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Wed Nov-30-11 01:34 PM
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| 49. Well, there's this guy - looks like he's adopting OWS principles... |
| -No To Co-Option: MoveOn Is The Opposite Of The Occupy Movement |
BridgeTheGap |
Nov-30-11 09:43 AM |
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Will most Occupiers vote? I've been an Occupier and always vote but... |
polichick |
Nov-30-11 09:49 AM |
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I always vote, and I'm an Occupier also. nt |
Zorra |
Nov-30-11 10:29 AM |
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I hope that thinking applies to the majority of young Occupiers... |
polichick |
Nov-30-11 10:38 AM |
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Occupy needs to give this a rest. MoveOn is not trying to steal their movement. |
proud2BlibKansan |
Nov-30-11 09:49 AM |
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Vigilance is the only solution |
inademv |
Nov-30-11 09:54 AM |
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Vigilance for what? |
proud2BlibKansan |
Nov-30-11 10:09 AM |
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It may represent a distrust in the 2 party system, which, after all, got us to where we are. imho |
groovedaddy |
Nov-30-11 11:13 AM |
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You are incredibly wrong. |
Arctic Dave |
Nov-30-11 10:07 AM |
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That is your opinion |
proud2BlibKansan |
Nov-30-11 10:25 AM |
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Thank you. |
Starry Messenger |
Nov-30-11 10:36 AM |
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And here in my city the national day of action |
nadinbrzezinski |
Nov-30-11 12:20 PM |
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It is very different then. |
Arctic Dave |
Nov-30-11 12:57 PM |
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Yep. And Van Jones has been particularly nauseating in this regard. |
EFerrari |
Nov-30-11 11:05 AM |
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Let me introduce you to the newest wing of the Republican Party - the teabaggers |
joeglow3 |
Nov-30-11 10:13 AM |
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So now MoveOn = tea party?? |
proud2BlibKansan |
Nov-30-11 10:29 AM |
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Come on, really? |
joeglow3 |
Nov-30-11 10:45 AM |
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How does OSW expect to grow without adding new followers? |
proud2BlibKansan |
Nov-30-11 10:54 AM |
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It sounds like MoveOn is having actions using the language of OWS |
EFerrari |
Nov-30-11 11:44 AM |
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Not where I am |
proud2BlibKansan |
Nov-30-11 12:20 PM |
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Well, that's good to hear. nt |
EFerrari |
Nov-30-11 01:24 PM |
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I welcome the advocacy of people with influence |
inademv |
Nov-30-11 09:50 AM |
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I get emails from them everyday about doing a "99% action" they come up with in my community. |
mmonk |
Nov-30-11 10:05 AM |
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How can something that claims to have no leadership or ownership |
frazzled |
Nov-30-11 10:07 AM |
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Then why don't they coordinate rather than supplant actions? |
mmonk |
Nov-30-11 10:13 AM |
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Exactly |
proud2BlibKansan |
Nov-30-11 10:28 AM |
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No, MoveOn is not a person. It is a couple of rich people |
EFerrari |
Nov-30-11 11:00 AM |
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+1. It's supposed to be educating the public and inclusive. |
freshwest |
Nov-30-11 01:06 PM |
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I did notice at our local occupy that noisy street people were not encouraged to stick around though |
groovedaddy |
Dec-01-11 12:12 PM |
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This does not sound good......MoveOn and the Occupy Movement |
Tippy |
Nov-30-11 10:29 AM |
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OWS is anti politics, not pro Democrat. |
dkf |
Nov-30-11 10:39 AM |
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voting is only 1/2 of it. Change comes when politicians change their ways. |
boston bean |
Nov-30-11 10:49 AM |
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But protesting in the streets is always a minority of the population. |
dkf |
Nov-30-11 10:55 AM |
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You are thinking about this the wrong way. OWS might only have so many people out in the streets, |
boston bean |
Nov-30-11 11:27 AM |
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It's critical that OWS votes in big numbers - otherwise, the politicians will... |
polichick |
Nov-30-11 12:57 PM |
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I wish there was an OWS party. They'd get my vote everytime. |
freshwest |
Nov-30-11 01:07 PM |
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Well, there's this guy - looks like he's adopting OWS principles... |
polichick |
Nov-30-11 01:34 PM |
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Yeah. How is OWS going to remake the system without voting exactly? |
Proud Liberal Dem |
Nov-30-11 11:00 AM |
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Pressure. Political Pressure caused by social unrest. It is a proven tactic. |
boston bean |
Nov-30-11 11:26 AM |
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Pressure is important |
Proud Liberal Dem |
Nov-30-11 12:59 PM |
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OWS has not demonstrated the ability to exert that kind of pressure |
hack89 |
Nov-30-11 01:04 PM |
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The anti-war movement during the Vietnam war started the same way, going through fits and starts. |
BridgeTheGap |
Nov-30-11 01:34 PM |
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The difference is that an uptick in the economy |
hack89 |
Nov-30-11 01:57 PM |
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I think you may be right but I wouldn't bet on the economy taking off any time soon. What's |
BridgeTheGap |
Dec-01-11 10:02 AM |
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flash mobs at walmart. really. |
dionysus |
Nov-30-11 01:48 PM |
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Yeah, not so much...MoveOn holds (or at least tries to hold) TPTB in the Dem party accountable... |
truebrit71 |
Nov-30-11 10:54 AM |
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Last Saturday we were having an anti-Walker rally at the Capitol |
undeterred |
Nov-30-11 11:04 AM |
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Nobody ever answers because their communication is all in one direction. |
EFerrari |
Nov-30-11 11:07 AM |
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Well, thats a problem. |
undeterred |
Nov-30-11 11:41 AM |
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Yes, it is and for a lot of reasons. They don't teach people to be active |
EFerrari |
Nov-30-11 11:45 AM |
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Every time I've been involved in a MoveOn activity its a |
undeterred |
Nov-30-11 03:22 PM |
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It is what it is. Corporate culture that two people tried to turn |
EFerrari |
Nov-30-11 03:45 PM |
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They have a very impressive email list full of people |
undeterred |
Nov-30-11 05:51 PM |
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Yep. And that list is only good for the actions that are handed down |
EFerrari |
Nov-30-11 05:54 PM |
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Good article - Occupy scores victory against Republicans |
slipslidingaway |
Nov-30-11 11:25 AM |
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Endorsing Obama, SEIU says president for 99% |
slipslidingaway |
Nov-30-11 11:52 AM |
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Too many 1%ers in the oval office to suit my leanings. Of course the republicans would be load the |
groovedaddy |
Nov-30-11 12:16 PM |
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Too many for me as well. n/t |
slipslidingaway |
Nov-30-11 04:57 PM |
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Stupid fucking article & analysis-Divide & Conquer-Republicans are masters-Same with these assholes |
GreenTea |
Nov-30-11 12:39 PM |
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Yes, by not participating, people enabled Wall Street to fill the power vacuum. |
freshwest |
Nov-30-11 01:11 PM |
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The real issue here is whether this guy's point of view is prevalent or an anomaly. But I do hear |
groovedaddy |
Dec-01-11 11:10 AM |
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Kick... |
KoKo |
Nov-30-11 01:39 PM |
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let's see what gets more change... legislation or flash mobbing a walmart... |
dionysus |
Nov-30-11 01:50 PM |
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yes, sure, what a terrible thing it is to elect Democrats. |
hfojvt |
Nov-30-11 02:06 PM |
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Working to elect people is "joining in the corruption?" |
ecstatic |
Nov-30-11 02:15 PM |
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Depends on the candidate. n/t |
gkhouston |
Nov-30-11 04:15 PM |
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dissing moveon, van jones, the dems, unions.. douche greenwald.. wow you hit all the bases... |
dionysus |
Nov-30-11 02:22 PM |
#57 |
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