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Tue Nov-29-11 03:01 PM
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| 61. Who the fuck are they kidding . . . . ? |
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Themselves?
...'cause I ain't falling for it.
Actually, they aren't either. They just hope you will fall for it.
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| -Who the fuck are they kidding . . . . ? |
Stinky The Clown |
Nov-28-11 08:22 PM |
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agreed. I think they define small business as having less than 500 employees. |
robinlynne |
Nov-28-11 08:24 PM |
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I think small business is defined by the number of owners. |
Betsy Ross |
Nov-28-11 08:28 PM |
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Ding, ding, we have a winner. |
Pacifist Patriot |
Nov-29-11 07:16 AM |
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That's right. No matter how MASSIVE the enterprise, if it's privately held, it's small business. nt |
valerief |
Nov-29-11 11:51 AM |
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So to jump to the obvious: The Koch brothers are small business owners? |
JackRiddler |
Nov-29-11 03:03 PM |
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Yes. nt |
valerief |
Nov-29-11 06:50 PM |
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The SBA does. The rank-and-file doesn't. |
krispos42 |
Nov-28-11 08:40 PM |
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SBA has various definitions depending on type of business... |
rfranklin |
Nov-29-11 08:38 AM |
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Right, But when Repubes talk about "small-business tax cuts", for example... |
krispos42 |
Nov-29-11 08:58 AM |
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All that 'depending on' allows for loopholes. I wonder if Congress uses the SBA's definition of |
valerief |
Nov-29-11 11:58 AM |
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Just tell them "There are no small business owners who make over $1 million a year." |
tclambert |
Nov-29-11 09:45 AM |
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Better yet ask them the definition of a small business owner. |
Angry Dragon |
Nov-28-11 08:25 PM |
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Don't ask. Tell them they've got it wrong and define it for them. |
tclambert |
Nov-29-11 09:51 AM |
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Here is what I was told |
Charlemagne |
Nov-29-11 10:37 AM |
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I'm speechless. Think I'll go open a shoe repair shop. :-) |
virgogal |
Nov-28-11 08:28 PM |
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...and I'll sell shoelaces door to door. |
RagAss |
Nov-28-11 08:42 PM |
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half of all "Small biz owners" are SOLEPROPRIETORS. |
elehhhhna |
Nov-28-11 08:31 PM |
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and most of us are only one person all told. |
robinlynne |
Nov-28-11 08:45 PM |
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Sole proprietor does not necessarily mean no employees.. |
Fumesucker |
Nov-29-11 05:11 AM |
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What you're talking about is different from being a sole proprietor. |
Pacifist Patriot |
Nov-29-11 07:18 AM |
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To get an SBA loan you cannot make a million dollars and still |
Melissa G |
Nov-28-11 08:35 PM |
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depends on who your 'friends' are .......... |
dothemath |
Nov-29-11 09:13 AM |
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Bechtel, the largest construction company on earth, is considered a small business |
OffWithTheirHeads |
Nov-28-11 08:37 PM |
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It boggles the mind. |
DCBob |
Nov-28-11 08:39 PM |
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C'Mon Man... You Know... Small Businesses... Like GE, BP, ATT, Wal-Mart, Exxon... |
WillyT |
Nov-28-11 08:40 PM |
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KO did a segment on that re:BP, among others, classifying it as a 'small business', as I recall. |
Huey P. Long |
Nov-29-11 10:14 AM |
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I thought it was Halliburton that was classified as a small business? |
NewJeffCT |
Nov-29-11 10:31 AM |
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Now that you mention it, yes, but in the course of doing a BP story. |
Huey P. Long |
Nov-29-11 11:53 AM |
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how many jobs have the bu$h* tax cuts created? |
spanone |
Nov-28-11 08:42 PM |
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Gross and net profit are 2 seperate things. Most small businesses don't have a 1 million net profit. |
L0oniX |
Nov-28-11 08:47 PM |
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This applies to the Koch Brothers. They are a 'small business' because |
Remember Me |
Nov-28-11 09:32 PM |
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Because you are a small business owner I have a question for you. Do you use your credit |
applegrove |
Nov-28-11 10:22 PM |
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We use company credit cards and pay the balance each and every month |
Stinky The Clown |
Nov-28-11 10:29 PM |
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My son is a small business owner. |
Lugnut |
Nov-29-11 12:45 AM |
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I'd break down in tears and call that a phenomenal year. |
Pacifist Patriot |
Nov-29-11 07:17 AM |
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My son is an over-the-road independent owner/operator. |
Lugnut |
Nov-29-11 09:11 AM |
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I'm a small business owner, many of my friends are too, but none of |
Lorien |
Nov-29-11 05:05 AM |
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A common-sense definition of a small business has to do with annual income |
meow2u3 |
Nov-29-11 08:00 AM |
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knr |
Douglas Carpenter |
Nov-29-11 06:50 AM |
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Does anyone actually buy into it though? |
harmonicon |
Nov-29-11 07:05 AM |
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another small business owner here - |
UpInArms |
Nov-29-11 07:14 AM |
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tl;dr - Republicans lie. |
paparush |
Nov-29-11 08:01 AM |
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All small businesses should earn at least a million $ a year |
Uben |
Nov-29-11 08:05 AM |
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Republicans are expert |
The Wizard |
Nov-29-11 08:05 AM |
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I know one and she is a Republican |
AllyCat |
Nov-29-11 08:41 AM |
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Kicking |
Felinity |
Nov-29-11 09:15 AM |
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small business is not limited to one owner, but one person can have a small |
peacetalksforall |
Nov-29-11 09:33 AM |
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no, wait, sometimes the easiest thing for tax purposes for a sole proprietorship is |
adamuu |
Nov-29-11 10:10 AM |
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If they're allowed to spew that BS without rebutall on Fox News, Rush, etc |
NewJeffCT |
Nov-29-11 10:35 AM |
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It is their definition that is the problem..... |
Swede Atlanta |
Nov-29-11 10:48 AM |
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I say it is a mix of ownership structure, market share, number of employees, and revenue |
TheKentuckian |
Nov-29-11 11:05 AM |
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I STILL OPPOSE this. |
bvar22 |
Nov-29-11 11:01 AM |
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+25670 |
Angry Dragon |
Nov-29-11 11:26 AM |
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You're right, of course. No argument. But this is a different issue. |
Stinky The Clown |
Nov-29-11 03:14 PM |
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Picture of the trust fund.... |
deaniac21 |
Nov-29-11 03:30 PM |
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Yes. It seems that these Senate Democrats WANT to endanger Social Security! nt |
Chef Eric |
Nov-29-11 05:30 PM |
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I thought mega-internationals were th job creators |
Doctor_J |
Nov-29-11 11:33 AM |
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Why are they so determined to mess up Soc. Sec. funding? |
madfloridian |
Nov-29-11 11:40 AM |
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I suspect it's because they think we "don't have anywhere else to go." |
Chef Eric |
Nov-29-11 05:40 PM |
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I know a lot of small business owners who make that much |
AngryAmish |
Nov-29-11 11:53 AM |
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This, non-millionairre small business owner agrees with you, Stinky. Another |
bertman |
Nov-29-11 11:56 AM |
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"Who the fuck are they kidding" |
Hubert Flottz |
Nov-29-11 11:57 AM |
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Yep ... My small business grosses about 850.000 less ... |
rtassi |
Nov-29-11 01:07 PM |
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And taxes aren't levied against gross income. |
Hosnon |
Nov-29-11 03:41 PM |
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I get hit with taxes on gross sales at the state level |
Broderick |
Nov-29-11 05:51 PM |
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But that's not income taxes, right? nt. |
Hosnon |
Nov-29-11 08:14 PM |
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No not income taxes in a conventional sense |
Broderick |
Nov-30-11 07:07 AM |
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So this 3% increase would not affect that. |
Hosnon |
Nov-30-11 02:00 PM |
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Surprised the term Micro Business hasn't entered the discussion... |
dh1760 |
Nov-29-11 01:30 PM |
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Spot on. The rhetoric they use produces images of micro businesses with Mom, Pop and the kids ...... |
Stinky The Clown |
Nov-29-11 03:41 PM |
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Correct me if I'm wrong small business owners.... |
DaveJ |
Nov-29-11 01:51 PM |
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Excellent points made, Stinky! |
liam_laddie |
Nov-29-11 02:13 PM |
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Who the fuck are they kidding . . . . ? |
AlbertCat |
Nov-29-11 03:01 PM |
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K and R |
femrap |
Nov-29-11 03:26 PM |
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Agreed and, as a small business owner, I get so effing sick of this from the GOP. |
Hosnon |
Nov-29-11 03:36 PM |
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"This Big Lie has been told, unchanged, for a looooong time." |
CrispyQ |
Nov-29-11 04:49 PM |
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Believe it or not ... |
aggiesal |
Nov-29-11 04:52 PM |
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Koch Bros fall under the term "small business" if you can believe that! |
secondwind |
Nov-29-11 05:46 PM |
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Owned my own consulting business w/ 5 employees (that's small) |
proReality |
Nov-29-11 05:51 PM |
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dems hate small business- said for 20 years from 1000 radio stations, w/out challenge |
certainot |
Nov-29-11 05:59 PM |
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People keep believing the GOP lies |
Lunabelle |
Nov-29-11 06:00 PM |
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I own my own business |
Mugweed |
Nov-29-11 06:19 PM |
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And please note, that's 3% on earnings OVER $1 million |
DFW |
Nov-29-11 06:46 PM |
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I own my own business and my income after expenses |
Tumbulu |
Nov-29-11 08:03 PM |
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US Small Business Administration defines "small business" as |
Fool Count |
Nov-29-11 08:14 PM |
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So here is an idea... |
reACTIONary |
Nov-29-11 08:52 PM |
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