me up |
MadHound |
Dec-05-11 11:36 AM |
#48 |
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You are getting that wrong a bit...nerve cells, in fact, do fire all or nothing... |
yawnmaster |
Dec-05-11 08:21 PM |
#113 |
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Wow. You've got a LOT better speakers than I can afford. |
saras |
Dec-06-11 01:55 PM |
#174 |
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Do you mind defining your terms? Nothing a M-w.com, for example, corresponds |
Romulox |
Dec-05-11 11:25 AM |
#40 |
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You can indeed have a digital system that is not binary. |
originalpckelly |
Dec-05-11 11:30 AM |
#42 |
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That's not a definition. If you are using the word idiosyncratically, please define your terms! nt |
Romulox |
Dec-05-11 12:19 PM |
#57 |
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Unless you've invented a multiphase transistor |
wtmusic |
Dec-05-11 11:55 PM |
#139 |
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Actually, someone DID invent an analog computer. I read about it in Scientific American. |
Leopolds Ghost |
Feb-19-12 05:07 PM |
#254 |
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NOT human ears. we are clearly analog listeners. |
ChairmanAgnostic |
Dec-05-11 11:24 AM |
#37 |
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Sound is "Sounds Waves" - Analog |
dballance |
Dec-05-11 02:22 PM |
#73 |
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eardrums do vibrate "continuously" but the "hairs" that are triggered by different... |
yawnmaster |
Dec-05-11 08:26 PM |
#115 |
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Not quite that simple |
wtmusic |
Dec-05-11 11:32 PM |
#133 |
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They all converge on a nerve cell and that cell still does an all or nothing fire... |
yawnmaster |
Dec-06-11 05:52 PM |
#183 |
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The wave is analog but the brain converts it to digital.. |
SkyDaddy7 |
Dec-06-11 09:45 AM |
#162 |
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Yep, perfect. |
cliffordu |
Dec-05-11 11:36 AM |
#47 |
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I love it for "all of the above." (Except the "it doesn't" entry.) |
Brickbat |
Dec-05-11 09:46 AM |
#2 |
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Other. |
MineralMan |
Dec-05-11 09:48 AM |
#3 |
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Other: The artwork |
LynneSin |
Dec-05-11 09:50 AM |
#4 |
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CD > LP > iTunes |
tridim |
Dec-05-11 09:54 AM |
#5 |
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FLAC>SACD>CD |
Jello Biafra |
Dec-05-11 10:30 AM |
#17 |
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I would agree with that but |
OriginalGeek |
Dec-05-11 12:07 PM |
#52 |
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Digital recordings |
guitar man |
Dec-05-11 07:59 PM |
#108 |
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The Beatles FLAC recordings I referred to are 24-bit |
Jello Biafra |
Dec-05-11 10:14 PM |
#125 |
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As far as I know I have no experience |
OriginalGeek |
Dec-06-11 12:52 PM |
#170 |
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AJA is a sonic masterpiece |
guitar man |
Dec-05-11 07:50 PM |
#106 |
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Other: My much larger collection of vinyl. n/t |
Scuba |
Dec-05-11 09:57 AM |
#6 |
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you have to experience it for yourself, a decent needle and |
Demonaut |
Dec-05-11 09:59 AM |
#7 |
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Vinyl is only good under rare circumstances |
lbrtbell |
Dec-05-11 10:07 AM |
#8 |
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For a person with perfect pitch, you really messed up, |
MadHound |
Dec-05-11 10:12 AM |
#9 |
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I totally agree with Madhound. |
OriginalGeek |
Dec-05-11 10:24 AM |
#15 |
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me too. Love the needle drop. |
KurtNYC |
Dec-05-11 10:58 AM |
#22 |
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lol I like it so much |
OriginalGeek |
Dec-05-11 11:50 AM |
#51 |
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Yeah, and after you've had the medium for a little while... |
originalpckelly |
Dec-05-11 11:05 AM |
#28 |
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Well, I'm sorry you don't know how to care for vinyl, |
MadHound |
Dec-05-11 11:13 AM |
#30 |
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Actual research has been done that cannot find a difference between the two. |
originalpckelly |
Dec-05-11 11:21 AM |
#36 |
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Really? |
MadHound |
Dec-05-11 11:30 AM |
#43 |
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The question is whether or not it can actually be picked up by the listener. |
originalpckelly |
Dec-05-11 11:36 AM |
#49 |
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Well, given the bounceback that analog audio is making, |
MadHound |
Dec-05-11 11:44 AM |
#50 |
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I've seen this same story every year for a decade |
snooper2 |
Dec-07-11 09:04 AM |
#202 |
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Very Very Few People |
ProfessorGAC |
Dec-05-11 01:55 PM |
#69 |
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Aliasing noises extend quite a bit below the "half sampling rate" threshhold |
wtmusic |
Dec-06-11 12:40 AM |
#143 |
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I can hear 21kHz., it actually drives me nuts! |
Odin2005 |
Dec-06-11 08:14 PM |
#188 |
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How do you know? nt |
wtmusic |
Dec-07-11 12:23 AM |
#197 |
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That "mosquito ring tone" website. |
Odin2005 |
Dec-07-11 07:19 AM |
#199 |
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Were you listening on your computer speakers? nt |
wtmusic |
Dec-07-11 04:10 PM |
#212 |
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yes. |
Odin2005 |
Dec-07-11 06:47 PM |
#219 |
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I've not lost most of my high-pitched hearing. |
Leopolds Ghost |
Feb-19-12 09:01 PM |
#255 |
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Asshat audio engineers put that hiss INTO Cds to try to make it sound like vinyl |
Cronus Protagonist |
Dec-05-11 04:15 PM |
#80 |
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Actually it isn't, and it is demonstrably not |
MadHound |
Dec-05-11 04:47 PM |
#86 |
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So you don't hear rumble, wow, dust hits, static, blunt needles, worn plastic and flutter on vinyl? |
Cronus Protagonist |
Dec-05-11 05:05 PM |
#88 |
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Not if you've got good equipment and take care of your vinyl |
MadHound |
Dec-05-11 06:26 PM |
#95 |
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I've worn out about ten Dark Side of the Moon Vinyls |
Cronus Protagonist |
Dec-05-11 06:37 PM |
#96 |
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Obviously your gear wasn't all that high level, |
MadHound |
Dec-05-11 06:52 PM |
#99 |
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Thank you. Sometimes better really is better. |
mistertrickster |
Dec-05-11 10:48 PM |
#127 |
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I built my own amp back in the day |
Cronus Protagonist |
Dec-06-11 12:31 AM |
#141 |
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Yup, brings back memories. My turntable had a strobe too. |
mistertrickster |
Dec-06-11 08:10 AM |
#153 |
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Agree that high end digital is better, but... |
wtmusic |
Dec-05-11 11:48 PM |
#137 |
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That square wave off the trombone will be reproduced better by digital, but I agree with the rest |
Cronus Protagonist |
Dec-06-11 12:36 AM |
#142 |
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FFF trombones, Hendrix's strat through Marshall cabinets |
wtmusic |
Dec-06-11 12:50 AM |
#145 |
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Lots of bad info in this post. Example: "Make a wav vile (sic) from vinyl..." |
Romulox |
Dec-05-11 10:17 AM |
#12 |
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You can buy a record player that plugs into your computer. |
backscatter712 |
Dec-05-11 10:35 AM |
#18 |
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I know. But the Analog to Digital converters have a HUGE impact on the quality of sound you get. |
Romulox |
Dec-05-11 10:55 AM |
#19 |
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Apogee? |
BrendaBrick |
Dec-05-11 06:47 PM |
#98 |
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Oops. |
BrendaBrick |
Dec-05-11 08:08 PM |
#109 |
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I still have a pair of Apogee Duetta Signature speakers in storage |
hifiguy |
Dec-06-11 04:43 PM |
#181 |
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Sweet! |
guitar man |
Dec-05-11 08:16 PM |
#111 |
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I remember the argument that cd's were so tough that you could clean them in a dishwasher |
Demonaut |
Dec-05-11 10:22 AM |
#14 |
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I think people said that because there is a lot of error correction built into Cd's. |
originalpckelly |
Dec-05-11 11:35 AM |
#46 |
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Wow |
Occulus |
Dec-05-11 11:18 AM |
#34 |
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Oh That's So CUTE! |
NashVegas |
Dec-05-11 12:24 PM |
#58 |
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More importantly - you need good ears to make it sound good. |
wtmusic |
Dec-05-11 11:18 PM |
#131 |
| -
What does "perfect pitch" have to do |
Le Taz Hot |
Dec-06-11 09:24 AM |
#158 |
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A non-technical reply |
SOS |
Dec-05-11 10:15 AM |
#11 |
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Children of Boomers discovered vinyls a few years ago and seem to like them as much |
in_cog_ni_to |
Dec-05-11 10:20 AM |
#13 |
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Thankfully 8-tracks have gone the way of the dodo |
wtmusic |
Dec-06-11 10:18 AM |
#163 |
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Other - more authentic. The imperfections are closer to "live". ALSO... |
HopeHoops |
Dec-05-11 10:29 AM |
#16 |
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Strawberry Fields |
unionworks |
Dec-05-11 10:55 AM |
#20 |
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I have both |
yesphan |
Dec-05-11 10:57 AM |
#21 |
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mmm, khorns. |
uncle ray |
Dec-06-11 01:33 AM |
#148 |
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Here's a link to the k horn upgrades |
yesphan |
Dec-06-11 07:38 AM |
#151 |
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Another Klipsch user here: Chorus II w/ Crites titanium tweeters. |
Romulox |
Dec-06-11 12:47 PM |
#169 |
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Modern equipment stinks. My Technics SL1200 (1972) and Kenwood 9100 (1977) are works of art. |
Romulox |
Dec-05-11 11:00 AM |
#24 |
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Beautiful! I am thinking about restoring an old Pioneer PL-550 turntable that is beautiful |
BoWanZi |
Dec-05-11 11:33 AM |
#45 |
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That Pioneer is a beaut! |
Romulox |
Dec-05-11 12:18 PM |
#56 |
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Thanks, only dilemma is that I also have a somewhat more modern Technics direct drive as well |
BoWanZi |
Dec-05-11 01:18 PM |
#65 |
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The following may or may not interest you |
Romulox |
Dec-07-11 01:31 PM |
#207 |
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EchoWars is da man. |
B3Nut |
Dec-08-11 09:24 PM |
#236 |
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Bought my husband the Technics MK5G1200's seven years ago.. |
lildreamer316 |
Dec-05-11 04:33 PM |
#84 |
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Can't believe the mighty "Wheels of Steel" are discontinued. |
Romulox |
Dec-06-11 12:38 PM |
#166 |
| -
I have an old pioneer (1980) receiver that is far superior to anything you can get today. |
lumberjack_jeff |
Dec-06-11 09:41 AM |
#160 |
| -
There's talk among vintage gear lovers--everything seems to have changed around 1981ish... |
Romulox |
Dec-06-11 12:41 PM |
#167 |
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Ronald Reagan. n/t |
lumberjack_jeff |
Dec-06-11 01:30 PM |
#171 |
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Here's mine |
lumberjack_jeff |
Dec-06-11 01:46 PM |
#172 |
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Since we are showing off our "stuff" |
snooper2 |
Dec-07-11 09:34 AM |
#203 |
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I put a Nakamichi CD-400 deck in an older car recently, to maintain a close to stock appearance |
Romulox |
Dec-07-11 01:35 PM |
#210 |
| -
I remember SAE! |
hifiguy |
Dec-07-11 04:43 PM |
#217 |
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Very nice piece. Thanks for sharing the photo! nt |
Romulox |
Dec-07-11 01:32 PM |
#208 |
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It is very sad, I remember thinking in the late '80s how old and dated '70s era stuff looked |
BoWanZi |
Dec-07-11 11:18 AM |
#206 |
| -
RIAA equalization, vacuum tube amplifiers, and lost engineering arts... |
hunter |
Dec-05-11 11:02 AM |
#25 |
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Nostalgia and nothing more. |
originalpckelly |
Dec-05-11 11:02 AM |
#26 |
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Magic |
AngryAmish |
Dec-05-11 11:04 AM |
#27 |
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SO is an engineer and audiophile |
supernova |
Dec-05-11 11:14 AM |
#31 |
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...and I have to respectfully disagree with you... |
lildreamer316 |
Dec-05-11 04:38 PM |
#85 |
| -
converting analogue-to-digital |
davekriss |
Dec-05-11 11:16 AM |
#33 |
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It has been YEARS since I was doing any of that kind of thing but |
OriginalGeek |
Dec-05-11 12:17 PM |
#55 |
| -
i've been looking into behringer products. |
uncle ray |
Dec-06-11 01:42 AM |
#150 |
| -
Behringer stuff can be utter crap. You can do a lot better for not much money. |
Edweird |
Dec-06-11 09:33 AM |
#159 |
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Personally, I suggest avoiding USB. If you have a desktop get a PCI slot card. |
Edweird |
Dec-06-11 09:41 AM |
#161 |
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It all depends on the mixing and mastering |
thelordofhell |
Dec-05-11 11:24 AM |
#39 |
| -
Exactly. Most of the time it's just the amount of compression used. |
originalpckelly |
Dec-05-11 11:26 AM |
#41 |
| -
I can actually listen to my vinyls. |
madamesilverspurs |
Dec-05-11 11:32 AM |
#44 |
| -
with the right cord, perhaps you could import the LPs to your computer |
KurtNYC |
Dec-05-11 03:59 PM |
#79 |
| -
Digital to Vinyl |
FreeJoe |
Dec-05-11 12:13 PM |
#53 |
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Vinyl and cassette don't clip the peaks off of the sound waves. Engineers have mostly compensated |
Erose999 |
Dec-05-11 12:16 PM |
#54 |
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Neither does digital |
guitar man |
Dec-06-11 04:38 PM |
#180 |
| -
No, but with digital it involves gain-riding or |
hifiguy |
Dec-07-11 04:40 PM |
#216 |
| -
There's no reason to get anywhere near digital clipping |
guitar man |
Dec-07-11 06:04 PM |
#218 |
| -
pioneer sliver |
simmonsj811 |
Dec-05-11 12:29 PM |
#59 |
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The pics on that site are just awesome |
tridim |
Dec-05-11 01:13 PM |
#64 |
| -
Yeah i couldn't afford |
simmonsj811 |
Dec-05-11 02:59 PM |
#74 |
| -
MP3's are the McDonalds of audio |
OwnedByFerrets |
Dec-05-11 12:33 PM |
#60 |
| -
And why that format is "good enough" for those with ipods. |
kentauros |
Dec-06-11 09:09 PM |
#192 |
| -
Funny You Should Post This |
NashVegas |
Dec-05-11 12:34 PM |
#61 |
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It's not. |
taught_me_patience |
Dec-05-11 12:38 PM |
#62 |
| -
when buying vinyl, i had to return about a third of the discs....skipped, popped |
spanone |
Dec-05-11 12:40 PM |
#63 |
| -
Back in 'The Day' |
OxQQme |
Dec-05-11 01:39 PM |
#66 |
| -
Raised on vinyl... |
JuniperLea |
Dec-05-11 01:46 PM |
#67 |
| -
Sales of CDs are down because the digital is easily pirated. |
JVS |
Dec-05-11 01:50 PM |
#68 |
| -
Bootlegs |
NashVegas |
Dec-05-11 05:51 PM |
#91 |
| -
Shitty deals on music spawned a generation that won't pay for it. |
JVS |
Dec-05-11 05:56 PM |
#93 |
| -
My hearing's all shot to hell from loud guitar amps, |
OnyxCollie |
Dec-05-11 02:04 PM |
#70 |
| -
Album Art and pimply teens playing DJ at the prom's sound-mixer |
LanternWaste |
Dec-05-11 02:13 PM |
#71 |
| -
I like CDs better than MP3s. Don't like compression. |
Manifestor_of_Light |
Dec-05-11 02:19 PM |
#72 |
| -
then you'll like vinyl more |
Demonaut |
Dec-05-11 03:01 PM |
#75 |
| -
One major difference |
thucythucy |
Dec-05-11 03:09 PM |
#76 |
| -
+1. |
wtmusic |
Dec-06-11 09:17 AM |
#156 |
| -
The argument I've heard is that Digital cuts off the high and low ends of the spectrum |
Taverner |
Dec-05-11 03:30 PM |
#77 |
| -
You mention high bitrate digital audio files |
BrendaBrick |
Dec-05-11 07:27 PM |
#101 |
| -
On iTunes I chose for it to show bitrate |
Taverner |
Dec-05-11 07:41 PM |
#104 |
| -
Hmmm. |
BrendaBrick |
Dec-05-11 07:46 PM |
#105 |
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You have control of the quality of file you create when you import into Itunes. |
Romulox |
Dec-06-11 12:35 PM |
#164 |
| -
You might also like the player "JetAudio". |
kentauros |
Dec-06-11 09:21 PM |
#193 |
| -
Digital actually presents low end more accurately. |
wtmusic |
Dec-06-11 12:11 AM |
#140 |
| -
You can't surf on a staircase -- A wave is not a series of individual values |
KurtNYC |
Dec-05-11 03:56 PM |
#78 |
| -
that depends on the size of the PCM. though, doesn't it? |
Warren DeMontague |
Dec-05-11 04:18 PM |
#81 |
| -
And what about sample rate and DACs? |
darkstar3 |
Dec-05-11 08:11 PM |
#110 |
| -
Bit depth is where it's at with pcm digital |
guitar man |
Dec-05-11 08:47 PM |
#118 |
| -
FLAC audio files are actually quite good, but can be 50-100 MB per song. |
phleshdef |
Dec-05-11 04:22 PM |
#82 |
| -
And you can get a 1Tb drive now for under $100. |
kentauros |
Dec-06-11 09:26 PM |
#194 |
| -
Analog was that 4th gen copy of the Dead at the Frost you copied from your roommate |
Warren DeMontague |
Dec-05-11 04:22 PM |
#83 |
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better sound, perhaps--experience not so much |
fishwax |
Dec-05-11 04:50 PM |
#87 |
| -
Here. |
kentauros |
Dec-06-11 09:30 PM |
#195 |
| -
My ears are too roached to tell the difference. |
Kurmudgeon |
Dec-05-11 05:41 PM |
#89 |
| -
Vinyl provides a good nostalgic experience for us "oldies" |
etherealtruth |
Dec-05-11 05:49 PM |
#90 |
| -
overtones and harmonics |
madokie |
Dec-05-11 05:54 PM |
#92 |
| -
I have a vinyl-to-digital setup, and I've wondered.. |
stuntcat |
Dec-05-11 06:11 PM |
#94 |
| -
Of course it will never be the same |
guitar man |
Dec-05-11 09:07 PM |
#121 |
| -
First, to address the poll question: |
BrendaBrick |
Dec-05-11 06:42 PM |
#97 |
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I am big. It's the pictures that got small. |
dimbear |
Dec-05-11 06:57 PM |
#100 |
| -
It depends |
guitar man |
Dec-05-11 07:39 PM |
#102 |
| -
Funny that you use the term: "Great Performance" |
BrendaBrick |
Dec-05-11 07:57 PM |
#107 |
| -
exactly |
guitar man |
Dec-05-11 08:20 PM |
#112 |
| -
Yep. |
BrendaBrick |
Dec-05-11 08:47 PM |
#119 |
| -
Yes |
guitar man |
Dec-05-11 09:14 PM |
#122 |
| -
Like so many other things, there's a curve involved. |
darkstar3 |
Dec-05-11 07:39 PM |
#103 |
| -
As a Musician with PP I want to add my 3 sense. |
BlueJazz |
Dec-05-11 08:26 PM |
#114 |
| -
Yep |
guitar man |
Dec-05-11 08:40 PM |
#117 |
| -
Very Nice!.....Very Cool! |
BlueJazz |
Dec-05-11 10:01 PM |
#124 |
| -
Thanks |
guitar man |
Dec-06-11 01:41 AM |
#149 |
| -
FWIW.. |
sendero |
Dec-05-11 08:27 PM |
#116 |
| -
old tech is neither |
guitar man |
Dec-05-11 08:54 PM |
#120 |
| -
I have nothing against vinyl.. |
sendero |
Dec-06-11 05:27 PM |
#182 |
| -
Well performed music |
guitar man |
Dec-06-11 07:43 PM |
#185 |
| -
+1 Agreed. nt |
mistertrickster |
Dec-05-11 11:07 PM |
#128 |
| -
I converted my vinyl music collection to digital |
Generic Brad |
Dec-05-11 09:18 PM |
#123 |
| -
Vinyl sucks. |
mistertrickster |
Dec-05-11 10:36 PM |
#126 |
| -
You really have no idea what you're talking about |
wtmusic |
Dec-05-11 11:14 PM |
#129 |
| -
The poster is correct, the love of vinyl is all in their minds for a time long gone! |
Logical |
Dec-05-11 11:35 PM |
#134 |
| -
Ah, another connoissieur of sow's ears. |
wtmusic |
Dec-05-11 11:39 PM |
#135 |
| -
Okay, let me get this straight... |
jmowreader |
Dec-05-11 11:14 PM |
#130 |
| -
All the "stairsteps" do go away, to some extent |
wtmusic |
Dec-05-11 11:21 PM |
#132 |
| -
In reality |
guitar man |
Dec-06-11 12:41 AM |
#144 |
| -
Or vice versa |
wtmusic |
Dec-06-11 12:59 AM |
#146 |
| -
damn I'm jealous |
guitar man |
Dec-06-11 01:16 AM |
#147 |
| -
I have both, and this one sounds way better. |
trackfan |
Dec-05-11 11:41 PM |
#136 |
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Many superiorities, some distinct weaknesses |
saras |
Dec-05-11 11:49 PM |
#138 |
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Vinyl sounds more like real life to me. |
Lyric |
Dec-06-11 07:51 AM |
#152 |
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Check this out. |
wtmusic |
Dec-06-11 09:08 AM |
#154 |
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It only works if you have special hipster ears |
Lance_Boyle |
Dec-06-11 09:11 AM |
#155 |
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No, it just takes listening to a considerable amount of music. |
wtmusic |
Dec-06-11 09:24 AM |
#157 |
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Not everything is a competition, dude. Some of us just like music. nt |
Romulox |
Dec-06-11 12:36 PM |
#165 |
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One can't discover back-masking on digital... |
T S Justly |
Dec-06-11 12:41 PM |
#168 |
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sure ya can |
OriginalGeek |
Dec-06-11 01:51 PM |
#173 |
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You can even do it in Windows Sound Recorder (or whatever the Windows 7 equivalent is) |
saras |
Dec-06-11 02:02 PM |
#175 |
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In sophisticated audio circles, in which I have run for many years, |
hifiguy |
Dec-06-11 02:02 PM |
#176 |
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Omg, Frank Barone was right about his records! |
EFerrari |
Dec-06-11 02:06 PM |
#177 |
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Open-reel tape? You mean the stuff that starts shedding oxide in as little as 10 years? |
wtmusic |
Dec-06-11 07:44 PM |
#186 |
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Umm, pro-grade tapes do not begin shedding oxide in 10 years. |
hifiguy |
Dec-07-11 08:53 AM |
#200 |
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Umm, do you work at the Library of Congress? |
wtmusic |
Dec-07-11 03:56 PM |
#211 |
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All I know is that reissues of RCA, EMI, Decca/London and Mercury |
hifiguy |
Dec-07-11 04:37 PM |
#215 |
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That Cole/Shearing tape you heard was a third generation copy |
wtmusic |
Dec-08-11 10:13 AM |
#231 |
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It isn't a question of snobbery. |
hifiguy |
Dec-08-11 11:35 AM |
#233 |
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Of course you don't consider A/B tests to be valid. |
wtmusic |
Dec-08-11 08:07 PM |
#235 |
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Actually, 1/4" 1/2 track can sound quite good |
guitar man |
Dec-09-11 04:19 PM |
#237 |
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You are so right. |
hifiguy |
Dec-09-11 04:41 PM |
#238 |
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There are some nice decks there |
guitar man |
Dec-09-11 07:09 PM |
#239 |
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Yes it can - at 30ips. |
wtmusic |
Dec-09-11 07:49 PM |
#240 |
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Ah, if the reels have sides |
guitar man |
Dec-09-11 09:50 PM |
#242 |
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In 1986-87 when DAT machines showed up |
wtmusic |
Dec-10-11 04:27 PM |
#243 |
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I've still got my dat |
guitar man |
Dec-10-11 06:18 PM |
#248 |
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More advantages of vinyl... |
saras |
Dec-06-11 02:11 PM |
#178 |
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Other: Taste |
TheKentuckian |
Dec-06-11 02:14 PM |
#179 |
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Vinyl definitely tastes better than the cheap plastic CDs... |
yawnmaster |
Dec-06-11 05:54 PM |
#184 |
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Ya gotta boil em with about an ounce of vinegar, salt to taste, and a lil crushed red pepper |
TheKentuckian |
Dec-07-11 10:38 AM |
#204 |
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yeah, do that if you want to destroy all the vitamins in them. eom |
yawnmaster |
Dec-07-11 07:48 PM |
#222 |
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Vinyl was way better for classical and jazz. |
Mimosa |
Dec-06-11 07:46 PM |
#187 |
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Usually I can't tell the difference except for one thing. |
Quartermass |
Dec-06-11 08:18 PM |
#189 |
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Vinyl sucks, it is hissy and wears out quicky. |
Odin2005 |
Dec-06-11 08:27 PM |
#190 |
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What does "chop up the harmonics" mean? |
Canuckistanian |
Dec-06-11 08:33 PM |
#191 |
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Beats me |
guitar man |
Dec-06-11 09:50 PM |
#196 |
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Digital recording systems use sampled points to |
hifiguy |
Dec-07-11 11:09 AM |
#205 |
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We know that... |
jmowreader |
Dec-07-11 10:12 PM |
#226 |
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No, you cannot *ever* capture the original with a reproduction. Ever. |
boppers |
Dec-10-11 06:39 PM |
#249 |
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Did some blind testing tonight, inspired by this thread |
guitar man |
Dec-07-11 02:21 AM |
#198 |
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thanks for sharing |
KurtNYC |
Dec-07-11 08:56 AM |
#201 |
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Cool |
guitar man |
Dec-07-11 04:28 PM |
#214 |
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A very 'musical' evaluation. |
wtmusic |
Dec-07-11 04:17 PM |
#213 |
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I like morals to a story... |
BrendaBrick |
Dec-07-11 07:40 PM |
#220 |
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Thanks :) |
guitar man |
Dec-07-11 08:59 PM |
#224 |
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"Adapt or die |
BrendaBrick |
Dec-07-11 09:21 PM |
#225 |
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I remember well |
guitar man |
Dec-07-11 11:21 PM |
#228 |
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Well hey - if it works, it works. |
BrendaBrick |
Dec-07-11 11:54 PM |
#229 |
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There's something to be said for "live in the studio" |
guitar man |
Dec-08-11 12:26 AM |
#230 |
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Little late in responding and who knows if you'll even see this... |
BrendaBrick |
Dec-12-11 04:48 PM |
#252 |
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If you're in your 20's maybe it sounds better |
DainBramaged |
Dec-07-11 01:33 PM |
#209 |
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It's just more catharsis for people who don't want to let go of the past. |
FLAprogressive |
Dec-07-11 07:43 PM |
#221 |
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Ease of digital recording and portability make it possible for millions more to produce good music. |
Hoyt |
Dec-07-11 07:53 PM |
#223 |
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Sound snobs. All. |
Zanzoobar |
Dec-07-11 10:14 PM |
#227 |
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Check out this homemade disc-cutting lathe using a NAIL |
wtmusic |
Dec-08-11 11:17 AM |
#232 |
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Wow, I'm impressed |
guitar man |
Dec-08-11 03:04 PM |
#234 |
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You're all fucking stupid. Please shut up. The music is starting... |
Throd |
Dec-09-11 07:58 PM |
#241 |
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I can't hear the music, your whiny-ass complaining is too loud. |
wtmusic |
Dec-10-11 04:51 PM |
#246 |
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Well, that's good to know all my records won't be completely |
hyphenate |
Dec-10-11 04:34 PM |
#244 |
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Agreed. |
BrendaBrick |
Dec-12-11 04:58 PM |
#253 |
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I know it's sacrilege... |
CJCRANE |
Dec-10-11 04:49 PM |
#245 |
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Other: I just like that I can buy records at Salvation Army for a buck. |
harun |
Dec-10-11 04:53 PM |
#247 |
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Two words: Loudness wars |
killbotfactory |
Dec-10-11 08:06 PM |
#250 |
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If you want good quality compressed audio, I suggest ogg vorbis |
LTR |
Dec-11-11 08:57 AM |
#251 |
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