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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 02:10 PM
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122. Here is my fool proof plan for messing with the corporatew poster. Figure out which industry
he represents. This is usually extremely easy. Then, ignore his attempts to derail the thread. Instead, start posting lots of information about how his company/party/self (occasionally people do this for themselves) has been naughty. Add enough factual information to the thread that makes his employer look bad enough and he will stop posting, because he will not want to keep the thread kicked. I have used this numerous times and it always works.

Never ever accuse someone directly of being paid, because they can use this to get the thread locked and tombstoned.
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  -Fake forum commenters 'eroding' trust in the web - BBC sixmile  Nov-26-11 02:38 PM   #0 
  - Describing them as "people" is rather misleading.  TheWraith   Nov-26-11 02:41 PM   #1 
  - Ever debated a Troll?  sixmile   Nov-26-11 02:51 PM   #3 
     - Yeah, but obfuscating stupidity is different from paid astroturf. ;) nt  TheWraith   Nov-26-11 03:36 PM   #12 
        - I've seen a lot of really nasty ones on YouTube who sound like they could be Establishment shills...  AverageJoe90   Nov-27-11 11:01 PM   #179 
  - I'm not worried. They'll try to automate it so as not to have to pay people  annabanana   Nov-26-11 02:41 PM   #2 
  - Commercials should be clearly labeled as such. nt  woo me with science   Nov-26-11 02:51 PM   #4 
  - All your comment  Jackpine Radical   Nov-27-11 02:15 PM   #127 
  - How many fake forum commenting agents provocateurs does the BBC and other powers-that-be employ  phasma ex machina   Nov-26-11 02:57 PM   #5 
  - As many red herrings as grow in the wood.  Donald Ian Rankin   Nov-27-11 10:27 AM   #63 
  - I think the vast majority are GOP paid operatives.  DCBob   Nov-26-11 03:01 PM   #6 
  - If I managed a Marketing/PR firm For Corporate/Wall Street America,  bvar22   Nov-26-11 03:25 PM   #9 
  - If I were the GOP, and controlled the media,  Robb   Nov-26-11 03:33 PM   #11 
  - Help me out here.  bvar22   Nov-26-11 03:39 PM   #13 
  - How do you define "Alternative Media," exactly?  Robb   Nov-26-11 03:43 PM   #14 
  - Robb...Come On...Alternative Media is now many sites banned on DU...  KoKo   Nov-26-11 08:20 PM   #28 
  - How do we learn which sites are banned afrom mentioning (?) on D.U.?  Mimosa   Nov-27-11 10:21 AM   #61 
     - It's for "Some to Know" and "You and Me" not to know....???  KoKo   Nov-27-11 07:37 PM   #167 
     - I know of 2 ultra-right-wing sites that are forbidden to mention here.  Quantess   Nov-28-11 04:40 AM   #187 
        - Thanks, I found them.  Mimosa   Nov-28-11 10:08 AM   #199 
  - Evasion. You know he's right. nt  caseymoz   Nov-27-11 12:35 PM   #84 
  - Alternative media is not paid for by advertising or corporations. What's so hard about that?  saras   Nov-27-11 04:59 PM   #165 
     - There is no such beast.  Robb   Nov-28-11 03:50 PM   #201 
  - "I have to search the Alternative Media to find any commentators from The Left."  phasma ex machina   Nov-26-11 03:59 PM   #16 
  - Wait - you were serious, then ?  muriel_volestrangler   Nov-26-11 07:44 PM   #27 
  - Oh, me too. Please.  Laelth   Nov-27-11 11:39 AM   #80 
  - +1...nt  SidDithers   Nov-26-11 03:50 PM   #15 
  - we know how you feel about many of us  CreekDog   Nov-26-11 10:27 PM   #37 
  - I should think a person paid to post by the GOP  JDPriestly   Nov-27-11 11:32 AM   #77 
  - 1+++  patrice   Nov-27-11 12:52 PM   #88 
  - So why are so many "centrist" commenters such condescending assholes?  ZenaD   Nov-27-11 01:29 PM   #100 
  - They already do that. The only 'democrats' I ever see on the MSM  sabrina 1   Nov-27-11 01:35 PM   #105 
  - Your posts consistently  Enthusiast   Nov-27-11 02:13 PM   #125 
  - We have two kinds of media, Republican and establishment (whomever the establishment  No Elephants   Nov-28-11 04:24 AM   #184 
  - 'divisive commentators on the left '  Rex   Nov-27-11 02:44 PM   #140 
     - I'd like them to identify one with a following in numbers that would have any impact on an election  ZenaD   Nov-27-11 04:03 PM   #161 
        - It was rhetorical.  Rex   Nov-27-11 04:31 PM   #163 
  - Isn't that what the DLC was designed to do? nt  Lucky Luciano   Nov-26-11 10:40 PM   #43 
  - No. It was to neuter the Democratic Party.  No Elephants   Nov-28-11 04:29 AM   #185 
  - I strongly disagree.  JNelson6563   Nov-27-11 10:03 AM   #54 
  - Yep, "divide and conquer"  GoCubsGo   Nov-27-11 11:07 AM   #67 
  - But for your theory to work  hulka38   Nov-27-11 12:33 PM   #83 
  - "Lifelong Dems"  JNelson6563   Nov-27-11 01:25 PM   #97 
  - "real grown ups in the big campaigns" huh?  ZenaD   Nov-27-11 01:42 PM   #109 
  - Ther gaping hole in your rebuttal is that...  bvar22   Nov-27-11 02:58 PM   #147 
  - Excellent post, thank you.  sabrina 1   Nov-27-11 03:48 PM   #154 
  - Paul Krugman, who was their BFF during the health care debate is now UTB  ZenaD   Nov-27-11 03:52 PM   #158 
  - Whaddaya tryin' to do? Kill a meme?  No Elephants   Nov-28-11 04:37 AM   #186 
  - Yeah, those "real grown-ups" here in Michigan sure promoted our last candidate. NOT.  PassingFair   Nov-27-11 10:54 PM   #178 
  - Just because they are informed doesn't me they're immune to discouragement.  GoCubsGo   Nov-27-11 01:29 PM   #99 
  - + a brazillion  ZenaD   Nov-27-11 01:32 PM   #102 
  - Re "beholden", yeah, and We the People had absolutely nothing to do with the Dem's(or anyone-else's)  patrice   Nov-27-11 02:18 PM   #129 
  - This is a damn good post.  Enthusiast   Nov-27-11 02:24 PM   #131 
  - "...Work(ing) to co-opt..." can also result in being co-opted, another reason that it is avoided. It  patrice   Nov-27-11 01:01 PM   #89 
  - Wow, if only the WH, DNC, DSCC, DCCC etc  ZenaD   Nov-27-11 01:37 PM   #106 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-27-11 01:43 PM   #110 
     - I'm not a believer in supernatural phenomena  ZenaD   Nov-27-11 01:51 PM   #116 
  - So, can you give us some examples of these 'patterns' you see  sabrina 1   Nov-27-11 01:45 PM   #112 
  - Thank you. This is classic projection.  ZenaD   Nov-27-11 01:54 PM   #117 
  - Woo hooo!  Enthusiast   Nov-27-11 02:40 PM   #139 
     - "Party of Wall Street"  No Elephants   Nov-28-11 05:09 AM   #191 
  - Offering certain alternatives violates DU rules.  No Elephants   Nov-28-11 05:06 AM   #190 
  - That appears to be the M.O., BVar. n/t  Mimosa   Nov-27-11 10:11 AM   #57 
  - bvar22, it appears your strategy has been successfully employed.  Laelth   Nov-27-11 11:35 AM   #78 
  - Yeah. Relentlessly promote core GOP ideology under the "big tent" meme.  Zorra   Nov-27-11 11:38 AM   #79 
  - I agree with you, Bvar22. n/t  Blue_In_AK   Nov-27-11 01:08 PM   #91 
  - That's what I would do also. Infiltrate the party.  sabrina 1   Nov-27-11 01:32 PM   #103 
  - I really wish the DLC crowd would go back to the GOP where they belong  ZenaD   Nov-27-11 04:48 PM   #164 
  - Looks like you smoked a few out  Union Scribe   Nov-27-11 01:32 PM   #104 
  - Interesting video  No Elephants   Nov-28-11 05:05 AM   #189 
  - + 1,000  SpiralHawk   Nov-26-11 09:31 PM   #35 
  - Remember the clumsy anti-Tibet posts from new, low count posters right before the 2008 Olympics?  CreekDog   Nov-26-11 10:31 PM   #40 
  - It's painfully obvious this is true in responses to news articles posted at RoadRunner.  Pacifist Patriot   Nov-27-11 06:26 AM   #52 
  - I agree.  Rex   Nov-27-11 02:47 PM   #142 
  - Remember all the "fake commentators" on DU during the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear disaster?  lutefisk   Nov-26-11 03:12 PM   #7 
  - yup  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-26-11 03:14 PM   #8 
  - Watch the Iran commenters across the interwebs  sixmile   Nov-26-11 03:25 PM   #10 
  - They stand out like a sore thumb as do Chinese commenters.  snagglepuss   Nov-26-11 07:02 PM   #24 
  - I'd be especially wary of those fervently defending the government and/or bashing Israel....  AverageJoe90   Nov-27-11 11:03 PM   #180 
  - You meant THESE posts?  bvar22   Nov-26-11 05:18 PM   #18 
     - LOL You've summed them up in a nutshell  MichaelMcGuire   Nov-26-11 05:26 PM   #20 
     - 'However, fakes can be spotted by analysing their patterns of activity and the words they use ...  GeorgeGist   Nov-27-11 10:04 AM   #55 
     - And I'm wondering about the deadly exploding batteries in the  Sal Minella   Nov-26-11 05:55 PM   #22 
     - Or big phama. A few lurk regularly in the health forum  Lorien   Nov-27-11 11:13 AM   #69 
     - I've got some facebook friends who are pro-nuke zealots  ZenaD   Nov-27-11 01:58 PM   #120 
     - THAT'S THE ONES!  Rex   Nov-27-11 02:49 PM   #143 
  - They've swooped in destroyed Huffington Post... n/t  taught_me_patience   Nov-26-11 04:00 PM   #17 
  - Have you been over to "TPM's site recently?  KoKo   Nov-26-11 07:18 PM   #26 
  - HuffPo destroyed itself with fluff and woo.  Odin2005   Nov-26-11 08:46 PM   #32 
     - By selling out to AOL and not paying their writers. That was BS and made  cui bono   Nov-26-11 10:27 PM   #38 
     - True, but the paid trolls had already crapped the place up.  GoCubsGo   Nov-27-11 11:01 AM   #66 
     - Point taken!  Odin2005   Nov-27-11 01:19 PM   #92 
     - +1  No Elephants   Nov-28-11 05:00 AM   #188 
  - The bbc pretty much shuts off comment from their site anyway  MichaelMcGuire   Nov-26-11 05:24 PM   #19 
  - The 1% have LOTS of money to pay for this sort of thing, and I guarantee  kestrel91316   Nov-26-11 05:29 PM   #21 
  - .  fascisthunter   Nov-26-11 06:12 PM   #23 
  - Yep. And their main objective is to stop OWS. There are no other threats  Zorra   Nov-26-11 09:07 PM   #33 
     - I agree with you.  Enthusiast   Nov-27-11 02:51 PM   #145 
     - "They have no message."  bvar22   Nov-27-11 03:32 PM   #151 
  - Oh these "Bots" are all over the web on the most respectable of sites which one would  KoKo   Nov-26-11 07:16 PM   #25 
  - Gee, that doesn't sound like anyone here.  eShirl   Nov-26-11 08:29 PM   #29 
  - I think this thread if just fucking hilarious..  Fumesucker   Nov-26-11 08:39 PM   #30 
  - We have a bunch of them here bashing Progressives.  Odin2005   Nov-26-11 08:43 PM   #31 
  - Oh please...  ellisonz   Nov-26-11 09:59 PM   #36 
  - Really? Really.....  DainBramaged   Nov-26-11 10:31 PM   #41 
  - Somebody get this guy a helmet...  ellisonz   Nov-26-11 10:40 PM   #44 
  - Go back to sleep...............  DainBramaged   Nov-27-11 03:27 AM   #45 
  - I can't remember what the topic was now  JanMichael   Nov-27-11 06:03 AM   #50 
     - HFCS is big money, a major industry.  Mimosa   Nov-27-11 10:16 AM   #58 
        - I'll bet they succeed too.. and if by some miracle they don't win  russspeakeasy   Nov-27-11 11:18 AM   #73 
           - It gets discouraging when they succeed at everything.  Enthusiast   Nov-27-11 03:05 PM   #150 
  - There isn't?  Enthusiast   Nov-27-11 02:55 PM   #146 
  - +1  cui bono   Nov-26-11 10:30 PM   #39 
  - Yes, the Democratic party. Do you really think that pro-Obama posters are out of line  muriel_volestrangler   Nov-27-11 04:51 AM   #46 
  - Obama is solidly in the mainstream of the Democratic party - Sadly, This may be true  panzerfaust   Nov-27-11 06:03 AM   #49 
  - Support of those issues would mean the democratic party offers a genuine alternative. n/t  Mimosa   Nov-27-11 10:17 AM   #59 
     - "A genuine alternative" is undesirable to financial markets; and the golden rule prevails.  No Elephants   Nov-28-11 05:23 AM   #192 
  - The Democratic Party used to support "rights",  bvar22   Nov-27-11 11:13 AM   #70 
  - Free trade and austerity are mainstream Dem positions?  ZenaD   Nov-27-11 02:12 PM   #124 
  - Americans, especially Democratic Party Americans, HATE  Enthusiast   Nov-27-11 03:47 PM   #153 
  - You missed the memo!  a simple pattern   Nov-27-11 10:19 AM   #60 
  - How do you differentiate between "bashing" and horizontal processing? nt  patrice   Nov-27-11 01:25 PM   #96 
  - LOL, WUT?  Odin2005   Nov-27-11 01:40 PM   #108 
     - Horizontal, as in Occupation general assemblies, which include occupiers who disagree with one  patrice   Nov-27-11 01:47 PM   #113 
  - Fucking kidding?  bluestate10   Nov-27-11 06:29 PM   #166 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Nov-26-11 09:12 PM   #34 
  - Go to any article on any mainstream newspaper or news site...  backscatter712   Nov-26-11 10:38 PM   #42 
  - I noticed that, backscatter712  a simple pattern   Nov-27-11 10:24 AM   #62 
  - Right here in River City  Jim Warren   Nov-27-11 04:54 AM   #47 
  - ??? The significance of this remark escapes me  panzerfaust   Nov-27-11 06:08 AM   #51 
     - DU must be designed wrong.  patrice   Nov-27-11 01:23 PM   #95 
  - Information provided by random, unknown persons is not to be trusted??  panzerfaust   Nov-27-11 05:49 AM   #48 
  - It's esp. obvious on smaller blogs when there are virtually NO comments on post after post,  snot   Nov-27-11 09:21 AM   #53 
  - Don't they mean bought and paid for right wing posters.  sarcasmo   Nov-27-11 10:06 AM   #56 
  - Paid posters should be required to disclose the fact. It's advertising, disguised as speech.  DirkGently   Nov-27-11 10:45 AM   #64 
  - Agreed. Instead one dare not even ask the question  Lorien   Nov-27-11 11:15 AM   #72 
  - That's one of the best ideas that I have heard on the subject.  Response   Nov-27-11 12:48 PM   #87 
  - I've often wondered why this area isn't regulated. Commerical speech should be transparent.  DirkGently   Nov-28-11 12:32 PM   #200 
  - Much can be revealed by asking them questions. A poster can refuse to answer just so often before  patrice   Nov-27-11 01:28 PM   #98 
  - That is true. Eg, anyone who will not support SS, Medicare  sabrina 1   Nov-27-11 01:49 PM   #114 
     - Oh! I'm a Medicare Reform supporter. Have SEEN it up close and personal.  patrice   Nov-27-11 01:56 PM   #119 
     - So what does the proposed deep cut to providers have to do with eliminating fraud?  ZenaD   Nov-27-11 02:16 PM   #128 
     - If you'll look at HR 676, I think you'll find payments in general to be reviewed, this would include  patrice   Nov-27-11 02:25 PM   #132 
     - AND - This isn't just about fraud. Have you ever been around a CMS reporting system?  patrice   Nov-27-11 02:28 PM   #133 
     - No I haven't. Can you explain how cuts to providers will adress that?  ZenaD   Nov-27-11 02:30 PM   #136 
        - I think you can read the bill and decide for yourself, can't you? I have to take some food to our  patrice   Nov-27-11 02:35 PM   #137 
           - HR676? Are we getting Medicare for all with this provider cut?  ZenaD   Nov-27-11 02:46 PM   #141 
     - Physicians for a National Health Program: HR 676 Expanded & Improved Medicare for All Act  patrice   Nov-27-11 02:30 PM   #134 
     - The point being, if cuts are appropriate, they'll be proportional to their in-efficiencies.  patrice   Nov-27-11 02:30 PM   #135 
     - Heh  ZenaD   Nov-27-11 02:49 PM   #144 
     - Please source "deep". Thanks! nt  patrice   Nov-27-11 02:39 PM   #138 
     - Well, I didn't address that in my comment. My point was that  sabrina 1   Nov-27-11 03:42 PM   #152 
     - No one should be against your Medicare proposals.  Enthusiast   Nov-27-11 03:55 PM   #160 
     - Doing one's best to eliminate fraud and waste in a program is not "reforming" that program.  No Elephants   Nov-28-11 05:36 AM   #193 
        - Agreed. nt  Enthusiast   Nov-28-11 08:53 AM   #197 
     - Please see Reply 195,  No Elephants   Nov-28-11 05:39 AM   #194 
     - BTW, after passage of the ACA, Bernie Sanders said he supported Medicare reform and he  patrice   Nov-27-11 01:59 PM   #121 
        - He does not support raising the age as is now being proposed.  sabrina 1   Nov-27-11 03:51 PM   #156 
  - Plus one!  Enthusiast   Nov-27-11 03:52 PM   #157 
  - I call them on it when I run into them on my local paper's board.  BiggJawn   Nov-27-11 10:52 AM   #65 
  - I'm going to have to remember that one.  GoCubsGo   Nov-27-11 11:09 AM   #68 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Nov-27-11 01:29 PM   #101 
  - The editorials in the papers around here are nothing but regurgitated press releases.  ZenaD   Nov-27-11 02:18 PM   #130 
  - And the fakers here to direct what they don't like to other forums to keep attention off  DainBramaged   Nov-27-11 11:14 AM   #71 
  - One way to identify them; they generally post about a single issue, and never  Lorien   Nov-27-11 11:18 AM   #74 
  - Here's some great info from an earlier post on a different thread,  Zorra   Nov-27-11 01:20 PM   #94 
  - Wow. Fascinating. Thanks for that, hadn't seen it the first time around.  cui bono   Nov-27-11 03:55 PM   #159 
  - There's a reason that earlier thread is in the Woo-Woo Dungeon...nt  SidDithers   Nov-27-11 07:57 PM   #169 
     - No, the thread I'm speaking of was actually posted today, a bit after this one.  Zorra   Nov-27-11 08:40 PM   #172 
        - Just following the link you provided in your post...  SidDithers   Nov-27-11 08:52 PM   #174 
  - LOL, Lorien. You nailed it.  Mimosa   Nov-27-11 03:02 PM   #148 
  - The word troll is arguably one of the most overused words on the itnernet.  Quartermass   Nov-27-11 11:20 AM   #75 
  - Somebody paid you to say that, didn't they?  MilesColtrane   Nov-27-11 11:39 AM   #81 
  - We need a troll sub-species for these people. Anyone have a good name?  jimlup   Nov-27-11 11:26 AM   #76 
  - Here's one: Stupidius trollius. xD  AverageJoe90   Nov-27-11 11:04 PM   #181 
  - talk radio paid callers is good value. & citizens united money means going to see a lot more of both  certainot   Nov-27-11 11:47 AM   #82 
  - remember - the one absolute proof of someone being a troll is that they deny being a troll  Douglas Carpenter   Nov-27-11 12:40 PM   #85 
  - Lol!  sabrina 1   Nov-27-11 01:55 PM   #118 
  - Good one, Douglas.  Enthusiast   Nov-27-11 04:17 PM   #162 
  - LOL! n/t  tammywammy   Nov-27-11 11:39 PM   #183 
  - Let's face it. Corporations all have their agents, provocateurs and crumbots.  caseymoz   Nov-27-11 12:47 PM   #86 
  - I trust posters here and huffpo  PatrynXX   Nov-27-11 01:05 PM   #90 
  - a couple more threads discussing this topic  darth marth   Nov-27-11 01:19 PM   #93 
  - Lol! you beat me by a minute  Zorra   Nov-27-11 01:38 PM   #107 
  - + a million - Should be required reading here. AND WE SHOULD DISCUSS this kind of stuff when we  patrice   Nov-27-11 01:44 PM   #111 
  - I laugh when posters pull threads from the Conspiracy Theory dungeon to try to prove their point...  SidDithers   Nov-27-11 07:59 PM   #170 
  - "Hey, look, ma! It's another red herring!"  Zorra   Nov-27-11 08:49 PM   #173 
     - BHN's thread wasn't posted in the Conspiracy Theory forum...  SidDithers   Nov-27-11 08:56 PM   #176 
        - And that proves what? That's actually extremely disturbing when you think about it.  Zorra   Nov-27-11 11:33 PM   #182 
  - Fast simple rules to make your DU less polluted by paid trolls...  Evasporque   Nov-28-11 09:19 AM   #198 
  - Won't work  aletier_v   Nov-27-11 01:50 PM   #115 
  - Agree. Software won't work. You have to do it yourself.  McCamy Taylor   Nov-27-11 02:11 PM   #123 
  - Here is my fool proof plan for messing with the corporatew poster. Figure out which industry  McCamy Taylor   Nov-27-11 02:10 PM   #122 
  - Another clue: anyone whose detailed knowledge of an industry or issue seems at odds with his "just  McCamy Taylor   Nov-27-11 02:14 PM   #126 
  - "Anyone who posts anything in support of China's occupation of Tibet is a paid Chinese poster"...  SidDithers   Nov-27-11 08:02 PM   #171 
  - Yes, I don't even bother anymore at the local paper....  WCGreen   Nov-27-11 03:04 PM   #149 
  - I remember reading a hilariously dishonest example a few months ago.  chrisa   Nov-27-11 03:48 PM   #155 
  - Some of it, I think, is driven by a weird form of actual mental illness  Warren DeMontague   Nov-27-11 07:47 PM   #168 
  - Spot on...  Bobbie Jo   Nov-27-11 08:54 PM   #175 
  - Ha!  Number23   Nov-27-11 10:34 PM   #177 
  - Yup...  SidDithers   Nov-28-11 08:02 AM   #195 
  - They'll post at wee-hours to have the "last word" for at least a few hours too.  Populist_Prole   Nov-28-11 04:26 PM   #202 
  - I guess that's 62.43% of the people on DU including me  snooper2   Nov-28-11 08:38 AM   #196 

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