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The2ndWheel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 11:33 AM
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8. Prisoners of history, slaves to the future
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  -Is the shit in which we're standing today deeper than it has been in the past? Stinky The Clown  Nov-30-11 11:12 AM   #0 
  - Historically speaking, we are just warming up, IMHO. nt  bemildred   Nov-30-11 11:13 AM   #1 
  - Yes. In every imaginable sense, worse than anyone alive now has ever seen. n/t  lumberjack_jeff   Nov-30-11 11:15 AM   #2 
  - Looks pretty bad  Newest Reality   Nov-30-11 11:21 AM   #3 
  - read The Jungle, and compare today to those times..  dionysus   Nov-30-11 11:29 AM   #4 
  - Could one survive during the time "The Jungle" was written  Missy Vixen   Nov-30-11 11:31 AM   #6 
  - they had a hard enough time affording food and not freezing to death in the streets.  dionysus   Nov-30-11 12:02 PM   #17 
     - Jobs where they had to work 10-12 hours a day.  redqueen   Nov-30-11 12:19 PM   #20 
     - Anyone who works for a startup in the software industry works those hours, too  Missy Vixen   Nov-30-11 12:38 PM   #22 
     - I was referring more to factory workers.  redqueen   Nov-30-11 12:40 PM   #23 
     - thats JUST like working 16 hours shifts in a foundry or slaughterhouse!  dionysus   Nov-30-11 12:45 PM   #27 
     - Yeah, you're funny, aren't you?  Missy Vixen   Nov-30-11 02:32 PM   #48 
        - if you're comparing office work to risk of getting crushed to death by livestock or heavy machinery,  dionysus   Nov-30-11 02:36 PM   #50 
           - I get the OP's point  Missy Vixen   Nov-30-11 02:41 PM   #51 
              - you've bought the OP's bullcrap hyperbole, is all you've done...  dionysus   Nov-30-11 02:43 PM   #52 
     - come on, you're going to make some modern corporate robber baron  newspeak   Nov-30-11 01:04 PM   #34 
     - How many six-year olds are getting maimed by the slaughtering machines in these new start-ups?  LanternWaste   Nov-30-11 02:52 PM   #57 
        - Child labor is still legal in America's fields. Please educate yourself.  Romulox   Nov-30-11 03:36 PM   #64 
     - and job with a very high likelihood of a crippling or fatal injury.  dionysus   Nov-30-11 12:44 PM   #26 
        - I have to say...  redqueen   Nov-30-11 12:52 PM   #29 
           - +1  dionysus   Nov-30-11 01:06 PM   #35 
     - Maybe you might want to research the spike in hunger and homelessness since 2008  Missy Vixen   Nov-30-11 12:41 PM   #24 
        - be that as it may, it's foolish to equate the two eras. zero social safety net.  dionysus   Nov-30-11 12:42 PM   #25 
           - There actually was a safety net at the time if 'the jungle'. Home relief, settlement houses,  WildNovember   Nov-30-11 12:55 PM   #30 
              - comparable to modern day subsidized housing, food stamps, unemployment benefits?  dionysus   Nov-30-11 01:08 PM   #36 
                 - you said "zero safety net". just clarifying the record.  WildNovember   Nov-30-11 01:11 PM   #37 
  - +1  redqueen   Nov-30-11 11:54 AM   #16 
  - Yes indeed, and thank you for that.  TheWraith   Nov-30-11 02:10 PM   #46 
  - we sure got problems, but for people typing on computers to claim they have it worse,  dionysus   Nov-30-11 02:46 PM   #55 
     - Agreed. The world could be better, but it WILL be better, and was much worse before.  TheWraith   Nov-30-11 05:48 PM   #70 
  - *You* should read about the bubonic plague. Those meatpackers didn't know how good they had it!  Romulox   Nov-30-11 03:19 PM   #59 
     - is there a point in that post, anywhere? i can't seem to find it....  dionysus   Nov-30-11 03:31 PM   #61 
        - It's the same point *you* made: somebody else had it worse, so shut your mouth. nt  Romulox   Nov-30-11 03:33 PM   #63 
           - i see. you must be confused, or haven't read the OP correctly...  dionysus   Nov-30-11 03:40 PM   #65 
              - Nonsense. Your small imagination simply put an artificial time limit on "the past".  Romulox   Nov-30-11 03:42 PM   #66 
  - We have the technology to avoid some shit  Missy Vixen   Nov-30-11 11:30 AM   #5 
  - Looking at the lowest rungs of the ladder.  PETRUS   Nov-30-11 11:34 AM   #9 
  - It seems awful.  PETRUS   Nov-30-11 11:31 AM   #7 
  - Prisoners of history, slaves to the future  The2ndWheel   Nov-30-11 11:33 AM   #8 
  - i'm just blown away by the correctness of your grammar  librechik   Nov-30-11 11:36 AM   #10 
  - It's worse than it has been in my lifetime, by a long shot.  hifiguy   Nov-30-11 11:42 AM   #11 
  - Are they serving shit sandwiches along with that shit soup?  Major Hogwash   Nov-30-11 11:46 AM   #12 
  - Just past the critical mass stage I'd guess &  stellanoir   Nov-30-11 11:48 AM   #13 
  - So deep that it is now reaching the fan, which it shall soon be hitting.  kenny blankenship   Nov-30-11 11:48 AM   #14 
  - That's a great point!  Kermitt Gribble   Nov-30-11 01:02 PM   #33 
  - The cumulative results of money-over-people policies are reaching crisis, is all.  DirkGently   Nov-30-11 11:53 AM   #15 
  - No.  MADem   Nov-30-11 12:13 PM   #18 
  - Considering economic problems plus ideological divisions, it's worse than centuries past.  pacalo   Nov-30-11 12:16 PM   #19 
  - As time goes by, the overall population expands, while the resources  Amonester   Nov-30-11 12:26 PM   #21 
  - Climate change will intensify all other issues.  CrispyQ   Nov-30-11 12:51 PM   #28 
  - Here are the things that freak me out the most:  XemaSab   Nov-30-11 12:55 PM   #31 
  - Good post.  woo me with science   Nov-30-11 04:54 PM   #69 
  - Much deeper because most people can't smell it.  Octafish   Nov-30-11 12:57 PM   #32 
  - Indeed.  hifiguy   Nov-30-11 01:20 PM   #40 
  - Well said. We are becoming slaves of a system that is in many ways inescapable,  woo me with science   Nov-30-11 03:17 PM   #58 
  - The outer edges of the shitstorm is just now making itself known.  Huey P. Long   Nov-30-11 01:12 PM   #38 
  - It's The Same Shit  Yavin4   Nov-30-11 01:12 PM   #39 
  - The really bad part...  bvar22   Nov-30-11 01:21 PM   #41 
  - We have some problems to solve. They've become obvious so we CAN solve them.  Fire Walk With Me   Nov-30-11 01:28 PM   #42 
  - It was the best of times, it was the worst of times....  PassingFair   Nov-30-11 01:37 PM   #43 
  - A mass die-off of the human species is a certainty because  PufPuf23   Nov-30-11 02:06 PM   #44 
  - Um, I think it's pretty deep.  Blue_In_AK   Nov-30-11 02:07 PM   #45 
  - Thats not shit!  Vanje   Nov-30-11 02:17 PM   #47 
  - YES  Angry Dragon   Nov-30-11 02:35 PM   #49 
  - It has been piled higher and deeper  Aerows   Nov-30-11 02:44 PM   #53 
  - By almost all respects people in the US live in the greatest time ever  AngryAmish   Nov-30-11 02:45 PM   #54 
  - The "deep shit" from years past turns into an entertaining academic lesson  LanternWaste   Nov-30-11 02:50 PM   #56 
  - Not to mention we're standing on our heads  Blue Owl   Nov-30-11 03:23 PM   #60 
  - +1 Biggest problem  Aerows   Nov-30-11 03:46 PM   #68 
  - We've got it great compared to those who had to live through the...  MilesColtrane   Nov-30-11 03:33 PM   #62 
  - The empire is unwinding, and the PTB are fighting with all of their energy against the inevitable.  Romulox   Nov-30-11 03:45 PM   #67 
  - Stinky, would you check this out? I posted it late last night.  EFerrari   Nov-30-11 05:51 PM   #71 

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