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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-11 12:12 AM
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  -Serious question for third-party advocates: Robb  Dec-02-11 08:56 PM   #0 
  - There are no safeguards. All we can hope for is that people get sick and tired of the  Sarah Ibarruri   Dec-02-11 09:02 PM   #1 
  - Yes, there is one safeguard --the policies supported are like Kryptonite to moneyed interests  CreekDog   Dec-02-11 09:11 PM   #6 
  - Unless I'm mistaken any genuine response to this post would at least  LeftyMom   Dec-02-11 09:05 PM   #2 
  - what? from the mod that told all of us that dared criticize Obama to just leave DU?  CreekDog   Dec-02-11 09:10 PM   #4 
  - Yes, and it also is not serious since it is clearly a rhetorical question.  Bonobo   Dec-02-11 09:11 PM   #7 
  - and from a mod at that  G_j   Dec-02-11 11:38 PM   #35 
  - because those interests support the status quo --and a successful third party is not that  CreekDog   Dec-02-11 09:08 PM   #3 
  - But how can it be successful without being influential and therefore a target?  Robb   Dec-02-11 09:11 PM   #5 
     - I don't know except that the money seems to not work like it used to  CreekDog   Dec-02-11 09:13 PM   #8 
        - It's the worst part of the notion of a "marketplace of ideas"  Robb   Dec-02-11 09:19 PM   #14 
           - I don't know that money is the problem --I have money and I vote for the poor  CreekDog   Dec-02-11 09:31 PM   #22 
  - That sounds like a good reason for just walking away from politics altogether..  Fumesucker   Dec-02-11 09:14 PM   #9 
  - Which is actually the beauty of OWS  Robb   Dec-02-11 09:17 PM   #11 
  - There's a vast ocean of money, influence and political power sloshing around..  Fumesucker   Dec-02-11 09:30 PM   #20 
  - I'm also hopeful OWS becomes a huge voting block that wields a lot of  RKP5637   Dec-04-11 07:17 PM   #51 
  - and, for the sake of DU rules  RetroLounge   Dec-02-11 09:14 PM   #10 
  - The threat that a corrupted party can be deposed and destroyed by voters  jpgray   Dec-02-11 09:17 PM   #12 
  - Exactly. And were that threat credible  Robb   Dec-02-11 09:24 PM   #16 
     - The problem is that non-voters are on no one's radar, and if you vote, you vote for corruption  jpgray   Dec-02-11 09:33 PM   #23 
     - Well, except inasmuch as everyone wants non-voters to turn into voters.  Robb   Dec-02-11 09:50 PM   #28 
     - Fix apportionment and it's fixed. We're way under-represented.  joshcryer   Dec-04-11 07:18 PM   #52 
  - I'll go there. Let's suppose you are in an abusive relationship and decide to leave for someone else  The Straight Story   Dec-02-11 09:18 PM   #13 
  - If we coud get the money out of politics we wouldn't even have  Booster   Dec-02-11 09:23 PM   #15 
  - Bingo.  Robb   Dec-02-11 09:26 PM   #17 
  - money and crapitalist....  unkachuck   Dec-02-11 09:28 PM   #18 
  - heh, was just listening to this and it reminds of politics (use some imagination)  The Straight Story   Dec-02-11 09:29 PM   #19 
  - None. Therein lies the impetus behind the OWS movement.  mmonk   Dec-02-11 09:30 PM   #21 
  - +1  Zorra   Dec-03-11 12:12 AM   #37 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-02-11 09:35 PM   #24 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-02-11 09:43 PM   #25 
  - No safeguards  Cali_Democrat   Dec-02-11 09:45 PM   #26 
  - What would be an example of a country you would consider not broken for comparative purposes?  NNN0LHI   Dec-03-11 02:15 PM   #44 
  - I'm not a third-party advocate but if I were, I'd say that 100%  coalition_unwilling   Dec-02-11 09:47 PM   #27 
  - Too difficult because the establishment money sources  Robb   Dec-02-11 09:54 PM   #30 
     - Well, that's true of course. But what I meant was that a 100%  coalition_unwilling   Dec-02-11 10:33 PM   #31 
  - Candidate X gets 36% Candidate Y gets 34% Candidate Z gets 30%.  FarLeftFist   Dec-02-11 09:50 PM   #29 
  - Real answer...citizens united need to be vacated  nadinbrzezinski   Dec-02-11 10:39 PM   #32 
  - Not at all, I think you have the meat of the matter.  Robb   Dec-02-11 10:57 PM   #33 
  - Of course that is what will happen. What's needed is a way to get rid of  MADem   Dec-02-11 11:30 PM   #34 
  - A call-out, by a Mod no less. Okay, I'll bite.  flvegan   Dec-03-11 12:04 AM   #36 
  - Well, not for a third party, maybe 20 or so.  Rex   Dec-03-11 12:43 AM   #38 
  - There are lots of other serious questions, similar to that one...  Shampoobra   Dec-03-11 12:45 AM   #39 
  - I'm not a 3rd party advocate  loyalsister   Dec-03-11 03:45 AM   #40 
  - And with the 41st post of the thread...  ellisonz   Dec-03-11 04:00 AM   #41 
  - Is there such a thing as "a former dingbat"?  A-Schwarzenegger   Dec-03-11 01:40 PM   #42 
     - No.  ellisonz   Dec-03-11 01:52 PM   #43 
        - We admitted we were powerless over dingbatism...  A-Schwarzenegger   Dec-03-11 02:15 PM   #45 
           - Why are you so virulently against Dingbatism?  Ikonoklast   Dec-04-11 06:02 PM   #50 
  - The next third party. n/t  Junkdrawer   Dec-03-11 02:16 PM   #46 
  - I'm not for a third party I'm for a second party.  sabrina 1   Dec-03-11 02:25 PM   #47 
  - Exactly.  Wind Dancer   Dec-03-11 02:32 PM   #48 
  - It would be nice to break the grip of the establishment parties and find out.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Dec-03-11 02:32 PM   #49 
  - Your post, while I am sure was meant to push people to stick with candidates the Dem party runs....  Marrah_G   Dec-06-11 10:05 PM   #53 
 

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