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SomethingFishy Donating Member (552 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 12:41 PM
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15. They certainly don't.
All a Republican needs to do in this day and age is threaten to filibuster and the Democrats cave in like a sink hole. No talking involved. Hell no filibuster involved. It's a great fucking system, really, we should just shut the fuck up and enjoy it.
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  -So why do Democrats have to engage in actual Senate floor filibusters and Republican don't? Better Believe It  Nov-23-11 11:44 AM   #0 
  - He should just use his privilage to hold the bill  inademv   Nov-23-11 11:45 AM   #1 
  - You might be right. Can't one Senator alone put a hold on a bill or am I wrong?  Better Believe It   Nov-23-11 11:48 AM   #3 
     - The hold power applies to any legislation I believe  inademv   Nov-23-11 11:52 AM   #5 
     - Senator Wyden has said publicly that he is opposed to holds.  former9thward   Nov-23-11 12:37 PM   #13 
        - That doesn't change reality  inademv   Nov-24-11 01:35 AM   #32 
  - so will the president veto it? - you know, in the name of freedom of information and transparency nt  msongs   Nov-23-11 11:47 AM   #2 
  - Not if President Obama supports government control over the internet.  Better Believe It   Nov-23-11 11:49 AM   #4 
  - Because filibusters don't work that way.  TheWraith   Nov-23-11 12:03 PM   #6 
  - They certainly don't.  SomethingFishy   Nov-23-11 12:41 PM   #15 
  - Uh, NO.  TheWraith   Nov-23-11 01:33 PM   #19 
     - UH YES! What they did was change the rules so you  SomethingFishy   Nov-23-11 02:45 PM   #23 
        - this is a semantic difference -  karynnj   Nov-23-11 03:28 PM   #25 
  - Do you have any evidence for your claim? nt  ZombieHorde   Nov-23-11 10:12 PM   #31 
  - The only one who has actually Fillibustered anything was not a Republican or Democrat  ThomWV   Nov-23-11 12:11 PM   #7 
  - No the Republicans filibustered many things in the last several years -  karynnj   Nov-23-11 12:25 PM   #10 
  - I dont think there has been an actual filibuster since Mr Smith left Washington.  DCBob   Nov-23-11 12:14 PM   #8 
  - Democrats forced a traditional Republican filibuster to pass an unemployment extension on March 2010  Better Believe It   Nov-23-11 12:31 PM   #11 
     - Not quite the same thing as reading a cookbook for 2 days.  DCBob   Nov-23-11 12:36 PM   #12 
  - Niether do.  karynnj   Nov-23-11 12:20 PM   #9 
  - Not really. To filibuster anything in the Senate you need at least one Senator to filibuster.  Better Believe It   Nov-23-11 12:55 PM   #17 
     - Not really - the rules changed  karynnj   Nov-23-11 01:22 PM   #18 
     - So what prohibits one or more Senators from filibustering on the Senate floor?  Better Believe It   Nov-23-11 02:41 PM   #21 
        - The fact that they can file a cloture motion which after a specified  karynnj   Nov-23-11 03:21 PM   #24 
           - As I understand they can file a motion during a procedural filibuster but the Senate can't act on ..  Better Believe It   Nov-23-11 04:29 PM   #26 
              - Has there been a "real filibuster" that lasted the 30 hours needed  karynnj   Nov-23-11 06:09 PM   #27 
                 - That's because Senate Democrats don't engage in real filibusters beyond 30 hours even when they can.  Better Believe It   Nov-23-11 06:32 PM   #29 
     - What you describe as a "real filibuster" hasn't existed for more than 40 years.  TheWraith   Nov-23-11 01:34 PM   #20 
  - Because our freedom loving president will veto it...won't he?  Tierra_y_Libertad   Nov-23-11 12:38 PM   #14 
  - It's a new mystery of the ages /nt  Bragi   Nov-23-11 12:42 PM   #16 
  - It's all very mysterious how some rules that apply to Democrats don't apply to Republicans.  Better Believe It   Nov-23-11 02:43 PM   #22 
  - They don't. You are engaging in obfuscation.  tritsofme   Nov-23-11 06:28 PM   #28 
     - Thanks for your simplistic clarity. Too bad it has nothing to do with Senator Wyden's filibuster.  Better Believe It   Nov-23-11 08:48 PM   #30 
        - Wyden is drawing attention to himself and his cause.  tritsofme   Nov-24-11 11:15 AM   #33 
 

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