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| -When I voted for Barack Obama in 2008, in a way, I thought I was voting for JFK. |
Octafish |
Jan-20-11 10:58 PM |
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K&R That's a really amazing and scary article too. |
Waiting For Everyman |
Jan-20-11 11:10 PM |
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It's not an "article," it's shit someone posted on their blog. |
TheWraith |
Jan-21-11 12:35 AM |
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I disagree |
hootinholler |
Jan-21-11 10:38 AM |
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yup |
subject |
Jan-21-11 04:58 PM |
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i'm reading the book the Family, they own everyone.. |
sam sarrha |
Jan-21-11 08:49 PM |
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No it's not. |
pam4water |
Jan-21-11 11:31 PM |
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Did I say "news"? Or was that your word? Are there no other kinds of articles? |
Waiting For Everyman |
Jan-22-11 02:49 AM |
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Every point made is sourced... |
Octafish |
Jan-21-11 07:55 AM |
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This is kind of an aside, but the other night I heard a show about the 'real' |
gateley |
Jan-20-11 11:14 PM |
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I'm kinda where you are on this. |
Old and In the Way |
Jan-21-11 12:13 AM |
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Rebuilding is the key word - I think we're beyond patching it up. |
gateley |
Jan-21-11 12:45 AM |
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Poor Obama |
Oilwellian |
Jan-21-11 10:29 AM |
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You're missing the point of the thread |
Doctor_J |
Jan-21-11 01:18 PM |
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TAHNK YOU! Truth be told! |
rtassi |
Jan-21-11 02:50 PM |
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In a way, I'm not buying it |
lark |
Jan-21-11 04:51 PM |
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I think Obama had no choice. No one would be able to fully supplant BushInc's global control |
blm |
Jan-21-11 01:30 PM |
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What if he didn't care about being reelected? |
cyberpj |
Jan-21-11 12:04 PM |
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I'm right where you are. |
blm |
Jan-21-11 01:32 PM |
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I'm a Democrat and I'm voting for Obama if he's on the ballot in 2012. |
Octafish |
Jan-21-11 08:03 AM |
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I think perhaps |
frazzled |
Jan-20-11 11:18 PM |
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+1. n/t. |
apocalypsehow |
Jan-21-11 12:10 AM |
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The Bay of Pigs was organized by Dulles and Lemnitzer for Eisenhower and Nixon. |
Octafish |
Jan-21-11 08:11 AM |
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Kennedy did not have to go through with the plan |
frazzled |
Jan-21-11 10:00 AM |
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True. But Dulles and Lemnitzer said the Cuban people would greet the liberators with flowers, etc. |
Octafish |
Jan-21-11 10:37 AM |
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The big problem with President Kennedy was that he did not learn |
jwirr |
Jan-21-11 06:51 PM |
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"cognitive infiltration of extremist groups," |
Agony |
Jan-20-11 11:20 PM |
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Why would a constitutional scholar do that? |
Octafish |
Jan-21-11 08:16 AM |
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Quite often I thought he came from another planet |
fadedrose |
Jan-20-11 11:29 PM |
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When the Treasury can fork up trillions for Wall Street and zip for Main Street, we got a problem. |
Octafish |
Jan-21-11 08:22 AM |
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Jan-20-11 11:29 PM |
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'Senator, You're No Jack Kennedy' n/t |
OhioChick |
Jan-20-11 11:35 PM |
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That was this guy... |
Octafish |
Jan-21-11 08:27 AM |
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Necessity IS the mother of invention. No Necessity, no invention. nt |
patrice |
Jan-21-11 06:13 PM |
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JFK took over after Eisenhower, not Bush |
Motown_Johnny |
Jan-20-11 11:37 PM |
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Perhaps it's about time he got started, then. |
Capitalocracy |
Jan-21-11 12:53 AM |
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Mess to clean up? He's forgiven the whole mess! |
Bluebear |
Jan-21-11 12:54 AM |
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+1 n/t |
MissDeeds |
Jan-21-11 08:36 AM |
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+2 nt. |
cyberpj |
Jan-21-11 12:07 PM |
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My POTUS Obama support and vote was for the best of FDR and JFK in a more serious and |
PufPuf23 |
Jan-21-11 12:00 AM |
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''I am anti-war, pro-Nature, and pro-humane dignity for all born.'' |
Octafish |
Jan-21-11 08:38 AM |
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Octafish. Your posts always inform and expand thought as in this response. |
PufPuf23 |
Jan-22-11 01:18 AM |
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There was never a more ferocious Cold Warrior & devoted friend of the "MIC"* than JFK. |
apocalypsehow |
Jan-21-11 12:09 AM |
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JFK opposed Dulles and Lemnitzer when they counseled all-out nuclear sneak attack on the USSR. |
Octafish |
Jan-21-11 10:51 AM |
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Non-responsive, and *distorted* non-responsiveness at that. JFK did no such thing, because neither |
apocalypsehow |
Jan-21-11 12:27 PM |
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Connect some dots, will ya? ''Kennedy favored negotiations over conflict.'' |
Octafish |
Jan-21-11 02:04 PM |
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More non-responsiveness. The "dots" of fact-based history have all been "connected" by legitimate |
apocalypsehow |
Jan-21-11 02:29 PM |
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"Kennedy was surrounded by hawks" - And quite by choice. It was JFK who appointed Curtis LeMay to |
apocalypsehow |
Jan-21-11 02:38 PM |
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And *still* waiting for a substantive, factual reply. I won't be holding my breath... |
apocalypsehow |
Jan-23-11 12:38 AM |
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Thank you for reminding me: Whatever happened to that "bibliography" you promised me? |
Octafish |
Jan-23-11 02:41 AM |
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More non-responsiveness, and further desperate attempts to change the subject. See #62 & #72 above, |
apocalypsehow |
Jan-23-11 01:34 PM |
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Kennedy ran for president on a militaristic, "missile gap" message |
Kolesar |
Jan-21-11 01:56 PM |
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ME..... |
FrenchieCat |
Jan-21-11 02:04 AM |
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There's nothing in the OP about race. But thanks for bringing it up |
leftstreet |
Jan-21-11 02:08 AM |
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Jan-21-11 02:16 AM |
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Jan-21-11 10:15 AM |
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??? Odd. OP is about an individual's expectations, so is FC's post. What gives? nt |
patrice |
Jan-21-11 06:22 PM |
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Yeah, you never walked with him anyway. |
cherokeeprogressive |
Jan-21-11 02:14 AM |
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undignified |
H2O Man |
Jan-21-11 08:14 AM |
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And offensive |
MissDeeds |
Jan-21-11 08:39 AM |
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you're being kind |
frylock |
Jan-21-11 02:56 PM |
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But consistent. |
Forkboy |
Jan-21-11 05:29 PM |
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You got that |
Ichingcarpenter |
Jan-22-11 08:29 AM |
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I hear what you're saying. |
elias49 |
Jan-21-11 09:14 AM |
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A President Like My Father |
Octafish |
Jan-22-11 11:45 AM |
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C'mon Frenchie. I am a woman of color who thinks this is really tacky. |
Tatiana |
Jan-21-11 09:19 AM |
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LOL |
RainDog |
Jan-21-11 11:13 PM |
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You know it. |
Bluebear |
Jan-23-11 11:50 PM |
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Thanks for explaining how you vote. n/t |
Catherina |
Jan-21-11 10:11 AM |
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You seem to be the only one here who cares what color he is |
tkmorris |
Jan-21-11 01:26 PM |
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Jan-21-11 02:58 PM |
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That took you 9 words to be irrelevant. |
Forkboy |
Jan-21-11 05:25 PM |
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is that ALL you think about? |
ima_sinnic |
Jan-21-11 07:09 PM |
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Jack was scared of the race problem IMHO |
Scruffy1 |
Jan-21-11 07:11 PM |
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JFK federalized the Alabama National Guard and opened up the University to African Americans. |
Octafish |
Jan-21-11 08:25 PM |
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Man... you do a good battle... JFK also |
Ichingcarpenter |
Jan-22-11 08:37 AM |
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what a telling post that was! n/t |
TK421 |
Jan-22-11 10:20 AM |
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If he was a JFK |
Ichingcarpenter |
Jan-21-11 08:00 AM |
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I cried too. I also cried happy tears when he nominated Associate Justice Sotomayor. |
Octafish |
Jan-21-11 11:00 AM |
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Yes, it is. |
mmonk |
Jan-21-11 08:13 AM |
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Obama’s Deregulation Dance with Wall Street |
Octafish |
Jan-21-11 11:13 AM |
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Thanks for the post and keep them coming. |
mmonk |
Jan-21-11 12:23 PM |
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ah yes, the US(Foreign Labor)Chamber of Commerce..... |
StarsInHerHair |
Jan-21-11 08:43 PM |
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Not me... |
affrayer |
Jan-21-11 08:24 AM |
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You are incorrectly projecting your idealism onto JFK |
Freddie Stubbs |
Jan-21-11 08:41 AM |
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Respectfully disagree. |
H2O Man |
Jan-21-11 08:51 AM |
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The same JFK who sent Marines to the Dominican Republic? |
Freddie Stubbs |
Jan-21-11 09:05 AM |
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Yes, that's him! |
H2O Man |
Jan-21-11 10:01 AM |
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Seems you dont like Democrats do you Freddie. nm |
rhett o rick |
Jan-21-11 10:29 PM |
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K&R. So did I. |
Overseas |
Jan-21-11 08:42 AM |
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Definitely recommended. |
H2O Man |
Jan-21-11 08:55 AM |
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I understand your post, I'm just confused as to your reasoning. |
newtothegame |
Jan-21-11 10:11 AM |
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Yeah. The label said ''Democrat.'' Those things mean ''Democrat.'' |
Octafish |
Jan-21-11 10:43 AM |
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Fair enough; but a JFK redo? That's even more of a stretch. nt |
newtothegame |
Jan-21-11 10:52 AM |
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I voted for |
ProSense |
Jan-21-11 10:24 AM |
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Jan-21-11 10:33 PM |
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Jan-22-11 11:57 AM |
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There was no other viable choice, my friend. |
hootinholler |
Jan-21-11 10:29 AM |
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Dean |
ProSense |
Jan-21-11 10:46 AM |
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Yawn.....Sorry but this is bullshit |
MadMaddie |
Jan-21-11 11:12 AM |
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Sorry you feel that way. |
Octafish |
Jan-22-11 09:24 AM |
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I voted for him and I got pretty much what I expected. |
MilesColtrane |
Jan-21-11 11:28 AM |
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Jan-21-11 01:31 PM |
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Capitalization would be a nice thing. eom |
Kolesar |
Jan-21-11 01:57 PM |
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RECOMMEND! |
Poboy |
Jan-21-11 01:57 PM |
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Jan-21-11 02:53 PM |
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LOL!!! |
Swamp Rat |
Jan-21-11 03:06 PM |
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MEEP! |
hootinholler |
Jan-23-11 01:41 AM |
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That just proves you were as naive as Caroline was. |
Beacool |
Jan-21-11 02:56 PM |
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oh please, she lost, get over it. |
iamthebandfanman |
Jan-21-11 05:09 PM |
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That's the whole point. |
Beacool |
Jan-21-11 08:24 PM |
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He wasn't--he just had vastly superior campaign organizers |
eridani |
Jan-21-11 09:09 PM |
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You obviously werent paying attention to what he was saying during the campaign.. |
DCBob |
Jan-21-11 03:02 PM |
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Quite possibly I was confused. |
Octafish |
Jan-22-11 09:37 AM |
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Maybe you should have just voted for Obama, and saved yourself the disillusionment...nt |
SidDithers |
Jan-21-11 03:03 PM |
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Jan-21-11 03:10 PM |
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i was hoping for a bobby kennedy.... |
madrchsod |
Jan-21-11 03:14 PM |
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Jan-21-11 04:29 PM |
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My theory about President Obama |
steve2470 |
Jan-21-11 03:17 PM |
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Then why didn't he just do "some" good the first 2 yrs, with Dem majorities? |
leftstreet |
Jan-21-11 05:26 PM |
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Good point. |
steve2470 |
Jan-21-11 06:00 PM |
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A lot of people thought this. I remember shedding a tear |
davidwparker |
Jan-21-11 03:29 PM |
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Those were remarkable moments -- filled with promise for peace and justice. |
Octafish |
Jan-22-11 09:11 AM |
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I truly thought it would be different too |
cbc5g |
Jan-21-11 03:47 PM |
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WHY do I get the feeling... |
ConservativeDemocrat |
Jan-21-11 04:08 PM |
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+20 |
Number23 |
Jan-21-11 09:40 PM |
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Which JFk are you refering to. The Cold War warrior or someone else? |
Kaleva |
Jan-21-11 04:09 PM |
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when i voted for mckinney i knew exactly ... |
Buenaventura |
Jan-21-11 04:28 PM |
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I didn't. I didn't think he'd be as right leaning but I knew he was a centrist. |
devilgrrl |
Jan-21-11 04:32 PM |
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Too bad... Others didn't make that mistake. Some people's eyes were opened by what happend to Dean. |
patrice |
Jan-21-11 05:02 PM |
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Well. You see what happened to JFK.... |
Butch350 |
Jan-21-11 05:20 PM |
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I never saw Obama as much more than a step up. |
Forkboy |
Jan-21-11 05:40 PM |
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K/R -- back later to fully read ... we need candidates who don't want to be |
defendandprotect |
Jan-21-11 05:45 PM |
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Couldn't agree more, I thought we would be returning |
sabrina 1 |
Jan-21-11 06:32 PM |
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He and the First Family rock! |
politicasista |
Jan-21-11 07:18 PM |
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When did TPTB turn Obama? |
Hotler |
Jan-21-11 07:23 PM |
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I knew he was no Kennedy... That's why I wanted Kucinich! |
RoccoR5955 |
Jan-21-11 07:37 PM |
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K&R. (nt) |
Kurovski |
Jan-21-11 07:49 PM |
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JFK was killed |
Rosa Luxemburg |
Jan-21-11 10:36 PM |
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Oh Puh-leese. Look at Kennedy's handling of the Bay of Pigs and escalating our presence in |
Pryderi |
Jan-21-11 11:11 PM |
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Actually we do know the history of JFK |
Ichingcarpenter |
Jan-22-11 09:32 AM |
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/ignored |
Pryderi |
Jan-22-11 09:41 AM |
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I was hoping for Abraham Lincoln. |
DCBob |
Jan-22-11 08:04 AM |
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Because JFK was a beacon for peace & justice? Try a history book..... |
RollWithIt |
Jan-22-11 09:40 AM |
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Thank you for the suggestion. I read about 20 books per year now... |
Octafish |
Jan-22-11 10:04 AM |
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I agree. |
H2O Man |
Jan-22-11 10:16 AM |
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Agreed..... when I first came to DU |
Ichingcarpenter |
Jan-22-11 10:47 AM |
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Oh, Snap! |
grahamhgreen |
Jan-22-11 11:13 AM |
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I voted for a less flawed candidate. |
mix |
Jan-22-11 11:00 AM |
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Yes, I've always thought that Blogspot blogs were the best source of news around. |
Arkana |
Jan-22-11 11:10 AM |
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I didn't. I knew Obama would be |
frogmarch |
Jan-22-11 11:17 AM |
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Sorry, but Obama made his policies clear and anyone who thought he was JFK |
McCamy Taylor |
Jan-23-11 01:53 AM |
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"The bill I sign must include the public option! I will roll back the Bush-era tax cuts!" |
Bluebear |
Jan-23-11 01:56 AM |
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To be honest I voted for him believing he would be Bill Clinton Part II and it seems |
deacon |
Jan-24-11 03:37 AM |
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Thanks for posting, Octafish. It's amazing, isn't it, how on what is supposed to be a progressive |
truth2power |
Jan-24-11 05:20 AM |
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Sorry I didn't catch this in time to recommend. |
robertpaulsen |
Jan-24-11 12:02 PM |
#155 |