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| 101. There definitely needs to be hearings on WHY these men put that language in the bill |
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They both need to be put under a VERY PUBLIC MICROSCOPE, and questioned about their benefactors, and who in the hell is behind them trying to sabotage our constitution like that.
We really need to get to the bottom of what is happening to our freedoms. And THIS is one of the prime reasons why the bush administration should have faced justice.
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| -A Gut-Check Moment for Mr. Obama |
WilliamPitt |
Nov-30-11 01:12 PM |
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Treason! |
RUMMYisFROSTED |
Nov-30-11 01:14 PM |
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Exactly. |
DeSwiss |
Nov-30-11 05:00 PM |
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Diminished expectations call this a 'gut-check'. Anybody got a microscope? -eom |
Huey P. Long |
Nov-30-11 01:17 PM |
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....... |
DJ13 |
Nov-30-11 01:28 PM |
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I didn't fall in love, but I did expect a Democrat who taught Constitutional law |
gkhouston |
Nov-30-11 04:26 PM |
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Unrecced for never getting to the meat of the issue at all. |
MineralMan |
Nov-30-11 01:18 PM |
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Snap! |
RUMMYisFROSTED |
Nov-30-11 01:21 PM |
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OP rec'd twice ... |
GeorgeGist |
Dec-01-11 09:45 AM |
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Thanks for reminding me to recommend it. N/t. |
emcguffie |
Dec-01-11 11:51 AM |
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"half a loaf" |
Arctic Dave |
Nov-30-11 01:19 PM |
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He said he would veto it. |
tabatha |
Nov-30-11 01:21 PM |
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Deleted message |
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Nov-30-11 01:24 PM |
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You have trouble clicking provided links? |
WilliamPitt |
Nov-30-11 01:25 PM |
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Obviously not. I read the entire article, which is why I posted |
MineralMan |
Nov-30-11 01:30 PM |
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Deleted sub-thread |
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Nov-30-11 01:32 PM |
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"but it doesn't serve to damn President Obama, so it's not included here" |
Ignis |
Dec-01-11 05:45 PM |
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Jesus. |
WilliamPitt |
Nov-30-11 01:25 PM |
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I, for one, would never give a rag like Truthout the value of my traffic. nt |
TheWraith |
Nov-30-11 01:29 PM |
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Well, thanks for kicking the thread. |
WilliamPitt |
Nov-30-11 01:32 PM |
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LOL |
mmonk |
Nov-30-11 09:31 PM |
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My favorite reply |
WilliamPitt |
Nov-30-11 09:43 PM |
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Deserves another kick. |
mmonk |
Nov-30-11 09:53 PM |
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Thanks |
WilliamPitt |
Nov-30-11 10:03 PM |
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And Another Kick !!! |
WillyT |
Dec-02-11 05:45 PM |
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Lol, and here's another kick! |
sabrina 1 |
Dec-01-11 12:25 AM |
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Deleted message |
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Nov-30-11 01:38 PM |
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Bwahahahahahaha !!! |
WillyT |
Nov-30-11 10:59 PM |
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Sticking to the WSJ Opinions page, are you? |
Ignis |
Dec-01-11 05:43 PM |
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Jesus! |
MineralMan |
Nov-30-11 01:32 PM |
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Thanks for kicking the thread. |
WilliamPitt |
Nov-30-11 01:32 PM |
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Obama has said a lot of things |
hifiguy |
Nov-30-11 01:39 PM |
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I agree! And this time... |
DocMac |
Nov-30-11 02:15 PM |
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word up |
frylock |
Nov-30-11 03:00 PM |
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Exactly |
a2liberal |
Dec-01-11 09:07 AM |
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Obama has said a lot of things only to turn around and do |
sabrina 1 |
Dec-01-11 12:28 AM |
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We heard this one before....public option anyone? |
U4ikLefty |
Dec-01-11 03:53 AM |
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I think maybe you have control issues. |
emcguffie |
Dec-01-11 11:56 AM |
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obama sez a lot of shit |
frylock |
Nov-30-11 02:59 PM |
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He said he would close Gitmo also...In fact he has said a lot of things |
Bandit |
Nov-30-11 03:20 PM |
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I hope he will veto it too, but I suppose the author addressed that via |
midnight |
Nov-30-11 05:49 PM |
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I think the author is waiting to see if the President fulfills that veto promise n/t |
markpkessinger |
Dec-02-11 05:42 PM |
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K&R! Gut Check Moment, Indeed. eom. |
KoKo |
Nov-30-11 01:32 PM |
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K&R n/t |
OhioChick |
Nov-30-11 01:33 PM |
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Great piece, Will. |
hifiguy |
Nov-30-11 01:34 PM |
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I'm confused |
Hutzpa |
Nov-30-11 01:38 PM |
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Levin falling on his sword so that PObama can veto a highly visible bill |
wiggs |
Nov-30-11 01:54 PM |
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I'm sick of political games, |
Blue_In_AK |
Nov-30-11 01:58 PM |
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Agree...if Levin would do that it would be a political stunt and not worth what |
KoKo |
Nov-30-11 02:41 PM |
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No way, that's how the Republicans play. Remember when we forced the Republicans... |
joshcryer |
Nov-30-11 07:40 PM |
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I guess I could look on it that if "Levin is pulling a Political Stunt," and it's good |
KoKo |
Nov-30-11 08:32 PM |
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Yep. |
joshcryer |
Nov-30-11 07:39 PM |
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I have the same question. |
emcguffie |
Dec-01-11 11:59 AM |
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To me, the gut check moment is whether or not he should continue in office. |
BlueIris |
Nov-30-11 01:57 PM |
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This is one Obama had better veto. |
dtexdem |
Nov-30-11 02:12 PM |
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Pres O warned the Senate he would veto the bill if it contained the indefinite detention provision. |
AtomicKitten |
Nov-30-11 02:40 PM |
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Will Pitt has that in his article. You needed to read the whole article at the link... |
KoKo |
Nov-30-11 02:43 PM |
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I read it and wonder why that germaine tidbit was virtually buried in the piece. |
AtomicKitten |
Nov-30-11 02:46 PM |
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Building towards the conclusion. |
WilliamPitt |
Nov-30-11 02:51 PM |
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With O's veto threat out there, how/why did this get past Senate Dems to begin with? |
AtomicKitten |
Nov-30-11 03:12 PM |
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The Senate shot down an amendment to exclude American citizens 61-38. WTF?!! |
AtomicKitten |
Nov-30-11 04:22 PM |
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I don't think Will Pitt "intentionally" deceived you with you not finding the quote.. |
KoKo |
Nov-30-11 08:07 PM |
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+1 |
WilliamPitt |
Nov-30-11 08:30 PM |
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Whatever...go over to the site and READ Pitt's Full article. Quote from Obama Veto is there... |
KoKo |
Nov-30-11 08:40 PM |
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I didn't imply he did; I questioned why the veto threat was given short shrift. |
AtomicKitten |
Dec-01-11 02:27 AM |
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I think maybe the main point wasn't the veto threat. |
emcguffie |
Dec-01-11 12:03 PM |
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It's an election year. |
WilliamPitt |
Dec-01-11 12:04 PM |
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I wonder if you are aware |
AtomicKitten |
Dec-01-11 12:27 PM |
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I am well aware of my reputation here. |
WilliamPitt |
Dec-01-11 12:46 PM |
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Allow me to jump in here and say... |
trumad |
Dec-01-11 02:11 PM |
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I'll mannered post. Something a coward would do, I'd say you just |
LaurenG |
Dec-01-11 03:11 PM |
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Correction: It proves what hypocrites people can be. |
AtomicKitten |
Dec-01-11 03:16 PM |
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Very cruel and un-necessary. nt |
LaurenG |
Dec-01-11 03:19 PM |
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(headdesk) |
WilliamPitt |
Dec-01-11 03:24 PM |
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Wow, example of Doucheosity |
RetroLounge |
Dec-01-11 05:12 PM |
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"Site B"????? |
WilliamPitt |
Dec-01-11 05:48 PM |
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Perhaps she meant site B(ees)? |
myrna minx |
Dec-01-11 07:14 PM |
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What are you talking about "swerve into subterfuge"and what is site b |
LaurenG |
Dec-01-11 08:37 PM |
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Wow! are you full of SHIT! |
rtassi |
Dec-02-11 09:17 AM |
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I didn't say that it was. I said ... |
AtomicKitten |
Dec-01-11 12:21 PM |
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Maybe I posted in the wrong spot. |
emcguffie |
Dec-01-11 08:50 PM |
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Mr. Pitt |
Juneboarder |
Nov-30-11 02:47 PM |
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knr |
frylock |
Nov-30-11 03:02 PM |
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Well, at least he can get plenty of campaign funding from the corporations n/t |
AntiFascist |
Nov-30-11 03:16 PM |
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Excellent piece with a burning question as to why hasn't the |
sad sally |
Nov-30-11 03:18 PM |
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Truly...the questions mount and surely the Voters need to Know? That's Democratic Way... |
KoKo |
Nov-30-11 08:10 PM |
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I agree with most of what you wrote, Sally, but under the Uniform Code of Military Justice |
bertman |
Nov-30-11 11:00 PM |
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How long until he "compromises" with the fascists and settles for a "not as bad" bill? |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Nov-30-11 03:25 PM |
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Here is a video you will enjoy: |
bvar22 |
Nov-30-11 05:31 PM |
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It's a great video |
malthaussen |
Nov-30-11 05:53 PM |
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K&R. |
City Lights |
Nov-30-11 05:39 PM |
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Right? |
WilliamPitt |
Nov-30-11 05:51 PM |
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k&r... |
spanone |
Nov-30-11 05:53 PM |
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Excellent article Mr. Pitt. As always. |
Autumn |
Nov-30-11 06:10 PM |
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"We shall see" |
WilliamPitt |
Nov-30-11 06:18 PM |
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Have you ever seen the movie _The Seduction of Joe Tynan_, with Alan Alda |
tblue37 |
Nov-30-11 07:04 PM |
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To a lesser degree "The Candidate" is still a good watch. But, Obama must have seen same movies |
KoKo |
Nov-30-11 08:12 PM |
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There's also another political film... |
KoKo |
Nov-30-11 08:29 PM |
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Obama |
krucial |
Nov-30-11 08:38 PM |
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The best I can say and "hopeful" about Obama is that by just being himself |
KoKo |
Nov-30-11 08:59 PM |
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K&R, thanks very much. n/t |
Jefferson23 |
Nov-30-11 08:57 PM |
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Recommended. |
mmonk |
Nov-30-11 09:32 PM |
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very well done. i'm bookmarking this too... |
nashville_brook |
Nov-30-11 10:36 PM |
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Gut-check moment indeed. But, if past is prologue, well . . . |
bertman |
Nov-30-11 10:57 PM |
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Democrats in the House who voted for the bill are named at this website |
JDPriestly |
Dec-01-11 12:14 AM |
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Good read. |
blackspade |
Dec-01-11 12:18 AM |
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K&R Excellent article, hope Obama does the right thing |
girl_interrupted |
Dec-01-11 12:35 AM |
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Obama, stand UP! and |
burrowowl |
Dec-01-11 01:13 AM |
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kr |
Norrin Radd |
Dec-01-11 01:46 AM |
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You undoubtedly remember the phrase defining insanity |
n2doc |
Dec-01-11 05:51 AM |
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President Obama has placed a lot of focus on national security. |
Enthusiast |
Dec-01-11 07:07 AM |
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Well done, Mr. Pitt. |
stlsaxman |
Dec-01-11 07:20 AM |
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K&R |
MissDeeds |
Dec-01-11 07:36 AM |
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K & R. |
chill_wind |
Dec-01-11 08:49 AM |
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I liked this thread, WilliamPitt |
Samantha |
Dec-01-11 09:04 AM |
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If this bill passes, |
Flora |
Dec-01-11 09:05 AM |
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K&R |
Owl |
Dec-01-11 09:56 AM |
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knr |
Douglas Carpenter |
Dec-01-11 12:23 PM |
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There definitely needs to be hearings on WHY these men put that language in the bill |
loudsue |
Dec-01-11 12:26 PM |
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you seem to have answered your your own questions |
roman7 |
Dec-01-11 12:35 PM |
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LOL! |
Vinnie From Indy |
Dec-01-11 12:36 PM |
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willfull ignorance is thinking there is no difference between bush & president obama |
roman7 |
Dec-01-11 12:58 PM |
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It seems to me that the differences are merely in style and presentation |
Vinnie From Indy |
Dec-01-11 02:32 PM |
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The puppet likes the puppetty strings - |
truedelphi |
Dec-01-11 12:41 PM |
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oops two times |
roman7 |
Dec-01-11 12:50 PM |
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Obama's record stands -- |
defendandprotect |
Dec-01-11 01:30 PM |
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Kick! Sorry to be late so I could rec. |
Shining Jack |
Dec-01-11 03:15 PM |
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Lack of thesis statement... hurts... my... poor.. little... sensibilities.... |
ZombieHorde |
Dec-01-11 03:50 PM |
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Some of us knew this would be the price we'd pay for electing the first Black President of the U.S. |
Major Hogwash |
Dec-01-11 04:12 PM |
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Your screen name suits your post. |
WilliamPitt |
Dec-01-11 04:18 PM |
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The tv screens will soon be filled with scenes of our troops finally returning home from the war. |
Major Hogwash |
Dec-01-11 09:29 PM |
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Thank you for this article. Some of the responses here are astonishing. |
myrna minx |
Dec-01-11 04:44 PM |
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Check out |
WilliamPitt |
Dec-01-11 05:41 PM |
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Missed the R, but here's your K. |
Ignis |
Dec-01-11 05:48 PM |
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... |
Solly Mack |
Dec-02-11 05:49 PM |
#134 |
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