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14. Wait, do we need to tiptoe around Santa believers now too?
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  -New York Teacher Tells Students Santa Claus Isn't Real The Straight Story  Dec-04-11 12:22 AM   #0 
  - hahahahaha hahaha hahahah hahahaha hahaha, nt  limpyhobbler   Dec-04-11 12:24 AM   #1 
  - +100 ha ha ha  Liberal_in_LA   Dec-04-11 04:06 PM   #102 
  - Santa Claus is no less real than the viability of supply-side economics  Orrex   Dec-04-11 12:29 AM   #2 
  - My second grade teacher told us that SC is a spirit. n/t  roody   Dec-04-11 12:32 AM   #3 
  - Imagine the shitfit if he'd told them the truth about "God"  Warren DeMontague   Dec-04-11 12:33 AM   #4 
  - God = Santa Claus for adults...  backscatter712   Dec-04-11 03:37 AM   #15 
     - more religion intolerance from the religion-phobes  leftyohiolib   Dec-04-11 05:33 AM   #22 
     - Commenting on religion is not 'intolerance'  muriel_volestrangler   Dec-04-11 07:34 AM   #36 
     - God = Santa Claus for adults" is not a "comment" on religion it is passive-aggressive mocking  leftyohiolib   Dec-04-11 02:59 PM   #89 
        - Why? Why is it mocking? Actually, what you're engaged in now is SPECIAL PLEADING.  Warren DeMontague   Dec-04-11 03:45 PM   #99 
        - No, religion is not like sexuality  muriel_volestrangler   Dec-04-11 06:04 PM   #115 
           - If someone claims that being gay gives them magical powers  Warren DeMontague   Dec-04-11 06:52 PM   #125 
     - That's intolerance  _ed_   Dec-04-11 08:01 AM   #40 
     - Yet people mention "Gaia" and "healing beams of light" with zero irony.  Dreamer Tatum   Dec-04-11 10:43 AM   #71 
     - Yeah, they think they sound perfectly rational, just like the Pope does when he tells you that  Warren DeMontague   Dec-04-11 03:42 PM   #98 
     - I have no idea what you are talking about  _ed_   Dec-05-11 10:00 AM   #134 
     - Why should that be 'required?'  RZM   Dec-04-11 12:03 PM   #85 
        - thank-you  leftyohiolib   Dec-04-11 03:14 PM   #95 
        - People freak out about "sky gods" and "sky wizards" because they accurately describe ridiculous  Warren DeMontague   Dec-04-11 03:40 PM   #97 
        - no one is telling you to do anything. not even nod solemnly  leftyohiolib   Dec-04-11 04:04 PM   #101 
        - Ideas like "God" don't get special exemption from the rules of logic and evidence  Warren DeMontague   Dec-04-11 04:42 PM   #103 
        - where did i say any of that. again i.d.c. what your beliefs are  leftyohiolib   Dec-04-11 05:19 PM   #105 
        - 'Santa' is a supernatural being who rewards the good  muriel_volestrangler   Dec-04-11 06:12 PM   #117 
        - No, they don't,  Warren DeMontague   Dec-04-11 06:51 PM   #124 
        - No  _ed_   Dec-05-11 09:58 AM   #133 
        - delete- dupe  loyalsister   Dec-04-11 05:39 PM   #111 
        - Well put. If someone is deluded it is important to assist them, esp. when they hear voices  L. Coyote   Dec-05-11 10:08 AM   #137 
        - No, You Don't  RobinA   Dec-05-11 11:58 AM   #150 
        - That's About Right  RobinA   Dec-05-11 11:54 AM   #149 
        - Well, I guess if you you say...  LanternWaste   Dec-05-11 12:13 PM   #152 
        - Hilarious post  _ed_   Dec-05-11 09:53 AM   #132 
        - BS  _ed_   Dec-05-11 09:51 AM   #131 
           - Don't pretend that you can respect a person without respecting their beliefs  RZM   Dec-05-11 11:41 AM   #148 
     - This atheist believes "God" exists  loyalsister   Dec-04-11 05:47 PM   #112 
     - Look, for the last time, if you want to believe in some fairy afterlife god crap..  snooper2   Dec-05-11 10:25 AM   #142 
     - I've been saying that for years!  queenjane   Dec-05-11 08:57 AM   #130 
     - God is only real if you were taught to be delusional as a child, with crap like Santa Claus  L. Coyote   Dec-05-11 10:03 AM   #136 
  - This teacher is a hero for the movement.  ellisonz   Dec-04-11 12:36 AM   #5 
  - lol!  treestar   Dec-04-11 11:42 AM   #78 
     - It starts earlier and earlier every damn year. I got my instructional  msanthrope   Dec-04-11 05:23 PM   #106 
     - don't kill a tree for Christ's sake  L. Coyote   Dec-05-11 10:11 AM   #138 
  - In other news,  ElboRuum   Dec-04-11 12:46 AM   #6 
  - That's sad if it's true. It's not a teacher's place to tell children that. nt  Liquorice   Dec-04-11 12:47 AM   #7 
  - So the teacher should lie and tell children that santa lives at the north pole?  Tunkamerica   Dec-04-11 01:00 AM   #8 
  - The teacher has no place in that discussion. She shouldn't have said anything. nt  Liquorice   Dec-04-11 01:21 AM   #9 
  - That's it  RZM   Dec-04-11 02:02 AM   #12 
  - according to the article a kid brought it up  Tunkamerica   Dec-04-11 04:39 AM   #17 
     - The teacher should have said "I don't know about that" and moved on  Warren DeMontague   Dec-04-11 05:11 AM   #20 
     - Until what age?  _ed_   Dec-04-11 08:10 AM   #45 
     - So as long as it's fact then it can be taught to children of any age...  Cid_B   Dec-04-11 10:22 AM   #64 
     - Then define at which grade the teacher can presume the kid knows  treestar   Dec-04-11 11:43 AM   #79 
        - There is a reasonableness standard...  Cid_B   Dec-05-11 07:01 AM   #128 
     - she could have said we're not here to talk about santa. hey while she's at it  leftyohiolib   Dec-04-11 03:21 PM   #96 
     - "I don't know about that" would be a lie, I would think  ThomThom   Dec-04-11 09:15 AM   #57 
        - Then just change the damn subject, I suppose.  Warren DeMontague   Dec-04-11 03:46 PM   #100 
     - Then an intelligent teacher would have smiled and shrugged and said, "Let's move on,"  Dreamer Tatum   Dec-04-11 10:51 AM   #76 
     - Why should that matter?  RZM   Dec-04-11 11:56 AM   #83 
        - What if a child said "babies come from storks"?  muriel_volestrangler   Dec-04-11 06:19 PM   #121 
           - if the kid says it in biology class or sex ed, it's relevant.  Warren DeMontague   Dec-04-11 07:15 PM   #127 
  - I agree  XanaDUer   Dec-04-11 08:23 AM   #52 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-04-11 07:16 AM   #27 
  - Reminds me a of a thread about slave transport...  Cid_B   Dec-04-11 07:23 AM   #28 
  - She should have deftly changed the subject. Real teachers do that.  msanthrope   Dec-04-11 07:29 AM   #32 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-04-11 07:33 AM   #35 
  - "Real teachers?"  _ed_   Dec-04-11 08:14 AM   #47 
     - Smug? No, just trained well enough to know that certain subjects  msanthrope   Dec-04-11 10:20 AM   #63 
  - All classes in Nanuet, New York are filled by Christian children  alcibiades_mystery   Dec-04-11 08:16 AM   #48 
  - Wow, you have a severe lack of imagination if you see only one alternative repsonse.  WinkyDink   Dec-04-11 06:16 PM   #118 
  - Teachers are supposed to tell the truth and educate their students  _ed_   Dec-04-11 08:02 AM   #41 
  - Perhaps during a discussion of the great lakes,  hughee99   Dec-04-11 10:42 AM   #70 
  - Do you NOT grasp the age-group involved and their belief system?  WinkyDink   Dec-04-11 06:17 PM   #119 
  - What is it if it's not true?  Iggo   Dec-04-11 03:03 PM   #91 
  - Educators have a responsibility to educate, not to foster delusional thinking  L. Coyote   Dec-05-11 10:13 AM   #139 
  - As reported by a 7 year old  proud2BlibKansan   Dec-04-11 01:25 AM   #10 
  - It is so sad to see so many people on this site that complain about  Angry Dragon   Dec-04-11 01:26 AM   #11 
  - Wait, do we need to tiptoe around Santa believers now too?  LeftyMom   Dec-04-11 03:02 AM   #14 
  - When they are small children, you temper yourself. nt  msanthrope   Dec-04-11 07:31 AM   #33 
  - it is sad when people's beliefs trump facts in an educational setting.  Tunkamerica   Dec-04-11 04:41 AM   #18 
  - It is equally sad when people howl about keeping religion out of schools  Dreamer Tatum   Dec-04-11 10:45 AM   #72 
     - Aren't they the same thing?  muriel_volestrangler   Dec-04-11 05:53 PM   #114 
  - It's understandable that 2nd graders might not be ready for the truth  Warren DeMontague   Dec-04-11 05:10 AM   #19 
  - You are absolutely right.  Skip Intro   Dec-04-11 03:02 PM   #90 
  - blasphemer!!!  Douglas Carpenter   Dec-04-11 02:21 AM   #13 
  - Once kids are old enough to go to school  Quantess   Dec-04-11 03:49 AM   #16 
  - Obviously, you have no children. nt  msanthrope   Dec-04-11 07:33 AM   #34 
  - You're right, I don't.  Quantess   Dec-04-11 08:19 AM   #49 
     - I feel sorry for you. That's terrible. I would have simply let you stay up and carried  msanthrope   Dec-04-11 10:33 AM   #67 
        - I was pretty good at arguing and belaboring points from a young age.  Quantess   Dec-04-11 12:03 PM   #84 
  - Even if you're right (and you're not), kids still go to school for two years before 3rd grade  RZM   Dec-04-11 12:54 PM   #88 
  - Some things need to be left for the parents decision n/t  newfie11   Dec-04-11 05:14 AM   #21 
  - then don't send you kids to public school  blueamy66   Dec-04-11 06:26 AM   #25 
  - in the second grade I doubt it  newfie11   Dec-04-11 07:10 AM   #26 
  - And don't send them out to play with other kids!  treestar   Dec-04-11 11:45 AM   #80 
  - Then home school your children  _ed_   Dec-04-11 08:04 AM   #42 
  - grinch!!  newfie11   Dec-04-11 09:02 AM   #54 
  - and don't let them talk to other children, or watch any secular media, or listen to adults  L. Coyote   Dec-05-11 10:20 AM   #141 
  - Absolutely correct.  Skip Intro   Dec-04-11 03:09 PM   #93 
  - Kids grow up way too fast and are exposed...  a la izquierda   Dec-04-11 06:14 AM   #23 
  - Another kid would probably say something eventually  HockeyMom   Dec-04-11 06:22 AM   #24 
  - I remember in the 3rd grade the whole class laughed at a girl who believed in Santa.  Quantess   Dec-04-11 07:25 AM   #30 
  - What makes one myth more acceptable or persistent than another?  BadgerKid   Dec-04-11 07:24 AM   #29 
  - Santa Claus is a rather effective money-making operation  alcibiades_mystery   Dec-04-11 08:20 AM   #50 
  - Agreed. nt  avebury   Dec-04-11 11:50 AM   #82 
  - Has every President from George Washington to Barack Obama believed in Santa Claus? (nt)  Nye Bevan   Dec-04-11 09:17 AM   #59 
  - A muslim teacher in New York  demicritic   Dec-04-11 07:28 AM   #31 
  - have zero evidence of that at all  alcibiades_mystery   Dec-04-11 08:21 AM   #51 
  - +1. Hit the nail right on the head.  COLGATE4   Dec-04-11 10:49 AM   #73 
  - New York, eh?  Iggo   Dec-04-11 03:07 PM   #92 
  - ALERT!  L. Coyote   Dec-05-11 10:25 AM   #143 
  - The teacher is correct  malaise   Dec-04-11 07:35 AM   #37 
  - What an idiot she is.  Swede   Dec-04-11 07:35 AM   #38 
  - What if you lie to your kids until they are in high school  _ed_   Dec-04-11 08:07 AM   #44 
  - Great - grownups feel the need to say the teacher is lying  muriel_volestrangler   Dec-04-11 07:51 AM   #39 
  - Second grade is a little old for Santa isn't it?  Starry Messenger   Dec-04-11 08:05 AM   #43 
  - It sure is. I'm agog at the idea that the PARENTS are taking the teacher  Nay   Dec-04-11 08:12 AM   #46 
  - If parents want that much control of what their children know  treestar   Dec-04-11 11:46 AM   #81 
  - lol - I made my stories more and more elaborate as my daughter figured it out  TBF   Dec-04-11 09:12 AM   #56 
  - My mom kept it going for awhile.  Starry Messenger   Dec-04-11 10:24 AM   #66 
  - Send your kids to my place so I can decide some stuff for them in your place, OK?  Dreamer Tatum   Dec-04-11 10:41 AM   #69 
  - I believed in Santa until I was almost in middle school, so you shut up.  Arkana   Dec-04-11 10:51 AM   #75 
  - My kid's 2nd grade class has a majority of believers. Santa leaves my  msanthrope   Dec-04-11 05:29 PM   #107 
  - That's one short-sighted person. And, ,,, a teacher? That's scary.  Festivito   Dec-04-11 08:24 AM   #53 
  - Early exposure to Santatheism.  sofa king   Dec-04-11 09:07 AM   #55 
  - Yep :-) nt  frogmarch   Dec-04-11 09:17 AM   #58 
  - My atheist daughter believes in Santa Claus, nt  msanthrope   Dec-04-11 05:31 PM   #108 
  - Change the position of the "n" is Santa and you have Satan  aint_no_life_nowhere   Dec-04-11 05:37 PM   #110 
  - Being a jerk rarely helps one be a good teacher.  JoePhilly   Dec-04-11 09:32 AM   #60 
  - Good approach... nt  Cid_B   Dec-04-11 10:23 AM   #65 
  - If that's what happened, the teacher was out of line  WolverineDG   Dec-04-11 10:15 AM   #61 
  - Santa and TF not real? Balderdash!  RobertDevereaux   Dec-04-11 10:19 AM   #62 
  - She's what I call a: Ruiner  firehorse   Dec-04-11 10:37 AM   #68 
  - EXACTLY. The kind who reveals endings of mysteries. "The policeman is the killer!" type.  WinkyDink   Dec-04-11 06:20 PM   #122 
  - Was it said that her heart was...two sizes too small?  Arkana   Dec-04-11 10:50 AM   #74 
  - Older siblings  HockeyMom   Dec-04-11 11:39 AM   #77 
  - Get your unisex body suits here.  Cats Against Frist   Dec-04-11 12:35 PM   #86 
  - Scrooge isn't real.  GeorgeGist   Dec-04-11 12:46 PM   #87 
  - Sure he is, but his real name is Cheyney :) (nt)  The Straight Story   Dec-04-11 03:09 PM   #94 
  - I support the teacher. Don't kids outgrow that Santa/fairy tale BS by age 6?  alp227   Dec-04-11 05:04 PM   #104 
  - No, The majority of kids in my daughters 2nd grade class believe.  msanthrope   Dec-04-11 05:34 PM   #109 
  - What's wrong with allowing Kids  Texasgal   Dec-04-11 06:08 PM   #116 
  - What's wrong with educators supporting delusions? Everything!  L. Coyote   Dec-05-11 10:38 AM   #144 
  - Oh, brother.  WinkyDink   Dec-04-11 06:21 PM   #123 
  - It was my 3rd grade teacher who outed santa  loyalsister   Dec-04-11 05:52 PM   #113 
  - This teacher's hard-line "respect for facts" made liars out of parents of 7-yr-olds. NOT COOL.  WinkyDink   Dec-04-11 06:19 PM   #120 
  - "allegations"  Renew Deal   Dec-04-11 07:04 PM   #126 
  - The teacher is a jerk. If kids say Santa lives at the North Pole, then show them  LeftinOH   Dec-05-11 07:43 AM   #129 
  - Next thing you know, the kids will find out there is no Trickle Down from Saint Ronnie  L. Coyote   Dec-05-11 10:01 AM   #135 
  - Wait...Santa isn't real?  Godhumor   Dec-05-11 10:17 AM   #140 
  - leprechauns  octothorpe   Dec-05-11 11:07 AM   #146 
  - Santa is just for fun. That teacher was being a rude spoilsport. (nt)  redqueen   Dec-05-11 10:41 AM   #145 
  - What if the teacher said "Santa Claus is real and he lives at the North Pole"? What would you say?  L. Coyote   Dec-05-11 11:39 AM   #147 
  - Every good Pagan and anthropologist knows that Santa is in fact real  flamingdem   Dec-05-11 12:02 PM   #151 

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