Major Nikon
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Mon Nov-28-11 08:52 AM
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Or perhaps he just pretended to buy it in order to try to extort money from the clinic. Obviously one of the two sides of that story is not telling the truth, but that's what civil trials are for.
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| -Dad: Twins came from stolen sperm |
alp227 |
Nov-27-11 07:35 PM |
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the strangest thing is |
Skittles |
Nov-27-11 07:36 PM |
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+1! |
Rhiannon12866 |
Nov-27-11 07:41 PM |
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She doesn't sound like the brightest bulb on the tree |
Major Nikon |
Nov-27-11 08:12 PM |
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Revenge Fertility - she is wacked in the head |
FreakinDJ |
Nov-27-11 08:27 PM |
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she's loco, for sure |
Skittles |
Nov-27-11 09:06 PM |
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So those weren't vanilla Popsicles in the freezer? |
TheCowsCameHome |
Nov-27-11 07:42 PM |
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Possession is 9/10th of the law. |
itsrobert |
Nov-27-11 07:44 PM |
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Hmmm. So should he get custody and child support in this case? OR |
The Straight Story |
Nov-27-11 07:44 PM |
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Since when do insurance companies allow you to put your |
Angry Dragon |
Nov-27-11 07:47 PM |
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I am not sure of ALL of the companies |
Horse with no Name |
Nov-27-11 08:29 PM |
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As consensual sex implies a freely given donation, |
musette_sf |
Nov-27-11 07:50 PM |
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I'm actually inclined to agree with you |
Warren DeMontague |
Nov-27-11 07:51 PM |
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But he made his deposit into a condom |
Duer 157099 |
Nov-27-11 08:11 PM |
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But that wouldn't be in the best interests of the children. |
Lyric |
Nov-27-11 09:28 PM |
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I understand. But play along with this thought experiment |
Duer 157099 |
Nov-27-11 09:51 PM |
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Both parents would be financially liable for the child, who is blameless. |
Lyric |
Nov-28-11 08:14 AM |
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Maybe the clinic should have to pay the father's share of support |
muriel_volestrangler |
Nov-29-11 05:09 AM |
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Wouldn't the best interests of the children be served... |
lumberjack_jeff |
Nov-27-11 10:53 PM |
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That's my argument against "best interests of the child," too |
Yupster |
Nov-28-11 09:22 AM |
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They won't pay for their own kids. But they'll pay into a government fund? |
Pithlet |
Nov-28-11 09:42 AM |
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If a DNA test proves he's the father, why not? |
Bunny |
Nov-28-11 11:42 AM |
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Why is DNA similarity relevant to the best interests of the child? n/t |
lumberjack_jeff |
Nov-28-11 11:46 AM |
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Well, that's too stupid to respond to. |
Bunny |
Nov-28-11 11:48 AM |
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But the best interests of the child trumps fairness! |
lumberjack_jeff |
Nov-28-11 11:52 AM |
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Yeah, because fuck the interest of kids! n/t |
Pithlet |
Nov-28-11 12:17 PM |
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Because they have no say in how they came to be, that's why. |
Pithlet |
Nov-28-11 12:32 PM |
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You know, anti-choicers make this kind of "argument" all the time. They just change the terms. n/t. |
apocalypsehow |
Nov-28-11 08:13 PM |
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Well, I don't know about you, but there's a good reason I'm not an anti-choicer. |
Pithlet |
Nov-29-11 03:06 PM |
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+1 |
jberryhill |
Nov-28-11 08:13 PM |
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Fuck that. |
Codeine |
Nov-28-11 09:20 AM |
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Completely disagree. |
closeupready |
Nov-28-11 09:29 AM |
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Nov-28-11 11:21 AM |
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You know, anti-choicers make this kind of "argument" all the time. They just change the terms. n/t. |
apocalypsehow |
Nov-28-11 08:12 PM |
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You know, anti-choicers are talking about ova, zygotes, embryos, and fetuses. |
Gormy Cuss |
Nov-29-11 12:59 PM |
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You know, anti-choicers believe they're talking about children, too. The logic is identical. |
apocalypsehow |
Nov-29-11 02:50 PM |
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And some children believe in Santa. What are you going to do? |
Pithlet |
Nov-29-11 03:18 PM |
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The key difference is that I do not need to validate the anti-choicer illogic. |
Gormy Cuss |
Nov-29-11 11:24 PM |
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There is no "key difference": the "illogic" is the same. The rest is just wordy non-responsiveness. |
apocalypsehow |
Nov-30-11 01:20 PM |
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Best interest of the kids? |
Wait Wut |
Nov-29-11 01:22 PM |
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I agree... if it happened as he says it did, he was practicing birth control |
Blasphemer |
Nov-28-11 10:30 AM |
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Practicing birth control is no 100% guarantee that a pregnancy will not occur |
jberryhill |
Nov-28-11 11:25 AM |
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I would agree under normal circumstances |
Blasphemer |
Nov-28-11 03:27 PM |
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I don't have a hard time with the fraud aspect |
jberryhill |
Nov-28-11 03:33 PM |
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I agree. Sue the clinic for their negligence if there were any way possible his story was true |
Pithlet |
Nov-28-11 08:11 PM |
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I knew the stories, and used to be so paranoid that |
Blue_Tires |
Nov-28-11 10:48 AM |
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*Supposedly* she did. |
musette_sf |
Nov-28-11 02:14 PM |
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Oh come on, if it actually went down as he claims, he isn't being "whiny" for no reason... |
octothorpe |
Nov-28-11 12:19 AM |
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Chances that "it actually went down as he claims" |
musette_sf |
Nov-28-11 02:17 PM |
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Exactly |
Dorian Gray |
Nov-29-11 06:05 AM |
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he gave his sperm to the condom, not to her. |
provis99 |
Nov-28-11 12:26 AM |
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What if she bought the condom? |
JoePhilly |
Nov-28-11 09:29 AM |
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Then she and Mr. condom are parents? |
ChairmanAgnostic |
Nov-28-11 09:10 PM |
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Consensual congress implies donation by consent. |
musette_sf |
Nov-28-11 02:21 PM |
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no, it doesnt. |
provis99 |
Nov-28-11 08:02 PM |
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"prejudices"? |
musette_sf |
Nov-28-11 08:22 PM |
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Nov-29-11 12:58 AM |
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Wrong. The whole bit about her duping him with a condom his his story. |
Pithlet |
Nov-29-11 09:08 AM |
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Um, it is NOT "the woman's story". |
musette_sf |
Nov-29-11 12:53 PM |
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Quote that to us in the statutory code somewhere, please. Any random state or the Federal code will |
apocalypsehow |
Nov-28-11 08:15 PM |
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see reply to the other "legal beagle": |
musette_sf |
Nov-28-11 08:26 PM |
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So, you got no cite to any statutory code or law, just another post long on snark and nada on facts. |
apocalypsehow |
Nov-28-11 08:33 PM |
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So cite me some code or established precedent in law |
musette_sf |
Nov-28-11 09:04 PM |
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"foamy wake" |
TorchTheWitch |
Nov-28-11 09:46 PM |
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This is one of the best posts I've ever seen here. |
Warren DeMontague |
Nov-28-11 11:36 PM |
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As a member of the waning years of the Era of Euphemism, |
musette_sf |
Nov-29-11 06:17 PM |
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I continue to ask you to provide proof for you assertion: you continue to be unable to provide it. |
apocalypsehow |
Nov-29-11 02:46 PM |
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I'm just using common sense. |
musette_sf |
Nov-29-11 05:02 PM |
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No, you're making assertions about the law which you are then uable to back up with facts. n/t. |
apocalypsehow |
Nov-30-11 01:07 PM |
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Just in case it's slipped your mind here is the assertion you continue to fail to provide proof for: |
apocalypsehow |
Nov-29-11 02:58 PM |
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There's a reason men keep losing these court cases. |
Pithlet |
Nov-29-11 03:09 PM |
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As YOU are the person attempting to assert |
musette_sf |
Nov-29-11 05:11 PM |
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As YOU are the person who made the original claim as to law, the burden in YOU to provide a cite or |
apocalypsehow |
Nov-30-11 01:13 PM |
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There is a lot of this going on at the Super 8 on the Katy Freeway. |
Schema Thing |
Nov-27-11 08:06 PM |
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Jesus |
Warren DeMontague |
Nov-27-11 08:07 PM |
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....and wring them out into a test tube? |
Schema Thing |
Nov-27-11 09:02 PM |
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nah |
musette_sf |
Nov-28-11 09:08 PM |
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If his allegations are true, it's fraud on her part |
Major Nikon |
Nov-27-11 08:10 PM |
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why would this woman want kids from this troll in the first place? |
provis99 |
Nov-27-11 08:28 PM |
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It seems he has a good paying job |
Angry Dragon |
Nov-27-11 08:35 PM |
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This should be easy to settle |
tammywammy |
Nov-27-11 08:31 PM |
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An easier track would be for him to explain how they got his blood sample |
Major Nikon |
Nov-27-11 09:23 PM |
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The clinic will be fined for fraud |
Yupster |
Nov-28-11 09:23 AM |
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There is actually more to this story.... |
aaaaaa5a |
Nov-27-11 09:42 PM |
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From the story |
lumberjack_jeff |
Nov-27-11 10:49 PM |
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+1 |
treestar |
Nov-28-11 10:19 AM |
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So... He is ok with pre-marital sex but not a fertility clinic? |
Ohio Joe |
Nov-27-11 09:55 PM |
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They all have their hypocrites. |
xfundy |
Nov-27-11 10:51 PM |
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I imagine hypocrites make up the majority of the human population |
LanternWaste |
Nov-28-11 12:11 PM |
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Maybe he's not okay with being a dad. Isn't that acceptable? n/t |
lumberjack_jeff |
Nov-27-11 10:52 PM |
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Yeah but... |
Ohio Joe |
Nov-27-11 10:59 PM |
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Then he shouldn't have sex if that's the way he feels. |
liberalhistorian |
Nov-28-11 09:10 AM |
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Let me get this straight. |
lumberjack_jeff |
Nov-28-11 10:25 AM |
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Basically yes, if you have sex, you accept |
liberalhistorian |
Nov-28-11 10:33 AM |
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Multiple security steps? |
lumberjack_jeff |
Nov-28-11 11:18 AM |
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Back when they had only four channels on TV I used to watch a preacher man shout and wave his arms |
apocalypsehow |
Nov-28-11 08:31 PM |
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+ like, millions... |
sibelian |
Nov-29-11 01:46 PM |
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That's a really interesting view |
Pithlet |
Nov-29-11 03:25 PM |
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It would be, if anyone had expressed any such view. As they have not, one assumes you started a |
apocalypsehow |
Nov-30-11 01:17 PM |
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It's odd how women can do whatever they want responsibility wise, but men are always on the hook. |
originalpckelly |
Nov-28-11 11:23 AM |
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Gee. I want to live in that world where women can do whatever they want! |
Pithlet |
Nov-28-11 11:28 AM |
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The One Where You Do What You Want |
NeedleCast |
Nov-28-11 08:47 AM |
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So who made the withdrawal if he didn't ....a succubus |
Historic NY |
Nov-27-11 10:37 PM |
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I don't get it. How could his girlfriend "steal" his sperm if not without his consent |
WildNovember |
Nov-28-11 12:21 AM |
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This story is novel only in that IVF was involved. |
lumberjack_jeff |
Nov-28-11 11:32 AM |
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What a phony story. Once you read the whole article, it's obvious the guy is lying.Those poor kids |
Liquorice |
Nov-28-11 12:35 AM |
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It's completely ridiculous. |
Pithlet |
Nov-28-11 08:41 AM |
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His lawyer bought it |
Major Nikon |
Nov-28-11 08:52 AM |
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Who says his lawyer believes him? |
Pithlet |
Nov-28-11 08:55 AM |
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That's why I said his lawyer could be trying to extort money out of the clinic |
Major Nikon |
Nov-28-11 09:19 AM |
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It's not very possible. |
Pithlet |
Nov-28-11 09:37 AM |
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The lawyer thinks he can get a jury to agree with it |
treestar |
Nov-28-11 10:21 AM |
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We'll see. Bookmarking. |
lumberjack_jeff |
Nov-28-11 10:30 AM |
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Perfectly fine by me n/t |
Pithlet |
Nov-28-11 10:33 AM |
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+1 |
redqueen |
Nov-28-11 02:25 PM |
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How did the clinic get his blood? |
AngryAmish |
Nov-28-11 08:37 AM |
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That's probably where the case is going to hinge |
Major Nikon |
Nov-28-11 10:26 AM |
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It'd be easy enough. |
lumberjack_jeff |
Nov-28-11 10:29 AM |
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Yet another step in the deception. My, my, my. |
Pithlet |
Nov-28-11 10:34 AM |
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She obtained post-breakup IVF from a clinic which he's never step foot in. |
lumberjack_jeff |
Nov-28-11 11:14 AM |
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You seem to be accepting an awful lot of fact unquestioningly |
Pithlet |
Nov-28-11 11:17 AM |
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The evidence that he never stepped foot in the clinic are the statements of the clinic director. |
lumberjack_jeff |
Nov-28-11 11:20 AM |
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No it isn't. |
Pithlet |
Nov-28-11 11:21 AM |
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The difference is lawyer-ese. |
lumberjack_jeff |
Nov-28-11 11:28 AM |
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Yep. Those sneaky laywers. Thanks for making my point for me. |
Pithlet |
Nov-28-11 11:33 AM |
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Except for your chart, the appointment book and the fact that your Dr knows you, I suppose so. |
lumberjack_jeff |
Nov-28-11 11:35 AM |
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I didn't sign that chart and appointment book! And the Dr is lying! |
Pithlet |
Nov-28-11 11:37 AM |
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No one says the fertility doctor is lying. |
lumberjack_jeff |
Nov-28-11 11:44 AM |
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The law suit is against the fertility clinic. |
Pithlet |
Nov-28-11 11:45 AM |
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If they can't prove they've ever spoken to the guy, then they should lose. |
lumberjack_jeff |
Nov-28-11 11:50 AM |
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There is conflicting information in the story. |
Pithlet |
Nov-28-11 11:54 AM |
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No they didn't. |
lumberjack_jeff |
Nov-28-11 12:01 PM |
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It was his insurance used. With his credit cards. |
Pithlet |
Nov-28-11 12:04 PM |
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Your Spy Vs. Spy scenario is becoming |
LanternWaste |
Nov-28-11 12:14 PM |
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I wouldn't bother any longer with |
liberalhistorian |
Nov-28-11 04:38 PM |
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I know, I'm quite familiar. |
Pithlet |
Nov-28-11 08:04 PM |
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Oh, OK |
sibelian |
Nov-29-11 01:50 PM |
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No. |
Pithlet |
Nov-29-11 02:14 PM |
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Goodness only knows. |
sibelian |
Nov-29-11 02:16 PM |
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Well. Alrighty then n/t |
Pithlet |
Nov-29-11 02:17 PM |
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This sounds like a scene from "Legally Blonde". |
JoePhilly |
Nov-28-11 09:34 AM |
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LOL, I know. Lots of heat and light, little of substance upstairs. |
closeupready |
Nov-29-11 02:49 PM |
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I feel sorry for the twins having these two as parents. |
roamer65 |
Nov-28-11 11:03 AM |
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He spilt his "issue", then let her run off with it. Watch where your "issue" goes, fellas. n/t |
LeftinOH |
Nov-28-11 12:20 PM |
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And if you don't want children, GET A VASECTOMY! |
Karenina |
Nov-28-11 03:23 PM |
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I do not shun women, Mandrake, but I do deny them my essence |
jberryhill |
Nov-28-11 03:36 PM |
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It would have been a heck of a lot easier for her to put holes in the condom. |
Avalux |
Nov-29-11 01:44 PM |
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She needed IVF to conceive. |
lumberjack_jeff |
Nov-29-11 05:47 PM |
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From the NY post |
lumberjack_jeff |
Nov-29-11 06:04 PM |
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Interesting details n/t |
tammywammy |
Nov-29-11 11:46 PM |
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Sorry. |
Pithlet |
Nov-29-11 11:59 PM |
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"I'm not going to talk about that" is her defense. |
lumberjack_jeff |
Nov-30-11 10:04 AM |
#147 |
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so where did the blood sample come from?? |
Blue_Tires |
Nov-30-11 01:21 PM |
#152 |
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