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48. Poor Obama
I guess he didn't have any power over his appointments as well, eh?

As Barack Obama's opus, Team of Rivals, continues its rolling debut, the early reviews are in and the "critics" are full of praise for the cast:

"The new administration is off to a good start."
-- Senate Republican leader, Mitch McConnell.

"Superb ... the best of the Washington insiders ... this will be a valedictocracy -- rule by those who graduate first in their high school classes."
-- David Brooks, conservative New York Times columnist

"Virtually perfect ... "
-- Senator Joe Lieberman, former Democrat and John McCain's top surrogate in the 2008 campaign.

-- Karl Rove, "Bush's brain."

"I am gobsmacked by these appointments, most of which could just as easily have come from a President McCain ... this all but puts an end to the 16-month timetable for withdrawal from Iraq, the unconditional summits with dictators, and other foolishness that once emanated from the Obama campaign ... Clinton and Steinberg at State should be powerful voices for 'neo-liberalism' which is not so different in many respects from 'neo-conservativism.'"
-- Max Boot, neoconservative activist, former McCain staffer.

"I see them as being sort of center-right of the Democratic party."
-- James Baker, former Secretary of State and the man who led the theft of the 2000 election.

"Surprising continuity on foreign policy between President Bush's second term and the incoming administration ... certainly nothing that represents a drastic change in how Washington does business. The expectation is that Obama is set to continue the course set by Bush ... "
-- Michael Goldfarb of the neoconservative Weekly Standard.

"I certainly applaud many of the appointments ... "
-- Senator John McCain

"So far, so good."
-- Senator Lamar Alexander, senior Republican Congressional leader.

Hillary Clinton will be "outstanding" as Secretary of State
-- Henry Kissinger, war criminal

Rahm Emanuel is "a wise choice" in the role of Chief of Staff
-- Republican Senator Lindsey Graham, John McCain's best friend.

Obama's team shows "Our foreign policy is non-partisan."
-- Ed Rollins, top Republican strategist and Mike Huckabee's 2008 campaign manager

"The country will be in good hands."
-- Condoleezza Rice, George W. Bush's Secretary of State
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  -When I voted for Barack Obama in 2008, in a way, I thought I was voting for JFK. Octafish  Jan-20-11 10:58 PM   #0 
  - K&R That's a really amazing and scary article too.  Waiting For Everyman   Jan-20-11 11:10 PM   #1 
  - It's not an "article," it's shit someone posted on their blog.  TheWraith   Jan-21-11 12:35 AM   #13 
  - I disagree  hootinholler   Jan-21-11 10:38 AM   #50 
  - yup  subject   Jan-21-11 04:58 PM   #93 
  - i'm reading the book the Family, they own everyone..  sam sarrha   Jan-21-11 08:49 PM   #116 
  - No it's not.  pam4water   Jan-21-11 11:31 PM   #124 
  - Did I say "news"? Or was that your word? Are there no other kinds of articles?  Waiting For Everyman   Jan-22-11 02:49 AM   #126 
  - Every point made is sourced...  Octafish   Jan-21-11 07:55 AM   #21 
  - This is kind of an aside, but the other night I heard a show about the 'real'  gateley   Jan-20-11 11:14 PM   #2 
  - I'm kinda where you are on this.  Old and In the Way   Jan-21-11 12:13 AM   #12 
  - Rebuilding is the key word - I think we're beyond patching it up.  gateley   Jan-21-11 12:45 AM   #14 
  - Poor Obama  Oilwellian   Jan-21-11 10:29 AM   #48 
  - You're missing the point of the thread  Doctor_J   Jan-21-11 01:18 PM   #63 
  - TAHNK YOU! Truth be told!  rtassi   Jan-21-11 02:50 PM   #74 
  - In a way, I'm not buying it  lark   Jan-21-11 04:51 PM   #92 
  - I think Obama had no choice. No one would be able to fully supplant BushInc's global control  blm   Jan-21-11 01:30 PM   #65 
  - What if he didn't care about being reelected?  cyberpj   Jan-21-11 12:04 PM   #59 
     - I'm right where you are.  blm   Jan-21-11 01:32 PM   #67 
  - I'm a Democrat and I'm voting for Obama if he's on the ballot in 2012.  Octafish   Jan-21-11 08:03 AM   #23 
  - I think perhaps  frazzled   Jan-20-11 11:18 PM   #3 
  - +1. n/t.  apocalypsehow   Jan-21-11 12:10 AM   #11 
  - The Bay of Pigs was organized by Dulles and Lemnitzer for Eisenhower and Nixon.  Octafish   Jan-21-11 08:11 AM   #24 
     - Kennedy did not have to go through with the plan  frazzled   Jan-21-11 10:00 AM   #41 
     - True. But Dulles and Lemnitzer said the Cuban people would greet the liberators with flowers, etc.  Octafish   Jan-21-11 10:37 AM   #49 
     - The big problem with President Kennedy was that he did not learn  jwirr   Jan-21-11 06:51 PM   #106 
  - "cognitive infiltration of extremist groups,"  Agony   Jan-20-11 11:20 PM   #4 
  - Why would a constitutional scholar do that?  Octafish   Jan-21-11 08:16 AM   #27 
  - Quite often I thought he came from another planet  fadedrose   Jan-20-11 11:29 PM   #5 
  - When the Treasury can fork up trillions for Wall Street and zip for Main Street, we got a problem.  Octafish   Jan-21-11 08:22 AM   #28 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-20-11 11:29 PM   #6 
  - 'Senator, You're No Jack Kennedy' n/t  OhioChick   Jan-20-11 11:35 PM   #7 
  - That was this guy...  Octafish   Jan-21-11 08:27 AM   #30 
     - Necessity IS the mother of invention. No Necessity, no invention. nt  patrice   Jan-21-11 06:13 PM   #103 
  - JFK took over after Eisenhower, not Bush  Motown_Johnny   Jan-20-11 11:37 PM   #8 
  - Perhaps it's about time he got started, then.  Capitalocracy   Jan-21-11 12:53 AM   #15 
  - Mess to clean up? He's forgiven the whole mess!  Bluebear   Jan-21-11 12:54 AM   #16 
     - +1 n/t  MissDeeds   Jan-21-11 08:36 AM   #31 
     - +2 nt.  cyberpj   Jan-21-11 12:07 PM   #60 
  - My POTUS Obama support and vote was for the best of FDR and JFK in a more serious and  PufPuf23   Jan-21-11 12:00 AM   #9 
  - ''I am anti-war, pro-Nature, and pro-humane dignity for all born.''  Octafish   Jan-21-11 08:38 AM   #32 
     - Octafish. Your posts always inform and expand thought as in this response.  PufPuf23   Jan-22-11 01:18 AM   #125 
  - There was never a more ferocious Cold Warrior & devoted friend of the "MIC"* than JFK.  apocalypsehow   Jan-21-11 12:09 AM   #10 
  - JFK opposed Dulles and Lemnitzer when they counseled all-out nuclear sneak attack on the USSR.  Octafish   Jan-21-11 10:51 AM   #53 
  - Non-responsive, and *distorted* non-responsiveness at that. JFK did no such thing, because neither  apocalypsehow   Jan-21-11 12:27 PM   #62 
     - Connect some dots, will ya? ''Kennedy favored negotiations over conflict.''  Octafish   Jan-21-11 02:04 PM   #71 
        - More non-responsiveness. The "dots" of fact-based history have all been "connected" by legitimate  apocalypsehow   Jan-21-11 02:29 PM   #72 
        - "Kennedy was surrounded by hawks" - And quite by choice. It was JFK who appointed Curtis LeMay to  apocalypsehow   Jan-21-11 02:38 PM   #73 
        - And *still* waiting for a substantive, factual reply. I won't be holding my breath...  apocalypsehow   Jan-23-11 12:38 AM   #146 
           - Thank you for reminding me: Whatever happened to that "bibliography" you promised me?  Octafish   Jan-23-11 02:41 AM   #150 
              - More non-responsiveness, and further desperate attempts to change the subject. See #62 & #72 above,  apocalypsehow   Jan-23-11 01:34 PM   #151 
  - Kennedy ran for president on a militaristic, "missile gap" message  Kolesar   Jan-21-11 01:56 PM   #68 
  - ME.....  FrenchieCat   Jan-21-11 02:04 AM   #17 
  - There's nothing in the OP about race. But thanks for bringing it up  leftstreet   Jan-21-11 02:08 AM   #18 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-21-11 02:16 AM   #20 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Jan-21-11 10:15 AM   #45 
  - ??? Odd. OP is about an individual's expectations, so is FC's post. What gives? nt  patrice   Jan-21-11 06:22 PM   #104 
  - Yeah, you never walked with him anyway.  cherokeeprogressive   Jan-21-11 02:14 AM   #19 
  - undignified  H2O Man   Jan-21-11 08:14 AM   #26 
  - And offensive  MissDeeds   Jan-21-11 08:39 AM   #33 
  - you're being kind  frylock   Jan-21-11 02:56 PM   #76 
  - But consistent.  Forkboy   Jan-21-11 05:29 PM   #99 
     - You got that  Ichingcarpenter   Jan-22-11 08:29 AM   #128 
  - I hear what you're saying.  elias49   Jan-21-11 09:14 AM   #39 
  - A President Like My Father  Octafish   Jan-22-11 11:45 AM   #144 
  - C'mon Frenchie. I am a woman of color who thinks this is really tacky.  Tatiana   Jan-21-11 09:19 AM   #40 
  - LOL  RainDog   Jan-21-11 11:13 PM   #123 
     - You know it.  Bluebear   Jan-23-11 11:50 PM   #152 
  - Thanks for explaining how you vote. n/t  Catherina   Jan-21-11 10:11 AM   #43 
  - You seem to be the only one here who cares what color he is  tkmorris   Jan-21-11 01:26 PM   #64 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-21-11 02:58 PM   #78 
  - That took you 9 words to be irrelevant.  Forkboy   Jan-21-11 05:25 PM   #97 
  - is that ALL you think about?  ima_sinnic   Jan-21-11 07:09 PM   #107 
  - Jack was scared of the race problem IMHO  Scruffy1   Jan-21-11 07:11 PM   #108 
  - JFK federalized the Alabama National Guard and opened up the University to African Americans.  Octafish   Jan-21-11 08:25 PM   #114 
     - Man... you do a good battle... JFK also  Ichingcarpenter   Jan-22-11 08:37 AM   #129 
  - what a telling post that was! n/t  TK421   Jan-22-11 10:20 AM   #138 
  - If he was a JFK  Ichingcarpenter   Jan-21-11 08:00 AM   #22 
  - I cried too. I also cried happy tears when he nominated Associate Justice Sotomayor.  Octafish   Jan-21-11 11:00 AM   #55 
  - Yes, it is.  mmonk   Jan-21-11 08:13 AM   #25 
  - Obamas Deregulation Dance with Wall Street  Octafish   Jan-21-11 11:13 AM   #57 
     - Thanks for the post and keep them coming.  mmonk   Jan-21-11 12:23 PM   #61 
     - ah yes, the US(Foreign Labor)Chamber of Commerce.....  StarsInHerHair   Jan-21-11 08:43 PM   #115 
  - Not me...  affrayer   Jan-21-11 08:24 AM   #29 
  - You are incorrectly projecting your idealism onto JFK  Freddie Stubbs   Jan-21-11 08:41 AM   #34 
  - Respectfully disagree.  H2O Man   Jan-21-11 08:51 AM   #36 
     - The same JFK who sent Marines to the Dominican Republic?  Freddie Stubbs   Jan-21-11 09:05 AM   #38 
        - Yes, that's him!  H2O Man   Jan-21-11 10:01 AM   #42 
        - Seems you dont like Democrats do you Freddie. nm  rhett o rick   Jan-21-11 10:29 PM   #119 
  - K&R. So did I.  Overseas   Jan-21-11 08:42 AM   #35 
  - Definitely recommended.  H2O Man   Jan-21-11 08:55 AM   #37 
  - I understand your post, I'm just confused as to your reasoning.  newtothegame   Jan-21-11 10:11 AM   #44 
  - Yeah. The label said ''Democrat.'' Those things mean ''Democrat.''  Octafish   Jan-21-11 10:43 AM   #51 
     - Fair enough; but a JFK redo? That's even more of a stretch. nt  newtothegame   Jan-21-11 10:52 AM   #54 
  - I voted for  ProSense   Jan-21-11 10:24 AM   #46 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-21-11 10:33 PM   #120 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-22-11 11:57 AM   #145 
  - There was no other viable choice, my friend.  hootinholler   Jan-21-11 10:29 AM   #47 
  - Dean  ProSense   Jan-21-11 10:46 AM   #52 
  - Yawn.....Sorry but this is bullshit  MadMaddie   Jan-21-11 11:12 AM   #56 
  - Sorry you feel that way.  Octafish   Jan-22-11 09:24 AM   #131 
  - I voted for him and I got pretty much what I expected.  MilesColtrane   Jan-21-11 11:28 AM   #58 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-21-11 01:31 PM   #66 
  - Capitalization would be a nice thing. eom  Kolesar   Jan-21-11 01:57 PM   #69 
  - RECOMMEND!  Poboy   Jan-21-11 01:57 PM   #70 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-21-11 02:53 PM   #75 
  - LOL!!!  Swamp Rat   Jan-21-11 03:06 PM   #81 
     - MEEP!  hootinholler   Jan-23-11 01:41 AM   #147 
  - That just proves you were as naive as Caroline was.  Beacool   Jan-21-11 02:56 PM   #77 
  - oh please, she lost, get over it.  iamthebandfanman   Jan-21-11 05:09 PM   #95 
     - That's the whole point.  Beacool   Jan-21-11 08:24 PM   #113 
        - He wasn't--he just had vastly superior campaign organizers  eridani   Jan-21-11 09:09 PM   #117 
  - You obviously werent paying attention to what he was saying during the campaign..  DCBob   Jan-21-11 03:02 PM   #79 
  - Quite possibly I was confused.  Octafish   Jan-22-11 09:37 AM   #133 
  - Maybe you should have just voted for Obama, and saved yourself the disillusionment...nt  SidDithers   Jan-21-11 03:03 PM   #80 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-21-11 03:10 PM   #82 
  - i was hoping for a bobby kennedy....  madrchsod   Jan-21-11 03:14 PM   #83 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-21-11 04:29 PM   #90 
  - My theory about President Obama  steve2470   Jan-21-11 03:17 PM   #84 
  - Then why didn't he just do "some" good the first 2 yrs, with Dem majorities?  leftstreet   Jan-21-11 05:26 PM   #98 
     - Good point.  steve2470   Jan-21-11 06:00 PM   #102 
  - A lot of people thought this. I remember shedding a tear  davidwparker   Jan-21-11 03:29 PM   #85 
  - Those were remarkable moments -- filled with promise for peace and justice.  Octafish   Jan-22-11 09:11 AM   #130 
  - I truly thought it would be different too  cbc5g   Jan-21-11 03:47 PM   #86 
  - WHY do I get the feeling...  ConservativeDemocrat   Jan-21-11 04:08 PM   #87 
  - +20  Number23   Jan-21-11 09:40 PM   #118 
  - Which JFk are you refering to. The Cold War warrior or someone else?  Kaleva   Jan-21-11 04:09 PM   #88 
  - when i voted for mckinney i knew exactly ...  Buenaventura   Jan-21-11 04:28 PM   #89 
  - I didn't. I didn't think he'd be as right leaning but I knew he was a centrist.  devilgrrl   Jan-21-11 04:32 PM   #91 
  - Too bad... Others didn't make that mistake. Some people's eyes were opened by what happend to Dean.  patrice   Jan-21-11 05:02 PM   #94 
  - Well. You see what happened to JFK....  Butch350   Jan-21-11 05:20 PM   #96 
  - I never saw Obama as much more than a step up.  Forkboy   Jan-21-11 05:40 PM   #100 
  - K/R -- back later to fully read ... we need candidates who don't want to be  defendandprotect   Jan-21-11 05:45 PM   #101 
  - Couldn't agree more, I thought we would be returning  sabrina 1   Jan-21-11 06:32 PM   #105 
  - He and the First Family rock!  politicasista   Jan-21-11 07:18 PM   #109 
  - When did TPTB turn Obama?  Hotler   Jan-21-11 07:23 PM   #110 
  - I knew he was no Kennedy... That's why I wanted Kucinich!  RoccoR5955   Jan-21-11 07:37 PM   #111 
  - K&R. (nt)  Kurovski   Jan-21-11 07:49 PM   #112 
  - JFK was killed  Rosa Luxemburg   Jan-21-11 10:36 PM   #121 
  - Oh Puh-leese. Look at Kennedy's handling of the Bay of Pigs and escalating our presence in  Pryderi   Jan-21-11 11:11 PM   #122 
  - Actually we do know the history of JFK  Ichingcarpenter   Jan-22-11 09:32 AM   #132 
     - /ignored  Pryderi   Jan-22-11 09:41 AM   #135 
  - I was hoping for Abraham Lincoln.  DCBob   Jan-22-11 08:04 AM   #127 
  - Because JFK was a beacon for peace & justice? Try a history book.....  RollWithIt   Jan-22-11 09:40 AM   #134 
  - Thank you for the suggestion. I read about 20 books per year now...  Octafish   Jan-22-11 10:04 AM   #136 
     - I agree.  H2O Man   Jan-22-11 10:16 AM   #137 
     - Agreed..... when I first came to DU  Ichingcarpenter   Jan-22-11 10:47 AM   #139 
     - Oh, Snap!  grahamhgreen   Jan-22-11 11:13 AM   #142 
  - I voted for a less flawed candidate.  mix   Jan-22-11 11:00 AM   #140 
  - Yes, I've always thought that Blogspot blogs were the best source of news around.  Arkana   Jan-22-11 11:10 AM   #141 
  - I didn't. I knew Obama would be  frogmarch   Jan-22-11 11:17 AM   #143 
  - Sorry, but Obama made his policies clear and anyone who thought he was JFK  McCamy Taylor   Jan-23-11 01:53 AM   #148 
  - "The bill I sign must include the public option! I will roll back the Bush-era tax cuts!"  Bluebear   Jan-23-11 01:56 AM   #149 
  - To be honest I voted for him believing he would be Bill Clinton Part II and it seems  deacon   Jan-24-11 03:37 AM   #153 
  - Thanks for posting, Octafish. It's amazing, isn't it, how on what is supposed to be a progressive  truth2power   Jan-24-11 05:20 AM   #154 
  - Sorry I didn't catch this in time to recommend.  robertpaulsen   Jan-24-11 12:02 PM   #155 

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