| 167. They are precisely as relevant as the number of seats and Presidencies they have won. n/t |
| -Bill Moyers: Change can't come from within the two parties. They are frozen, paralyzed, purchased. |
Better Believe It |
Nov-26-11 10:21 AM |
#0 |
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Cue the anti-Naderites in . . . 3 . . . 2 . . .. 1 - n/t |
coalition_unwilling |
Nov-26-11 10:24 AM |
#1 |
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Uh-Oh... Here comes a flock of Waaa-Waaas. |
bvar22 |
Nov-26-11 11:31 AM |
#12 |
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I was going to post a follow up with that link |
Enthusiast |
Nov-26-11 03:38 PM |
#58 |
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If Nader said it no one would listen to him |
FreakinDJ |
Nov-26-11 04:23 PM |
#65 |
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Yes, because, like Howard Zinn, a hero of history, and all other humans |
Xtraneous |
Nov-26-11 10:58 PM |
#104 |
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+1 |
Scuba |
Nov-27-11 06:39 AM |
#120 |
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"Oh air, pride, plume, here BUCKLE and the fire that breaks from thee then . . . |
patrice |
Nov-27-11 10:53 AM |
#159 |
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+ another |
rtassi |
Nov-27-11 12:37 PM |
#174 |
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Yes - Moyer's Speaks The Truth - Is It Time For DU To Become 99% Underground? |
cantbeserious |
Nov-26-11 10:25 AM |
#2 |
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No. Keep it DU. But Moyers views are certainly worthy of thoughtful discussion on this board. |
Better Believe It |
Nov-26-11 10:30 AM |
#5 |
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Sadly to me, so many of my progressive views have been flamed on this |
indepat |
Nov-26-11 02:40 PM |
#44 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Nov-27-11 02:10 AM |
#116 |
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99% Underground better than DU which suggests alliance with "Democratic" party ... !! |
defendandprotect |
Nov-26-11 03:07 PM |
#50 |
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This isn't Democatic Party Underground (DPU)although many here vote for Democratic Party candidates. |
Better Believe It |
Nov-26-11 04:19 PM |
#63 |
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Are you sure? |
defendandprotect |
Nov-26-11 10:33 PM |
#93 |
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Nonsence!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 |
Auntie Bush |
Nov-27-11 12:24 PM |
#172 |
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Evidently you've read nothing here re the Third Way and Democratic Party? |
defendandprotect |
Nov-28-11 02:58 AM |
#197 |
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Why don't you set up 99% Underground... |
SidDithers |
Nov-27-11 10:33 AM |
#150 |
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"thoughtful discussion" |
Bobbie Jo |
Nov-27-11 06:37 PM |
#190 |
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Agree DU needs a name change -- 99% Underground -- Great idea -- !! |
defendandprotect |
Nov-26-11 03:04 PM |
#48 |
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Of course there is a connection, it's in the rules, isn't it? |
cui bono |
Nov-26-11 08:50 PM |
#87 |
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However, also somewhere Skinner says clearly ... 'NO CONNECTION' between DU and Democratic Party ... |
defendandprotect |
Nov-26-11 10:36 PM |
#94 |
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Maybe change the logo to a lower-case d. |
Atman |
Nov-27-11 06:11 AM |
#119 |
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I'm not sure what the difference is between |
Le Taz Hot |
Nov-27-11 08:39 AM |
#127 |
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k/r --- "wearisome" --- yep -- !! |
defendandprotect |
Nov-28-11 03:10 AM |
#199 |
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Start your own friggin' site...nt |
SidDithers |
Nov-27-11 10:38 AM |
#153 |
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No, it's the current party that needs a shit-load of mind change. |
gkhouston |
Nov-27-11 12:08 PM |
#169 |
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Agree -- but the idea being that a name change might change the mentality .... ???? |
defendandprotect |
Nov-28-11 02:35 AM |
#192 |
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That works for me - since the party doesn't. |
polichick |
Nov-27-11 08:39 AM |
#128 |
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..... |
blindpig |
Nov-26-11 10:26 AM |
#3 |
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K & R !!! |
WillyT |
Nov-26-11 10:29 AM |
#4 |
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Bill Moyers is Correct |
pmorlan1 |
Nov-26-11 10:37 AM |
#6 |
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Zinn's history flaws? pls post here a five line or so summary for overbusy guy. thanks! |
sam11111 |
Nov-26-11 10:44 AM |
#7 |
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Zinn was a generally bad historian who outright distorted facts to fit his version of events |
Spider Jerusalem |
Nov-26-11 12:20 PM |
#20 |
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Facts? Polemic? If one can't win on facts, smear the character? |
jtuck004 |
Nov-26-11 03:10 PM |
#53 |
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I didn't actually say any of that, so I'll kindly thank you not to put words into my mouth. |
Spider Jerusalem |
Nov-26-11 03:43 PM |
#59 |
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Ok. I do think |
jtuck004 |
Nov-27-11 12:33 AM |
#114 |
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Applause and a few cheers for your post -- k/r -- !! |
defendandprotect |
Nov-28-11 02:37 AM |
#193 |
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It's all about class and class warfare .... something you apparently don't recognize. |
Better Believe It |
Nov-28-11 10:07 PM |
#223 |
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+1000% -- fantastic post--!! |
defendandprotect |
Nov-26-11 10:40 PM |
#99 |
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+1 |
rtassi |
Nov-27-11 12:41 PM |
#175 |
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History is written with bias. Maybe Zinn's bias is against your grain. nm |
rhett o rick |
Nov-27-11 10:41 AM |
#156 |
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While I agree that Howard Zinn did "cherry pick" a lot of |
dotymed |
Nov-27-11 01:54 PM |
#181 |
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Think Howard Zinn came up with about as fair a look at our history as possible --- |
defendandprotect |
Nov-28-11 03:08 AM |
#198 |
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How's Marc Rich doin' these days? |
Octafish |
Nov-26-11 10:54 AM |
#8 |
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The two parties aren't going away. It is possible though perhaps |
libinnyandia |
Nov-26-11 10:56 AM |
#9 |
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OWS is a message that BOTH parties are finished -- and the movment is to the LEFT .... |
defendandprotect |
Nov-28-11 02:41 AM |
#194 |
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Recommended. |
H2O Man |
Nov-26-11 11:03 AM |
#10 |
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yes they are owned by corporations and rich Both parties |
lovuian |
Nov-26-11 11:03 AM |
#11 |
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I stand with Bill Moyers. |
bvar22 |
Nov-26-11 11:32 AM |
#13 |
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I hate to be the bearer of bad nows, but it isn't coming in any way OTHER than the two party system. |
BzaDem |
Nov-26-11 11:35 AM |
#14 |
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The parties themselves are not even an afterthought, they have no mention, so either or both |
TheKentuckian |
Nov-26-11 12:26 PM |
#22 |
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I wasn't saying that a party cannot be "replaced." |
BzaDem |
Nov-26-11 02:39 PM |
#42 |
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Every nation that has single payer universal HC also has |
truedelphi |
Nov-26-11 07:34 PM |
#77 |
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Great point -- !! But you can't undo the corporate 2-party lock by voting for it, can you ...??? |
defendandprotect |
Nov-26-11 10:44 PM |
#100 |
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There are more than 2 behavioral options. Why do people pretend otherwise? |
patrice |
Nov-27-11 10:02 AM |
#137 |
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No one is pretending. There are not more than 2 actual options. |
BzaDem |
Nov-27-11 12:21 PM |
#171 |
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Doesn't it rather obviously depend upon what YOU DO after voting? |
patrice |
Nov-27-11 10:35 AM |
#151 |
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Yes and no. What really matters is who you are. |
truedelphi |
Nov-27-11 02:42 PM |
#186 |
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+1000% --- k/r |
defendandprotect |
Nov-28-11 02:46 AM |
#195 |
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So, you've never even heard of the Libertarian party, the Green party, or the Constitution party? |
Major Hogwash |
Nov-27-11 09:25 AM |
#131 |
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They are precisely as relevant as the number of seats and Presidencies they have won. n/t |
BzaDem |
Nov-27-11 11:55 AM |
#167 |
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Side by side go the other parties' candidates, except |
truedelphi |
Nov-27-11 01:21 PM |
#179 |
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it's about funds not whackjob or loser leaders |
TorchTheWitch |
Nov-27-11 01:43 PM |
#180 |
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Hogwash -- Computers were already with us in late 1960's delivering unverifiable results -- !! |
defendandprotect |
Nov-28-11 02:50 AM |
#196 |
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You don't a clue as to what the hell is going on in this country. |
Major Hogwash |
Nov-28-11 04:56 AM |
#209 |
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Are you saying voting computers didn't come in during late 1960's???? |
defendandprotect |
Nov-28-11 03:33 PM |
#216 |
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Are you saying that computers can vote? |
Major Hogwash |
Nov-28-11 08:53 PM |
#219 |
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Are you saying none of our elections have been stolen by computer voting? |
defendandprotect |
Nov-28-11 08:56 PM |
#220 |
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How old are you? |
Major Hogwash |
Nov-28-11 09:09 PM |
#222 |
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Hogwash -- straight up ... Voting computers are hackable or not -- ??? |
defendandprotect |
Nov-29-11 12:52 AM |
#224 |
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I knew you wouldn't answer that question!!! There's a tea party out there somewhere . . |
Major Hogwash |
Nov-29-11 01:48 AM |
#227 |
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Right -- anyone who understands voting computers are hackable is a "Mad Hatter" -- !! ROFL |
defendandprotect |
Nov-29-11 11:42 AM |
#229 |
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+1 |
rtassi |
Nov-27-11 12:44 PM |
#176 |
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Our Party needs to elect a majority of progressives. |
glinda |
Nov-26-11 01:25 PM |
#25 |
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Unfortunately, we're only being give pre-selected corporate candidates ... |
defendandprotect |
Nov-29-11 12:53 AM |
#226 |
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Once the Dem Party was basically infiltrated by people |
sabrina 1 |
Nov-26-11 01:40 PM |
#29 |
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Not sufficient attention is being paid to Third Way control over Dem Party ... imo ... !! |
defendandprotect |
Nov-26-11 10:45 PM |
#101 |
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Are those your words or are you quoting a Whig? |
Bluenorthwest |
Nov-26-11 02:19 PM |
#34 |
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you are essentially saying that change is hopeless. |
provis99 |
Nov-26-11 03:28 PM |
#56 |
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No, I'm not. I'm saying that any change will come through a 2 party system. If you claim that change |
BzaDem |
Nov-26-11 05:32 PM |
#71 |
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Political mobilization through a political party in this country is doomed to failure. |
Marr |
Nov-26-11 08:01 PM |
#84 |
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Why would they vie for its support? |
BzaDem |
Nov-27-11 12:15 PM |
#170 |
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Because it would be a voting block. |
Marr |
Nov-27-11 05:29 PM |
#188 |
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Exactly -- GOP/Christian movement was given start up-funding by GOP ... !!! Most of it funded by RW! |
defendandprotect |
Nov-28-11 03:19 AM |
#201 |
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Agree -- k/r --- and not enough discussion of Third Way here ... most don't know ... ??? |
defendandprotect |
Nov-28-11 03:13 AM |
#200 |
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no, you absolutely said it was hopeless. |
provis99 |
Nov-26-11 09:49 PM |
#92 |
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The number of parties is not going to change. The platforms and makeup of the parties can very well |
BzaDem |
Nov-27-11 12:03 PM |
#168 |
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nonsense. |
provis99 |
Nov-28-11 03:20 AM |
#202 |
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Bing- frakking -go, you all! Go back and READ Chomsky re COGNITIVE programming/propaganda, or Lakoff |
patrice |
Nov-27-11 10:09 AM |
#141 |
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Yes. The US of A never had more than two parties and never will! |
RegieRocker |
Nov-27-11 10:08 AM |
#140 |
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And Dick Tracy's wrist T.V. will never come about... |
SteveM |
Nov-27-11 04:23 PM |
#187 |
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Unrec... |
SidDithers |
Nov-26-11 11:37 AM |
#15 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Nov-26-11 01:14 PM |
#24 |
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Count on it Sid! |
whatchamacallit |
Nov-26-11 01:39 PM |
#28 |
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How's that Harper Government doing up there, Sid? |
Bluenorthwest |
Nov-26-11 02:21 PM |
#35 |
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Recommended....+94 |
DisgustipatedinCA |
Nov-26-11 02:35 PM |
#41 |
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Ain't democracy grant...nt |
SidDithers |
Nov-26-11 03:04 PM |
#49 |
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rec'd |
mike_c |
Nov-26-11 05:09 PM |
#70 |
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Bill Moyers speaks my mind....kr nt |
ooglymoogly |
Nov-26-11 11:41 AM |
#16 |
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+1 |
alittlelark |
Nov-26-11 10:37 PM |
#95 |
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Please go read the text of the entire interview. |
bvar22 |
Nov-26-11 11:59 AM |
#17 |
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Yea Bill! I was so glad to read recently that he's coming back to television. Excellent timing! n/t |
Dover |
Nov-26-11 12:04 PM |
#18 |
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The current dynamic is that $ = election victory. That's what needs to change. |
DirkGently |
Nov-26-11 12:19 PM |
#19 |
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For the most part yeah... |
Telly Savalas |
Nov-26-11 03:14 PM |
#54 |
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Perhaps you were thinking of Meg Whitman vs. Jerry Brown in last year's gubernatorial n/t |
catzies |
Nov-26-11 05:37 PM |
#72 |
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occupy. -eom |
Huey P. Long |
Nov-26-11 12:21 PM |
#21 |
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The 2 capitalist party system provides the illusion of democracy in an oligarchy. K&R |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Nov-26-11 12:46 PM |
#23 |
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+1000 |
alittlelark |
Nov-26-11 10:38 PM |
#97 |
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Thank you. And those trying to claim that people "just don't vote for" third parties |
woo me with science |
Nov-27-11 11:22 AM |
#164 |
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+ more |
rtassi |
Nov-27-11 12:47 PM |
#177 |
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+1000% -- We get the privilege of voting for those whom corporations/elites select for us --!! ROFL |
defendandprotect |
Nov-28-11 03:22 AM |
#203 |
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Kicked and recommended. |
Uncle Joe |
Nov-26-11 01:29 PM |
#26 |
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This is the truth |
whatchamacallit |
Nov-26-11 01:33 PM |
#27 |
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Yep -- and we've known this for decades ... 2 corporate parties ... doesn't sink in somehow ... !! |
defendandprotect |
Nov-26-11 01:49 PM |
#30 |
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Regulatory capture... |
FlyByNight |
Nov-26-11 01:57 PM |
#31 |
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My question is, how did US politics consolidate in the two-party system |
alp227 |
Nov-26-11 02:06 PM |
#32 |
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It didn't. If you talk to (& that doesn't mean POLL) enough REAL people, you find there ARE more |
patrice |
Nov-27-11 10:04 AM |
#138 |
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A-FREAKIN'-MEN! K&R Moyers is spot on. |
in_cog_ni_to |
Nov-26-11 02:09 PM |
#33 |
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Bill Moyers is now on automatic unrecommend. n/t |
LoZoccolo |
Nov-26-11 02:23 PM |
#36 |
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Yes, Moyers an unrec and Andrew Sullivan a wise sage voice. Amazing turn of events, |
Safetykitten |
Nov-26-11 02:29 PM |
#37 |
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why? |
DisgustipatedinCA |
Nov-26-11 02:34 PM |
#39 |
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Nice to see you're giving this decision the careful and measured consideration |
whatchamacallit |
Nov-26-11 02:34 PM |
#40 |
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Oh. "Ignored" must've said something zany again. |
Vanje |
Nov-26-11 02:49 PM |
#46 |
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LOL! My thoughts exactly. |
Pacifist Patriot |
Nov-26-11 03:07 PM |
#52 |
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heh. Now I wonder what "Ignored" said that was stupid again. |
provis99 |
Nov-26-11 03:29 PM |
#57 |
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I think he just threw Bill Moyers under the bus. It's getting crowded under here! |
Better Believe It |
Nov-26-11 04:22 PM |
#64 |
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yup |
shanti |
Nov-26-11 07:42 PM |
#79 |
| -
awwww |
fascisthunter |
Nov-26-11 07:51 PM |
#82 |
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explain yourself |
paulk |
Nov-26-11 09:35 PM |
#89 |
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I don't have to if I don't want to. |
LoZoccolo |
Nov-26-11 10:55 PM |
#103 |
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then I'm going to put you on ignore |
paulk |
Nov-26-11 11:03 PM |
#105 |
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I better follow suit. nm |
rhett o rick |
Nov-26-11 11:05 PM |
#107 |
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Not very horizontal of either one of you. Same old divide & conquer BS. Anti-Revolutionary. |
patrice |
Nov-27-11 10:38 AM |
#154 |
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I disagree |
paulk |
Nov-27-11 11:44 AM |
#165 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Nov-27-11 08:27 AM |
#125 |
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1+ . . . that's the way I see it. |
patrice |
Nov-27-11 10:39 AM |
#155 |
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Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Nov-26-11 11:04 PM |
#106 |
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Rule by mob? "Most people ______" = truth??? wow. |
patrice |
Nov-27-11 10:17 AM |
#144 |
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Thanks for the laugh |
tavalon |
Nov-26-11 10:39 PM |
#98 |
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And, |
chervilant |
Nov-27-11 02:26 AM |
#117 |
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I automatically rec anything you unrec so that means you have no "unrec" power. nt |
Bonobo |
Nov-27-11 06:03 AM |
#118 |
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I am rubber, and you are glue, so whatever you say bounces off me and sticks to you. n/t |
LoZoccolo |
Nov-27-11 08:45 AM |
#129 |
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Are you in middle school? eom |
City Lights |
Nov-27-11 09:43 AM |
#134 |
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Thanks, we always look forward to your intellectual additions. nm |
rhett o rick |
Nov-27-11 10:38 AM |
#152 |
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LOL! |
City Lights |
Nov-27-11 09:31 AM |
#133 |
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At least no longer an auto rec., not that responsible DU -ers du such things, that is! |
patrice |
Nov-27-11 10:07 AM |
#139 |
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Deep Thought... |
cui bono |
Nov-27-11 01:10 PM |
#178 |
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Bill Moyers is absolutely correct. This is the reason for OWS. |
woo me with science |
Nov-26-11 02:30 PM |
#38 |
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OWS is needed because the left lets 1000 coordinated radio stations undermine the feedback mechanis |
certainot |
Nov-26-11 02:51 PM |
#47 |
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The media is purchased along with Congress and the White House. nt |
woo me with science |
Nov-26-11 04:07 PM |
#61 |
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This continual movement of "intellectuals" to try and upturn the two party |
truedelphi |
Nov-26-11 02:39 PM |
#43 |
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Lovely thought that we would actually be working towards an end to wars .... |
defendandprotect |
Nov-28-11 03:28 AM |
#204 |
| -
another of left intelligentsia analyzing politics in a talk radio vacuum |
certainot |
Nov-26-11 02:48 PM |
#45 |
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I decided a while ago I wouldn't live long enough to see this country back on track |
nini |
Nov-26-11 03:07 PM |
#51 |
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54 here too |
unionworks |
Nov-26-11 11:12 PM |
#108 |
| -
From the OP: |
ProSense |
Nov-26-11 03:18 PM |
#55 |
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just as self described change agents can do more to retard change. |
hulka38 |
Nov-27-11 12:02 AM |
#112 |
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1++++++ & key trait = "self" |
patrice |
Nov-27-11 10:56 AM |
#160 |
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BECAUSE they never have an answer for what to do with those who disagree, besides make them enemies. |
patrice |
Nov-27-11 11:05 AM |
#162 |
| -
Kicked and recommended! nt |
Enthusiast |
Nov-26-11 03:48 PM |
#60 |
| -
REC. Bill Moyers is right on target with his analysis. |
bertman |
Nov-26-11 04:08 PM |
#62 |
| -
"raw, hungry capital can, like fire, turn from a good servant into a bad master" |
Martin Eden |
Nov-26-11 04:41 PM |
#66 |
| -
K&R |
DeSwiss |
Nov-26-11 04:48 PM |
#67 |
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Moyers is right. After seeing how the '92 democratic party nominating process was rigged in favor |
Citizen Worker |
Nov-26-11 05:04 PM |
#68 |
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I've been saying this since 2002 or so-- the democratic party... |
mike_c |
Nov-26-11 05:08 PM |
#69 |
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"They are frozen, paralyzed, purchased." |
democrank |
Nov-26-11 06:09 PM |
#73 |
| -
Why should parties "reflect their interests" in any but the |
treestar |
Nov-26-11 06:12 PM |
#74 |
| -
Bill Moyers Is A Good Man And He's Right |
Sportsguy |
Nov-26-11 06:21 PM |
#75 |
| -
K&R |
deutsey |
Nov-26-11 07:33 PM |
#76 |
| -
amen, brother! |
shanti |
Nov-26-11 07:36 PM |
#78 |
| -
Moyers is totally on point. nt |
Raine |
Nov-26-11 07:46 PM |
#80 |
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The People will be deciding the Parties actions soon |
fascisthunter |
Nov-26-11 07:50 PM |
#81 |
| -
Shouldn't a majority of Democrats or Republicans in Congress unfreeze this? |
Swede |
Nov-26-11 07:56 PM |
#83 |
| -
How well did that work out between '09 and '11? |
a2liberal |
Nov-27-11 07:31 AM |
#122 |
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He put his finger on it, but then he mis-solved the puzzle. |
gulliver |
Nov-26-11 08:18 PM |
#85 |
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This is it. Anything else we disparate polities say, this is IT. |
Taverner |
Nov-26-11 08:31 PM |
#86 |
| -
Yep. How many of us were delighted with the accomplishments of a full Democratic majority gov? |
Kablooie |
Nov-26-11 09:13 PM |
#88 |
| -
OCCUPY THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY. |
yodermon |
Nov-26-11 09:37 PM |
#90 |
| -
Organize outside the system with the Interactive Voter Choice System |
NancyBordier |
Nov-26-11 09:48 PM |
#91 |
| -
IVCS....... u need a name folks can remember |
sam11111 |
Nov-26-11 10:51 PM |
#102 |
| -
The Interactive Voter Choice System is a Consensus-Building Mechanism |
NancyBordier |
Nov-27-11 02:11 PM |
#182 |
| -
Good info... |
CanSocDem |
Nov-27-11 09:28 AM |
#132 |
| -
Thank You! |
NancyBordier |
Nov-27-11 02:12 PM |
#183 |
| -
LOTS of engineering questions BEHIND somethig like that. Wouldn't it be nice to see a |
patrice |
Nov-27-11 10:20 AM |
#145 |
| -
Please elaborate |
NancyBordier |
Nov-27-11 02:13 PM |
#185 |
| -
Could Not Agree More With Bill Moyers |
colsohlibgal |
Nov-26-11 10:37 PM |
#96 |
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many people on the left have been saying the same thing for 40 years |
eridani |
Nov-26-11 11:33 PM |
#109 |
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I no longer feel aligned with the Democratic party... |
CoffeeCat |
Nov-26-11 11:49 PM |
#110 |
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This Is Too Bleak Of An Assessment -- Barely |
DallasNE |
Nov-26-11 11:56 PM |
#111 |
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K&R! |
blackspade |
Nov-27-11 12:20 AM |
#113 |
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knr |
Douglas Carpenter |
Nov-27-11 01:47 AM |
#115 |
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K&R (n/t) |
a2liberal |
Nov-27-11 07:25 AM |
#121 |
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I first learned about America being the Corporate from CSI: Miami |
Bryn |
Nov-27-11 07:50 AM |
#123 |
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Just found this on facebook |
Bryn |
Nov-27-11 07:57 AM |
#124 |
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The biggest reason we cant go forward is the hard core RW and the media backing them up. |
DCBob |
Nov-27-11 08:32 AM |
#126 |
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What liberal/progressive legislation on the economy/Wall Street are we talking about? |
Better Believe It |
Nov-28-11 01:47 PM |
#210 |
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The problem with his article is that he uses a poll to support his theory. |
Major Hogwash |
Nov-27-11 09:15 AM |
#130 |
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You need a poll to understand that corporations control both parties ... ??? |
defendandprotect |
Nov-28-11 03:35 AM |
#205 |
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It's not about the stupid poll he refers to. |
Major Hogwash |
Nov-28-11 04:53 AM |
#208 |
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Evidently, you thought the "poll" was important enough to mention .... ??? |
defendandprotect |
Nov-28-11 02:20 PM |
#212 |
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Because Bill Moyers built his entire argument on that poll. He mentioned it in line 1. |
Major Hogwash |
Nov-28-11 08:50 PM |
#218 |
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Moyers may have referred to a poll, but certainly he has also known for decades .... |
defendandprotect |
Nov-28-11 08:59 PM |
#221 |
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Now you're claiming that you're able to read Bill Moyer's mind!!! |
Major Hogwash |
Nov-29-11 01:50 AM |
#228 |
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Those who understand corporate takeover of both parties are in "Twilight Zone" ... ??? |
defendandprotect |
Nov-29-11 11:47 AM |
#230 |
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"True" Bill, but how do you separate correction from the INTENT TO KILL the best chance we've had at |
patrice |
Nov-27-11 09:46 AM |
#135 |
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P.S. Not to mention how to separate correction from the INTENT TO KILL Labor's Right to Organize. nt |
patrice |
Nov-27-11 09:58 AM |
#136 |
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"Correction" needs definition before we can discuss whether killing is part of the package |
TheKentuckian |
Nov-27-11 11:51 AM |
#166 |
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Two parties that serve corporate america, been saying that for years. |
sarcasmo |
Nov-27-11 10:14 AM |
#142 |
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WE are the ones we've been waiting for ... |
Fly by night |
Nov-27-11 10:16 AM |
#143 |
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Go out into the streets & talk to REAL people. You will find 2 parties is a lie propagated by the |
patrice |
Nov-27-11 10:23 AM |
#146 |
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Can't understand here why we're trusting a 2 partyself-assessment from a CORRUPT system we hate. |
patrice |
Nov-27-11 10:25 AM |
#147 |
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Why would a CORRUPT system tell the truth about ANYTHING, especially its own nature. |
patrice |
Nov-27-11 10:26 AM |
#148 |
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Question ALL authority, ESPECIALLY!!! that you agree with. |
patrice |
Nov-27-11 10:31 AM |
#149 |
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Just in case you missed it, that includes BILL MOYERS. Anything less is not freedom. nt |
patrice |
Nov-27-11 10:48 AM |
#158 |
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when a majority (52%) believe that they are not represented |
ThomThom |
Nov-27-11 10:42 AM |
#157 |
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"I’m drawn to the Howard Zinns and the Ralph Naders..." |
gulliver |
Nov-27-11 11:05 AM |
#161 |
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Dare I allude to The PROFESSIONAL "Left"? |
patrice |
Nov-27-11 11:09 AM |
#163 |
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" It's absurd to complain about Democrats taking money from corporations" Ya .... really absurd. |
Better Believe It |
Nov-27-11 07:44 PM |
#191 |
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ditto |
defendandprotect |
Nov-28-11 03:43 AM |
#207 |
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... |
Bobbie Jo |
Nov-28-11 03:53 PM |
#217 |
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Right ... we can fight corruption by voting for it --- !!! ROFL |
defendandprotect |
Nov-28-11 03:41 AM |
#206 |
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Does he think that if the Dems took no corporate money they would be pure and represent the people? |
LiberalLovinLug |
Nov-29-11 03:45 PM |
#231 |
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I believe pressure should come from outside and put pressure on |
theophilus |
Nov-27-11 12:24 PM |
#173 |
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! |
lonestarnot |
Nov-27-11 02:12 PM |
#184 |
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Kick. nt |
woo me with science |
Nov-27-11 06:23 PM |
#189 |
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Coming from a lifelong Dem |
KamaAina |
Nov-28-11 01:51 PM |
#211 |
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Wait .... |
defendandprotect |
Nov-28-11 02:26 PM |
#213 |
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No, Bill Moyers worked in LBJ's White House. I was 4 when he left office. |
KamaAina |
Nov-28-11 02:59 PM |
#214 |
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No -- my fault .... |
defendandprotect |
Nov-28-11 03:07 PM |
#215 |
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agree |
upi402 |
Nov-29-11 12:53 AM |
#225 |
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Kick and Rec |
Myrina |
Nov-29-11 06:45 PM |
#232 |
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