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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-11 05:53 PM
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30. No, given the context, they look as meager as they are.
Unless your context is a fun house mirror.

What a ridiculous article, playing all sides against the middle and pretending that Clinton offers a discernible alternative to Obama. The best use of it is as a reminder to avoid wasting your time clicking on his articles in the future.
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  -If every Democratic president disappoints, maybe theres something wrong with our expectations" apples and oranges  Nov-22-11 04:45 PM   #0 
  - Oh my god.  woo me with science   Nov-22-11 04:46 PM   #1 
  - "  H2O Man   Nov-22-11 04:48 PM   #3 
  - Yep.  EFerrari   Nov-22-11 05:46 PM   #29 
  - Lowered expectations.  Kaleko   Nov-22-11 06:35 PM   #39 
     - No, REALISTIC expectations versus unrealistic ones.  TheWraith   Nov-22-11 07:56 PM   #50 
  - We have had exactly 2 democratic presidents in the past 30 years -  TBF   Nov-22-11 04:47 PM   #2 
  - The article goes through the timeline of how liberals felt about past presidents  apples and oranges   Nov-22-11 04:49 PM   #5 
     - Right back to FDR, who was constantly slammed for timid half-measures.  TheWraith   Nov-22-11 05:07 PM   #13 
        - What was FDR's favoribility rating after 3 years in office?  MannyGoldstein   Nov-22-11 06:18 PM   #33 
           - Given that those numbers don't exist, you might as well ask for a unicorn.  TheWraith   Nov-22-11 07:59 PM   #51 
              - How many Congressional seats did the Dems *gain* in 1934?  MannyGoldstein   Nov-22-11 08:20 PM   #56 
  - No, there's nothing wrong with our expectations other than that they may be too timid.  dtexdem   Nov-22-11 04:48 PM   #4 
  - Actually, he pretty much nailed not just the problem but also the origin of the problem.  TheWraith   Nov-22-11 05:06 PM   #12 
  - It's Jonathan Chait,  hifiguy   Nov-22-11 04:51 PM   #6 
  - The article certainly doesn't contain anything informative  struggle4progress   Nov-22-11 05:14 PM   #19 
  - Only if you didn't read it. nt  TheWraith   Nov-22-11 07:59 PM   #52 
     - I read it. I already knew where folk like Aravosis and Greenwald were coming from.  struggle4progress   Nov-22-11 09:55 PM   #59 
  - Thanks, typical drivel from Chait.  sabrina 1   Nov-22-11 06:35 PM   #38 
  - This is the piece that includes attacks on those who spoke out  Bluenorthwest   Nov-22-11 04:53 PM   #7 
  - No. We're hoping for a (D) - The People President, not a (D) - Corporate President.  DCKit   Nov-22-11 04:55 PM   #8 
  - that would be (d) - Corporate President  Angry Dragon   Nov-22-11 05:45 PM   #28 
  - words mean nothing unless they are backed up by action nt  msongs   Nov-22-11 04:58 PM   # 
  - See, now I don't get this at all.  Rex   Nov-22-11 04:58 PM   #9 
  - Certainly they can.  TheWraith   Nov-22-11 05:10 PM   #16 
  - Ah I C  Rex   Nov-22-11 07:23 PM   #45 
  - I think that is among OFA democrats. No one I know who actually  sabrina 1   Nov-22-11 05:13 PM   #18 
     - Your personal anecdotes are not more valid than scientific data.  TheWraith   Nov-22-11 08:01 PM   #53 
  - Agreed. Did you know he's now pepper spraying innocent protesters too?  Tarheel_Dem   Nov-22-11 04:59 PM   #10 
  - My disappointment with Obama is that while he is a great campaigner ...  spin   Nov-22-11 05:01 PM   #11 
  - And as the article points out, they said the same thing about every Democrat.  TheWraith   Nov-22-11 05:09 PM   #14 
     - When you promise "Change We Can Believe In" ...  spin   Nov-22-11 05:38 PM   #27 
     - Yes, EXACTLY on point. nt  Raine   Nov-22-11 06:22 PM   #35 
     - That is where Chiat simply lies  dameocrat67   Nov-22-11 06:37 PM   #40 
  - Lol!  sabrina 1   Nov-22-11 05:10 PM   #15 
  - A wonderfully inarticulate response to a thoughtful and compelling article. nt  TheWraith   Nov-22-11 05:11 PM   #17 
  - Hmmm no, this has a lot more to do with it  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-22-11 05:18 PM   #20 
  - We love being told what's wrong with us as politicians screw up things.  mmonk   Nov-22-11 05:21 PM   #21 
  - Yes, I must learn to tailor my ideals to this year's fashion  gratuitous   Nov-22-11 05:21 PM   #22 
  - An excellent reply!  FiveGoodMen   Nov-22-11 05:34 PM   #25 
  - Shhh, you're supposed to forget all that and just admit,  sabrina 1   Nov-22-11 06:33 PM   #37 
  - How dare the people hold the guy accountabe and have expectations that he do his job For shame!  Tierra_y_Libertad   Nov-22-11 05:23 PM   #23 
  - Some Liberals Have A Profound Misunderstanding of American Politics in General  Yavin4   Nov-22-11 05:28 PM   #24 
  - No, given the context, they look as meager as they are.  EFerrari   Nov-22-11 05:53 PM   #30 
     - Until We Get A Real Democracy  Yavin4   Nov-22-11 06:02 PM   #31 
        - Good point. Republicans are pure evil, Dems only mildly evil.  dimbear   Nov-22-11 06:40 PM   #42 
  - some liberals think they are voting out the rich and powerful and voting in "the little guy"  Douglas Carpenter   Nov-22-11 05:34 PM   #26 
  - maybe there is something wrong with the whole stinking system  Raine   Nov-22-11 06:13 PM   #32 
  - If every Democratic president disappoints, maybe theres something wrong with their performance" nt  LaydeeBug   Nov-22-11 06:20 PM   #34 
  - Excellent, excellent point  Number23   Nov-22-11 06:31 PM   #36 
  - Tweety and Joan Walsh are discussing this right now on MSNBC  deucemagnet   Nov-22-11 06:39 PM   #41 
  - Every Dem president has not dissapointed..  sendero   Nov-22-11 06:42 PM   #43 
  - Word  XemaSab   Nov-22-11 08:11 PM   #54 
  - These same people can find no one to represent them.  gulliver   Nov-22-11 07:13 PM   #44 
  - I look at the poverty, wealth accumulation, corruption, and corporate capture  TheKentuckian   Nov-22-11 07:40 PM   #46 
  - Or maybe there's something wrong with our party.  Crunchy Frog   Nov-22-11 07:46 PM   #47 
  - Obama eats kittens. n/t  Lil Missy   Nov-22-11 07:53 PM   #48 
  - I think you meant he may be ON something...not ON TO something...  joeybee12   Nov-22-11 07:54 PM   #49 
  - Third Way conservative self-delusions brought on by excessive circle jerking  Zorra   Nov-22-11 08:15 PM   #55 
  - I don't know if you've noticed, but there are people protesting in the streets. It isn't going away.  Edweird   Nov-22-11 08:33 PM   #57 
  - Wilson "caved" to Republicans when he signed the 19th Amendment  loyalsister   Nov-22-11 09:52 PM   #58 

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