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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-11 10:06 AM
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16. I can explain what happened
At one time, about the same time you and I entered the workforce, everyones pay and benefits were patterned after union workers pay and benefits. Didn't even need to belong a union to have everyones pay patterned after union pay and benefits. Just the threat of the workers organizing and becoming unionized was enough.

But a lot of Americans fucked up and and stopped supporting our union workers whenever they could. So guess what happened? Now everyone's pay and benefits are being patterned after non-union workers.

Stop and think back about it for a minute and try to remember if this is what you have seen happening about since 1980? Because this is exactly what happened.

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  -The Supreme Court Will Uphold Health Care Reform, and Here's Why NNN0LHI  Nov-25-11 05:46 AM   #0 
  - Justice Kennedy not only will be saving the Republicans from themselves, he will be giving them...  Kolesar   Nov-25-11 05:56 AM   #1 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-25-11 06:37 AM   #6 
     - Mandatory health insurance premiums is not like privatizing Social Security  Kolesar   Nov-25-11 08:59 AM   #11 
     - Let's try to get all American with health insurance and worry about that later. nm  rhett o rick   Nov-25-11 09:50 AM   #15 
  - Yup, that's me. Foregoing care.  Denninmi   Nov-25-11 05:56 AM   #2 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-25-11 06:00 AM   #3 
  - That is the first time I have seen someone refer to President Obama as Barry on this site  NNN0LHI   Nov-25-11 06:06 AM   #4 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-25-11 06:32 AM   #5 
        - Welcome to DU  NNN0LHI   Nov-25-11 06:44 AM   #7 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-25-11 06:51 AM   #8 
           - How I see fit is to put you on my ignore list.  classof56   Nov-25-11 08:35 AM   #9 
        - It does matter how he is referred to.  blue neen   Nov-25-11 08:56 AM   #10 
  - Counting on a strong inclination to support and advance fascism to maintain a plan  TheKentuckian   Nov-25-11 09:29 AM   #12 
  - It is a horrible idea! The health care insurance blood sucking vultures loves it, for good reason.  SammyWinstonJack   Nov-25-11 10:26 AM   #18 
  - +1  area51   Nov-25-11 11:22 AM   #19 
  - This should be its own OP.  cherokeeprogressive   Nov-25-11 09:36 PM   #27 
  - Here's my breakdown  socialindependocrat   Nov-25-11 09:46 AM   #13 
  - I can explain what happened  NNN0LHI   Nov-25-11 10:06 AM   #16 
     - Since the mid 80s  socialindependocrat   Nov-25-11 11:21 PM   #30 
  - Despite a handful of good things in the law, overall it seems to be...  Scuba   Nov-25-11 09:47 AM   #14 
  - The OP is a policy argument not a Constitutional argument.  former9thward   Nov-25-11 10:22 AM   #17 
  - Trying to think of a nice way to say you're wrong  Prophet 451   Nov-25-11 11:25 AM   #20 
  - If the only thing mandate supporters can reach to are two  former9thward   Nov-25-11 04:24 PM   #22 
  - Those cases are called precedents ... unless you think the Constitution, which is even older ...  JoePhilly   Nov-25-11 09:32 PM   #26 
     - No they are not precedents.  former9thward   Nov-26-11 10:39 AM   #31 
  - That's a terrible example.  girl gone mad   Nov-25-11 09:52 PM   #28 
  - The "mandate" is a tax that you can avoid paying, making it quite  JoePhilly   Nov-25-11 11:53 AM   #21 
     - It is still a mandate because no one wants to see their taxes go up.  former9thward   Nov-25-11 04:30 PM   #24 
        - Your example fails.  JoePhilly   Nov-25-11 09:30 PM   #25 
           - Buying and eating healthy vegetables could reduce ER costs.  girl gone mad   Nov-25-11 09:55 PM   #29 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-25-11 04:29 PM   #23 

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